Damn sodium and sugar

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  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
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    r9o1n6 wrote: »
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    r9o1n6 wrote: »
    TeaBea wrote: »
    r9o1n6 wrote: »
    Is anybody else have the same issue with sodium and sugar you cut everything and you still are over your limit. No more sodas no more juice Limited fruit water exercise eating healthy no red meat. Errrrrr

    I don't need to be perfect to lose weight, I just need to improve. I have no medical issues with sodium, sugar, or red meat, so I don't worry a whole lot about those.

    What I try to do instead is meet protein, fat and fiber goals. I changed my tracker to track fiber instead of sugar.

    Whole fruit has fiber that juice does not, so it's more filling. I drink diet soda, but in moderation. Only lifestyle changes for me. Permanent changes that will help me keep the weight off.

    I'm pretty good at keeping my fat intake really low and my carbohydrates very low fiber is always good cholesterol very low

    If you are keeping carbs low and fat low, are you on high protein only? There's no need to have so many restrictions in your diet. Fats are healthy and necessary for nutrient absorption and many body functions. Carbs can be a great source of energy. I haven't been tracking my sodium or sugar, down 47lbs so far. 31 of those since October. Much of my food is home cooked, but I don't worry about limiting everything.

    You need to do what's right for you, it just seems overly restrictive. All the best to you.

    Im not over wait by no means but working on building muscle again and getting refit this is why very difficult to cut the sugar in the sodium the two main things you must cut when you are trying to cut

    So are you building muscle or cutting?
  • JeromeBarry1
    JeromeBarry1 Posts: 10,182 Member
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    r9o1n6 wrote: »
    TeaBea wrote: »
    r9o1n6 wrote: »
    Is anybody else have the same issue with sodium and sugar you cut everything and you still are over your limit. No more sodas no more juice Limited fruit water exercise eating healthy no red meat. Errrrrr

    Every day. If I am within my target for carbs/sugar, my sodium is out of control. If I concentrate on low sodium foods, my carbs/sugar goes through the roof. I'm diabetic, so I'm having more problems with carbs than sodium (I have hypertension too, but it's under control) so I watch my carbs and shrug when my sodium goes over the limit.

    I invite you, too, to look at my food diary. I've been over the 289 number for carbs twice, on January 31 and February 6. All the other days have been under the 289 goal, usually very substantially. My daily goal presently is to have 1200 calories, less than 1500 sodium, and at least 80 protein.

    1200 calories for a MAN - MFP's lowest default minimum is 1500. Fast weight loss makes it harder for your body to support existing lean muscle mass. Moderate weight loss will do more to lower your body fat %.

    Ya 1200 calories is wayyyyyyy to low. Do not want to lose muscle mass . At 1200 calories I would pull my hair out because I was starving unless you're packing up on fiber like insanely. But still 1200 is lowwww

    I appreciate your concern, but I'm not pulling my hair out or starving. I jog a mile on my treadmill 5 days a week. I work my job, snack on junk food, then come home and fix my dinner. A reasonably sized dinner for me has about 400 calories and includes fish, beans, and vegetables. I follow my jog each M-F with simple calisthenics. For many years, I neither dieted, exercise, or cared how fat I got. I started the calisthenics this week and it's a trivial thing to do 3 sets of 10 squats. I'm very weak in the chest and push-ups are much harder for me. I'm in the mid-250's at this time, with about 70-80 pounds left to lose.
  • r9o1n6
    r9o1n6 Posts: 37 Member
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    r9o1n6 wrote: »
    TeaBea wrote: »
    r9o1n6 wrote: »
    Is anybody else have the same issue with sodium and sugar you cut everything and you still are over your limit. No more sodas no more juice Limited fruit water exercise eating healthy no red meat. Errrrrr

    Every day. If I am within my target for carbs/sugar, my sodium is out of control. If I concentrate on low sodium foods, my carbs/sugar goes through the roof. I'm diabetic, so I'm having more problems with carbs than sodium (I have hypertension too, but it's under control) so I watch my carbs and shrug when my sodium goes over the limit.

    I invite you, too, to look at my food diary. I've been over the 289 number for carbs twice, on January 31 and February 6. All the other days have been under the 289 goal, usually very substantially. My daily goal presently is to have 1200 calories, less than 1500 sodium, and at least 80 protein.

    1200 calories for a MAN - MFP's lowest default minimum is 1500. Fast weight loss makes it harder for your body to support existing lean muscle mass. Moderate weight loss will do more to lower your body fat %.

    Ya 1200 calories is wayyyyyyy to low. Do not want to lose muscle mass . At 1200 calories I would pull my hair out because I was starving unless you're packing up on fiber like insanely. But still 1200 is lowwww

    I appreciate your concern, but I'm not pulling my hair out or starving. I jog a mile on my treadmill 5 days a week. I work my job, snack on junk food, then come home and fix my dinner. A reasonably sized dinner for me has about 400 calories and includes fish, beans, and vegetables. I follow my jog each M-F with simple calisthenics. For many years, I neither dieted, exercise, or cared how fat I got. I started the calisthenics this week and it's a trivial thing to do 3 sets of 10 squats. I'm very weak in the chest and push-ups are much harder for me. I'm in the mid-250's at this time, with about 70-80 pounds left to lose.

    Well in that case i can see why u are on a low cal dite i was 208, 6 days ago when i jumped back on here but now 197 so i cant have a 1200 cal would be super unhealthy for me. I have to be 175-185 to get my abs and everything back. I used to be a health nut tell i started a company and that got in the way of sticking to it so now that it has grown to a point i can set back and relax. Now time for back to health
  • Kamikazeflutterby
    Kamikazeflutterby Posts: 775 Member
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    r9o1n6 wrote: »
    Every day. I still lost over 80 lbs this year though so I'm thinking it doesn't matter. :)

    But dam 80lb damn you go . 6 days ago I decided to get back on this app from 3 years ago and get back to the healthy life doing the shock diet which is going straight from bad food to good food cut out soda cut it all but I still love my cereal but I've switched to Special K the healthy brands that's my snack now used to be a box of donuts

    Please, please, please beware any diet that says it will "shock" your metabolism. If something's wrong with your metabolism it is because you have a metabolic disorder and need a real doctor. Fruit, salad, and an omelet are not going to fix this in any way, shape, or form. Any weight loss will be from going to lower calorie food as part of the "shock," not from switching from "bad" to "good" foods.

    When these types of diets cause dramatic weight loss it is usually because you have a beginning of diet loss from water weight. Some "jump starts" make you poop, or include a diuretic as a primary part of the diet as well. The most innocent of them merely teach you to demonize a new food and avoid learning about nutrition.

    Take a look at the thread you started: when trans fats were the villain, many foods added more salt or sugars to improve their taste. Now the bad guy's sugar, so I wonder what test kitchens will pump out next and advertise as "healthy."
  • r9o1n6
    r9o1n6 Posts: 37 Member
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    r9o1n6 wrote: »
    Every day. I still lost over 80 lbs this year though so I'm thinking it doesn't matter. :)

    But dam 80lb damn you go . 6 days ago I decided to get back on this app from 3 years ago and get back to the healthy life doing the shock diet which is going straight from bad food to good food cut out soda cut it all but I still love my cereal but I've switched to Special K the healthy brands that's my snack now used to be a box of donuts

    Please, please, please beware any diet that says it will "shock" your metabolism. If something's wrong with your metabolism it is because you have a metabolic disorder and need a real doctor. Fruit, salad, and an omelet are not going to fix this in any way, shape, or form. Any weight loss will be from going to lower calorie food as part of the "shock," not from switching from "bad" to "good" foods.

    When these types of diets cause dramatic weight loss it is usually because you have a beginning of diet loss from water weight. Some "jump starts" make you poop, or include a diuretic as a primary part of the diet as well. The most innocent of them merely teach you to demonize a new food and avoid learning about nutrition.

    Take a look at the thread you started: when trans fats were the villain, many foods added more salt or sugars to improve their taste. Now the bad guy's sugar, so I wonder what test kitchens will pump out next and advertise as "healthy."

    When you go from eating a box of donuts to eating a kal and banana juice its a big switch. I used to be a big helth nut . its not all water weight trust me my job/my company is very physical job so I'm very active which helps with my weight loss si eat health and work out you loss weight fast . The whole form in /thread of this is saying it's very hard to get under your goal for the day on this app
  • r9o1n6
    r9o1n6 Posts: 37 Member
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    r9o1n6 wrote: »
    r9o1n6 wrote: »
    Every day. I still lost over 80 lbs this year though so I'm thinking it doesn't matter. :)

    But dam 80lb damn you go . 6 days ago I decided to get back on this app from 3 years ago and get back to the healthy life doing the shock diet which is going straight from bad food to good food cut out soda cut it all but I still love my cereal but I've switched to Special K the healthy brands that's my snack now used to be a box of donuts

    Please, please, please beware any diet that says it will "shock" your metabolism. If something's wrong with your metabolism it is because you have a metabolic disorder and need a real doctor. Fruit, salad, and an omelet are not going to fix this in any way, shape, or form. Any weight loss will be from going to lower calorie food as part of the "shock," not from switching from "bad" to "good" foods.

    When these types of diets cause dramatic weight loss it is usually because you have a beginning of diet loss from water weight. Some "jump starts" make you poop, or include a diuretic as a primary part of the diet as well. The most innocent of them merely teach you to demonize a new food and avoid learning about nutrition.

    Take a look at the thread you started: when trans fats were the villain, many foods added more salt or sugars to improve their taste. Now the bad guy's sugar, so I wonder what test kitchens will pump out next and advertise as "healthy."

    When you go from eating a box of donuts to eating a kal and banana juice its a big switch. I used to be a big helth nut . its not all water weight trust me my job/my company is very physical job so I'm very active which helps with my weight loss si eat health and work out you loss weight fast . The whole form in /thread of this is saying it's very hard to get under your goal for the day on this app

    And there is no such thing as a shock diet that's what I call it
  • Kamikazeflutterby
    Kamikazeflutterby Posts: 775 Member
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    r9o1n6 wrote: »
    r9o1n6 wrote: »
    r9o1n6 wrote: »
    Every day. I still lost over 80 lbs this year though so I'm thinking it doesn't matter. :)

    But dam 80lb damn you go . 6 days ago I decided to get back on this app from 3 years ago and get back to the healthy life doing the shock diet which is going straight from bad food to good food cut out soda cut it all but I still love my cereal but I've switched to Special K the healthy brands that's my snack now used to be a box of donuts

    Please, please, please beware any diet that says it will "shock" your metabolism. If something's wrong with your metabolism it is because you have a metabolic disorder and need a real doctor. Fruit, salad, and an omelet are not going to fix this in any way, shape, or form. Any weight loss will be from going to lower calorie food as part of the "shock," not from switching from "bad" to "good" foods.

    When these types of diets cause dramatic weight loss it is usually because you have a beginning of diet loss from water weight. Some "jump starts" make you poop, or include a diuretic as a primary part of the diet as well. The most innocent of them merely teach you to demonize a new food and avoid learning about nutrition.

    Take a look at the thread you started: when trans fats were the villain, many foods added more salt or sugars to improve their taste. Now the bad guy's sugar, so I wonder what test kitchens will pump out next and advertise as "healthy."

    When you go from eating a box of donuts to eating a kal and banana juice its a big switch. I used to be a big helth nut . its not all water weight trust me my job/my company is very physical job so I'm very active which helps with my weight loss si eat health and work out you loss weight fast . The whole form in /thread of this is saying it's very hard to get under your goal for the day on this app

    And there is no such thing as a shock diet that's what I call it

    Oh, there is. It is a one week diet that's supposed to "shock your metabolism." Those things really torque me off for all of the reasons I listed. They prey on people's fears and gullibility.

    As far as the sodium/sugar tracking... if you don't have a medical reason to track them, don't worry about going over. Keep the calories in line, figure out what helps you feel full, and get through your day. You'll do fine.

  • r9o1n6
    r9o1n6 Posts: 37 Member
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    r9o1n6 wrote: »
    r9o1n6 wrote: »
    r9o1n6 wrote: »
    Every day. I still lost over 80 lbs this year though so I'm thinking it doesn't matter. :)

    But dam 80lb damn you go . 6 days ago I decided to get back on this app from 3 years ago and get back to the healthy life doing the shock diet which is going straight from bad food to good food cut out soda cut it all but I still love my cereal but I've switched to Special K the healthy brands that's my snack now used to be a box of donuts

    Please, please, please beware any diet that says it will "shock" your metabolism. If something's wrong with your metabolism it is because you have a metabolic disorder and need a real doctor. Fruit, salad, and an omelet are not going to fix this in any way, shape, or form. Any weight loss will be from going to lower calorie food as part of the "shock," not from switching from "bad" to "good" foods.

    When these types of diets cause dramatic weight loss it is usually because you have a beginning of diet loss from water weight. Some "jump starts" make you poop, or include a diuretic as a primary part of the diet as well. The most innocent of them merely teach you to demonize a new food and avoid learning about nutrition.

    Take a look at the thread you started: when trans fats were the villain, many foods added more salt or sugars to improve their taste. Now the bad guy's sugar, so I wonder what test kitchens will pump out next and advertise as "healthy."

    When you go from eating a box of donuts to eating a kal and banana juice its a big switch. I used to be a big helth nut . its not all water weight trust me my job/my company is very physical job so I'm very active which helps with my weight loss si eat health and work out you loss weight fast . The whole form in /thread of this is saying it's very hard to get under your goal for the day on this app

    And there is no such thing as a shock diet that's what I call it

    Oh, there is. It is a one week diet that's supposed to "shock your metabolism." Those things really torque me off for all of the reasons I listed. They prey on people's fears and gullibility.

    As far as the sodium/sugar tracking... if you don't have a medical reason to track them, don't worry about going over. Keep the calories in line, figure out what helps you feel full, and get through your day. You'll do fine.

    :)