trying to lose weight but have hypoglycemia?
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Eat more frequently, just smaller amounts. This is what helped me. Also, eat a lot of protein and possibly less carbs.0
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For what it's worth, eating a lot of beans/lentils seem to help too. Steel cut oats are fine but quick oats are not (for me). And increasing fat helps. I usually end up around 120-140g of carbs a day (all from veggies/grains, pretty much).
Yeah it's pretty much refined sugars/flours that seem to be the culprit for me.
Yes, I've noticed I do feel great when i eat lentils (probably because they are so high in protein) and feel terrible after eating anything with simple carbs or thats flour-y or sugar-y. I will stick to a low- refined sugar- and- flour diet from now on!
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HappyAnna2014 wrote: »I find that if I don't eat simple sugars, or at least minimize them, I don't have hypoglycemia problems.
This. I have all the symptoms of hypoglycemia the week before my period and it's the only thing that helped get rid of them. If I have them after dinner though, it's usually fine. But if I start my day with even a slice of bread for breakfast, the day is shot.
Ya - I'm the same way - I feel better when I avoid certain foods during the day, but I can have them with or after dinner.
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kshama2001 wrote: »HappyAnna2014 wrote: »I find that if I don't eat simple sugars, or at least minimize them, I don't have hypoglycemia problems.
This. I have all the symptoms of hypoglycemia the week before my period and it's the only thing that helped get rid of them. If I have them after dinner though, it's usually fine. But if I start my day with even a slice of bread for breakfast, the day is shot.
Ya - I'm the same way - I feel better when I avoid certain foods during the day, but I can have them with or after dinner.
I always thought I was the only one with that problem! Interesting to see that other people have experienced similar effects of the hypoglycemia.0 -
xxgabriellaxxchanelxx wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »HappyAnna2014 wrote: »I find that if I don't eat simple sugars, or at least minimize them, I don't have hypoglycemia problems.
This. I have all the symptoms of hypoglycemia the week before my period and it's the only thing that helped get rid of them. If I have them after dinner though, it's usually fine. But if I start my day with even a slice of bread for breakfast, the day is shot.
Ya - I'm the same way - I feel better when I avoid certain foods during the day, but I can have them with or after dinner.
I always thought I was the only one with that problem! Interesting to see that other people have experienced similar effects of the hypoglycemia.
Took me over a year to figure out what the problem was too. Talk about frustrating.. but at least it's only a week per month...0 -
I was misdiagnosed as having it by my primary doctor but during that time I went to a nutritionist to learn how to eat until I was able to get in to see an Endocrinologist. I remember her saying to eat 6 times a day. She gave me a break down, such as "1 protein, 2 carbs, 1-2 fats, 1 fruit, 1 vegetable" and so on. Of course each meal was different. It was the pairing of foods that was important and was simple to follow. Your protein, fat and fiber play an important role. Drink water, stay away from caffeine, eat whole grain/wheat, 30g fiber per day, stay away from sugar alcohols. That is all I can remember. I ended up meeting with the Endocrinologist almost 2 months later only to find out that I didn't have it.
My suggestion for you is to meet with a specialist. You will learn a lot that will benefit you and keep you healthy. They may want you to maintain weight until you get the eating and food pairing down correctly to see how your body reacts to a new diet. Health comes first in my book but if you must continue weight loss, then I would suggest a much slower weight loss and keep you body fueled. Good luck to you!0 -
I was misdiagnosed as having it by my primary doctor but during that time I went to a nutritionist to learn how to eat until I was able to get in to see an Endocrinologist. I remember her saying to eat 6 times a day. She gave me a break down, such as "1 protein, 2 carbs, 1-2 fats, 1 fruit, 1 vegetable" and so on. Of course each meal was different. It was the pairing of foods that was important and was simple to follow. Your protein, fat and fiber play an important role. Drink water, stay away from caffeine, eat whole grain/wheat, 30g fiber per day, stay away from sugar alcohols. That is all I can remember. I ended up meeting with the Endocrinologist almost 2 months later only to find out that I didn't have it.
My suggestion for you is to meet with a specialist. You will learn a lot that will benefit you and keep you healthy. They may want you to maintain weight until you get the eating and food pairing down correctly to see how your body reacts to a new diet. Health comes first in my book but if you must continue weight loss, then I would suggest a much slower weight loss and keep you body fueled. Good luck to you!
Good idea! I'm now considering meeting with a specialist. Also, I noticed that sugar alcohols were on the list of foods to stay away from that you mentioned. I've been eating A TON of food with sugar alcohol in it because i've been avoiding regular sugar. That may be a huge part of my problem. Thank you very much for your advice! Much appreciated 0 -
xxgabriellaxxchanelxx wrote: »I was misdiagnosed as having it by my primary doctor but during that time I went to a nutritionist to learn how to eat until I was able to get in to see an Endocrinologist. I remember her saying to eat 6 times a day. She gave me a break down, such as "1 protein, 2 carbs, 1-2 fats, 1 fruit, 1 vegetable" and so on. Of course each meal was different. It was the pairing of foods that was important and was simple to follow. Your protein, fat and fiber play an important role. Drink water, stay away from caffeine, eat whole grain/wheat, 30g fiber per day, stay away from sugar alcohols. That is all I can remember. I ended up meeting with the Endocrinologist almost 2 months later only to find out that I didn't have it.
My suggestion for you is to meet with a specialist. You will learn a lot that will benefit you and keep you healthy. They may want you to maintain weight until you get the eating and food pairing down correctly to see how your body reacts to a new diet. Health comes first in my book but if you must continue weight loss, then I would suggest a much slower weight loss and keep you body fueled. Good luck to you!
Good idea! I'm now considering meeting with a specialist. Also, I noticed that sugar alcohols were on the list of foods to stay away from that you mentioned. I've been eating A TON of food with sugar alcohol in it because i've been avoiding regular sugar. That may be a huge part of my problem. Thank you very much for your advice! Much appreciated
Artificial sweeteners trigger me too, apart from Stevia.0 -
xxgabriellaxxchanelxx wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »xxgabriellaxxchanelxx wrote: »
At 5'4 and 122 pounds you shouldn't be trying to lose more than 0.5 pounds per week. Enjoy those extra calories!
How old are you and what's your goal weight?
I'm 18 and my goal weight is 99. Yes, I know that sounds low. But I have very small bone structure and last time I weighed 99 I looked and felt my best (and the doctor said that was an okay weight for me).
The dr told you that you can eat less than 1300 calories a day at your age and aim to become underweight, while you feel ill from eating too little?1 -
gebeziseva wrote: »I'm not a doctor but as far as I'm aware hypoglycaemia is a symptom rather than an illness on its own. Your sugar can fall for some reason but not be low in general unless you are diabetic or have other conditions which can cause it to fall on certain occasions.
Are you sure you got hypoglycaemic attack and not an anxiety attack?
You are exactly correct! Hypoglycemia is a step toward diabetes. It occurs when one eats too many carbs and their blood sugar goes out of whack. When my doctor told me I was borderline hypoglycemic, I thought that was a good thing. I said, "cool, isn't that the opposite of diabetes?" He said, no, it's a step towards diabetes, GET OFF THE CARBS! Needless to say, I took his advice. Days I wake up and feel like I am going to throw up if I don't eat something quick, I know that the previous day I had too many carbs or too much aspartame. Aspartame causes hypoglycemia and worsens diabetes.0 -
EMERALDberry wrote: »gebeziseva wrote: »I'm not a doctor but as far as I'm aware hypoglycaemia is a symptom rather than an illness on its own. Your sugar can fall for some reason but not be low in general unless you are diabetic or have other conditions which can cause it to fall on certain occasions.
Are you sure you got hypoglycaemic attack and not an anxiety attack?
You are exactly correct! Hypoglycemia is a step toward diabetes. It occurs when one eats too many carbs and their blood sugar goes out of whack. When my doctor told me I was borderline hypoglycemic, I thought that was a good thing. I said, "cool, isn't that the opposite of diabetes?" He said, no, it's a step towards diabetes, GET OFF THE CARBS! Needless to say, I took his advice. Days I wake up and feel like I am going to throw up if I don't eat something quick, I know that the previous day I had too many carbs or too much aspartame. Aspartame causes hypoglycemia and worsens diabetes.
No, chronic hypoglycemia is a real medical concern that some non-diabetics have. Most commonly, it is reactive hypoglycemia - these people have over-production of insulin in response to BG spikes. It is not a cause of diabetes, nor is it an indicator that one is developing diabetes. In fact, there is more than one "type" of diabetes (they are different diseases entirely) and chronic hypoglycemia is not a symptom of any of them.
As to aspartame causing hypoglycemia and "worsening" diabetes, you must have been reading some of the junk pages. Neither is true. Again, it doesn't worsen any of the many types of diabetes. It also does not cause hypoglycemia. That is something you might see from someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. Usually the explanation is that our pancreas releases insulin in response to taste buds, and so when we taste something sweet, we release insulin. That isn't true - insulin response does not take cues from taste buds, but from BG. If your BG is high, you release insulin regardless of what you ate. This is how it works for non-diabetics, of course.2 -
midwest, not sure where YOU get your info from, but mine is straight from the medical community. I think I'll stay with my knowledge.0
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EMERALDberry wrote: »midwest, not sure where YOU get your info from, but mine is straight from the medical community. I think I'll stay with my knowledge.
Can you cite some peer-reviewed journal articles? I read them regularly, I live with type 1 diabetes and type 2 diabetes, and by age 10 had received more training on type 1 diabetes (I didn't have type 2 until a few years later) than most physicians. Since then, I've continued to learn about all forms and issues related to diabetes, including some related to diabetes (including hypoglycemia).
Here's a simple explanation: If aspartame decreased BG, most who consumed aspartame would require medical attention and it would not be on the market. Aspartame is one of the most researched food ingredients in the U.S. (actually, it may be #1) with more than 100 studies completed. The two that show aspartame is harmful have been discredited because the researcher tampered with the studies and when they still didn't give her the negative results she was hoping for, she falsely reported the data and came to a conclusion that didn't fit the real data collected. I'll be interested to see if her articles are what you cite in support of this explanation.
Frankly, I don't care what you do for your own health. But for the benefit of others reading this thread, I won't allow you to post something to blatantly wrong unchecked.2 -
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx Here's 1 link. And by the way, midwest, you are NOT an expert, nor am I. It's like those who still believe that eating eggs worsens cholesterol and because of new studies there are those who do not believe this. You believe what you want to and I'll believe what I want to and you CANNOT prove that the info I know is false.0
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EMERALDberry wrote: »http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx Here's 1 link. And by the way, midwest, you are NOT an expert, nor am I. It's like those who still believe that eating eggs worsens cholesterol and because of new studies there are those who do not believe this. You believe what you want to and I'll believe what I want to and you CANNOT prove that the info I know is false.
Even if I were to accept this as an accurate article, which I can't (it misinterprets and combines different actual research improperly), it would prove that aspartame raises BG, not lowers it. So your point that aspartame causes hypoglycemia is wrong.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »EMERALDberry wrote: »http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx Here's 1 link. And by the way, midwest, you are NOT an expert, nor am I. It's like those who still believe that eating eggs worsens cholesterol and because of new studies there are those who do not believe this. You believe what you want to and I'll believe what I want to and you CANNOT prove that the info I know is false.
Even if I were to accept this as an accurate article, which I can't (it misinterprets and combines different actual research improperly), it would prove that aspartame raises BG, not lowers it. So your point that aspartame causes hypoglycemia is wrong.
Oh, so you're smarter than a doctor????? NOT!! Time to block a fool.0 -
EMERALDberry wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »EMERALDberry wrote: »http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx Here's 1 link. And by the way, midwest, you are NOT an expert, nor am I. It's like those who still believe that eating eggs worsens cholesterol and because of new studies there are those who do not believe this. You believe what you want to and I'll believe what I want to and you CANNOT prove that the info I know is false.
Even if I were to accept this as an accurate article, which I can't (it misinterprets and combines different actual research improperly), it would prove that aspartame raises BG, not lowers it. So your point that aspartame causes hypoglycemia is wrong.
Oh, so you're smarter than a doctor????? NOT!! Time to block a fool.
Mercola is an AIDS denier; not only that, but he claims that one of his "miracle superfoods" fight the HIV virus directly.
Do you have an actual reputable source to cite?1 -
xxgabriellaxxchanelxx wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »xxgabriellaxxchanelxx wrote: »
At 5'4 and 122 pounds you shouldn't be trying to lose more than 0.5 pounds per week. Enjoy those extra calories!
How old are you and what's your goal weight?
I'm 18 and my goal weight is 99. Yes, I know that sounds low. But I have very small bone structure and last time I weighed 99 I looked and felt my best (and the doctor said that was an okay weight for me).
The dr told you that you can eat less than 1300 calories a day at your age and aim to become underweight, while you feel ill from eating too little?
They said nothing about calories, but when i did weigh 99 pounds they said I was healthy. 99 pounds isn't necessarily underweight. It depends on your bone structure.0 -
EMERALDberry wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »EMERALDberry wrote: »http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/12/23/artificial-sweeteners-confuse-body.aspx Here's 1 link. And by the way, midwest, you are NOT an expert, nor am I. It's like those who still believe that eating eggs worsens cholesterol and because of new studies there are those who do not believe this. You believe what you want to and I'll believe what I want to and you CANNOT prove that the info I know is false.
Even if I were to accept this as an accurate article, which I can't (it misinterprets and combines different actual research improperly), it would prove that aspartame raises BG, not lowers it. So your point that aspartame causes hypoglycemia is wrong.
Oh, so you're smarter than a doctor????? NOT!! Time to block a fool.
No need to fight, people. I did some research on this, and as far as I can tell, there is no information concerning reactive hypoglycemia being "a step towards diabetes". According to what I could find on medical sites, it seemed to be that pre diabetes can be related to non-diabetic hypoglycemia in SOME CASES. And it it a real medical condition, from what I can find. They said it's a 'rare condition' which is funny because three other people in my immediate family have it as well (the non-diabetic version). I almost wonder if it's somewhat hereditary.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »EMERALDberry wrote: »gebeziseva wrote: »I'm not a doctor but as far as I'm aware hypoglycaemia is a symptom rather than an illness on its own. Your sugar can fall for some reason but not be low in general unless you are diabetic or have other conditions which can cause it to fall on certain occasions.
Are you sure you got hypoglycaemic attack and not an anxiety attack?
You are exactly correct! Hypoglycemia is a step toward diabetes. It occurs when one eats too many carbs and their blood sugar goes out of whack. When my doctor told me I was borderline hypoglycemic, I thought that was a good thing. I said, "cool, isn't that the opposite of diabetes?" He said, no, it's a step towards diabetes, GET OFF THE CARBS! Needless to say, I took his advice. Days I wake up and feel like I am going to throw up if I don't eat something quick, I know that the previous day I had too many carbs or too much aspartame. Aspartame causes hypoglycemia and worsens diabetes.
No, chronic hypoglycemia is a real medical concern that some non-diabetics have. Most commonly, it is reactive hypoglycemia - these people have over-production of insulin in response to BG spikes. It is not a cause of diabetes, nor is it an indicator that one is developing diabetes. In fact, there is more than one "type" of diabetes (they are different diseases entirely) and chronic hypoglycemia is not a symptom of any of them.
As to aspartame causing hypoglycemia and "worsening" diabetes, you must have been reading some of the junk pages. Neither is true. Again, it doesn't worsen any of the many types of diabetes. It also does not cause hypoglycemia. That is something you might see from someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. Usually the explanation is that our pancreas releases insulin in response to taste buds, and so when we taste something sweet, we release insulin. That isn't true - insulin response does not take cues from taste buds, but from BG. If your BG is high, you release insulin regardless of what you ate. This is how it works for non-diabetics, of course.
People can have an insulin response from seeing food or even thinking about food, so an insulin response to tasting something fake sweet isn't exactly a wild theory.
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midwesterner85 wrote: »EMERALDberry wrote: »gebeziseva wrote: »I'm not a doctor but as far as I'm aware hypoglycaemia is a symptom rather than an illness on its own. Your sugar can fall for some reason but not be low in general unless you are diabetic or have other conditions which can cause it to fall on certain occasions.
Are you sure you got hypoglycaemic attack and not an anxiety attack?
You are exactly correct! Hypoglycemia is a step toward diabetes. It occurs when one eats too many carbs and their blood sugar goes out of whack. When my doctor told me I was borderline hypoglycemic, I thought that was a good thing. I said, "cool, isn't that the opposite of diabetes?" He said, no, it's a step towards diabetes, GET OFF THE CARBS! Needless to say, I took his advice. Days I wake up and feel like I am going to throw up if I don't eat something quick, I know that the previous day I had too many carbs or too much aspartame. Aspartame causes hypoglycemia and worsens diabetes.
No, chronic hypoglycemia is a real medical concern that some non-diabetics have. Most commonly, it is reactive hypoglycemia - these people have over-production of insulin in response to BG spikes. It is not a cause of diabetes, nor is it an indicator that one is developing diabetes. In fact, there is more than one "type" of diabetes (they are different diseases entirely) and chronic hypoglycemia is not a symptom of any of them.
As to aspartame causing hypoglycemia and "worsening" diabetes, you must have been reading some of the junk pages. Neither is true. Again, it doesn't worsen any of the many types of diabetes. It also does not cause hypoglycemia. That is something you might see from someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. Usually the explanation is that our pancreas releases insulin in response to taste buds, and so when we taste something sweet, we release insulin. That isn't true - insulin response does not take cues from taste buds, but from BG. If your BG is high, you release insulin regardless of what you ate. This is how it works for non-diabetics, of course.
People can have an insulin response from seeing food or even thinking about food, so an insulin response to tasting something fake sweet isn't exactly a wild theory.
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No, your body does not create insulin because you see or think about food. If that were true, everyone would be hypoglycemic nearly all the time. The ambulances would never make it if they have to drive by restaurants or billboards for restaurants on the way because the paramedics would pass out and crash from hypoglycemia. Where do people get these ideas?2 -
xxgabriellaxxchanelxx wrote: »Today I was doing so well. I ended my last meal at only 1300 calories for the whole day. And then my hypoglycemia attack hit and I started getting weak, tired, shaky, panic-y and devoured probably 300 extra calories just so i wouldn't pass out. I'm not diabetic btw, just hypoglycemic. How am i supposed to lose weight if i keep getting these attacks from a calorie deficit? Anyone else dealing with this?
While I'm probably not full blown hypoglycemic, I could never eat only carbs on an empty stomach without becoming non-functional. I'd always feel like crap after eating much in the way of carbs and especially so if no fat or protein at same time. I tried low glycemic index carbs for a long time.
Feeling best after eating protein or fat led me to try making carbs a very small proportion of diet. I eat about 25-45gr of carbs a day and no more crashing. Problem solved and lost weight very easily when I stopped having the urge to chase the low with more food. Joy!0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »EMERALDberry wrote: »gebeziseva wrote: »I'm not a doctor but as far as I'm aware hypoglycaemia is a symptom rather than an illness on its own. Your sugar can fall for some reason but not be low in general unless you are diabetic or have other conditions which can cause it to fall on certain occasions.
Are you sure you got hypoglycaemic attack and not an anxiety attack?
You are exactly correct! Hypoglycemia is a step toward diabetes. It occurs when one eats too many carbs and their blood sugar goes out of whack. When my doctor told me I was borderline hypoglycemic, I thought that was a good thing. I said, "cool, isn't that the opposite of diabetes?" He said, no, it's a step towards diabetes, GET OFF THE CARBS! Needless to say, I took his advice. Days I wake up and feel like I am going to throw up if I don't eat something quick, I know that the previous day I had too many carbs or too much aspartame. Aspartame causes hypoglycemia and worsens diabetes.
No, chronic hypoglycemia is a real medical concern that some non-diabetics have. Most commonly, it is reactive hypoglycemia - these people have over-production of insulin in response to BG spikes. It is not a cause of diabetes, nor is it an indicator that one is developing diabetes. In fact, there is more than one "type" of diabetes (they are different diseases entirely) and chronic hypoglycemia is not a symptom of any of them.
As to aspartame causing hypoglycemia and "worsening" diabetes, you must have been reading some of the junk pages. Neither is true. Again, it doesn't worsen any of the many types of diabetes. It also does not cause hypoglycemia. That is something you might see from someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. Usually the explanation is that our pancreas releases insulin in response to taste buds, and so when we taste something sweet, we release insulin. That isn't true - insulin response does not take cues from taste buds, but from BG. If your BG is high, you release insulin regardless of what you ate. This is how it works for non-diabetics, of course.
People can have an insulin response from seeing food or even thinking about food, so an insulin response to tasting something fake sweet isn't exactly a wild theory.
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No, your body does not create insulin because you see or think about food. If that were true, everyone would be hypoglycemic nearly all the time. The ambulances would never make it if they have to drive by restaurants or billboards for restaurants on the way because the paramedics would pass out and crash from hypoglycemia. Where do people get these ideas?
Research in human nutrition.
I'm fairly certain your supposition and scenario above is not a product of research.
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midwesterner85 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »EMERALDberry wrote: »gebeziseva wrote: »I'm not a doctor but as far as I'm aware hypoglycaemia is a symptom rather than an illness on its own. Your sugar can fall for some reason but not be low in general unless you are diabetic or have other conditions which can cause it to fall on certain occasions.
Are you sure you got hypoglycaemic attack and not an anxiety attack?
You are exactly correct! Hypoglycemia is a step toward diabetes. It occurs when one eats too many carbs and their blood sugar goes out of whack. When my doctor told me I was borderline hypoglycemic, I thought that was a good thing. I said, "cool, isn't that the opposite of diabetes?" He said, no, it's a step towards diabetes, GET OFF THE CARBS! Needless to say, I took his advice. Days I wake up and feel like I am going to throw up if I don't eat something quick, I know that the previous day I had too many carbs or too much aspartame. Aspartame causes hypoglycemia and worsens diabetes.
No, chronic hypoglycemia is a real medical concern that some non-diabetics have. Most commonly, it is reactive hypoglycemia - these people have over-production of insulin in response to BG spikes. It is not a cause of diabetes, nor is it an indicator that one is developing diabetes. In fact, there is more than one "type" of diabetes (they are different diseases entirely) and chronic hypoglycemia is not a symptom of any of them.
As to aspartame causing hypoglycemia and "worsening" diabetes, you must have been reading some of the junk pages. Neither is true. Again, it doesn't worsen any of the many types of diabetes. It also does not cause hypoglycemia. That is something you might see from someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. Usually the explanation is that our pancreas releases insulin in response to taste buds, and so when we taste something sweet, we release insulin. That isn't true - insulin response does not take cues from taste buds, but from BG. If your BG is high, you release insulin regardless of what you ate. This is how it works for non-diabetics, of course.
People can have an insulin response from seeing food or even thinking about food, so an insulin response to tasting something fake sweet isn't exactly a wild theory.
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No, your body does not create insulin because you see or think about food. If that were true, everyone would be hypoglycemic nearly all the time. The ambulances would never make it if they have to drive by restaurants or billboards for restaurants on the way because the paramedics would pass out and crash from hypoglycemia. Where do people get these ideas?
Research in human nutrition.
I'm fairly certain your supposition and scenario above is not a product of research.
I've been eating for nearly 31 years and have been taking insulin for 21 years. I know how food and insulin affect BG. Can you cite studies as to how looking at food provides "human nutrition?"
Edited for clarification: I literally watch how various things affect BG all day every day, and have been doing so for decades.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »EMERALDberry wrote: »gebeziseva wrote: »I'm not a doctor but as far as I'm aware hypoglycaemia is a symptom rather than an illness on its own. Your sugar can fall for some reason but not be low in general unless you are diabetic or have other conditions which can cause it to fall on certain occasions.
Are you sure you got hypoglycaemic attack and not an anxiety attack?
You are exactly correct! Hypoglycemia is a step toward diabetes. It occurs when one eats too many carbs and their blood sugar goes out of whack. When my doctor told me I was borderline hypoglycemic, I thought that was a good thing. I said, "cool, isn't that the opposite of diabetes?" He said, no, it's a step towards diabetes, GET OFF THE CARBS! Needless to say, I took his advice. Days I wake up and feel like I am going to throw up if I don't eat something quick, I know that the previous day I had too many carbs or too much aspartame. Aspartame causes hypoglycemia and worsens diabetes.
No, chronic hypoglycemia is a real medical concern that some non-diabetics have. Most commonly, it is reactive hypoglycemia - these people have over-production of insulin in response to BG spikes. It is not a cause of diabetes, nor is it an indicator that one is developing diabetes. In fact, there is more than one "type" of diabetes (they are different diseases entirely) and chronic hypoglycemia is not a symptom of any of them.
As to aspartame causing hypoglycemia and "worsening" diabetes, you must have been reading some of the junk pages. Neither is true. Again, it doesn't worsen any of the many types of diabetes. It also does not cause hypoglycemia. That is something you might see from someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. Usually the explanation is that our pancreas releases insulin in response to taste buds, and so when we taste something sweet, we release insulin. That isn't true - insulin response does not take cues from taste buds, but from BG. If your BG is high, you release insulin regardless of what you ate. This is how it works for non-diabetics, of course.
People can have an insulin response from seeing food or even thinking about food, so an insulin response to tasting something fake sweet isn't exactly a wild theory.
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No, your body does not create insulin because you see or think about food. If that were true, everyone would be hypoglycemic nearly all the time. The ambulances would never make it if they have to drive by restaurants or billboards for restaurants on the way because the paramedics would pass out and crash from hypoglycemia. Where do people get these ideas?
Research in human nutrition.
I'm fairly certain your supposition and scenario above is not a product of research.
I've been eating for nearly 31 years and have been taking insulin for 21 years. I know how food and insulin affect BG. Can you cite studies as to how looking at food provides "human nutrition?"
Edited for clarification: I literally watch how various things affect BG all day every day, and have been doing so for decades.
Nope, can't. No one said that, no studies needed.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »EMERALDberry wrote: »gebeziseva wrote: »I'm not a doctor but as far as I'm aware hypoglycaemia is a symptom rather than an illness on its own. Your sugar can fall for some reason but not be low in general unless you are diabetic or have other conditions which can cause it to fall on certain occasions.
Are you sure you got hypoglycaemic attack and not an anxiety attack?
You are exactly correct! Hypoglycemia is a step toward diabetes. It occurs when one eats too many carbs and their blood sugar goes out of whack. When my doctor told me I was borderline hypoglycemic, I thought that was a good thing. I said, "cool, isn't that the opposite of diabetes?" He said, no, it's a step towards diabetes, GET OFF THE CARBS! Needless to say, I took his advice. Days I wake up and feel like I am going to throw up if I don't eat something quick, I know that the previous day I had too many carbs or too much aspartame. Aspartame causes hypoglycemia and worsens diabetes.
No, chronic hypoglycemia is a real medical concern that some non-diabetics have. Most commonly, it is reactive hypoglycemia - these people have over-production of insulin in response to BG spikes. It is not a cause of diabetes, nor is it an indicator that one is developing diabetes. In fact, there is more than one "type" of diabetes (they are different diseases entirely) and chronic hypoglycemia is not a symptom of any of them.
As to aspartame causing hypoglycemia and "worsening" diabetes, you must have been reading some of the junk pages. Neither is true. Again, it doesn't worsen any of the many types of diabetes. It also does not cause hypoglycemia. That is something you might see from someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. Usually the explanation is that our pancreas releases insulin in response to taste buds, and so when we taste something sweet, we release insulin. That isn't true - insulin response does not take cues from taste buds, but from BG. If your BG is high, you release insulin regardless of what you ate. This is how it works for non-diabetics, of course.
People can have an insulin response from seeing food or even thinking about food, so an insulin response to tasting something fake sweet isn't exactly a wild theory.
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No, your body does not create insulin because you see or think about food. If that were true, everyone would be hypoglycemic nearly all the time. The ambulances would never make it if they have to drive by restaurants or billboards for restaurants on the way because the paramedics would pass out and crash from hypoglycemia. Where do people get these ideas?
Research in human nutrition.
I'm fairly certain your supposition and scenario above is not a product of research.
I've been eating for nearly 31 years and have been taking insulin for 21 years. I know how food and insulin affect BG. Can you cite studies as to how looking at food provides "human nutrition?"
Edited for clarification: I literally watch how various things affect BG all day every day, and have been doing so for decades.
Nope, can't. No one said that, no studies needed.
Please explain exactly how you are suggesting that looking at food or thinking about food will cause an insulin release. So far, you're answer is this, which doesn't answer the question:
Research in human nutrition.
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Please explain exactly how you are suggesting that looking at food or thinking about food will cause an insulin release.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3894001/
The NIH is reputable, no?0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »EMERALDberry wrote: »gebeziseva wrote: »I'm not a doctor but as far as I'm aware hypoglycaemia is a symptom rather than an illness on its own. Your sugar can fall for some reason but not be low in general unless you are diabetic or have other conditions which can cause it to fall on certain occasions.
Are you sure you got hypoglycaemic attack and not an anxiety attack?
You are exactly correct! Hypoglycemia is a step toward diabetes. It occurs when one eats too many carbs and their blood sugar goes out of whack. When my doctor told me I was borderline hypoglycemic, I thought that was a good thing. I said, "cool, isn't that the opposite of diabetes?" He said, no, it's a step towards diabetes, GET OFF THE CARBS! Needless to say, I took his advice. Days I wake up and feel like I am going to throw up if I don't eat something quick, I know that the previous day I had too many carbs or too much aspartame. Aspartame causes hypoglycemia and worsens diabetes.
No, chronic hypoglycemia is a real medical concern that some non-diabetics have. Most commonly, it is reactive hypoglycemia - these people have over-production of insulin in response to BG spikes. It is not a cause of diabetes, nor is it an indicator that one is developing diabetes. In fact, there is more than one "type" of diabetes (they are different diseases entirely) and chronic hypoglycemia is not a symptom of any of them.
As to aspartame causing hypoglycemia and "worsening" diabetes, you must have been reading some of the junk pages. Neither is true. Again, it doesn't worsen any of the many types of diabetes. It also does not cause hypoglycemia. That is something you might see from someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. Usually the explanation is that our pancreas releases insulin in response to taste buds, and so when we taste something sweet, we release insulin. That isn't true - insulin response does not take cues from taste buds, but from BG. If your BG is high, you release insulin regardless of what you ate. This is how it works for non-diabetics, of course.
People can have an insulin response from seeing food or even thinking about food, so an insulin response to tasting something fake sweet isn't exactly a wild theory.
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No, your body does not create insulin because you see or think about food. If that were true, everyone would be hypoglycemic nearly all the time. The ambulances would never make it if they have to drive by restaurants or billboards for restaurants on the way because the paramedics would pass out and crash from hypoglycemia. Where do people get these ideas?
Research in human nutrition.
I'm fairly certain your supposition and scenario above is not a product of research.
I've been eating for nearly 31 years and have been taking insulin for 21 years. I know how food and insulin affect BG. Can you cite studies as to how looking at food provides "human nutrition?"
Edited for clarification: I literally watch how various things affect BG all day every day, and have been doing so for decades.
Nope, can't. No one said that, no studies needed.
Please explain exactly how you are suggesting that looking at food or thinking about food will cause an insulin release. So far, you're answer is this, which doesn't answer the question:
Research in human nutrition.
Research like this, swish and spit promotes a Cephalic phase insulin release - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18556090
There is more - insulin can rise prior to BG contrary to statements above. Human nutrition is a big messy topic with very marginal and incomplete understanding.
I refuse to pretend that I know everything about everybody just because I read a lot and have dealt with a problem for a long time but am very determined to keep an open mind and keep learning!0 -
Please explain exactly how you are suggesting that looking at food or thinking about food will cause an insulin release.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3894001/
The NIH is reputable, no?
The NIH republished this article, but didn't write it. The article contains no primary research, only secondary research. I can tell you only read the abstract because the 2nd point made in the abstract has a lot of caveats that you would have noticed if you were to read the actual article (hint: page 10, 2nd paragraph). In short: This doesn't mean what you think it means.2
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