some interesting realizations

lisa9805
lisa9805 Posts: 303 Member
edited November 30 in Health and Weight Loss
so I have bought products that are low fat or 0% fat and not meeting my fat goals. realized that I will probably have to buy reg fat greek yogurt/cheese etc now. does everyone else eat reg fat products?
I am snowed in my driveway so i shoveled snow for like 1hr and it says over 300cals which seems high lol
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  • JeepHair77
    JeepHair77 Posts: 1,291 Member
    I rarely buy "fat free" items, because usually, the "fat free" version of whatever you're buying isn't significantly lower in calories, and it probably contains some artificial something or other. I take the position that natural fats (not trans fats) are mostly good for you in moderation. So I eat them, but use careful portion control.
  • sallygroundhog
    sallygroundhog Posts: 133 Member
    shoveling snow is a good workout. 300 does not seem too high. :smile:
    If you like avocados they are a good source of fat and fiber.
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,336 Member
    I don't focus on low fat as the whole anti-fat thing was based on incomplete science. Fat, within reason, it fine, and will not in and of itself make you fat as long as you are in a calorie deficit. You might want to mix up your fats a bit so they are not all from animal sources (eg. Incorporate something like avocado into your diet).

    Shoveling snow is very energy demanding assuming you had a reasonable amount of snow, 1 hour of shoveling will burn a lot of calories. Depending on you age, height, and weight 300 in an hour doesn't sound unreasonable.
  • Lydilod
    Lydilod Posts: 135 Member
    I find that when they take out the fat its replaced by sugar, or artificial 'chemicals'.
  • tkphotogirl
    tkphotogirl Posts: 245 Member
    I always buy regular/full fat versions when available.
  • Lounmoun
    Lounmoun Posts: 8,423 Member
    I don't buy fat free versions of products. I usually get full fat dairy products.
  • AmazonMayan
    AmazonMayan Posts: 1,168 Member
    I buy fat free plain greek yogurt because the protein content is a lot higher. I use it as topping on savory items or make sauces with it. Milk either 1 or 2% because I just do not like full fat milk. I mostly* avoid low fat or fat free everything else. I love full fat flavored yogurt with actual sugars like noosa. The difference in taste and satiety is big.

    *Mostly avoid is because occasionally I am away from the house and couldn't bring food and almost all the grab and go yogurts are fat free/low fat as well as other lower calorie items.
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    I get full fat or reduced fat and avoid fat free whenever possible. Fat tastes good and is good for you.

    It is kind of annoying how hard it can be to find non 0% fat greek yogurt at times. My local grocery store doesn't carry it at all. I have to go to the next town over for it.
  • lisa9805
    lisa9805 Posts: 303 Member
    shoveling snow is a good workout. 300 does not seem too high. :smile:
    If you like avocados they are a good source of fat and fiber.

    i have never had an avocado lol i know u can make guacamole with them though. what else can u do with them or add them too?
  • lisa9805
    lisa9805 Posts: 303 Member
    jemhh wrote: »
    I get full fat or reduced fat and avoid fat free whenever possible. Fat tastes good and is good for you.

    It is kind of annoying how hard it can be to find non 0% fat greek yogurt at times. My local grocery store doesn't carry it at all. I have to go to the next town over for it.

    i just recently found 0% plain greek yogurt and 2 flavours but its limited.
  • ShrinkingScientist
    ShrinkingScientist Posts: 68 Member
    lisa9805 wrote: »
    shoveling snow is a good workout. 300 does not seem too high. :smile:
    If you like avocados they are a good source of fat and fiber.

    i have never had an avocado lol i know u can make guacamole with them though. what else can u do with them or add them too?

    You can cut them up in salads, put them on sandwiches, my co-worker just eats them straight as part of his lunch.
  • lisa9805
    lisa9805 Posts: 303 Member
    I do get fats from nuts and oil and meat too not just dairy. I just have bought alot of low fat or ff dairy products because i thought i should be eating less fat. i see now that good fats in moderation are helpful
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    I prefer low fat greek yogurt and cottage cheese, but get plenty of fat from other foods, like olive oil, olives, avocado, nuts, meat (including fatty fish), cheese, eggs. Being low on fat has never been an issue for me, although I am not overly worried about hitting any particular percentage (usually around 30%, though).
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    I eat lowfat or nonfat dairy and go for lean meats. Partly because I prefer the taste, but mostly because I have a real problem not overeating fat.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited March 2016
    Lydilod wrote: »
    I find that when they take out the fat its replaced by sugar, or artificial 'chemicals'.

    This is not true in dairy. All they do is remove the fat (or decrease it). Also not true for egg whites, for that matter, or skinless, boneless chicken breast -- all probably common dieting foods. Other foods are of course naturally low or no fat, like dried pasta, but should have no sugar added. I mention this just because many of these are common foods for dieters and the sugar is added thing is claimed far too broadly. I don't really eat egg whites (except with the yolks) and prefer whole chickens or chicken breasts, but sugar isn't added to the lower fat versions (my issue is that I think the others are more satisfying and taste better, which is what everyone should probably decide for themselves, as people vary).

    Sugar is added to flavored yogurts commonly, but that's true regardless of the fat percentage.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    lisa9805 wrote: »
    shoveling snow is a good workout. 300 does not seem too high. :smile:
    If you like avocados they are a good source of fat and fiber.

    i have never had an avocado lol i know u can make guacamole with them though. what else can u do with them or add them too?

    I usually eat half of one plain with breakfast, with just a bit of salt. They are good in a wrap or on a sandwich, too.
  • JeepHair77
    JeepHair77 Posts: 1,291 Member
    lisa9805 wrote: »
    shoveling snow is a good workout. 300 does not seem too high. :smile:
    If you like avocados they are a good source of fat and fiber.

    i have never had an avocado lol i know u can make guacamole with them though. what else can u do with them or add them too?

    I looooooove avacados - plain. Once in a while, I'll eat half an avocado with a meal - just slice it up and eat it. A perfectly ripe avocado is so creamy and delicious....
  • scolaris
    scolaris Posts: 2,145 Member
    I'm all about the full fat. Try wallaby organic whole milk Greek yogurt. It is amazing! And clover organic whole milk cottage cheese.
  • mommazach
    mommazach Posts: 384 Member
    Lower fat increases calories. Go check out the salad dressings aisle. Avacados are wonderful sources, but not everyone likes the taste of them. I like them on salads etc.
    •Avocados
    •Olives
    •Nuts (almonds, peanuts, macadamia nuts, hazelnuts, pecans, cashews)
    •Natural peanut butter (containing just peanuts and salt)
    •Walnuts
    •Sunflower, sesame, and pumpkin seeds
    •Flaxseed
    •Fatty fish (salmon, tuna, mackerel, herring, trout, sardines)
    •Non-GMO sources of soymilk and tofu

  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    It depends on the food item. I buy 1% milk for example and non-fat Greek yogurt...I'd rather spend my calories elsewhere...and for these particular products, they're not replacing the fat with some other artificial ingredient or sugar or whatever. I also prefer lower fat salad dressings...again, I'd rather spend my calories elsewhere.

    I get plenty of fat though...most of my fats from things like avocados, nuts, nut butters, olive oil, coconut oil, avocado oil, etc which I use extensively in my day to day cooking and eating.
    Lydilod wrote: »
    I find that when they take out the fat its replaced by sugar, or artificial 'chemicals'.

    This is typically true for foods that are highly processed in general and are going to contain a significant number of artificial chemicals to begin with. These tend to be marketed "diet" foods. This is not true for dairy and many other reduced fat products for which fat is merely skimmed off. This also doesn't apply to other measures of lower calories like leaner cuts of meat and poultry or using egg whites instead of a whole egg, etc.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    mommazach wrote: »
    Lower fat increases calories.

    As a general statement this makes no sense. If you mean specifically salad dressing, then it would still not always be true.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited March 2016
    mommazach wrote: »
    Lower fat increases calories.

    As a general statement this makes no sense. If you mean specifically salad dressing, then it would still not always be true.

    Agreed. For example, I often do an olive oil and balsamic mix. Sometimes I want to reduce calories (and pretty much always have some other source of fat in my salads, like olives), so I make a mustard and red wine vinegar dressing. No fat in the latter and also a lot fewer calories.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,600 Member
    I did a quick skim here, and didn't see this (apologies if I missed it): Yes, do get some fat! Some micronutrients (vitamins, etc.) are better utilized by your body if you consume fat with them. Several folks have listed good sources of healthy fats. I like to try to get some healthy fat with every meal.

    Snow shoveling: Actually, 300 for an hour doesn't seem at all high. I think one of the best single-session "workouts" I ever had was when I shoveled heavy snow steadily/energetically for around 4 hours, and my heart rate monitor said I burned around 1800 calories! (Yes, it was seriously aerobic throughout, and yes, for the skeptics, despite being quite overweight, I was fit enough at the time to shovel snow for 4 hours continuously without it being even remotely risky. :wink: Hit 1100-ish per HRM in a couple of hours once, too, the same way.)
  • CollieFit
    CollieFit Posts: 1,683 Member
    I never ever buy anything that says "fat free" or thereabouts. Why would I? Fat is great. It means I stay full for a lot longer.
  • Quarkles
    Quarkles Posts: 69 Member
    lisa9805 wrote: »
    shoveling snow is a good workout. 300 does not seem too high. :smile:
    If you like avocados they are a good source of fat and fiber.

    i have never had an avocado lol i know u can make guacamole with them though. what else can u do with them or add them too?

    Sprinkle some salt and pepper on the avocado, and grab a spoon. Or smear it on some toast. It's also really good in sushi or on tacos or nachos. Ooh, or on a BLT. ...I want avocado.
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,336 Member
    Heart rate monitors are likely not too accurate in measuring calories from snow shoveling. This sites calculation fit well with the one here http://www.acaloriecalculator.com/calories-burned-calculator/
  • lisa9805
    lisa9805 Posts: 303 Member
    do u cook it or eat it raw?
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    For the shoveling, it depends on how dense the snow is. If it's dense, 300 seems actually low, lol! Last time we had 14 inches and it was so compact that I was sore for two days from the shoveling.

    For the fat in dairy, well, it depends. For cheese, I typically go full fat (except those processed cheese slices that I like on burgers or in breakfast burritos, I get 2%). For yogurt, I can't really tell the difference between 0%, 2%, and full fat, for a lot of brands... so I just buy 0% typically... unless it's Siggi's or Oh My Yog! then I really like the full fat ones (and some Fage with lime and blueberries that I have sadly not seen in months).
    Lydilod wrote: »
    I find that when they take out the fat its replaced by sugar, or artificial 'chemicals'.

    That's only true in *some* flavored yogurts.
  • AmazonMayan
    AmazonMayan Posts: 1,168 Member
    Quarkles wrote: »
    lisa9805 wrote: »
    shoveling snow is a good workout. 300 does not seem too high. :smile:
    If you like avocados they are a good source of fat and fiber.

    i have never had an avocado lol i know u can make guacamole with them though. what else can u do with them or add them too?

    Sprinkle some salt and pepper on the avocado, and grab a spoon. Or smear it on some toast. It's also really good in sushi or on tacos or nachos. Ooh, or on a BLT. ...I want avocado.

    My favorite way to have it is sliced on a cheese pizza. Lots of calories and a fat wallop but man when I can make it fit my day it's so delicious.
  • sallygroundhog
    sallygroundhog Posts: 133 Member
    lisa9805 wrote: »
    shoveling snow is a good workout. 300 does not seem too high. :smile:
    If you like avocados they are a good source of fat and fiber.

    i have never had an avocado lol i know u can make guacamole with them though. what else can u do with them or add them too?

    What can't you add them to? :smiley:
    You can add slices or chunks to any plate of mexican food. You can mush it up and put it on toast. I sometimes eat them out of the peel with a spoon. Put in a breakfast burrito. Add to any sandwich to replace mayonnaise or keep the mayonnaise too.
    You eat them raw.
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