Why would you not weight lift while losing weight?

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  • benevempress
    benevempress Posts: 136 Member
    edited April 2016
    I've been in the "don't want to" and "don't have time" group. I don't watch any TV or get on the computer while at home except to log recipes and meals on MFP. I don't have a social life because I don't have the free time. And for those who say I have to take time for me before I take care of my two special-needs children, that is easy if you have child care available, but I work days and my husband works midnights and there isn't money in the budget for babysitters. I can't pare out a solid 45 minutes or an hour for "me" without giving up more sleep. Several people said, where are my priorities? Sleep comes before fitness, because I've lived for years sleep deprived and it makes me weak and stressed physically, emotionally, and mentally. In that case, my job is at risk and I can't take care of my children and I'm a miserable witch. I'm not going back there.

    However, I've discovered that I can find 5-15 minutes a couple of times per day. I used to say I didn't have 10 minutes free to myself in the course of a day, but I found that I CAN get 10 minutes if I really want it. That is how I now get my walking in... 10 minutes at at time, mostly at work. Is that enough to be called "cardio"? Probably not, but if I'm getting 10-11,000 steps a day in 10 minute increments, that is a lot better than sitting for those 10 minute periods because at least I'm moving.

    Now I'm ready to take that same approach to strength training. Some, even in just a few minutes, has to be better than none. @SezxyStef or anyone else, if you can tell me what I can do with as little equipment as possible (ideally none so I could do it at work) in 5-10 minutes (a maximum of 15 minutes) at a time, I'll try it. I'm thinking maybe one exercise each time I can grab 10 minutes? I understand that like my walking, it would probably be better for me to do more but I've got to start with what I can manage right now. I want something that will improve my health and gradually improve my appearance, and any improvement is welcome. I don't expect fabulous changes quickly.

    Yesterday I checked out a book from the library on bodyweight exercises trying to find something I could do in my cubicle in 5 minutes or less, hoping I could squeeze in some exercise while at work. I've learned to read while I walk, so I'll try to glean some wisdom during this week's walks. :smile:
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    RWClary wrote: »
    eeejer wrote: »
    Personally, it is because I just plain do not have the time to lift weights. I don't have 2 hour blocks of time, 3 non-consecutive days each week. My schedule is way too tight with work and class. I intend to lift after I graduate with my current degree program, but I also hope to reach my goal weight by then.

    45 mins 3x a week. Everyone has time for that.

    Nope, because I also must drive 1 hr. round trip to get to the gym and back. I live in a rural area. If you knew my schedule, you might understand. I'm not going to argue with you, just adding my reason.

    ETA: I work FT (and it is a busy time of year right now), I'm a FT grad student, and I am politically active (I am a party official). I intend to start lifting after graduating (Oct.) and after the election (Nov.).

    When fitness becomes a priority, suddenly we have time.
    The last guy I knew personally who did not have time watched 3 hours of TV every night while he played games on the computer. If something becomes important, you make the time.
    It takes 90 seconds to knock out a set of push ups once every day...and an additional 2 minutes to perform sit ups.
    5 minutes of jumping jacks and 2 more minutes of curling a chair in your office.
    I've done all these things when my time was limited. Why?
    Fitness is a priority.
    csck9h9xsyu1.jpg

    Sure, but that isn't what we are talking about. The question was lifting weights, and I don't have time to do that, partly because of where said weights are located. I didn't say I don't have 5 min. to do push-ups, but push-ups are not weights.

    but it is another form of resistance training...body weight training can be very effective "weight training" routine...that is all my son does is body weight and he is very very strong....has gone from 1 chin up to 7 in a matter of months.

    So you are saying I have time to go to the gym and lift weights 3 times weekly? If yes, then where exactly in my schedule do you see 2 hour blocks on 3 non-consecutive days? If not, then my original point remains.

    She is saying you have time to do bodyweight exercises at home. When you do pushups, you ARE lifting weight - your bodyweight.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    There are very discouraging people around this site who say things like "you won't gain muscle in a calorie deficit."

    I don't see that as discouraging. Pretty much nobody says "don't bother lifting because..." It's to keep people's expectations of lifting in line and to squash the idea that someone who thinks they're in a deficit is gaining weight because of muscle gains.

    I DO see it as discouraging. We lift to build muscle, right? If someone is telling me that I can't build muscle while I'm at a calorie deficit, it makes me think that I might as well skip the weight lifting until I'm at maintenance calories.

    Another reason to lift is to preserve muscle that would otherwise be lost while losing weight. It's easier to preserve muscle than to add it later.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    RWClary wrote: »
    eeejer wrote: »
    Personally, it is because I just plain do not have the time to lift weights. I don't have 2 hour blocks of time, 3 non-consecutive days each week. My schedule is way too tight with work and class. I intend to lift after I graduate with my current degree program, but I also hope to reach my goal weight by then.

    45 mins 3x a week. Everyone has time for that.

    Nope, because I also must drive 1 hr. round trip to get to the gym and back. I live in a rural area. If you knew my schedule, you might understand. I'm not going to argue with you, just adding my reason.

    ETA: I work FT (and it is a busy time of year right now), I'm a FT grad student, and I am politically active (I am a party official). I intend to start lifting after graduating (Oct.) and after the election (Nov.).

    When fitness becomes a priority, suddenly we have time.
    The last guy I knew personally who did not have time watched 3 hours of TV every night while he played games on the computer. If something becomes important, you make the time.
    It takes 90 seconds to knock out a set of push ups once every day...and an additional 2 minutes to perform sit ups.
    5 minutes of jumping jacks and 2 more minutes of curling a chair in your office.
    I've done all these things when my time was limited. Why?
    Fitness is a priority.
    csck9h9xsyu1.jpg

    Sure, but that isn't what we are talking about. The question was lifting weights, and I don't have time to do that, partly because of where said weights are located. I didn't say I don't have 5 min. to do push-ups, but push-ups are not weights.

    but it is another form of resistance training...body weight training can be very effective "weight training" routine...that is all my son does is body weight and he is very very strong....has gone from 1 chin up to 7 in a matter of months.

    So you are saying I have time to go to the gym and lift weights 3 times weekly? If yes, then where exactly in my schedule do you see 2 hour blocks on 3 non-consecutive days? If not, then my original point remains.

    I am saying if it's a priority you make the time.

    I don't lift at a gym...I lift at home. I made it a priority and set aside the space and funds to get setup (and it is a cheap setup) but effective.

    and why is it 2 hours? I lift for max 15mins a day 4x a week....I can bench my body weight, dead lift 235lbs and squat 210...OHP 100lbs...as a woman those are good numbers...no one has ever said you have to spend hours in the gym to reap the benefits of resistance training...

    Or the alternative

    Body weight resistance in your home which can take as much time as you want...as mentioned my son does that in his apartment...massive strength gains going on.

    but hey if you don't want to block out 15 or 20 mins a day to get stronger don't...your loss.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    I've been in the "don't want to" and "don't have time" group. I can't pare out a solid 45 minutes or an hour for "me" without giving up more sleep. As several people said, where are my priorities? Sleep comes before fitness, because I've lived for years sleep deprived and it makes me weak and stressed physically, emotionally, and mentally.

    However, I've discovered that I can find 5-15 minutes a couple of times per day. I used to say I didn't have 10 minutes free to myself in the course of a day, but I found that I CAN get 10 minutes if I really want it. That is how I now get my walking in... 10 minutes at at time. Is that enough to be called "cardio"? Probably not, but if I'm getting 10-11,000 steps a day in 10 minute increments, that is a lot better than sitting for those 10 minute periods because at least I'm moving.

    Now I'm ready to take that same approach to strength training. Some, even in just a few minutes, has to be better than none. @SezxyStef or anyone else, if you can tell me what I can do with as little equipment as possible (ideally none so I could do it at work) in 5-10 minutes (a maximum of 15 minutes) at a time, I'll try it. I'm thinking maybe one exercise each time I can grab 10 minutes? I understand that like my walking, it would probably be better for me to do more but I've got to start with what I can manage right now. I want something that will improve my health and gradually improve my appearance, and any improvement is welcome. I don't expect fabulous changes quickly.

    Yesterday I checked out a book from the library on bodyweight exercises trying to find something I could do in my cubicle in 5 minutes or less, hoping I could squeeze in some exercise while at work. I've learned to read while I walk, so I'll try to glean some wisdom during this week's walks. :smile:

    Google I am my own gym, ice cream fitness or convict conditioning.

    Or set aside time to do push ups and chin ups lunges etc. Even with smaller hand weights.

    My chin up bar is a big dowel screwed into the rafters of my basement with big rings...(Im cheap)

    fitnessblender.com has a great set of "strength training" routines that require no equipment

    You can buy inexpensive chinup bars that go in door frames at walmart or small handweights or kettle balls to add more resistance when they get to easy bands even.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    There are very discouraging people around this site who say things like "you won't gain muscle in a calorie deficit."

    I don't see that as discouraging. Pretty much nobody says "don't bother lifting because..." It's to keep people's expectations of lifting in line and to squash the idea that someone who thinks they're in a deficit is gaining weight because of muscle gains.

    I DO see it as discouraging. We lift to build muscle, right? If someone is telling me that I can't build muscle while I'm at a calorie deficit, it makes me think that I might as well skip the weight lifting until I'm at maintenance calories.

    Some lift to build strength, not just muscle. Plenty of strength can be built while on a deficit.

    Yes, I decided to start lifting to help retain muscle (if you are obese you likely have a good amount of muscle for someone at your goal weight, after all), and even more because I wanted to be stronger. I didn't gain muscle while losing, but I did gain lots of strength and a fun (for me) hobby.
  • coreyreichle
    coreyreichle Posts: 1,031 Member
    My reason was a time reason, coupled with prioritization.

    My time was limited to about 1 hour a day. My priority put weight loss first, over retention of muscle mass. Now, that I've met goal weight, I can re-prioritize, in addition to adding time to my exercise plan, which allows me to do both.
  • serenityfrye
    serenityfrye Posts: 360 Member
    It Could also be a health thing. For me, when my diet isn't prefect I get arthritis that makes lifting painful. Others might have underlying weight related conditions in similar vein that require them to lose some weight or heal first before they're able to do much in the way of resistance training.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Probably not many people are thinking about old age, but I am, as my OH's mother is currently in rehab because she falls when she tries to go to the bathroom at night. She has very little strength in her legs. This MFP blog post came in my inbox this AM:

    http://blog.myfitnesspal.com/whats-important-weight-loss-counting-calories-exercise/

    ...2. Building strength

    Strength training is the best form of exercise you can do, no matter your age or whether you are trying to lose weight. I know that not everyone loves the weight room. But the return on investment — denser bones, stronger ligaments and tendons, better posture and, most importantly in this context, more muscle to burn calorie — is incredible.

    Your strength has a direct effect on how you interact with your environment. The stronger you are, the easier daily tasks become, such as climbing the stairs, carrying a full laundry basket and raking leaves. Strength train for the future: Preserving muscle for your 50s and beyond will help delay the need for assistance with everyday activities. Did you know that many people who have to check in to assisted living homes do so because they are unable to get off the toilet, open a door or dress themselves? Muscle is what keeps us moving, and it needs to be fed a steady diet of weight training. An optimal, efficient way to strength train: Complete compound exercises like squats, shoulder presses and deadlifts two to three days a week.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    My reason was a time reason, coupled with prioritization.

    My time was limited to about 1 hour a day. My priority put weight loss first, over retention of muscle mass. Now, that I've met goal weight, I can re-prioritize, in addition to adding time to my exercise plan, which allows me to do both.

    which is your choice...my thing is and always has been this...it is easier to maintain the muscle I have then have to rebuild it later....which is a lot of time and dedication which imho is not worth it if I can maintain it in the first place.

  • alvinlau316
    alvinlau316 Posts: 4 Member
    Lift weights. I will never understand why people automatically default to lots of cardio when losing weight. Let's just say marathon runners are not the epitome of a great physique.

    Resistance training allows you to build and retain lean mass. Unless you're on drugs you won't be bulky. If you're bulky it means you're not losing fat, or getting fatter.
  • quiarga
    quiarga Posts: 408 Member
    Personally, it is because I just plain do not have the time to lift weights. I don't have 2 hour blocks of time, 3 non-consecutive days each week. My schedule is way too tight with work and class. I intend to lift after I graduate with my current degree program, but I also hope to reach my goal weight by then.

    It doesn't take hours a day, but yes non-consecutive days are important. I'm doing Stronglifts 5x5 and usually about 40-45 minutes M/W/F.
  • quiarga
    quiarga Posts: 408 Member
    maxit wrote: »
    I agree with jemh, but in answer to the thread's question - sometimes people feel too fat and clumsy and self conscious to lift weight. Many, having endured scathing comments about their weight, don't want to go to a weight room with all those mirrors and lifters, and don't have the ability to lift at home, or don't feel secure enough about using body weight exercises, or don't have a clue about how to get started. It's easy for some to own their own space and "just do it," and incredibly difficult for others.

    Just sounds like a lot of excuses. If you want to do it, you'll make the effort. Same with weight-loss. You have to want it more than you want to be fat. (I'm not saying you as in you personally...just in general. I give myself the same advice). Everybody has to start somewhere, whether its their weight-loss journey, cardio, or lifting.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    quiarga wrote: »
    Personally, it is because I just plain do not have the time to lift weights. I don't have 2 hour blocks of time, 3 non-consecutive days each week. My schedule is way too tight with work and class. I intend to lift after I graduate with my current degree program, but I also hope to reach my goal weight by then.

    It doesn't take hours a day, but yes non-consecutive days are important. I'm doing Stronglifts 5x5 and usually about 40-45 minutes M/W/F.

    Depends on the program...I do Wendler 5/3/1 M/T/W/Th...OHP, DL, BP, SQ...but no two major muscle groups are worked 2 days in a row unless I am pressed for time and do squats with BP.

    5x5 does take about 45min near the end for me it was 90mins which was way tooooo long...switched to 3x5 and then wendler which is amazing for time.
  • quiarga
    quiarga Posts: 408 Member
    A few months ago I started Stronglifts 5x5. I think it's the single best thing I've done for myself this year. My only regret is not starting sooner. I will always recommend lifting over cardio now. Cardio won't build or tone muscle, and only gives you more calories to consume each day. Lifting will change your body! And that doesn't mean bulking.
  • Scandinavianblonde
    Scandinavianblonde Posts: 22 Member
    I'm a runner.. When I'm in my best shape I'm much smaller and much lower bf than all the weight lifters I know.. It doesn't make sense for my training or my body type ( rail) to be lifting weights heavily that often.. I do mostly circuit exercises which use the same muscle groups as certain weight machines. I prefer looking the way I do rather than bulking up ! And yes all the body builders I know are " built" and it definitely looks much different than my body
  • MissTattoo
    MissTattoo Posts: 1,203 Member
    maxit wrote: »
    I agree with jemh, but in answer to the thread's question - sometimes people feel too fat and clumsy and self conscious to lift weight. Many, having endured scathing comments about their weight, don't want to go to a weight room with all those mirrors and lifters, and don't have the ability to lift at home, or don't feel secure enough about using body weight exercises, or don't have a clue about how to get started. It's easy for some to own their own space and "just do it," and incredibly difficult for others.

    This is me. I'm doing cardio right now. I'm too much of a chicken to venture into the weight area. Everyone looks like they know what they are doing. I think I'm going to break into the machine circuit and go from there.
  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
    Lift weights. Lift heavy. Strength training - I think the problem is what this terminology conjures up in the mind of some people which can put them off. The "scary" part of the gym. Complex barbell moves. Lengthy sessions. Possible injury. Social judgment.

    In reality, 2- 3 sessions of resistance training a week using whatever form of resistance you prefer (barbells, body weight, kettlebells, young children), lasting about 20-30 minutes each depending on exercise selection in the venue you prefer (the gym, your front room, the garden, the park, the bus stop) which pushes your capabilities progressively would be more than sufficient for the average person to get major benefits...
  • californiagirl2012
    californiagirl2012 Posts: 2,625 Member
    Some mention here that some are intimidated by the free weight section. But when people lift while losing they are so much healthier, and LOOK healthier and more vibrant when they lift. It's especially empowering for women in all aspects of their lives once they give it a go. Nothing wrong with a little cardio. If you focus on protein and veggies, and just enough carbs and fat and the calorie deficit takes care of fat loss. The lifting is building the lean body mass and it's a beautiful thing for everyone, not bulky for women (that is always the fat that causes that, especially fat + muscle).

    Resistance training is what wards off osteoporosis for men and woman. Don't skip it! The time is now!
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    msf74 wrote: »
    Lift weights. Lift heavy. Strength training - I think the problem is what this terminology conjures up in the mind of some people which can put them off. The "scary" part of the gym. Complex barbell moves. Lengthy sessions. Possible injury. Social judgment.

    In reality, 2- 3 sessions of resistance training a week using whatever form of resistance you prefer (barbells, body weight, kettlebells, young children), lasting about 20-30 minutes each depending on exercise selection in the venue you prefer (the gym, your front room, the garden, the park, the bus stop) which pushes your capabilities progressively would be more than sufficient for the average person to get major benefits...

    Agreed. Resistance exercise can be any and all of the above. I started out with a very simple bodyweight routine. It's what fit my resources and ability at the time. I later moved on to a longer bodyweight routine and eventually lifting weights. Not everybody has to lift weights though.

    And if you do want to lift weights, don't get scared by the phrase "lift heavy." Heavy is relative to your ability. When you first start you're going to lift what is heavy for you. That might be a 10 pound dumbbell and that is perfectly okay. The goal is progressive resistance, which means that you might lift that 10 pound dumbbell 8 times today and two days from now you'll lift it 10 times or 12 times. Then you can graduate to the 12.5 pound dumbbell. The progression is the short term goal.
  • T1DCarnivoreRunner
    T1DCarnivoreRunner Posts: 11,502 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    RWClary wrote: »
    eeejer wrote: »
    Personally, it is because I just plain do not have the time to lift weights. I don't have 2 hour blocks of time, 3 non-consecutive days each week. My schedule is way too tight with work and class. I intend to lift after I graduate with my current degree program, but I also hope to reach my goal weight by then.

    45 mins 3x a week. Everyone has time for that.

    Nope, because I also must drive 1 hr. round trip to get to the gym and back. I live in a rural area. If you knew my schedule, you might understand. I'm not going to argue with you, just adding my reason.

    ETA: I work FT (and it is a busy time of year right now), I'm a FT grad student, and I am politically active (I am a party official). I intend to start lifting after graduating (Oct.) and after the election (Nov.).

    When fitness becomes a priority, suddenly we have time.
    The last guy I knew personally who did not have time watched 3 hours of TV every night while he played games on the computer. If something becomes important, you make the time.
    It takes 90 seconds to knock out a set of push ups once every day...and an additional 2 minutes to perform sit ups.
    5 minutes of jumping jacks and 2 more minutes of curling a chair in your office.
    I've done all these things when my time was limited. Why?
    Fitness is a priority.
    csck9h9xsyu1.jpg

    Sure, but that isn't what we are talking about. The question was lifting weights, and I don't have time to do that, partly because of where said weights are located. I didn't say I don't have 5 min. to do push-ups, but push-ups are not weights.

    but it is another form of resistance training...body weight training can be very effective "weight training" routine...that is all my son does is body weight and he is very very strong....has gone from 1 chin up to 7 in a matter of months.

    So you are saying I have time to go to the gym and lift weights 3 times weekly? If yes, then where exactly in my schedule do you see 2 hour blocks on 3 non-consecutive days? If not, then my original point remains.

    I am saying if it's a priority you make the time.

    I don't lift at a gym...I lift at home. I made it a priority and set aside the space and funds to get setup (and it is a cheap setup) but effective.

    and why is it 2 hours? I lift for max 15mins a day 4x a week....I can bench my body weight, dead lift 235lbs and squat 210...OHP 100lbs...as a woman those are good numbers...no one has ever said you have to spend hours in the gym to reap the benefits of resistance training...

    Or the alternative

    Body weight resistance in your home which can take as much time as you want...as mentioned my son does that in his apartment...massive strength gains going on.

    but hey if you don't want to block out 15 or 20 mins a day to get stronger don't...your loss.
    quiarga wrote: »
    Personally, it is because I just plain do not have the time to lift weights. I don't have 2 hour blocks of time, 3 non-consecutive days each week. My schedule is way too tight with work and class. I intend to lift after I graduate with my current degree program, but I also hope to reach my goal weight by then.

    It doesn't take hours a day, but yes non-consecutive days are important. I'm doing Stronglifts 5x5 and usually about 40-45 minutes M/W/F.

    As explained earlier, it takes 2 hours because it takes 1 hr. to drive (round trip) to the gym and 1 hr. to lift. Honestly, it takes more than 1 hr. to lift normally, when I actually do. But that also includes some time on the treadmill to get my heart rate elevated first. I don't have space in my small duplex for that, nor can I justify the cost for something that I can't fit anyway, when I have a gym membership.

    Also, since I can tell you didn't read my original post that you are arguing with, I DO intend to lift when I actually have time (after Nov.). Right now, I just plain don't have time and I'm frankly getting annoyed at those of you who want to argue about that as though you understand my circumstances better than I do.
  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
    edited April 2016
    jemhh wrote: »
    msf74 wrote: »
    Lift weights. Lift heavy. Strength training - I think the problem is what this terminology conjures up in the mind of some people which can put them off. The "scary" part of the gym. Complex barbell moves. Lengthy sessions. Possible injury. Social judgment.

    In reality, 2- 3 sessions of resistance training a week using whatever form of resistance you prefer (barbells, body weight, kettlebells, young children), lasting about 20-30 minutes each depending on exercise selection in the venue you prefer (the gym, your front room, the garden, the park, the bus stop) which pushes your capabilities progressively would be more than sufficient for the average person to get major benefits...

    Agreed. Resistance exercise can be any and all of the above. I started out with a very simple bodyweight routine. It's what fit my resources and ability at the time. I later moved on to a longer bodyweight routine and eventually lifting weights. Not everybody has to lift weights though.

    And if you do want to lift weights, don't get scared by the phrase "lift heavy." Heavy is relative to your ability. When you first start you're going to lift what is heavy for you. That might be a 10 pound dumbbell and that is perfectly okay. The goal is progressive resistance, which means that you might lift that 10 pound dumbbell 8 times today and two days from now you'll lift it 10 times or 12 times. Then you can graduate to the 12.5 pound dumbbell. The progression is the short term goal.

    Exactly.

    I think one of the main issues is irrational fear due to lack of clear information compounded by a fitness "industry" which is becoming just as stupid as the diet industry. "Go hard or go home"? If you like but you don't have to...

    Can you sit down in a chair and stand up without using the handles? Then you've done a squat. A person probably does many moves quite naturally during the day which are found in common resistance training routines but put a weight in their hands and it suddenly becomes scary due to unconscious associations.

  • kaneporterhome
    kaneporterhome Posts: 3 Member
    I do HiT(burst) only 3 times a week for 20-25 mins(sometimes 4 if i have time). The important thing is to do something. Sometimes you need to be as low as you can be in yourself, to say ok now is the time to change. Then you do it, like i did. Make it a routine and thats how it goes, wake, gym, prepare food, go to work. HiT for me is the best thing i done.

    Having read paper studies on HiT(especially the body adaptation one, where they had runners vs sprinters, with 3x45min sessions vs sprinter 3x15mins sessions, after 6 weeks runners using 6,000kcals vs sprinter 1500kcals, they were checked and found not 1 oz of Body fat loss in runners, in fact the runners lost 2lbs of muscle weight, sprinters lost 4.4lbs of Fat) this proved the theory that the body adapts itself to the physical activity, the body needed less weight to perform running, so lost it where it could, where as the sprinters need to keep muscle, however they don't spend long enough time wise in Fat burning, unlike the runner who do. Remember, if you burn sugars before you burn fat after, and fat before, sugars after. Don't believe me look it up.

    Since i started from 0-12 days i lost 14lbs of Fat, gained 3lbs of muscle, and lost 4% body weight. I am continuing now on this strategy. I have dropped my carbs low, am in ketosis, and lift the same if not more than i did in carb heavy diet. Remember there are 2 alternative sources of fuel in the body, one when carbs high, one when carbs low. The choice is yours which to use.

    The benefit for carb low, is i am using stored fats as energy, not my carbs, i dont get the urge for chocolate or sweets or crap food, which makes gym and diet quite a simple thing.

    But...its down to you if you go or don't go to the gym, which exercise you do, as long as you do something now to start. I just wish i had found the carbs change and routine yrs ago.
  • MommyMeggo
    MommyMeggo Posts: 1,222 Member
    When I saw the changes in a friend of mine I wanted to try it.
    Having never been active with a lifetime of asthma <therefore no cardio other than walking + I hate it) and having never lifted anything heavier than my toddlers or the end of a couch---when I did my first 45lb back squat- I was hooked. <3<3<3
    I am still perfecting- will always be perfecting.
    I lost more inches than pounds in the 1st 6 weeks.

    WHY dont people want to lift? - tons of reasons - take your pick, obviously, after 4 pages.

  • galgenstrick
    galgenstrick Posts: 2,086 Member
    I lift, and rarely do "cardio" since I like to hike on the weekends. I have an elliptical that I'll use occasionally if the weather is poor, but otherwise weights are more fun.
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,148 Member
    Some mention here that some are intimidated by the free weight section. But when people lift while losing they are so much healthier, and LOOK healthier and more vibrant when they lift. It's especially empowering for women in all aspects of their lives once they give it a go. Nothing wrong with a little cardio. If you focus on protein and veggies, and just enough carbs and fat and the calorie deficit takes care of fat loss. The lifting is building the lean body mass and it's a beautiful thing for everyone, not bulky for women (that is always the fat that causes that, especially fat + muscle).

    Resistance training is what wards off osteoporosis for men and woman. Don't skip it! The time is now!

    Thanks for telling me I'm unhealthy because I don't lift. I'll be sure to tell my GP your diagnosis.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    zyxst wrote: »
    Some mention here that some are intimidated by the free weight section. But when people lift while losing they are so much healthier, and LOOK healthier and more vibrant when they lift. It's especially empowering for women in all aspects of their lives once they give it a go. Nothing wrong with a little cardio. If you focus on protein and veggies, and just enough carbs and fat and the calorie deficit takes care of fat loss. The lifting is building the lean body mass and it's a beautiful thing for everyone, not bulky for women (that is always the fat that causes that, especially fat + muscle).

    Resistance training is what wards off osteoporosis for men and woman. Don't skip it! The time is now!

    Thanks for telling me I'm unhealthy because I don't lift. I'll be sure to tell my GP your diagnosis.

    That's kind of a stretch. Plus you said on page two that you do body weight.
  • RWClary
    RWClary Posts: 192 Member
    RWClary wrote: »
    eeejer wrote: »
    Personally, it is because I just plain do not have the time to lift weights. I don't have 2 hour blocks of time, 3 non-consecutive days each week. My schedule is way too tight with work and class. I intend to lift after I graduate with my current degree program, but I also hope to reach my goal weight by then.

    45 mins 3x a week. Everyone has time for that.

    Nope, because I also must drive 1 hr. round trip to get to the gym and back. I live in a rural area. If you knew my schedule, you might understand. I'm not going to argue with you, just adding my reason.

    ETA: I work FT (and it is a busy time of year right now), I'm a FT grad student, and I am politically active (I am a party official). I intend to start lifting after graduating (Oct.) and after the election (Nov.).

    When fitness becomes a priority, suddenly we have time.
    The last guy I knew personally who did not have time watched 3 hours of TV every night while he played games on the computer. If something becomes important, you make the time.
    It takes 90 seconds to knock out a set of push ups once every day...and an additional 2 minutes to perform sit ups.
    5 minutes of jumping jacks and 2 more minutes of curling a chair in your office.
    I've done all these things when my time was limited. Why?
    Fitness is a priority.
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    Sure, but that isn't what we are talking about. The question was lifting weights, and I don't have time to do that, partly because of where said weights are located. I didn't say I don't have 5 min. to do push-ups, but push-ups are not weights.

    That's great brother!
    And good luck with your political/school stuff. Those things are important too.
    Life is about balance.
  • MommyMeggo
    MommyMeggo Posts: 1,222 Member
    edited April 2016
    zyxst wrote: »
    Some mention here that some are intimidated by the free weight section. But when people lift while losing they are so much healthier, and LOOK healthier and more vibrant when they lift. It's especially empowering for women in all aspects of their lives once they give it a go. Nothing wrong with a little cardio. If you focus on protein and veggies, and just enough carbs and fat and the calorie deficit takes care of fat loss. The lifting is building the lean body mass and it's a beautiful thing for everyone, not bulky for women (that is always the fat that causes that, especially fat + muscle).

    Resistance training is what wards off osteoporosis for men and woman. Don't skip it! The time is now!

    Thanks for telling me I'm unhealthy because I don't lift. I'll be sure to tell my GP your diagnosis.

    ...maybe if it said "But when people lift while losing they are so much healthier than those who dont lift."

    People who lift are so much healthier...
    People who eat fiber are so much healthier...
    People who run are so much healthier...

    I didnt see a comparison in my examples nor in the post that you claim insulted you.. just my unsolicited 2cents. :)
  • brb_2013
    brb_2013 Posts: 1,197 Member
    Yes you're right it's helpful to do them simultaneously.

    I'll tell you Why I don't really lift, because I can only afford up to 15lb dumbells and can't afford a gym with bigger equipment and I surely won't go to a gym at my size. Maybe I will have more gym confidence when I'm smaller and make it fit my budget but for now the 15lb weights feel like a waste of time since they're hardly a challenge.

    Im continually upping the resistance on my elliptical to push those muscles harder, and I do some planks but that's about it. Maybe for now it's just more simple to focus on what I know I can do well, rather than add the complications of learning something new also.