Why the guilt?
glassyo
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So lately I've seen various posters say they feel guilty for over eating or gaining weight, etc.
Why do you/they feel guilty?
I mean, if I tell myself I'm only going to eat half a donut but end up eating that half and a whole extra donut, as well, I feel annoyed with myself but never guilty. Even if I knowingly underestimate said donuts when logging them.
So get comfy on my couch and bare your guilty soul.
(No, really, I don't understand why people would feel guilty and I'm curious.)
Why do you/they feel guilty?
I mean, if I tell myself I'm only going to eat half a donut but end up eating that half and a whole extra donut, as well, I feel annoyed with myself but never guilty. Even if I knowingly underestimate said donuts when logging them.
So get comfy on my couch and bare your guilty soul.
(No, really, I don't understand why people would feel guilty and I'm curious.)
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I don't think there any one clear cut answer. Sometimes I think ita because the vast majority of newer people on here are looking at being on a "diet". So if they eat that donut they are cheating at their diet, and it's natural to feel guilt when you cheat at something. Sometimes it's not fully having a grasp of how little damage overall that donut will do to you. Someone eats a whole bag of chips and sure it puts them over their goal, but how far over maintenance did they actually go if they shooting for a large deficit? They just wake up the next day and see the scale says they gained 10 pounds so they think one binge and it's over, not realizing that 10 pounds is 95% water from the sodium overload. So when you think that one mistake erased a whole month of work in the blink of an eye it gets you down.
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"Women feel the need to confess and atone because we've been taught that eating certain foods or eating too much is sinful. ... We go back and forth between using food as reward or punishment...and there are some days when you can't even tell the difference between the two."
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10305332/when-food-guilt-is-ruining-your-life0 -
I've just said a similar thing elsewhere, if I shovel a pie in my face i feel crappy for a little while I log it on here, swallow the last bite while the app flashes me about bad fats and carbs... then I close the app, think about maybe going for a run for a while and move on.
Don't do it often mind you, pies are real bad!0 -
I think a lot of people say "guilt" when they mean "regret".0
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I'm going to guess part of it is because of all the "you control you" "only YOU determine ... " blah blah
The diet industry (including these forums) have set it up so that if they cheat or go over, they feel as if they have failed as a person and have no self control.
Instead of just having a bad day and moving on.0 -
Because i feel out of control and greedy. I was always told that being greedy was one of the ugliest traits to have. We didnt have seconds in my house growing up and portions were put out in the kitchen - no self serve.
I'm okay with that - but do feel bad if i eat more than i planned. (or when i see others eating large amounts of food)0 -
"Feeling guilty" is probably a poor expression due to the limit of language. Some even liken it to killing for comparison. However it's completely "legit" to feel bad for a failure and diet isn't a small endeavor.0
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For me, it tends to be because I feel like it made my previous hard work for nothing, because I wiped out my calorie deficit (or at least some if it), and because I know it will be even longer to reach my goals.0
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I'm going to guess part of it is because of all the "you control you" "only YOU determine ... " blah blah
The diet industry (including these forums) have set it up so that if they cheat or go over, they feel as if they have failed as a person and have no self control.
Instead of just having a bad day and moving on.
If "you don't control you", you would not be watching calories and consumption. Fact is, when you screw up, you've lost control over your own plan and the answer for me isn't feeling guilty or even just walking away, the answer is spending a little time examining how I respond to stimulus and what I can do to change my response.
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I feel guilty because my willpower fails.
But I don't see how it's a bad thing, I'd still be 200 pounds if I didn't feel guilty over eating too much... (and let's be clear, I don't feel guilty about eating anything unless I end up over my goal).I think a lot of people say "guilt" when they mean "regret".
No, I only regret it if the food was not worth the calories.0 -
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I too just regret, never feel guilt for eating. I think we forget to take into account how religious we humans are. Overindulgence is one of the "deadly sins". Food tastes good, and junk food tastes even better, without even being especially useful, so if one is determined to "diet" and equals that to suffering, eating for pleasure must create an intense feeling of conflict.
Another aspect, that hadn't hit me until yesterday when I read the page linked below, mainly because I tend to be in the "outgroup", is that there is a social aspect to guilt - the confession. We see it all the time, people (especially women) feel the need to share their guilt, and giggle a bit.
http://www.rookiemag.com/2012/07/eating-a-manifesto/0 -
I usually only feel guilt if I've REALLY gone overboard for several days in a row. Last night I logged my nice, low cal Subway sandwich I planned on eating which fit perfectly into my day. On the way there, I saw a Chipotle and my 450 sandwich turned into a 1000 calorie burrito. No regrets, it was totally worth it.0
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Thanks. That helps.
There was also this thread that was bumped with a good explanation:
community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10305332/when-food-guilt-is-ruining-your-life#latest0 -
I don't really understand the guilt thing, either. I have experienced regret that I blew my calories on something that didn't even taste that good, or annoyance that I overate and thus will take longer to reach my goals, but food doesn't make me feel guilty.0
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Some of us are more tightly wound. I am a stressy/worried person. With that can come guilt. I have learned not to feel so guilty when I slip up with food, but I still get a little stressed. We are all different.0
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There really isn't a big difference in regret and guilt. One is feeling bad about something you've done (regret) the other is feeling bad because you know or think you've done something wrong or bad (guilt)
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I think a lot of people equate it with a personal failure. Some people are just much harder on themselves than others.0
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I think it really is guilt for me. If I decide I'm going to have a high-calorie meal with wine and dessert and then go back to my low-calorie eating after that, I don't feel guilty at all and I enjoy it. But if I plan my healthy eating and end up sabotaging the plan on a whim, I feel guilty. I feel as though I've failed myself and my good intentions in that moment of weakness.
I don't let the guilt stick though. I move on, knowing there's nothing I can do about it but change my behaviour in the future. And the next time, I remember how bad I felt for failing myself, and I make a better choice. And it feels great.0 -
Semantics0
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Last night I had way too many beers, took an Uber through the Jack in the Box drive through and proceeded to eat $11.85 worth of fast food (equal to several thousand calories on top of the copious amounts of beer I had already had).
Woke up this morning to quite the scale increase as well as a feeling of guilt. I had to do some serious self talk to pull myself out of it, but I was able to realize it was nothing worth stressing over. So it's going to take me another week or two to hit my goal? Big deal. The Sourdough Jack was delicious.
ETA: If I go over my goals for the day by a few hundred calories because I decided to have a couple glasses of wine, I don't feel guilty. The feelings of guilt occur when I either over-indulge beyond what I see as "reasonable", or when I over-indulge out of impulse rather than choice (and often times these two go together). What bothers me the most when this happens isn't the extra calories or hindrance it'll have on my weight loss goals, it's the fact that it challenges the idea I have of myself as a healthy, active, in control person.0 -
I feel guilty for not being able to stop myself from a bad decision. I regret what happened when I did not.0
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What Orphia said. Women especially are taught that there are "good" and "bad" foods and that dieting is a virtue and eating whatever you like is a sin. In my case, I don't know if it's actual guilt as much as a self-esteem issue: "You're weak and have no willpower, blah blah." Which of course gives me permission to stay on the downward slide. So now I'm trying to tell myself, "Boy, that's yummy, but is it worth cutting out an extra 400 calories tomorrow?" Sometimes it is, most of the time it isn't.0
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »There really isn't a big difference in regret and guilt. One is feeling bad about something you've done (regret) the other is feeling bad because you know or think you've done something wrong or bad (guilt)
So a convicted criminal is guilty because he knows or thinks he has done the crime, not necessarily the fact that he has done it? Great! throw all the crazy guys in jail.Semantics
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For me, like I said, I just get annoyed with myself because of the lack of will power. I know I can eat it as long as I log it but I like to eat most of my food at night so if I end up eating those donut(s) (or attempting to only eat that half a donut that ends up plural) during the day it screws me up for the night. Or when I tell myself I just want the shredded chicken and some fruit from the Whole Foods salad bar but end up with some samples of meat I want to try along with some sort of rice or pasta as well.0
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Some of us will also have been raised in ways that foster this kind of thinking. (Please understand, this is not unadulterated "blame the parents" line - adults can become aware of having these feelings, and learn to manage them: We, not our parents, are now responsible for our attitudes and behavior.)
What I mean is that it's common for some to use use treats as rewards, and removal of special foods or eating opportunities as punishments. That positions food as something associated with guilt, shame, regret, reward, deserving or not deserving things, etc.
Also, some people find it productive to use guilt or self-criticism as sort of a motivator. I used to do that somewhat, but no longer do. At. All.
I know, and feel sad, that many women do feel guilt about food, "good" and "bad" foods, the "virtue" of thinness. It's sincerely a common, difficult problem. I don't, myself, ever recall having felt that way. (As an aside, that's not the only respect in which I'm kind of abnormal as a woman in our culture.) I know about it, but I don't understand it at a gut level.0
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