I want nice toned legs but there still wobbly ?!?
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KennyLaguna2016 wrote: »Your still hot...I wouldn't worry about it : )
How is this appropriate, bruh?1 -
The reply was simply telling you why you gained weight. You didn't gain fat, you retained water. Water weight that isn't permanent.
You are new to understanding the science of lifting whixh isn't bad or a crime but I noticed you also believe in "toning"which is a made up word used to market products to sell products decades ago.
The reply(s) wasn't negative, it's just not what you want to hear. There are quite a few people here that know more than the loads of fitness people that shovel lies just to market and sell products.
If you don't want the truth, why ask questions?
I'm not talking about the comments about water retention I'm talking about the comment with the video which was not even remotely useful. As for the word toning well I dnt want to be really muscly and have a six pack ect like the trend is so I thought that would be a better word0 -
ShodanPrime wrote: »hollyblythes wrote: »You need to be much clearer in your information....
What does this mean precisely "train with weights 3 times a week and do cardio 2 times a week"
What weights? What routine? What cardio? How long or how far?
To take it to extremes you could be training like a beast or playing with the pink dumbbells, walking on the spot or cycling 50 miles......
Are you at goal weight?
Are you losing or maintaining at 1200 cals?
"I've been told not to increase it too much too soon" - why? Trying to lose more weight or not?
Sorry! Right so on my two cardio days I do
interval sprints (jog 1min then sprint 45 seconds for 10 mins)
) Xtrainer 15sec slow 15 fast as i can 30sec slow 30 fast as I can, 45sec slow 45sec fast 1min slow 1 min fast for 4 rounds
Then the stepper changing up again how fast I go.
Weight wise
I do a diff every session I dnt have a set plan but things like squats with 12+ Kg kettle bell, smith machine squats or lunches with 5-10kg each side depending what type of squat I'm doing. Lunges with dumbbells ( forwards, backwards and back to the side). Pulsing squats with no weight or a dumbbell. All of these and other types of things like that but it would take me years to write it all, I pick a few and do 10 reps 5 times.
Then leg press, curl and extension I do either single leg at 14kg or both legs at 25kg 10 reps 5 sets.
I also do donkey kicks and that type of thing with an ankle weight.
My upper body I dnt do much and I dnt need to to keep toned because I have very minimal body fat there.
I'm maintaining at 1200. I can assure u I work hard in the gym I never leave without looking a total mess. And I'm not trying to loose weight just body fat. I'm very carb sensitive so i can easily gain weight if I had a week off.
You're not really doing weights at a level that are going to do much for you. The muscles know how to fire which is good, just not likely you'll gain muscle at any point like that, or retain the muscle in a deficit, which is what you'll need if you want definition.
Ok thank you
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ShodanPrime wrote: »hollyblythes wrote: »If I eat carbs everyday I gain weight. My clothes dnt fit me anymore regardless of how long I've been eating them . Theres loads of fitness people out there who eat low carb high fat diets so surely this can be an actual problem for some people
If you eat too much every day you gain weight. Not carbs, it's excess.
That's was poorly worded.. I mean if I have them at more than one meal every day .. Thanks tho.
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hollyblythes wrote: »If I eat carbs everyday I gain weight. My clothes dnt fit me anymore regardless of how long I've been eating them . Theres loads of fitness people out there who eat low carb high fat diets so surely this can be an actual problem for some people
Here is a good article on Carbohydrates.
https://8fit.com/blog/glycogen-gluconeogenesis-and-water-weight/
Thank you will look into this carb thing more see what's going on so this is really useful
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hollyblythes wrote: »If I eat carbs everyday I gain weight. My clothes dnt fit me anymore regardless of how long I've been eating them . Theres loads of fitness people out there who eat low carb high fat diets so surely this can be an actual problem for some people
Here is a good article on Carbohydrates.
https://8fit.com/blog/glycogen-gluconeogenesis-and-water-weight/
This was seriously helpful. Thank you very much for clearing that up for me. Amazing to know I'm not getting fatter haha .. I will introduce some complex carbs on weight days and up my weights .0 -
BadWolf138 wrote: »Squats!! Squats will help you tighten your hamstrings as well as back. Even Romanian lifts are great for hamstrings and glutes. As far as diet, I'd say 50% protein, 30% carbs and 20% fats. Good luck!
Thanks ! Any particular squats ? The smith machines busy a lot so I can't use it ... Do squats with kettle bells really do much ?0 -
Do not listen to people telling you to eat at a caloric deficit currently. At your weight and height, with your current calorie intake, reducing it further could be dangerous. There is no 'toning' when it comes to the body, it's a weird way to think about it. To achieve muscle tone you must increase muscle mass and reduce body fat. At your current weight I would suggest the body fat percentage isn't the issue, it's the amount of muscle mass you have.
I would advise a program that targets your entire body and not just your legs. Consistency is key and training 4 times a week with a split like Chest/Triceps, Back/Biceps, Legs and Shoulders/Abs would get you started. Keep this up for several weeks and you'll start to notice changes not only in your body but quality of sleep, appetite and self worth.
Legs - Squats, Lunges, Sumo Deadlifts, Hamstring Curls, Leg Extensions.
Shoulders - Shoulder press, Front Raises, Lateral Raises, Upright Rows.
Back - Bent over row, T-Bar Row, Pull-ups, Dealifts.
Biceps - Hammer Curls, Bicep Curls (seated and standing, using a bar or dumbbells).
Triceps - Dips, Cable Push-down, Skull crushers.
Chest - Dumbell Press (Incline and Decline), Dumbbell Flies, Cable Flies.
That's a few ideas for exercises to get you started. Use free weights where possible and leave machines behind. Bodybuilding.com has a massive catalogue of exercises to get you started. (Click the annotate body parts)1 -
Do not listen to people telling you to eat at a caloric deficit currently. At your weight and height, with your current calorie intake, reducing it further could be dangerous. There is no 'toning' when it comes to the body, it's a weird way to think about it. To achieve muscle tone you must increase muscle mass and reduce body fat. At your current weight I would suggest the body fat percentage isn't the issue, it's the amount of muscle mass you have.
I would advise a program that targets your entire body and not just your legs. Consistency is key and training 4 times a week with a split like Chest/Triceps, Back/Biceps, Legs and Shoulders/Abs would get you started. Keep this up for several weeks and you'll start to notice changes not only in your body but quality of sleep, appetite and self worth.
Legs - Squats, Lunges, Sumo Deadlifts, Hamstring Curls, Leg Extensions.
Shoulders - Shoulder press, Front Raises, Lateral Raises, Upright Rows.
Back - Bent over row, T-Bar Row, Pull-ups, Dealifts.
Biceps - Hammer Curls, Bicep Curls (seated and standing, using a bar or dumbbells).
Triceps - Dips, Cable Push-down, Skull crushers.
Chest - Dumbell Press (Incline and Decline), Dumbbell Flies, Cable Flies.
That's a few ideas for exercises to get you started. Use free weights where possible and leave machines behind. Bodybuilding.com has a massive catalogue of exercises to get you started. (Click the annotate body parts)
Thank you. The ideas are really helpful. I do upper body but not split like that, I'm guilty of doing legs a lot so I'll give that a try
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hollyblythes wrote: »I'm 24, female 8st 5, train with weights 3 times a week and do cardio 2 times a week ... My legs are toned in the sense that when I tense they are firm but when I'm not tensing ther all wobbly and you can't see any deffinaiton ! I really want nice clearly defined hamstrings ... Any advice ? Why am I not getting any leaner ?
My legs are pretty swole from the running I do.
They still wobble when at rest.0 -
hollyblythes wrote: »If I eat carbs everyday I gain weight. My clothes dnt fit me anymore regardless of how long I've been eating them . Theres loads of fitness people out there who eat low carb high fat diets so surely this can be an actual problem for some people
No, it's really not.-1 -
hollyblythes wrote: »BadWolf138 wrote: »Squats!! Squats will help you tighten your hamstrings as well as back. Even Romanian lifts are great for hamstrings and glutes. As far as diet, I'd say 50% protein, 30% carbs and 20% fats. Good luck!
Thanks ! Any particular squats ? The smith machines busy a lot so I can't use it ... Do squats with kettle bells really do much ?
Barbell back squat, do it in a power cage. Then follow it up with Romanian deadlifts. Then a bit of work on the hack squat machine and then some glute ham raises.1 -
Do not listen to people telling you to eat at a caloric deficit currently. At your weight and height, with your current calorie intake, reducing it further could be dangerous. There is no 'toning' when it comes to the body, it's a weird way to think about it. To achieve muscle tone you must increase muscle mass and reduce body fat. At your current weight I would suggest the body fat percentage isn't the issue, it's the amount of muscle mass you have.
I would advise a program that targets your entire body and not just your legs. Consistency is key and training 4 times a week with a split like Chest/Triceps, Back/Biceps, Legs and Shoulders/Abs would get you started. Keep this up for several weeks and you'll start to notice changes not only in your body but quality of sleep, appetite and self worth.
Legs - Squats, Lunges, Sumo Deadlifts, Hamstring Curls, Leg Extensions.
Shoulders - Shoulder press, Front Raises, Lateral Raises, Upright Rows.
Back - Bent over row, T-Bar Row, Pull-ups, Dealifts.
Biceps - Hammer Curls, Bicep Curls (seated and standing, using a bar or dumbbells).
Triceps - Dips, Cable Push-down, Skull crushers.
Chest - Dumbell Press (Incline and Decline), Dumbbell Flies, Cable Flies.
That's a few ideas for exercises to get you started. Use free weights where possible and leave machines behind. Bodybuilding.com has a massive catalogue of exercises to get you started. (Click the annotate body parts)
Too much fat on my legs is preventing definition.
Do not lose fat!
Seems a good plan.0 -
ShodanPrime wrote: »Do not listen to people telling you to eat at a caloric deficit currently. At your weight and height, with your current calorie intake, reducing it further could be dangerous. There is no 'toning' when it comes to the body, it's a weird way to think about it. To achieve muscle tone you must increase muscle mass and reduce body fat. At your current weight I would suggest the body fat percentage isn't the issue, it's the amount of muscle mass you have.
I would advise a program that targets your entire body and not just your legs. Consistency is key and training 4 times a week with a split like Chest/Triceps, Back/Biceps, Legs and Shoulders/Abs would get you started. Keep this up for several weeks and you'll start to notice changes not only in your body but quality of sleep, appetite and self worth.
Legs - Squats, Lunges, Sumo Deadlifts, Hamstring Curls, Leg Extensions.
Shoulders - Shoulder press, Front Raises, Lateral Raises, Upright Rows.
Back - Bent over row, T-Bar Row, Pull-ups, Dealifts.
Biceps - Hammer Curls, Bicep Curls (seated and standing, using a bar or dumbbells).
Triceps - Dips, Cable Push-down, Skull crushers.
Chest - Dumbell Press (Incline and Decline), Dumbbell Flies, Cable Flies.
That's a few ideas for exercises to get you started. Use free weights where possible and leave machines behind. Bodybuilding.com has a massive catalogue of exercises to get you started. (Click the annotate body parts)
Too much fat on my legs is preventing definition.
Do not lose fat!
Seems a good plan.
Actually, she can already see definition on her legs when they're tensed, if you read her post. So losing fat is not a good idea. Telling someone to lose weight at 8st 5lbs when they're 5' 4" and already eat hardly any calories and only 1200 calories a day is going to give them an eating disorder. Increased exercise through lifting will reduce body fat without making those changes.
Also - did you read what I wrote? Lack of definition (or tone) can be the result of too much body fat or a lack of muscle mass. This girl does not have ecessive body fat.
If you're having trouble with your carbs btw - try to make sure your eating wholemeal carbohydrates which tend to be slower releasing. This made a big change for me when I started training all those years ago ☺️.2 -
ShodanPrime wrote: »Do not listen to people telling you to eat at a caloric deficit currently. At your weight and height, with your current calorie intake, reducing it further could be dangerous. There is no 'toning' when it comes to the body, it's a weird way to think about it. To achieve muscle tone you must increase muscle mass and reduce body fat. At your current weight I would suggest the body fat percentage isn't the issue, it's the amount of muscle mass you have.
I would advise a program that targets your entire body and not just your legs. Consistency is key and training 4 times a week with a split like Chest/Triceps, Back/Biceps, Legs and Shoulders/Abs would get you started. Keep this up for several weeks and you'll start to notice changes not only in your body but quality of sleep, appetite and self worth.
Legs - Squats, Lunges, Sumo Deadlifts, Hamstring Curls, Leg Extensions.
Shoulders - Shoulder press, Front Raises, Lateral Raises, Upright Rows.
Back - Bent over row, T-Bar Row, Pull-ups, Dealifts.
Biceps - Hammer Curls, Bicep Curls (seated and standing, using a bar or dumbbells).
Triceps - Dips, Cable Push-down, Skull crushers.
Chest - Dumbell Press (Incline and Decline), Dumbbell Flies, Cable Flies.
That's a few ideas for exercises to get you started. Use free weights where possible and leave machines behind. Bodybuilding.com has a massive catalogue of exercises to get you started. (Click the annotate body parts)
Too much fat on my legs is preventing definition.
Do not lose fat!
Seems a good plan.
Actually, she can already see definition on her legs when they're tensed, if you read her post. So losing fat is not a good idea. Telling someone to lose weight at 8st 5lbs when they're 5' 4" and already eat hardly any calories and only 1200 calories a day is going to give them an eating disorder. Increased exercise through lifting will reduce body fat without making those changes.
Also - did you read what I wrote? Lack of definition (or tone) can be the result of too much body fat or a lack of muscle mass. This girl does not have ecessive body fat.
If you're having trouble with your carbs btw - try to make sure your eating wholemeal carbohydrates which tend to be slower releasing. This made a big change for me when I started training all those years ago ☺️.
This is exactly what I have been trying to say. Losing more fat is not always the answer. People need to not just read an OP and respond to it. Use your critical thinking, consider all of the facts (including doing the math and looking at a weight chart if you aren't familiar with female weights/heights), and then respond.0 -
hollyblythes wrote: »Oh god ... Enough with the negativity ! Thort people were supposed to be nice and help each other out not judge them (roll eyes) ... All I know is how my body reacts to eating a lot of carbs- badly so I'm gunna listen to what my body is telling me it think that's important personally
I am in the same shoes. MY body does not react to carbs well, and I get a sick feeling if I over eat carbs, usually anything over 50-60 grams in a day. I can eat all the veggies I want, but when I start getting into rice, or sweet potatoes, that is when my body starts to disagree with me. I switched to a Ketogenic diet about 2 weeks ago, focusing on high fat, low carbs, and decent amount of protein, and I feel amazing. No more bloating, no more cramping, my energy levels are up, and I am losing weight too.
I would also recommend to check out Mind Pump if your concerned about your lifting. They are a fitness Podcast, but they will change the way you look at fitness, food and living. I've been listening to them and starting following their programs a couple weeks ago and I have seen increases in all my core lifts, squats, bench and deadlift. Best of luck!1 -
hollyblythes wrote: »BadWolf138 wrote: »Squats!! Squats will help you tighten your hamstrings as well as back. Even Romanian lifts are great for hamstrings and glutes. As far as diet, I'd say 50% protein, 30% carbs and 20% fats. Good luck!
Thanks ! Any particular squats ? The smith machines busy a lot so I can't use it ... Do squats with kettle bells really do much ?
Yes Squats!!!!!! Even air squats do a lot if done properly. Adding weight with a kettlebell or barbell...bonus. Deadlifts have also helped me with definition in my legs. I always recommend having a trainer to help with form in the beginning. Form is key. Oh, and lots of protein in your diet!
Even very muscular legs have a wobble, so I wouldn't worry too much.0 -
If you want to look more solid without flexing, you may have to progressively lift heavier. Do you have access to free weights? Specifically an Olympic barbell and cage? If you do, SL5x5 is a good beginner program that introduces you to the five basic compound lifts. The program has you start with just the bar and progressively add weights every session. You build strength fast while learning good foundation lifts. Strong Curves has more variety but does not have an easy app to follow that lays out the sets/reps and weight increases like SL. But SC has great moves for lower body training. You just have to track your progress and gradually lift heavier. I did both. And now I integrate both into my training.
You may be basically maintaining what you have built if you are not upping the resistance. A lifting program can help you learn to progress (train your CNS and muscle). And, with time and progressively heavier weights, you can see results.
ETA: ^^^^^ protein!0
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