Gains, Pain & Middle Age - 5 pounds in 3 weeks

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  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    Great progress!
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    Keep it up!
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    Nice work. How do you like the shoes so far? I have been considering picking some up.
  • 883xlsportster
    883xlsportster Posts: 221 Member
    Thanks Wheelhouse & Springfield.

    psulemon,

    They are very firm and do find them helpful when performing light reps & sets. Thinking that shoes alone could help my brutal back squat form under load was a bit of a pipe dream. Only do heavy weight on a powertec lever squat now and wear my regular trainers.
  • rippedhippie
    rippedhippie Posts: 24 Member
    Not a Beachbody coach...no dog in the hunt.

    Good program,

    Body Beast...

    I'm pushing 52 years old. I've always been a speed and agility guy. But started to shift gears and move towards bulking up a bit. I've went from 157 pounds at 12.5% BF to 167 pounds at 13% body fat.
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    edited March 2016
    Rather then a new thread a little update on my progress. Got another 3 pounds. The first 5 came fast but the next three took more then twice the time. Steady as she goes I guess.
    Solved my knee pain with the purchase of a powertec lever squat. Floor press working great for the cuffs / shoulders. Let the gains continue :)

    Nice work.

    Take a look at the inverted kettlebell floor press at near the end of this article:

    http://robertsontrainingsystems.com/blog/floor-press/

    Physical therapist I've been seeing, who is also a Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist really likes this for people coming off cuff surgery or trying to avoid.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    Not a Beachbody coach...no dog in the hunt.

    Good program,

    Body Beast...

    I'm pushing 52 years old. I've always been a speed and agility guy. But started to shift gears and move towards bulking up a bit. I've went from 157 pounds at 12.5% BF to 167 pounds at 13% body fat.

    Body beast is mediocre. There is too much focus on isometric lifts and not enough frequency. And, yes, while you can gain muscle, its not an optimal program by any means. And yes, i have done the program 3 times and it is what got me lifting big.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    Thanks Wheelhouse & Springfield.

    psulemon,

    They are very firm and do find them helpful when performing light reps & sets. Thinking that shoes alone could help my brutal back squat form under load was a bit of a pipe dream. Only do heavy weight on a powertec lever squat now and wear my regular trainers.

    Nice. Might have to check out some.
  • 883xlsportster
    883xlsportster Posts: 221 Member
    edited March 2016
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    Nice work.

    Take a look at the inverted kettlebell floor press at near the end of this article:

    http://robertsontrainingsystems.com/blog/floor-press/

    Physical therapist I've been seeing, who is also a Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist really likes this for people coming off cuff surgery or trying to avoid.

    After floor pressing for 2 months I have managed to get a few medium weight flat bench in a few times. For me I have found I need to be on my shoulder blades, back arched, medium grip, elbows in & coming down about 3/4 of the way to my chest. Any deviation from that form this will result in cuff pain that will linger for a week or so. This is also in my chest routine. Fantastic if you make a mind muscle contraction through ROM. The movement is at 3:10 mark.

  • 883xlsportster
    883xlsportster Posts: 221 Member
    Not a Beachbody coach...no dog in the hunt.

    Good program,

    Body Beast...

    Don't get to the beach much these days. If I did probably be looking for shade.. heh.
    I'm a creature of (old) habits. I'm using the same push,legs,pull routine I used 25 years ago. Besides having my personal goals I work with a couple of young fellas. Half my age and twice the testosterone. We have a bit of a hypertrophy gains challenge going on. Great for my motivation and great to teach the young guys that middle age gains are attainable.
  • 883xlsportster
    883xlsportster Posts: 221 Member
    Today marks 3 months since I first picked up a weight and started eating better since my training layoff 25 years ago.

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  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    Great job!
  • _benjammin
    _benjammin Posts: 1,224 Member
    Great work. How old?
  • 883xlsportster
    883xlsportster Posts: 221 Member
    Thanks Springfield & Ben.
    Ben,
    49 years young. 50 in Oct.
  • _benjammin
    _benjammin Posts: 1,224 Member
    Looking very young indeed. I'll be 43 years young at the end of month, been health conscious and exercising for nearly 4 years after doing nothing but getting unhealthy for 15 years.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    pbryd wrote: »
    I'm in my early 40's and have started my own lean bulk. The only advice I can offer is something I heard from Mark Rippetoe, that volume is the main obstacle for the older lifter.

    That's interesting. Funny enough I seem to tolerate high volume very well despite being 56. I did 10 x 10 on holiday recently as I was very limited on weight/equipment in the hotel gym and apart from some DOMS recovery wasn't really an issue.

    I do have very good cardio fitness though so maybe that helps?

    What kills me is trying to go below 3RM, joints/tendons really don't appreciate it.

  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    sijomial wrote: »
    pbryd wrote: »
    I'm in my early 40's and have started my own lean bulk. The only advice I can offer is something I heard from Mark Rippetoe, that volume is the main obstacle for the older lifter.

    That's interesting. Funny enough I seem to tolerate high volume very well despite being 56. I did 10 x 10 on holiday recently as I was very limited on weight/equipment in the hotel gym and apart from some DOMS recovery wasn't really an issue.

    I do have very good cardio fitness though so maybe that helps?

    What kills me is trying to go below 3RM, joints/tendons really don't appreciate it.

    I have similar issues as you. I tend to have less issues with 8-15 reps than I do with 3-5 reps. In fact, I had to stop doing PHUL for that reason and now I use German Body Comp for my workout program.
  • 883xlsportster
    883xlsportster Posts: 221 Member
    sijomial wrote: »
    pbryd wrote: »
    I'm in my early 40's and have started my own lean bulk. The only advice I can offer is something I heard from Mark Rippetoe, that volume is the main obstacle for the older lifter.

    That's interesting. Funny enough I seem to tolerate high volume very well despite being 56. I did 10 x 10 on holiday recently as I was very limited on weight/equipment in the hotel gym and apart from some DOMS recovery wasn't really an issue.

    I do have very good cardio fitness though so maybe that helps?

    What kills me is trying to go below 3RM, joints/tendons really don't appreciate it.
    I had the same concern early on. Has not been a problem thus far but I'm not PL. I am finding my push,leg,pull,rest & repeat split with hypertrophy progressive overload is not making me as sore. I still feel it in my triceps but everything else doesn't get the good post pump sore for a few days anymore. Wondering if thats a sign of overtraining or something else? Perhaps more reps and a change to a 5 day split?
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,426 MFP Moderator
    sijomial wrote: »
    pbryd wrote: »
    I'm in my early 40's and have started my own lean bulk. The only advice I can offer is something I heard from Mark Rippetoe, that volume is the main obstacle for the older lifter.

    That's interesting. Funny enough I seem to tolerate high volume very well despite being 56. I did 10 x 10 on holiday recently as I was very limited on weight/equipment in the hotel gym and apart from some DOMS recovery wasn't really an issue.

    I do have very good cardio fitness though so maybe that helps?

    What kills me is trying to go below 3RM, joints/tendons really don't appreciate it.
    I had the same concern early on. Has not been a problem thus far but I'm not PL. I am finding my push,leg,pull,rest & repeat split with hypertrophy progressive overload is not making me as sore. I still feel it in my triceps but everything else doesn't get the good post pump sore for a few days anymore. Wondering if thats a sign of overtraining or something else? Perhaps more reps and a change to a 5 day split?

    Muscle soreness isn't really an indication of training. And your body has probably adapted to the routine. But as long as you are increasing weight or reps, you are in a solid position.

    BTW, I rarely get upper body soreness, but leg days... oh leg days... they beat me like no other.
  • 883xlsportster
    883xlsportster Posts: 221 Member
    _benjammin wrote: »
    Looking very young indeed. I'll be 43 years young at the end of month, been health conscious and exercising for nearly 4 years after doing nothing but getting unhealthy for 15 years.

    Thanks. I know what you mean. My diet was coffee & cigarettes for the last 10 years. Yikes!
  • 883xlsportster
    883xlsportster Posts: 221 Member
    psulemon wrote: »
    sijomial wrote: »
    pbryd wrote: »
    I'm in my early 40's and have started my own lean bulk. The only advice I can offer is something I heard from Mark Rippetoe, that volume is the main obstacle for the older lifter.

    That's interesting. Funny enough I seem to tolerate high volume very well despite being 56. I did 10 x 10 on holiday recently as I was very limited on weight/equipment in the hotel gym and apart from some DOMS recovery wasn't really an issue.

    I do have very good cardio fitness though so maybe that helps?

    What kills me is trying to go below 3RM, joints/tendons really don't appreciate it.
    I had the same concern early on. Has not been a problem thus far but I'm not PL. I am finding my push,leg,pull,rest & repeat split with hypertrophy progressive overload is not making me as sore. I still feel it in my triceps but everything else doesn't get the good post pump sore for a few days anymore. Wondering if thats a sign of overtraining or something else? Perhaps more reps and a change to a 5 day split?

    Muscle soreness isn't really an indication of training. And your body has probably adapted to the routine. But as long as you are increasing weight or reps, you are in a solid position.

    BTW, I rarely get upper body soreness, but leg days... oh leg days... they beat me like no other.

    Good to know. Keeping things as is for now. Thanks for the tip.
  • pbryd
    pbryd Posts: 364 Member
    Have you increased your calories as you gained weight to allow for the increase in TDEE?

    I've noticed for the last week, I'm feeling hungry more often and it's leading me think I need to increase my calories a little.
  • 883xlsportster
    883xlsportster Posts: 221 Member
    pbryd wrote: »
    Have you increased your calories as you gained weight to allow for the increase in TDEE?

    I've noticed for the last week, I'm feeling hungry more often and it's leading me think I need to increase my calories a little.

    Good question. All I've used thus far is the goal calculator here on MFP. I did update my weight via the report but not sure if that was updated for TDEE? Something I'll look at this weekend. I usually go over my daily cals so I have room. I get hungry too and not sure if required or just use to having food every 2 to 3 hours so now my belly is asking for more? Strange considering I could fast 6 or 7 hours daily without any hungry pains or desire to eat.
    This is what I have setup if it makes any sense. I'm still kind of new to this calorie counting.
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  • pbryd
    pbryd Posts: 364 Member
    I've been on 2600 daily for a while now, and while I have gained this month, progress is really slow.

    My thoughts are to wait until the start of April and bump the calories up a little for a few months and see how it affects my results.
  • pbryd
    pbryd Posts: 364 Member
    I thought I'd share this article about macros and age.

    In a nutshell, over 40's should take in more protein and fat with less carbs.

    Protein recommendations: 41-65 years old: 1.1-1.4g/lb bodyweight
    Carbohydrate recommendations: 41-65 years old: 1.2-2.2g/lb bodyweight
    Fat recommendations: 41-65 years old: 0.45-0.6g/lb bodyweight

    https://www.biolayne.com/articles/nutrition/anabolic-eating-for-your-age/
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    Thanks. I think women and men differ, as well as age and genetic makeup.
  • 883xlsportster
    883xlsportster Posts: 221 Member
    pbryd wrote: »
    I thought I'd share this article about macros and age.

    In a nutshell, over 40's should take in more protein and fat with less carbs.

    Protein recommendations: 41-65 years old: 1.1-1.4g/lb bodyweight
    Carbohydrate recommendations: 41-65 years old: 1.2-2.2g/lb bodyweight
    Fat recommendations: 41-65 years old: 0.45-0.6g/lb bodyweight

    https://www.biolayne.com/articles/nutrition/anabolic-eating-for-your-age/

    Thanks for the post. I tweaked my diet a few weeks ago. I did lower my carbs and the timing. My last carbs of the day are post workout which is usually around 5 PM. I've been doing a lot of core work with cardio sprints on the treadmill. I'm starting to get my belly bulk errr ..middle age spread ... errr core under control somewhat.
    Abs are under there somewhere ;-)


  • pbryd
    pbryd Posts: 364 Member
    What are your plans for the next few months. Carry on a lean bulk, maintain or cut?

    By the sounds of it a maintenance and some light cardio are what you're thinking.
  • 883xlsportster
    883xlsportster Posts: 221 Member
    pbryd wrote: »
    What are your plans for the next few months. Carry on a lean bulk, maintain or cut?

    By the sounds of it a maintenance and some light cardio are what you're thinking.

    Going for a slow, lean bulk like you. Would like to cut my bodyfat a little at the same time. Not sure if possible. Only time will tell. Week by week we go........

    Do you know your BF? I have a fancy digital scale but don't think it's very accurate for BF? Mine says 20%??
  • chrismwpcs
    chrismwpcs Posts: 35 Member
    BF callipers are the more accurate way of measuring body fat. You can do 3 point measuring or 5 point measuring depending on how accurate you are wanting. EBay sells them cheap.