Are you a hard gainer, please read!
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Unstoppable_She_Is wrote: »This should be added to the Most Helpful Posts section
I am working that angle .6 -
Unstoppable_She_Is wrote: »This should be added to the Most Helpful Posts section
I am working that angle .
Maybe the mods should be notified.4 -
can you add that hard gainers are a myth too please?
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can you add that hard gainers are a myth too please?
I believe that people who poop regularly have good gut bacteria and their colon responds to the stomach filling up by relieving the pressure.
Not all kids or people are as active as others. Hard gainers tend to be people who are not only active through sports, but are the kind of people that rarely sit still for long periods of time. You might also eat more at each meal, but less snacking through the day. I have friends who were hard gainers until they started desk jobs.4 -
Unstoppable_She_Is wrote: »This should be added to the Most Helpful Posts section
You can nominate a post here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10260479/nominate-posts-for-announcement-status-stickies#latest (this one has already been added) but they only adjust the stickies every 6 months or so. May have to wait a while.0 -
can you add that hard gainers are a myth too please?
I believe that people who poop regularly have good gut bacteria and their colon responds to the stomach filling up by relieving the pressure.
Not all kids or people are as active as others. Hard gainers tend to be people who are not only active through sports, but are the kind of people that rarely sit still for long periods of time. You might also eat more at each meal, but less snacking through the day. I have friends who were hard gainers until they started desk jobs.
This makes sense to me. I am always bouncing my legg up and down or shaking my feet when I lay down. But can this activity be so active that it's like cardio to me and others that have as much energy as I do? I understand that this movement will burn more calories but does it truly make that much of a difference? I don't really pay attention to my movement, my wife will have me realise that I'm shaking my leggs because it bothers her. It just happens because I have a lot of energy and don't know what to do with myself2 -
can you add that hard gainers are a myth too please?
Have you actually had your metabolism measured? I'll bet you are very surprised. There are some that are naturally higher than others and you might be one, but odds are you aren't outside 3 standard deviations like the rest of us. And metabolism has nothing to do with how fast you have bowel movements.5 -
can you add that hard gainers are a myth too please?
As a child, who is growing, you will have a more active metabolism than a grown adult who is not longer growing. As a teenager i was regularly drinkiing 72 oz sodas, quarts of ice team (yes from the container), huge bowls of ice cream every night and could eat a large pizza or 3 big macs at one sitting. I have multilple bowels daily as well. None of that i contribute to a metabolism but rather a high thermal effect from activity. I play soccer and ice hockey. I never deviated from my 175 lb mark. A few years in college i had to quit ice hockey due to an illness and that is when i gained. My dad was 115 lbs until he got out of the air force. So for most, its activity level, not metabolism.5 -
can you add that hard gainers are a myth too please?
As a child, who is growing, you will have a mlre active metabolism than a grown adult who is not longer growing. As a teenager i was regularly drinkiing 72 oz sodas, quarts of ice team (yes from the container), huge bowls of ice cream every night and could eat a large pizza or 3 big macs at one sitting. I have multilple bowels daily as well. None of that i contribute to a metabolism but rather a high thermal effect from activity. I play soccer and ice hockey. I never deviated from my 175 lb mark. A few years in college i had to quit ice hockey due to an illness and that is when i gained. My dad was 115 lbs until he got out of the air force. So for most, its activity level, not metabolism.
Exactly. I was skinny as a teenager and couldn't gain weight to save my life (I desperately wanted to gain weight for football). I ate staggering amounts of food, it was almost like a sideshow to amuse people with how much I ate. But I was also highly active - played sports year round (football, basketball, track and field, raced bicycles, rode dirt bikes, etc.) and was constantly on the move. After I graduated high school and got into college, where I was eating the same but not anywhere near as active, it became obvious that it had nothing to do with my metabolism and everything to do with my activity levels, as the pounds started piling on. All of a sudden I wasn't a "hard gainer" anymore.6 -
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I would definitely say I am a "hard gainer". My body type is ectomorph. I am 20 years old, and I lead an active lifestyle. I play football ⚽️ at rep level; we train 2 times a week for about 1.5-2 hours and play weekends. I also play indoor once a week. I believe that I struggle to eat enough food to be able to properly gain weight. As a result of my 5 years playing football, I have developed a decent amount of lean muscle mass in my legs, and I have a decent core, but I wouldn't say I am ripped. I've never really built my upper body however, and I have started going to the gym. I started at the beginning of this week. I'm 6'3 and weigh 70.6 kg at time of writing this comment.4
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People can have different metabolisms due to thyroid being low, normal, high. I was always very active, as others described. But, I was recently over prescribed antibiotics. And was under extreme stress, sleep deprivation, became sedentary after previously being extremely active, and dealing with a bizarre medical injury. I realized I was eating food that I wasn't digesting. I lost weight, and it's very challenging to gain, but I have a lot of food intolerance right now from my lack of ability to digest, and handle quantities of food, and also because I have histamine reactions to foods. A microbiome imbalance can influence weight gain issues as well. My Rheumatologist said what I am experiencing is what celiac disease is like. So, I am working on healing that. I try to just keep eating all day.2
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vincetorres9 wrote: »I would definitely say I am a "hard gainer". My body type is ectomorph. I am 20 years old, and I lead an active lifestyle. I play football ⚽️ at rep level; we train 2 times a week for about 1.5-2 hours and play weekends. I also play indoor once a week. I believe that I struggle to eat enough food to be able to properly gain weight. As a result of my 5 years playing football, I have developed a decent amount of lean muscle mass in my legs, and I have a decent core, but I wouldn't say I am ripped. I've never really built my upper body however, and I have started going to the gym. I started at the beginning of this week. I'm 6'3 and weigh 70.6 kg at time of writing this comment.
Somatotypes are not a thing and is highly debunk. You were very young and active which makes is very hard to gain weight unless you can down a ton of calories. I was in no different of a position as you as i was a soccer and ice hockey player in high school. And due to that I had a high tdee, not a high metabolism.3 -
BinaryPulsar wrote: »People can have different metabolisms due to thyroid being low, normal, high. I was always very active, as others described. But, I was recently over prescribed antibiotics. And was under extreme stress, sleep deprivation, became sedentary after previously being extremely active, and dealing with a bizarre medical injury. I realized I was eating food that I wasn't digesting. I lost weight, and it's very challenging to gain, but I have a lot of food intolerance right now from my lack of ability to digest, and handle quantities of food, and also because I have histamine reactions to foods. A microbiome imbalance can influence weight gain issues as well. My Rheumatologist said what I am experiencing is what celiac disease is like. So, I am working on healing that. I try to just keep eating all day.
For the majority of people metabolism is not going to vary much. Yes, there are some with hyperthyroidism but its rather rare. Its more common to have hypothyroidism which would make gaining easy.
But the fact is, most people who believe they are a hard gainer just dont eat enough. We see the threads day in and out. Once they start logging their calories, we see they are in the standard deviation. In all my time here, i have seen one exception and he had hyperthyroidism and struggled to gain at 5000 calories.4 -
This post made me laugh at myself. I've always considered myself a "hard-gainer", i'm 5'6 115 lbs. I incorporated weight training into my fitness routine awhile ago with the plan of building some serious muscle... yet I continue to run 12 km of sprint and hill intervals alternated with an hour of HITT cycling and rowing daily. I guess even the weight training I added is more cardio (30-60 minute kettle bell sessions, plyo circuits, etc.) and I eat a macro split of 40/40/20, most days I'm over in protein and under in carbs and fat... oh lord looking at that in type I'm really not trying to gain weight am I. Sheesh. It's amazing how we can delude ourselves.4
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You might (but I would also understand if you didn't) include a point about having testosterone levels checked if all of the above doesn't work. That was the final key for me to drop my hard-gainer status (because T ~150).1
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This post made me laugh at myself. I've always considered myself a "hard-gainer", i'm 5'6 115 lbs. I incorporated weight training into my fitness routine awhile ago with the plan of building some serious muscle... yet I continue to run 12 km of sprint and hill intervals alternated with an hour of HITT cycling and rowing daily. I guess even the weight training I added is more cardio (30-60 minute kettle bell sessions, plyo circuits, etc.) and I eat a macro split of 40/40/20, most days I'm over in protein and under in carbs and fat... oh lord looking at that in type I'm really not trying to gain weight am I. Sheesh. It's amazing how we can delude ourselves.
Its just human nature. We all want to think we are statistically different but we arent.
But yes, you are doing cardio and cardio weights. If you really want to gain and continue a similar workout program, you can, but you gotta eat real big. Some have that struggle. And that is the only reason many will.suggest lowering or stopping cardio during a bulk.2 -
I'm so glad to see this post... it's inspired me to keep trying. I was feeling really discouraged this morning. I'm 115 1lbs... and I'd like to gain 15 more pounds to achieve my ideal weight. No matter what I do, I seem to have always hovered around 115 & 120 lbs. So I've become deliberately focused on gaining weight by increasing my calorie intake to 2100 calories a day (this is what MyFitnessPal came up with when I entered my weight gain goals), but trying to achieve that everyday is hard! I fell 1800 calories short yesterday. I've been doing this a week, most times I met my goal, but this is harder than I thought. And even after a week I don't see not even the slightest improvement.
I eat a lot of foods on this list... I'm thinking maybe I should start drinking ensures with meals and in between meals. I do believe my metabolism is very high. I'm 44 y/o and have weighed the same since high school. Smh.9 -
BinaryPulsar wrote: »People can have different metabolisms due to thyroid being low, normal, high. I was always very active, as others described. But, I was recently over prescribed antibiotics. And was under extreme stress, sleep deprivation, became sedentary after previously being extremely active, and dealing with a bizarre medical injury. I realized I was eating food that I wasn't digesting. I lost weight, and it's very challenging to gain, but I have a lot of food intolerance right now from my lack of ability to digest, and handle quantities of food, and also because I have histamine reactions to foods. A microbiome imbalance can influence weight gain issues as well. My Rheumatologist said what I am experiencing is what celiac disease is like. So, I am working on healing that. I try to just keep eating all day.
For the majority of people metabolism is not going to vary much. Yes, there are some with hyperthyroidism but its rather rare. Its more common to have hypothyroidism which would make gaining easy.
But the fact is, most people who believe they are a hard gainer just dont eat enough. We see the threads day in and out. Once they start logging their calories, we see they are in the standard deviation. In all my time here, i have seen one exception and he had hyperthyroidism and struggled to gain at 5000 calories.
I think my situation should be temporary until I can recover from the medical injury. But, at first I definitely lost weight from not eating enough because of food reactions causing nerve pain in my face and eyes. But, dealing with that caused a change in my gut from eating large quantities of food I wasn't digesting (I was prone to that from being extremely over treated with antibiotics six months before). But, for six months I was eating 2500+ and couldn't gain past 97. But, I was eating food that caused my belly to swell and was passing through me undigested. So, more food was actually making my problem worse. But, it's definitely a challenging situation to deal with this gut problem and eat enough. But, I am working with doctors, keeping food journal, and doing whatever I can to recover. It just takes time.2
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