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A quick refresher on a calorie is a calorie ....
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ForecasterJason wrote: »While I don't eat almonds, the funny thing is that with my overall goals, 30 calories a day may actually be significant. If I want to try to gain 0.25 lb a month, it would matter in that regard.
No, because the assumption is that you are not an idiot and will therefore behave reasonably.
If your diet is not allowing you to gain, you will eat more.
Whether or not your estimate of the calories you consume is 100% correct or not (and it's not, no one's is, although some do better than others), and whether or not your estimate of the calories you burn is correct or not, you always can adjust based on results.
People seem to think there's some victory in logging more calories than they actually access, so increasing the number of foods that likely have overstated calories is somehow inherently beneficial.
That seems weird to me.0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »While I don't eat almonds, the funny thing is that with my overall goals, 30 calories a day may actually be significant. If I want to try to gain 0.25 lb a month, it would matter in that regard.
why are you trying to gain .25 pounds per month? who does that/???0 -
For medical reasons it would be best that I avoid gaining more than a pound of fat over the next several months, while at the same time I'd like to increase my LBM.
why are you trying to gain .25 pounds per month? who does that/???
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Ah, no it does not...
There are two types of fiber one slows down and one speeds up.0 -
I think you mean slow down or speed up digestion, not metabolism. Interesting if you think calories aren't calories, but digestion is metabolism.0 -
Almonds aren't about the fiber, but thanks for assuming the science matches your view instead of bothering to inform your view based on the science.
Who stated almonds were about the fiber? I was just sharing how you won't get those 160 calories promised because of the fiber in the almonds. And if almonds are a problem, then you won't get those 300 calories in red beans. Instead 100 is lost.0 -
Neither type of fiber slows, or speeds up the metabolic rate. I'll wait till the lightbulb goes off in your head...0 -
Who stated almonds were about the fiber. I was just sharing how you won't get those 160 calories promised because of the fiber in the almond.
You did. You used it as evidence that fiber matters. That or you're just making disjoint statements - "fiber is important because it lowers calories", "almonds have fiber", "almonds have fewer digested calories", "STRAWMAN, I NEVER CLAIMED FIBER IN ALMONDS LOWERS CALORIES".
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Considering that digestion is part of metabolism, I would think his statement has some truth to it.
I think you mean slow down or speed up digestion, not metabolism. Interesting if you think calories aren't calories, but digestion is metabolism.
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ForecasterJason wrote: »While I don't eat almonds, the funny thing is that with my overall goals, 30 calories a day may actually be significant. If I want to try to gain 0.25 lb a month, it would matter in that regard.
I think @EvgeniZyntx once showed that such a small surplus is unlikely to be realizable as the body would counteract it to become maintenance.0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »For medical reasons it would be best that I avoid gaining more than a pound of fat over the next several months, while at the same time I'd like to increase my LBM.
you are not going to get much LBM increase from a .25 per month gain ....0 -
Proof me wrong. If I am wrong. then fine but proof would be great.Neither type of fiber slows, or speeds up the metabolic rate. I'll wait till the lightbulb goes off in your head...
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Do you really honestly try to help people? If so you might want to edit your post.
oh the irony0 -
No, it would not...ForecasterJason wrote: »While I don't eat almonds, the funny thing is that with my overall goals, 30 calories a day may actually be significant. If I want to try to gain 0.25 lb a month, it would matter in that regard.
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Yet, if you have a high fiber diet it would matter. So, does it or not?
How much fiber would you have to ingest to become a problem for your calorie goals? And would you get other unrelated problems first from the sheer amount?0 -
OMG no...ForecasterJason wrote: »Considering that digestion is part of metabolism, I would think his statement has some truth to it.
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Proof me wrong. If I am wrong. then fine but proof would be great.
he does not have to prove a negative, that is ridiculous.
you make the claims, you can back them up with peer reviewed sources...or can you?0 -
You did. You used it as evidence that fiber matters. That or you're just making disjoint statements - "fiber is important because it lowers calories", "almonds have fiber", "almonds have fewer digested calories", "STRAWMAN, I NEVER CLAIMED FIBER IN ALMONDS LOWERS CALORIES".
I used evidence that a calorie is not a calorie because of different variables, one being fiber. Is it true? if so then it contradicts this whole thread.0 -
I know, but every little bit helps.
you are not going to get much LBM increase from a .25 per month gain ....
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Insoluble fiber slows down the DIGESTION, not the metabolic rate. If you can't even get that right how can any of us trust any of your insights or opinions...Proof me wrong. If I am wrong. then fine but proof would be great.0 -
"The fiber content of the food ingested. Due to its chemical makeup, fiber is classified as a carbohydrate; however, it is unlike other carbohydrates in that it is a mostly indigestible nutrient. Even though each gram of fiber contains four calories, these calories will remain undigested and will not be absorbed. Therefore, if one were to consume 300 calories of red beans (a food in which nearly 1/3 of the caloric content is from fiber), approximately 100 of these calories would pass through the intestinal tract undigested."
That's why fiber calories are excluded in calorie counts.0 -
I ate both types of fiber and my metabolism imploded and exploded. My metabolism now permeates the entire earth.
True story.0 -
I don't see why it would not. To gain .25 lb a month, I thought in theory that would translate to about a 25 calorie surplus a day.No, it would not...
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Right, so for a quarter of a pound that's in the range of 25-30 calories a day.A pound is roughly 3500 calories, so for a 30 day month, you're looking at about 110-120 calories a day.
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Metabolic: Relating to metabolism, the whole range of biochemical processes that occur within us (or any living organism). Metabolism consists of anabolism (the buildup of substances) and catabolism (the breakdown of substances).Insoluble fiber slows down the DIGESTION, not the metabolic rate. If you can't even get that right how can any of us trust any of your insights or opinions...
The term "metabolic" is often used to refer specifically to the breakdown of food and its transformation into energy.
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=18074
I stated metabolic rate. Pretty sure I used it right. If wrong. it still does what it does, the fiber.
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ForecasterJason wrote: »Right, so for a quarter of a pound that's in the range of 25-30 calories a day.
I was thinking of a pound a month. Sorry.
I have a hard time imagining anyone controlling TDEE enough to account for .25 lbs a month of consistent increase.0 -
I was thinking of a pound a month. Sorry.
I have a hard time imagining anyone controlling TDEE enough to account for .25 lbs a month of consistent increase.
From what I remember you really can't. It would go under in the sea of ups and downs in expenditure, and the thing I said above.0 -
I was thinking of a pound a month. Sorry.
I have a hard time imagining anyone controlling TDEE enough to account for .25 lbs a month of consistent increase.
that is why it the minimum recommendation for bulking is .5 pound per week ....0 -
Metabolic: Relating to metabolism, the whole range of biochemical processes that occur within us (or any living organism). Metabolism consists of anabolism (the buildup of substances) and catabolism (the breakdown of substances).
The term "metabolic" is often used to refer specifically to the breakdown of food and its transformation into energy.
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=18074
I stated metabolic rate. Pretty sure I used it right. If wrong. it still does what it does, the fiber.
And metabolic rate is its own term with a meaning, which is the amount of calories you burn.0
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