No change in scale- Due to no weight loss OR muscle weight gain

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Fiftyls2looz wrote: »

3dogsrunning wrote: »

Fiftyls2looz wrote: »

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SonyaCele wrote: »

you lost 4 pounds in a month and a half? that's pretty good. keep up the good work.

Fiftyls2looz wrote: »

I weighed 196 on the 26th of Jan.
I now weigh 192.

I eat 1800/2300 (I breastfeed which burns around 400-500 call per day)
gym 4x a week. 55 min session of cardiovascular and weight training.

15 mins of weights :
18kg overhead press, chest press, flutes
20m treadmill level 1, 20 min cross trainer level 1, 15 man rowing machine level 7.
back extension 40kg 10 reps, abdominal machine 25 kg 20 reps.

but yet I've only lost 4lbs!!?, I feel so discouraged feel like I'll never lose these 4 stones!! scales arena moving..am I gaining muscle or just not losing weight? ?

tape measurements (not 100% due to not measuring correctly or in the same places possible )

☆3rd FEB starting measurements ☆
TOP OF ARM:39 (3rd) 37 (19th) 36 (25th) 36 (4th march) 3
TOP OF THIGH: 76?? (26th) 72.5 on top of spot mark on left leg (4th march)
HIPS: 116 (3rd) 115 (19th) 114 (25th) 112 (4th march)
WAIST: 108 (26th) 103 (4thmarch)
NECK: 35 (19th) 34 (26th) 34 (4th march)

you lost 4 pounds in the last month and a half? that's how its done, keep up the good work.

thank you. It's just I wanted to lose 2lbs, as I've got a long way to go.

Like in your last thread, you may have to adjust your expectations, at least while you are nursing. Your supply suffers if you cut lower, so you can't cut lower unless you want to stop nursing. You can't lose more weight unless you cut lower.

You are losing, just not fast enough. Keep going. Worry about losing faster when you are done nursing.

I totally get what your saying. I'm actually planning on nursing for 2 years in total.
hey 1 thing I don't understand is you know all the websites say you burn 300-600 call a day BFing, yet my deficiting so much from my maintenance calorie level (2700 due to activity level and BFing factor) yet I lose just 1lb still!!??

how does that work? what about the laws of thermodynamics? ??
that's why I was wondering that perhaps the lesser rate of Weight loss is perhaps due to the MUSCLE building that I'm doing???

is that feasible? ?

Well, you are looking at the calories out part of the equation. The calories in part is the most important.
Your diary isn't open so it's hard to say. How accurate are you being? Do you log everything? Do you weigh your food?
If your maintenance is 2700 and you are eating 2300, that's only a 400 calorie deficit - puts you on target for 1 lbs a week. Actually, just under.
If you eat 1800, that's a 900 calorie deficit, which should be over 1lb, however, if you are underestimating, by even just a bit, you can easily be off a few, keeping you in the 1lb range.

It is possible you gained muscle, however, while eating at a deficit, there is only so much you can gain. You won't be gaining enough to offset weight loss. A woman eating at a surplus, lifting, trying to gain muscle will be doing well to gain 1 lb a month in muscle.

could you provide a link to where it says that about women and muscle gain, it's very interesting. I have now opened my diary for all to read. "》

Fiftyls2looz wrote: »

3dogsrunning wrote: »

Fiftyls2looz wrote: »

3dogsrunning wrote: »

Fiftyls2looz wrote: »

SonyaCele wrote: »

you lost 4 pounds in a month and a half? that's pretty good. keep up the good work.

Fiftyls2looz wrote: »

I weighed 196 on the 26th of Jan.
I now weigh 192.

I eat 1800/2300 (I breastfeed which burns around 400-500 call per day)
gym 4x a week. 55 min session of cardiovascular and weight training.

15 mins of weights :
18kg overhead press, chest press, flutes
20m treadmill level 1, 20 min cross trainer level 1, 15 man rowing machine level 7.
back extension 40kg 10 reps, abdominal machine 25 kg 20 reps.

but yet I've only lost 4lbs!!?, I feel so discouraged feel like I'll never lose these 4 stones!! scales arena moving..am I gaining muscle or just not losing weight? ?

tape measurements (not 100% due to not measuring correctly or in the same places possible )

☆3rd FEB starting measurements ☆
TOP OF ARM:39 (3rd) 37 (19th) 36 (25th) 36 (4th march) 3
TOP OF THIGH: 76?? (26th) 72.5 on top of spot mark on left leg (4th march)
HIPS: 116 (3rd) 115 (19th) 114 (25th) 112 (4th march)
WAIST: 108 (26th) 103 (4thmarch)
NECK: 35 (19th) 34 (26th) 34 (4th march)

you lost 4 pounds in the last month and a half? that's how its done, keep up the good work.

thank you. It's just I wanted to lose 2lbs, as I've got a long way to go.

Like in your last thread, you may have to adjust your expectations, at least while you are nursing. Your supply suffers if you cut lower, so you can't cut lower unless you want to stop nursing. You can't lose more weight unless you cut lower.

You are losing, just not fast enough. Keep going. Worry about losing faster when you are done nursing.

I totally get what your saying. I'm actually planning on nursing for 2 years in total.
hey 1 thing I don't understand is you know all the websites say you burn 300-600 call a day BFing, yet my deficiting so much from my maintenance calorie level (2700 due to activity level and BFing factor) yet I lose just 1lb still!!??

how does that work? what about the laws of thermodynamics? ??
that's why I was wondering that perhaps the lesser rate of Weight loss is perhaps due to the MUSCLE building that I'm doing???

is that feasible? ?

Well, you are looking at the calories out part of the equation. The calories in part is the most important.
Your diary isn't open so it's hard to say. How accurate are you being? Do you log everything? Do you weigh your food?
If your maintenance is 2700 and you are eating 2300, that's only a 400 calorie deficit - puts you on target for 1 lbs a week. Actually, just under.
If you eat 1800, that's a 900 calorie deficit, which should be over 1lb, however, if you are underestimating, by even just a bit, you can easily be off a few, keeping you in the 1lb range.

It is possible you gained muscle, however, while eating at a deficit, there is only so much you can gain. You won't be gaining enough to offset weight loss. A woman eating at a surplus, lifting, trying to gain muscle will be doing well to gain 1 lb a month in muscle.

could you provide a link to where it says that about women and muscle gain, it's very interesting. I have now opened my diary for all to read. "》

I'm on my phone so it's harder to search but here is one

http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/how-much-muscle-can-you-gain/

Worth quoting:

• Average Natural MAN: between 0.25 and 0.5 pounds of muscle per week (or about 1-2 pounds of muscle gained per month).
• Average Natural WOMAN: between 0.12 – 0.25 pounds of muscle per week (or about 0.5-1 pound of muscle gained per month).

Once again, we’re strictly talking MUSCLE, not WEIGHT. Besides actual muscle, weight gained throughout the week could be (and often is) fat, water or glycogen. We’re not talking about any of those here.

And really, this is the rate you can expect under the best possible circumstances. Meaning, an ideal muscle building workout routine and diet, an ideal amount of sleep every night, rest, recovery, consistency, lack of stress, and so on. Basically, when everything is done as perfectly as it could be, this is how fast you can expect to build muscle.

And once again… these numbers are averages. Some may exceed them (rare) and some may never reach them (unfortunately true). The exact amount of muscle you can build per week, month or year is based on a handful of individual factors specific to you. Speaking of those factors, let’s find out what they are.

Read more: http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/how-much-muscle-can-you-gain/

Also the quote references diet but doesn't specify. This is referring to a bulk where one would be eating at a surplus.

OP, I just wanted to reiterate what others have said, you need to adjust your expectations.

It is perfectly typical to take @ one year to lose 50 lbs. And it is more important for you to do this in a healthy fashion, so you don't adversely affect your milk supply.

Losing the weight AND keeping it off will be something you will need to do for the rest of your life. If you look at it as - I need to get this weight off quick so I don't have to think about it anymore - you are way more likely to either burn out before you reach your goal, or to gain it back after you're done.

Edited to add: Weight loss isn't linear. Even if you did everything absolutely perfect, some days you will lose a lb, some days you will gain a lb, some days there will be no change. There are all sorts of processes going on in your body that affect scale weight (your milk production, water weight, digestion, etc.)

I checked your diary.

For the past 7 days or so your average calorie intake was about 2050.
You said maintenance is 2700 so that's 650 deficit. It's a bit over 1lb a week but keep in mind all of these numbers are estimates. You are losing 1lb a week so you aren't far off where you should be.

Scales are not accurate they are deceiving. Weight and fat are not the same. A scale weighs fat muscle mass and bones.

Fiftyls2looz wrote: »

tomteboda wrote: »

I have found that workout calories don't mean very much. The deficit is nearly all diet.

is the benefit of exercising just for toning then?

Exercise is mainly for muscle growth/maintenance and physical fitness. You can be skinny and out of shape, or obese and at least moderately fit, depending on how much exercise you do.

Fiftyls2looz wrote: »

rankinsect wrote: »

Fiftyls2looz wrote: »

tomteboda wrote: »

I have found that workout calories don't mean very much. The deficit is nearly all diet.

is the benefit of exercising just for toning then?

Exercise is mainly for muscle growth/maintenance and physical fitness. You can be skinny and out of shape, or obese and at least moderately fit, depending on how much exercise you do.

im trying to figure out why the fitness instructer at the gym said that no matter, women just dont build muscle..and to keep strength training and exercising to burn fat.

Women can build muscle but it is very difficult. The most a woman can build a month is maybe 1 lbs while eating at a surplus and doing a progressive overload program. Recomposition is possible on a slight deficit but it is very slow.

It is worth it. Strength training helps preserve your muscles so you will not lose them as much as you would if you didn't do strength training.

Recomping is more for people who are already at their goal weight and want to lose a little fat and gain a little muscle.

Fiftyls2looz wrote: »

hi all thanks for your replies,
I'm not eating back my breastfeeding OR exercise calories. I've found that eating 1500 call greatly reduces my milk supply. 1800 - and milk is plentiful...maybe I could go 1700/1600......
what do you think??

I'm 14 stones 2lbs...or 87kg. 5ft5 or...165cm

I have been trying to lose weight for 5 years but have never had the time because of my kids and also other stuff going on in my life. I would ideally really like to lose at least 2lbs a week as I've got SO much to lose.

how can I make sure I definitely do this???
also any comments on my exercise or what I should/ shouldn't do? ?

please help "(

I started at 198lbs i am 5ft 5.5 and was bf'ing as well. My weight loss has never been over 1lb per week. I think you are doing just fine, slow and steady is a good way to go, Some weeks i havent lost any weight but the tape tells me i am loosing inches and i can see that around my stomach especially the mummy tummy is definetly firming up as i loose. I have done this before (pre first child) when i lost lots of weight quite quickly and whilst the weight loss was great i didnt see things toning up as they are now. Your baby is still quite young you may find things change with your loss when you are weaning.
As someone else has said i would only budget 300 cals for feeding, and i am sure my starting calories was around 1700.

Good Luck

Edited to add i am now 31lbs down with another 20 to go

You've come so far so well done you!! Question...do you do the same gym routine? If so then you need to change it dramatically!! You need to shock your body every now and again for you to see progress. I've been there and struggled..now I change my routine once every 2-3 weeks. Hope this helps and good luck