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Eating before bed = weight GAIN

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  • Posts: 92 Member
    edited March 2016

    I'm talking about your other post--"can't lose weight eating carbs+sugar". Another myth in one day. And I'm sure your mother is lovely and means well.

    In the other post, I think I said it in the first sentence too.
    I read it in a low carb book.

    Maybe I forgot. Apologies if I did.
  • Posts: 1,794 Member
    Mavrick_RN wrote: »
    Saddam Hussein was still alive and Twitter was just being born. A lot has changed in 10 years.

    Stop living in the past.

    This kind of made me laugh. I've been part of this rodeo for over 45 years. Fad diets come and go and come back again. "Avocados are bad because they are all fat." Coconut is evil as well. Don't do this exercise and do more of this one. Oh wait, don't do that one, it's bad for your back. "Eat more to lose more." Corn syrup is bad, according to all the other sugary substance producers. Credible research has improved our understanding of how the human body works, however, it is still evolving. Today's absolutes will be next decade's has beens. It's OK to question past theories, just do some research and determine if new information is out there. Not everything 10, 20 or 30 years old is bunk just like everything now is not set in stone. As one of the older participants on MFP, I enjoy doing the research, I listen to those on here who add beneficial information, if there's something I'm skeptical about I ignore it. As far as eating before bed, I don't do it only because it gives me horrible heartburn.
  • Posts: 1,481 Member
    edited March 2016
    Rocknut53 wrote: »

    This kind of made me laugh. I've been part of this rodeo for over 45 years. Fad diets come and go and come back again. "Avocados are bad because they are all fat." Coconut is evil as well. Don't do this exercise and do more of this one. Oh wait, don't do that one, it's bad for your back. "Eat more to lose more." Corn syrup is bad, according to all the other sugary substance producers. Credible research has improved our understanding of how the human body works, however, it is still evolving. Today's absolutes will be next decade's has beens. It's OK to question past theories, just do some research and determine if new information is out there. Not everything 10, 20 or 30 years old is bunk just like everything now is not set in stone. As one of the older participants on MFP, I enjoy doing the research, I listen to those on here who add beneficial information, if there's something I'm skeptical about I ignore it. As far as eating before bed, I don't do it only because it gives me horrible heartburn.

    Weren't eggs still "bad" 10 years ago too? Now eggs are "good" again.

    I save 2/3rds of my calories for dinner because that works for me. I am good at practicing control during the day. If I try to spread them out more I just end up eating more overall because I still want to eat the same amount for dinner. 10 years ago maybe they would have called this "disordered eating". But now it can be "intermittent fasting".
  • Posts: 28,055 Member
    My wonderful mother keeps telling me this thing she heard on Oprah 10 years ago. Apparently a doctor on that show said if you eat right before bed, all those calories will go towards fat.

    Is there any truth to this?

    Tell your Mom that 14 years ago Oprah swore off "white stuff" (page 2) but now she is pushing Weight Watchers and "I have bread every day."
  • Posts: 288 Member
    NO.
  • Posts: 2,343 Member
    I haven't eaten a proper breakfast in years because I prefer a 10pm meal before bed, eat when you want.
  • Posts: 2,430 Member
    No. I probably saw the same Oprah 10 years ago because that's what I always thought! So i would always try to go to bed hungry, which would send me into a binge.
    After coming to the mfp forums and realizing it doesn't matter when you eat, 10 pounds figuratively melted off me. It was so wonderful.
  • Posts: 62 Member
    I don't think it matters what time you eat calorie/weight gain-wise, but for me, personally, if I eat right before bed, I wake up feeling famished in the morning and will devour anything in sight...so I try to not eat anything large within a couple hours of going to bed.
  • Posts: 27 Member
    I find that I slim down if I stop eating at 7pm and don't eat until 7am consistently (or 8pm to 8am etc), but that helps my body digest which is something I struggle with.
  • Posts: 1,765 Member
    For me, I can't eat too soon before bed because it screws with my sleep patterns. But that's not a weight loss thing. That's just a me thing. Oops, it's 8pm, can't have anything to eat now, or I won't sleep for hours.
  • Posts: 942 Member
    edited March 2016
    There is a little truth to it, but it's almost certainly overstated. Basically, your body continually has needs for the macro-nutrients. During the day it may need more calories for instance, and at night it might need fewer, but then maybe more protein depending on what you did that day. If you eat a lot more calories at night than your body needs it will tend to store those, but when you average it out over an entire day or a week, we're talking about very small amounts of weight gain...like ounces. But as a general rule of thumb, you should eat more when you're more active, and less when you're less active. That sounds crazy-obvious to me, but this ain't rocket surgery. lol
  • Posts: 18,343 Member
    Hadabetter wrote: »
    There is a little truth to it, but it's almost certainly overstated. Basically, your body continually has needs for the macro-nutrients. During the day it may need more calories for instance, and at night it might need fewer, but then maybe more protein depending on what you did that day. If you eat a lot more calories at night than your body needs it will tend to store those, but when you average it out over an entire day or a week, we're talking about very small amounts of weight gain...like ounces. But as a general rule of thumb, you should eat more when you're more active, and less when you're less active. That sounds crazy-obvious to me, but this ain't rocket surgery. lol

    There is no net fat storage while in a caloric deficit, regardless of when you eat. The body constantly ebbs and flows between anabolism and catabolism, but it's a continuous, ongoing loop. There's no "midnight reset" or 24-hour cycle in which the body stops at some set hour, tallies calories and decides whether or not to store fat. If you eat more in the evening and less in the morning, the net effect is the exact same. Meal timing is irrelevant.
  • Posts: 8,359 Member
    So I don't quite understand the goals here . Are you supposed to eat less then the goal? If so why is it a goal ?

    Eat your goal, that has your deficit built in.
  • Posts: 8,359 Member

    Ok.

    I guess the "stop living in the past" part sounded a little harsh to me. Didn't sound jokey.

    But it's alright.

    How does something typed sound like anything? This is the issue so many, myself included, have issues on online forums. It seems the tendency is to take things typed in the worst possible way rather than always giving the benefit of the doubt. I found the post in question humorous and tongue in cheek. I can see how someone could take it as sort of harsh, but maybe we would be all much less frustrated and annoyed in online forums if we assumed the best.
  • Posts: 312 Member
    I've heard this time and time again.....it's a simple rule I live by though, I don't eat anything within a 3 hour window of my bedtime.....if I'm going to bed at midnight....I won't eat anything after 9 p.m.....back in the day, that was ROUGH, but only because that was my VICE....that bag of potato chips in front of the television set......it's all about self-control ;) Now on ocassion I do have a protein shake before bed.....but I have found I do really sleep better when I go to bed in a complete "fasted" state.....

    My high school science teacher told us the body kinda shuts down when you fall asleep......I never got the urge to research it on my own, but he basically said if you eat before bed, that stuff kinda just settles there.....ever wake up in the morning and have extremely bad breathe? That's what had me believing it......
  • Posts: 18,343 Member
    ahoier wrote: »
    I've heard this time and time again.....it's a simple rule I live by though, I don't eat anything within a 3 hour window of my bedtime.....if I'm going to bed at midnight....I won't eat anything after 9 p.m.....back in the day, that was ROUGH, but only because that was my VICE....that bag of potato chips in front of the television set......it's all about self-control ;) Now on ocassion I do have a protein shake before bed.....but I have found I do really sleep better when I go to bed in a complete "fasted" state.....

    My high school science teacher told us the body kinda shuts down when you fall asleep......I never got the urge to research it on my own, but he basically said if you eat before bed, that stuff kinda just settles there.....ever wake up in the morning and have extremely bad breathe? That's what had me believing it......

    That's an old wives' tale that refuses to die. Your metabolism works 24 hours a day. If your metabolism shuts down, you're dead - and waking up dead isn't a good thing.
  • Posts: 49,131 Member
    Relying on information from sources who lack true understanding of how physiology works isn't wise. But it does make for great advertising and endorsement of products to sell.

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  • Posts: 18,343 Member
    edited March 2016
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Relying on information from sources who lack true understanding of how physiology works isn't wise. But it does make for great advertising and endorsement of products to sell.

    ...or sources who intentionally misrepresent how physiology works in order to sell their products.
  • Posts: 49,131 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »

    ...or sources who intentionally misrepresent how physiology works in order to sell their products.
    That too.

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  • Posts: 2,238 Member
    To understand the logic behind the "don't eat after X PM" idea, you need to understand where it comes from. It comes from observations that an 'average' overweight person eats a fair number of calories in evening snacking, and if you stopped snacking in the evenings but kept everything else the same, you would be eating fewer total calories.

    If you eat the same total calories (e.g. by calorie counting and setting goals) then it doesn't matter one whit when in the day you eat them. If stopping eating earlier helps you eat fewer total calories, then it's a useful trick for you.

    In all cases, the weight loss is from the calorie deficit, this is one trick that may help some people create a deficit without counting calories. Of course if you do count calories, you can create the deficit with whatever eating pattern you prefer.
  • Posts: 192 Member
    So I don't quite understand the goals here . Are you supposed to eat less then the goal? If so why is it a goal ?

    When you were setting up your account, you set up goals designed to lose, gain or maintain weight http://www.myfitnesspal.com/account/change_goals_guided That calorie amount, if your intent is to lose, is what you should eat daily to lose and keep that good old metabolic engine purring along! If you go back to that same area within MFP after you've reached your weight goal, you can change to a maintenance model. You'll have to amend things here and there for your personal engine, but this is a good approach.
  • Posts: 17,890 Member
    So I don't quite understand the goals here . Are you supposed to eat less then the goal? If so why is it a goal ?

    This got lots of replies. Am I the only one who took it as sarcasm?
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