Issues with sugar
thatlostgirloverthere
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I have a hugeeee problem with sugar, and quite frankly, I eat wayyy too much of it. I've tried to stop, but I always fail miserably. I try to eat less sugar, and I've tried to just cut it out cold turkey, but that only makes me want it more. I eat baked goods, candy, cereals, yogurts, and other foods with sugar in it (like General Tso's chicken), etc.
I know cutting down on refined carbs helps, but I'm trying to keep a moderate to high carb diet because a low carb diet won't work well with my antidepressant.
I would love to hear from people who have issues with sugar addiction/ or people who have issues with sugar in general. More specifically, I'd love to hear how you all got over it, or how you keep it at bay.
Thanks so much!
I know cutting down on refined carbs helps, but I'm trying to keep a moderate to high carb diet because a low carb diet won't work well with my antidepressant.
I would love to hear from people who have issues with sugar addiction/ or people who have issues with sugar in general. More specifically, I'd love to hear how you all got over it, or how you keep it at bay.
Thanks so much!
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I have found success by eating more protein than I used to. At least 20% of my calories.0
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Second the more protein. I also don't restrict myself. If I want some ice cream, I'll have some but an appropriate or smaller than portion. I rarely eat bread, unless it's deliciously fresh and I have the calories for it. I don't eat or keep around candy, cereal, yogurt or fried Chinese food. In general, it sounds like rather than focusing on SUGAR, maybe it would be better to focus on simply eating HEALTHIER. Throw out and don't buy the processed foods. It's much easier to not eat something when you don't have it.0
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My issues with sugar are actually physical pain. If I eat too much I wake up feeling bruised and sore all over. So I have to make a conscious decision. If I go over a certain amount I WILL feel horrible. I have tricks for treats that I use to keep the sugar down and the volume high.0
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Throw things in the garbage. Just do it.
I don't even buy sugary cereals, cupcakes.
Buy greek yogurt.0 -
If you want to eat a moderate/high carb diet without resorting to refined carbs, you have to fill in those gaps with unrefined carbs. Make it easy to choose what you want in your diet by surrounding yourself with it.
When I started strength training, I'd always crave something sweet after meals. Once I started putting more complex carbs into my meals (veggies, potatoes, rice, yams, beans, sweet potatoes, etc), most of those cravings went away.0 -
goldthistime wrote: »I have found success by eating more protein than I used to. At least 20% of my calories.Second the more protein. I also don't restrict myself. If I want some ice cream, I'll have some but an appropriate or smaller than portion. I rarely eat bread, unless it's deliciously fresh and I have the calories for it. I don't eat or keep around candy, cereal, yogurt or fried Chinese food. In general, it sounds like rather than focusing on SUGAR, maybe it would be better to focus on simply eating HEALTHIER. Throw out and don't buy the processed foods. It's much easier to not eat something when you don't have it.
Thanks so much! I'm going to try and eat more protein! It's kind of hard for me not to keep these foods around because I live with my nieces and nephews, and their mom buys sugary things for them to snack on. My boss also LOVES to give me candy and cookies. No matter how much I say no.
I'll try to be more serious about cutting the processed foods. I think this will help a lot.0 -
arditarose wrote: »My issues with sugar are actually physical pain. If I eat too much I wake up feeling bruised and sore all over. So I have to make a conscious decision. If I go over a certain amount I WILL feel horrible. I have tricks for treats that I use to keep the sugar down and the volume high.
Wow! Sugar really is awful for people. I don't feel that great all the time, but I never really thought that this could be because of sugar. What do you eat when the cravings are high?0 -
Perhaps consulting a professional dietician would help you sort through the complexities of your depression and addiction.0
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thatlostgirloverthere wrote: »arditarose wrote: »My issues with sugar are actually physical pain. If I eat too much I wake up feeling bruised and sore all over. So I have to make a conscious decision. If I go over a certain amount I WILL feel horrible. I have tricks for treats that I use to keep the sugar down and the volume high.
Wow! Sugar really is awful for people. I don't feel that great all the time, but I never really thought that this could be because of sugar. What do you eat when the cravings are high?
Sugar is not "really awful for people". Unless you have a medical condition, eating a moderate amount of sugar daily is fine. Having a high sugar treat here and there, also fine.
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thatlostgirloverthere wrote: »arditarose wrote: »My issues with sugar are actually physical pain. If I eat too much I wake up feeling bruised and sore all over. So I have to make a conscious decision. If I go over a certain amount I WILL feel horrible. I have tricks for treats that I use to keep the sugar down and the volume high.
Wow! Sugar really is awful for people. I don't feel that great all the time, but I never really thought that this could be because of sugar. What do you eat when the cravings are high?
It isnt bad. Too much is.0 -
You could also have yeast in your body which can also make you crave sugar. The symptoms aren't always the itchy ones in the nether regions. Yeast can also cause lots of other problems. Just thought I'd throw that out there.0
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I had issues with sugars - I was horrible at modeating my intake. I finally adopted a low carb high fat diet to treat insulin resistance and was thrilled when my carb cravings went away after a few days of keeping carbs below 30g. It isn't for everyone, but very LCHF works well for me.0
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Are you eating so much sugar that you're going over your calorie goal?
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thatlostgirloverthere wrote: »arditarose wrote: »My issues with sugar are actually physical pain. If I eat too much I wake up feeling bruised and sore all over. So I have to make a conscious decision. If I go over a certain amount I WILL feel horrible. I have tricks for treats that I use to keep the sugar down and the volume high.
Wow! Sugar really is awful for people. I don't feel that great all the time, but I never really thought that this could be because of sugar. What do you eat when the cravings are high?
@arditarose since I left sugar and all forms of grains at the same time at the age of 63 I am not sure if it was cutting out both or it was one or the other but my pain was managed within 30 days. Leg swelling, IBS, blood work and pressure, etc all resolved. After being off them for 1.5 years I never plan to either either again but I do not freak out about eating food that has touched grains or sugar.
@thatlostgirloverthere in my case two weeks after totally ditching sugars and grains my physical craving started to fade fast. That was key to losing 50 pounds and keeping it off for the past year eating 2500-3000 calories daily.
Sugar is really of awful for me but not all people.0 -
You could also have yeast in your body which can also make you crave sugar. The symptoms aren't always the itchy ones in the nether regions. Yeast can also cause lots of other problems. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
@hdrj22078 I think yeast overgrowth was a major issue gut wise in my case. That is one reason I got heavy into coconut oil usage and still use it daily.0 -
Sugar is more addictive than Cocaine?
These articles might put things into prospective and could assist your addiction.
The below some points from Growing Human Kindness Article-
1/ Eating breakfast every morning
2/ Including fat and protein in your meals
3/ Eating regular meals (This is very calming and reassuring to the body.)
4/ Drinking more water and less juice, sodas, and more
5/ Creating a nourishing bedtime routine where you’re regularly getting 7 + hours of sleep a night
http://growinghumankindness.com/sugar-support/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsullum/2013/10/16/research-shows-cocaine-and-heroin-are-less-addictive-than-oreos/#879826e4b7bd
Scientific Paper-
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/0 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »thatlostgirloverthere wrote: »arditarose wrote: »My issues with sugar are actually physical pain. If I eat too much I wake up feeling bruised and sore all over. So I have to make a conscious decision. If I go over a certain amount I WILL feel horrible. I have tricks for treats that I use to keep the sugar down and the volume high.
Wow! Sugar really is awful for people. I don't feel that great all the time, but I never really thought that this could be because of sugar. What do you eat when the cravings are high?
@arditarose since I left sugar and all forms of grains at the same time at the age of 63 I am not sure if it was cutting out both or it was one or the other but my pain was managed within 30 days. Leg swelling, IBS, blood work and pressure, etc all resolved. After being off them for 1.5 years I never plan to either either again but I do not freak out about eating food that has touched grains or sugar.
@thatlostgirloverthere in my case two weeks after totally ditching sugars and grains my physical craving started to fade fast. That was key to losing 50 pounds and keeping it off for the past year eating 2500-3000 calories daily.
Sugar is really of awful for me but not all people.
Gale do you eat fruit at all? I was wondering if you react differently to fruit sugars than from candy sugars.0 -
You could also have yeast in your body which can also make you crave sugar. The symptoms aren't always the itchy ones in the nether regions. Yeast can also cause lots of other problems. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
...I do recall reading something about this ....glad you mentioned it, gonna read up on it again.
I don't believe sugar effects all of us the same way. Though I do believe for some eating sugar creates an urge to crave more. I'm currently in this group...cold turkey seems to be the only way for me at the moment. Later I'll see if I can try various types out again...dark chocolate doesn't seem to have the same effect in the cravings.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »You could also have yeast in your body which can also make you crave sugar. The symptoms aren't always the itchy ones in the nether regions. Yeast can also cause lots of other problems. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
@hdrj22078 I think yeast overgrowth was a major issue gut wise in my case. That is one reason I got heavy into coconut oil usage and still use it daily.
Do you just cook with the coconut oil? I've tried taking a tablespoon several times but I just couldn't do it.0 -
I'm a sugar addict. I'm going to try and cut it out after easter0
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This is a case for a dietitian.0
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Christine_72 wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »thatlostgirloverthere wrote: »arditarose wrote: »My issues with sugar are actually physical pain. If I eat too much I wake up feeling bruised and sore all over. So I have to make a conscious decision. If I go over a certain amount I WILL feel horrible. I have tricks for treats that I use to keep the sugar down and the volume high.
Wow! Sugar really is awful for people. I don't feel that great all the time, but I never really thought that this could be because of sugar. What do you eat when the cravings are high?
@arditarose since I left sugar and all forms of grains at the same time at the age of 63 I am not sure if it was cutting out both or it was one or the other but my pain was managed within 30 days. Leg swelling, IBS, blood work and pressure, etc all resolved. After being off them for 1.5 years I never plan to either either again but I do not freak out about eating food that has touched grains or sugar.
@thatlostgirloverthere in my case two weeks after totally ditching sugars and grains my physical craving started to fade fast. That was key to losing 50 pounds and keeping it off for the past year eating 2500-3000 calories daily.
Sugar is really of awful for me but not all people.
Gale do you eat fruit at all? I was wondering if you react differently to fruit sugars than from candy sugars.
@Christine_72 in my case it is the carbs from any sugar source that I try to avoid so I can stay in a state of nutritional ketosis to trigger Chaperone Mediated Autophagy to remove junk protein from my cells to reduce my risk of premature death since my stated goal is to live to be 110 years old and walking and talking the entire way. Preventing Alzheimer's and other age related health issues is my main goal for triggering CMA by a healthy diet.
Below are some links some may be interested in reviewing or using as a diving board to go even deeper. They for the most part are research projects so technical in nature but not all.
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014579309010710
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014579309010710
jbc.org/content/280/27/25864.full
grassfedroots.com/ketogenic-diet-answer-effortless-weight-loss-health-longevity/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1282589/ A ketogenic diet reduces amyloid beta 40 and 42 in a mouse model of Alzheimer's disease
https://proteinpower.com/drmike/2006/02/27/ketosis-cleans-our-cells/ This is a relative Low Tech read.
The "Issue With Sugar" is it seems to interfere with our natural defenses against premature death perhaps.
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Cutting out sugar helps my mood to stabilize. I feel happier, lighter, more energetic, clear headed, etc....
Sugar is bad for me.0 -
It takes time to change a behavior. And trying to do a 180 WON'T usually work. You start by eating a little less of it till you get used to it. Then eat a little less a couple of weeks later. And so on and so on.thatlostgirloverthere wrote: »I have a hugeeee problem with sugar, and quite frankly, I eat wayyy too much of it. I've tried to stop, but I always fail miserably. I try to eat less sugar, and I've tried to just cut it out cold turkey, but that only makes me want it more. I eat baked goods, candy, cereals, yogurts, and other foods with sugar in it (like General Tso's chicken), etc.
I know cutting down on refined carbs helps, but I'm trying to keep a moderate to high carb diet because a low carb diet won't work well with my antidepressant.
I would love to hear from people who have issues with sugar addiction/ or people who have issues with sugar in general. More specifically, I'd love to hear how you all got over it, or how you keep it at bay.
Thanks so much!
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GaleHawkins wrote: »You could also have yeast in your body which can also make you crave sugar. The symptoms aren't always the itchy ones in the nether regions. Yeast can also cause lots of other problems. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
@hdrj22078 I think yeast overgrowth was a major issue gut wise in my case. That is one reason I got heavy into coconut oil usage and still use it daily.
Do you just cook with the coconut oil? I've tried taking a tablespoon several times but I just couldn't do it.
Since I eat out a couple times a day I do not cook with coconut oil. I can eat it straight if I am in a rush but I do not crave eating that way.
Mainly I have 3 tablespoons in coffee or green tea 2X daily with heavy whipping cream.
I got into coconut oil trying to manage my joint and muscle pain due to its anti bacterial, protozoa and virus properties as I was trying to tape off of sugar and grains. My time was running out and I was not successful at tapering off sugars and all grains so I left sugar and all forms of grains cold turkey Oct 2014 and had good pain manage by diet only 30 days later.
What was the role if any of coconut oil I do not know. Within 6 months my 480 months of serious IBS resolved and has not returned 12 months later and I do expect the coconut oil played a positive roll.
Since I get 80% of my calories from fats getting 700 of my total daily 2500-3000 calories from coconut oil fits my macro and as you know on here if it fits your macro it is the right way to eat. Since I am down 50 pounds and it has stayed off for a year now eating high calorie but <50 grams of carbs daily my macro is proven especially since my health and lab work is much improved over the past 18 months.
@hdrj22078 my use of coconut oil is not typical nor do I advice others on how/what to eat because that would make me a fool for giving advice as well as anyone who looks to social media for dieting advice.
100% of the time that I read social media stuff on any way of eating I use Google and find medical research on the matter that supports and/or refutes info in posts then I make my medical decision on where to test or not test something of interest to me.
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I also have problems w refined sugars. When I eat them, I crave more. I try to stay away from refined sugars and corn syrup. Many people will disagree but when I eat something w corn syrup, I just want more. I try not to eat it. It makes my blood sugar spike and leaves me feeling extremely tired and sluggish.
I agree w one of the posts above, the more protein I eat, the less I crave sugar.0 -
thatlostgirloverthere wrote: »I have a hugeeee problem with sugar, and quite frankly, I eat wayyy too much of it. I've tried to stop, but I always fail miserably. I try to eat less sugar, and I've tried to just cut it out cold turkey, but that only makes me want it more. I eat baked goods, candy, cereals, yogurts, and other foods with sugar in it (like General Tso's chicken), etc.
I know cutting down on refined carbs helps, but I'm trying to keep a moderate to high carb diet because a low carb diet won't work well with my antidepressant.
I would love to hear from people who have issues with sugar addiction/ or people who have issues with sugar in general. More specifically, I'd love to hear how you all got over it, or how you keep it at bay.
Thanks so much!
My vegan friends have high carbs diets, but they are getting their carbs from foods like legumes, rice, fruits and vegetables, and do not have sugar cravings.
When I do the following, I don't have cravings:
1. Get sufficient sleep
2. Exercise regularly - when I get the happy hormones from exercise, I'm not prone to seeking them from food.
3. Get sufficient protein in relationship to carbs. I'm not low carb, but reducing carbs and upping protein worked for cravings for me.
4. Eat moderate amounts of fruit
5. Take a magnesium supplement. This can be especially helpful for women premenstrually.
6. Save foods like chocolate for after dinner, in small amounts0 -
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For magnesium alternatve could be pepetas, spinach etc. Has fibre also which most supplements don't plus other nutrients that aren't contained in a purely magnesium supplement. IMO0
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