Low carb diet leading me to constant binges - help! -
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lithezebra wrote: »positivepowers wrote: »Not sure why but maybe low carb isn't for you?
Low carb was recommended by her doctor as a way of mitigating a potentially dangerous health condition that predisposes the OP to diabetes and heart disease.
She didn't say that. Her dr suggested it as a possible weight loss strategy (which it is) after she plateaued. "my doc told me that there is great success for people with pcos who go low carb"
What we know is that she lost 4 lb low carbing and binged. She lost 35 lb on a non low carb diet (and doesn't mention binging).
Avoiding binging is helpful to weight loss success, and many PCOS people can lose without low carbing (although it is definitely something to try and balancing macros is likely a good idea, especially if one struggles with hunger).0 -
I have heard low carb being recommended with patients with PCOS. Here's a study supporting the plan (this one is a low carb high protein), 57 women. I find it interesting that half the women dropped out before six months. It might be a little hard to sustain.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/95/1/39.full0 -
I was never a sweets person until I went low/no carb. Within a week or so I couldn't control my sweets cravings and couldn't have just one of anything in the form of chocolate, cake, cookies, etc. It was horrible. I slowly incorporate health (slow-burning) carbs back into my diet which reduced the sweets cravings greatly. I don't have PCOS so I can't comment on that but I can say that since I went 100% plant-based I am getting everything I need, low calorie & nutritious with no cravings what so ever. Just a thought, just an option
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Thank you all
Me and my doctor spoke today , she mentioned upping fats as well
As for the peoe against low carb : My doctor specified that many of her patients improved their symptoms along with the weight loss benefited from low carb ... Many healed well from this ugly disease , and then went on with a normal lifestyle, as i have mentioned I'm only 10lbs away from my goal so i guess this last push will do and by that happening my symptoms should ease , after things are in control i plan in adding a few carbs back , I am sure that low carb is not something i want to stick with for my whole life , but after so many ugly symptoms of pcos ( one of them being hospitalized for extreme abnormal bleeding) I will do whatever it takes to be in a healthy weight and at least know that I tried my best to help myself... I 've had 2 great days of upping fats so far i feel great , hope this stays though
Pcos woman do anything to get rid of this very ugly disease
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Thank you all
Me and my doctor spoke today , she mentioned upping fats as well
As for the peoe against low carb : My doctor specified that many of her patients improved their symptoms along with the weight loss benefited from low carb ... Many healed well from this ugly disease , and then went on with a normal lifestyle, as i have mentioned I'm only 10lbs away from my goal so i guess this last push will do and by that happening my symptoms should ease , after things are in control i plan in adding a few carbs back , I am sure that low carb is not something i want to stick with for my whole life , but after so many ugly symptoms of pcos ( one of them being hospitalized for extreme abnormal bleeding) I will do whatever it takes to be in a healthy weight and at least know that I tried my best to help myself... I 've had 2 great days of upping fats so far i feel great , hope this stays though
Pcos woman do anything to get rid of this very ugly disease it can be depressing...
It is great that you feel good about the plan.
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Thank you all
Me and my doctor spoke today , she mentioned upping fats as well
As for the peoe against low carb : My doctor specified that many of her patients improved their symptoms along with the weight loss benefited from low carb ... Many healed well from this ugly disease , and then went on with a normal lifestyle, as i have mentioned I'm only 10lbs away from my goal so i guess this last push will do and by that happening my symptoms should ease , after things are in control i plan in adding a few carbs back , I am sure that low carb is not something i want to stick with for my whole life , but after so many ugly symptoms of pcos ( one of them being hospitalized for extreme abnormal bleeding) I will do whatever it takes to be in a healthy weight and at least know that I tried my best to help myself... I 've had 2 great days of upping fats so far i feel great , hope this stays though
Pcos woman do anything to get rid of this very ugly disease it can be depressing...
Well, I am not sure you can heal it, but you can improve your condition and get off medication and lose weight. One thing to consider, since you are very close to your goal is logging accuracy. Do you have a food scale? It is not uncommon for us to under report the amount of calories we consume because we don't have an effective tool to measure it. Generally, the two biggest problems I see on MFP is inaccurate and inconsistent logging practices.0 -
It's called a "balanced diet" for a reason. If you lower carbs, soon or later your body will start to crave it them. thus leading to binge eating thus resulting in yo-yo dieting..0
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It's called a "balanced diet" for a reason. If you lower carbs, soon or later your body will start to crave it them. thus leading to binge eating thus resulting in yo-yo dieting..
This really is not true. The OP has a condition that can be helped by going low carb. She needs to up her fat intake. She has been told this many times on this forum and also reported back that she spoke with her doctor who also suggested this.
Why people on MFP will continue arguing otherwise is beyond me... apparently tripple7 and others all know better than the OP and her doctor? hmm...
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Not everyone does well on a low carb diet with PCOS. I've done multiple diet experiments with my PCOS and high fiber or high protein will do the same thing for your blood sugar. So I'll tell you two things, try a whole foods plant based diet with a diet full of whole grains, legumes, fruits, and veggies and get your sweets from the fruit or occasional healthy treats OR continue on low carb, high protein and look for recipes for sweets using protein powder that has stevia in it. A lot of people make high protein ice creams or muffins that are made with low carb or gluten free flours.
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melonaulait wrote: »It could be that low carb isn't the best option for OP - it definitely isn't doable for everybody. Some thrive on low carb, but if you're having real trouble... Count calories instead.OhReally42 wrote: »If you find it hard to cut out carbs I would start gluten free and whole grain. Having Gluten and refined grains increases your insulin resistance and won't allow you to use the insulin you're taking in. You might notice that you feel fuller and then you can gradually lower the amount of breads, pastas, etc. Having less sweets you'll also notice you crave it less. You could try stocking up on fruit and eating that when you crave cake/cookies/whatever and then if you still crave it just have a small portion.
I believe gluten only adversely affects people who have celiacs. There's no benefit to just going gluten free and whole grain.
http://www.pcosdietsupport.com/diet-tips/pcos-and-gluten/
For PCOS diet is a totally different ball game. Ultimately that's up to her and her doctor.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »lithezebra wrote: »positivepowers wrote: »Not sure why but maybe low carb isn't for you?
Low carb was recommended by her doctor as a way of mitigating a potentially dangerous health condition that predisposes the OP to diabetes and heart disease.
She didn't say that. Her dr suggested it as a possible weight loss strategy (which it is) after she plateaued. "my doc told me that there is great success for people with pcos who go low carb"
What we know is that she lost 4 lb low carbing and binged. She lost 35 lb on a non low carb diet (and doesn't mention binging).
Avoiding binging is helpful to weight loss success, and many PCOS people can lose without low carbing (although it is definitely something to try and balancing macros is likely a good idea, especially if one struggles with hunger).
She did low carb and low fat (high protein) and binged. Her doc recommended low carb, but apparently didn't give her proper guidance on what that means. A proper low carb diet is high in fat, moderate in protein. It's a very common mistake people make when attempting low carb diets (OP said it herself - she, like many others, had the notion that "fat makes you fat" - everyone at MFP knows that's simply not true - too many calories makes you fat, regardless of source). People suggested that if she lowered the protein, and upped the fats, she might find more success in following doc's recommendation. More fat generally leads to more satiety and will hopefully reduce the cravings and/or urge to binge on sweets. If she wants to try a proper LCHF diet, then finds it doesn't work for her, she can always do something else. But LCHF has been shown to be particularly beneficial for those with PCOS.0 -
It's called a "balanced diet" for a reason. If you lower carbs, soon or later your body will start to crave it them. thus leading to binge eating thus resulting in yo-yo dieting..
I've been eating 50-80g of carbs a day for about 3 years. Not craving them. When exactly are the cravings supposed to start? Or is my body defective?0 -
OP, another thing you could do since you have a sweet tooth, is just incorporate a small treat into your diet. I preplan my calories for the day, and I try to work in something.
I do not have PCOS, but I have had success with a lower than US normal carb diet that includes plenty of healthy fats. I just stopped having grains and starches with every meal. When I do include them, I use whole grains usually paired with fats.0 -
successgal1 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »OP if you're still having sweet cravings once you're fully adapted, these are my go to's. So delicious!
http://screwedonstraight.net/keto-diet-peanut-butter-cup-fat-bombs/
Those look delicious. And there is no way I'm making them. I could not control myself! I 100 calorie treat would turn into 1200 just eating those!
I'm going to stick with mixing my chocolate protein powder with PB2!
I made those. I quartered the recipe and budgeted for 300 calories. Yum!0 -
It's called a "balanced diet" for a reason. If you lower carbs, soon or later your body will start to crave it them. thus leading to binge eating thus resulting in yo-yo dieting..
I too disagree with this. Many with IR find that the fewer carbs they have, the less they crave carbs.0 -
She was doing low carb no fat, so yes, she was doing it wrong.stevencloser wrote: »So we've got someone here plainly saying her low carb diet makes her binge and most people's advice is "Keep doing low carb" and "you're just not doing it right"?Lol
Its ok I actually upped my fats considerably i took a look at my diary in the past days and there is no fats at all !
I was always afraid of eating fats thinking it will make me fat .
Even now , i started by eating an avacado a day and using coconut oil in my coffee and I'm scared of gaining...
But tell u what , i can already feel fuller !
Any options other than avacado & cooking oils ?
Something that would ve just grab n go that has a higher fat amount ?
Thank u all for takong ur timebto advise me , all the best to all of u
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I have pcos and I have lost 35lbs then completely stalled for 2 months my doc told me that there is great success for people with pcos who go low carb so I started and yes i lost 4 lbs it seemed to be working perfectly, but I have a sweet tooth and every end of the week i would end up binging big on sweets and gaining them again and again for 2 months
Low carb high protein makes me always crave the things i really like
Why ?
I finally found what works , my measurements changed and i did lose it does give ne great energy , its so frustrating that mentally i can't control myself, i was 150lbs yesterday , today i woke up at 154lbs after a major binge on a pie and cake last night
Im so depressed
Are you eating low carb yet sweet foods like berries? These help me with cravings.0 -
kshama2001 wrote: »I have pcos and I have lost 35lbs then completely stalled for 2 months my doc told me that there is great success for people with pcos who go low carb so I started and yes i lost 4 lbs it seemed to be working perfectly, but I have a sweet tooth and every end of the week i would end up binging big on sweets and gaining them again and again for 2 months
Low carb high protein makes me always crave the things i really like
Why ?
I finally found what works , my measurements changed and i did lose it does give ne great energy , its so frustrating that mentally i can't control myself, i was 150lbs yesterday , today i woke up at 154lbs after a major binge on a pie and cake last night
Im so depressed
Are you eating low carb yet sweet foods like berries? These help me with cravings.
I actually eat a grapefruit a day
Is that a good option?
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And for update :
I never though FAT WONT MAKE YOU FAT!
Lol
So far I'm have a much better outcome than i thought , incorporating fats really does make me feel fuller and crave way less
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kshama2001 wrote: »I have pcos and I have lost 35lbs then completely stalled for 2 months my doc told me that there is great success for people with pcos who go low carb so I started and yes i lost 4 lbs it seemed to be working perfectly, but I have a sweet tooth and every end of the week i would end up binging big on sweets and gaining them again and again for 2 months
Low carb high protein makes me always crave the things i really like
Why ?
I finally found what works , my measurements changed and i did lose it does give ne great energy , its so frustrating that mentally i can't control myself, i was 150lbs yesterday , today i woke up at 154lbs after a major binge on a pie and cake last night
Im so depressed
Are you eating low carb yet sweet foods like berries? These help me with cravings.
I actually eat a grapefruit a day
Is that a good option?
How many ounces of grapefruit is one grapefruit? Here's the carbs and sugar for some other fruits. As you can see strawberries are way lower than the other two.
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I have pcos and I have lost 35lbs then completely stalled for 2 months my doc told me that there is great success for people with pcos who go low carb so I started and yes i lost 4 lbs it seemed to be working perfectly, but I have a sweet tooth and every end of the week i would end up binging big on sweets and gaining them again and again for 2 months
Low carb high protein makes me always crave the things i really like
Why ?
I finally found what works , my measurements changed and i did lose it does give ne great energy , its so frustrating that mentally i can't control myself, i was 150lbs yesterday , today i woke up at 154lbs after a major binge on a pie and cake last night
Im so depressed
@mita271 LCHP and LCHF have very different macros. My LCHF macro is more like 5% carbs (<50 grams daily), 15% protein and 80% fats. I could never taper off of carbs so I wound up going off of sugars and all forms of grains for pain management cold turkey and it worked in just 30 days so I am still with the same macro 18 months later because it worked in my case.
The physical carvings to binge faded fast after two weeks on the WOE. Mental cravings took months longer and are gone for the most part but because they are mental they are easier to manage than are biological cravings which are gone now.
I had to physically break the hold had on me. For some reason my cravings were only triggered by carb intake.
It is not easy to lose weight and impossible to prevent regains if we do not find how to eradicate our cravings in my experience after 40 years of yo yo dieting and 100%+ regains.
MFP is a great place because many people are success using many different approaches. In my case I had to figure out how to eradicate my cravings and did it by accident. 18 months later my general health and blood markers are better at age 65 then at 45.
Best of success. You will find your way forward in time.0 -
successgal1 wrote: »Christine_72 wrote: »OP if you're still having sweet cravings once you're fully adapted, these are my go to's. So delicious!
http://screwedonstraight.net/keto-diet-peanut-butter-cup-fat-bombs/
Those look delicious. And there is no way I'm making them. I could not control myself! I 100 calorie treat would turn into 1200 just eating those!
I'm going to stick with mixing my chocolate protein powder with PB2!
Hehe The first time I made them I ate the whole lot in one day...0 -
I forgot to ad my stats
5'1
Female
154lbs
28 yo
Wants to lose another 10lbs (just 10!)
Eat 1375cals
No excercise due to knee and back problems
One other thing that you might consider is that your calorie deficit could be too low. Calories still matter on a low-carb diet!
I tried typing your information into the Keto Calculator:
http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com/
Assuming a sedentary lifestyle, it estimated your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) at 1505 calories. Assuming that's accurate, you're eating at a deficit of 1505 - 1375 = 130 calories. That corresponds to a loss of 1 lb every 27 days, which is pretty slow. It would take 9 months to lose 10 lbs at that rate. If you went with a slightly larger deficit of 250 calories, eating at 1505 - 250 = 1255, you would lose 0.5 lb per week, which would get you to your goal in half the time.0 -
DoctorShock wrote: »I forgot to ad my stats
5'1
Female
154lbs
28 yo
Wants to lose another 10lbs (just 10!)
Eat 1375cals
No excercise due to knee and back problems
One other thing that you might consider is that your calorie deficit could be too low. Calories still matter on a low-carb diet!
I tried typing your information into the Keto Calculator:
http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com/
Assuming a sedentary lifestyle, it estimated your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) at 1505 calories. Assuming that's accurate, you're eating at a deficit of 1505 - 1375 = 130 calories. That corresponds to a loss of 1 lb every 27 days, which is pretty slow. It would take 9 months to lose 10 lbs at that rate. If you went with a slightly larger deficit of 250 calories, eating at 1505 - 250 = 1255, you would lose 0.5 lb per week, which would get you to your goal in half the time.
I already feel a little hungry on some days ...i would be scared to go lower , i would probably feel hungrier !
I really appreciate this info though
Thx0 -
Weight loss works well for PCOS. Weight loss is where it's at.0
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Low carb diets work great for everyone who doesn't like sweets. No wonder you binged.0
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My doctor specified that many of her patients improved their symptoms along with the weight loss benefited from low carb
Low carb is not the only way to lose weight, plus it doesn't work unless you have a calorie deficit.
The important thing is to lose weight, not go low carb.
Luckily, MFP can help you with that.0 -
Our bodies love carbohydrates, it's what we function on. It's why clean vegans are so healthy. Eating a lot of meat and fat isn't good for your body and can also make you feel icky. I try to eat mostly fruits veggies and carbs with little meat...and 1-2 days a week I eat meatless....0
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