Yay, found a Weightloss shake made with REAL sugar!
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Amfmmama: The carnation powder is OK, but the downside is it doesn't blend well with ice, like in slimfast. It gets watery fast, and if you add too much ice to blender, the flavor of your powder will disappear. Find it mixes very well with 2 tbsp.creamy peanut butter, especially the milk chocolate flavor powder, and use a little less ice. I found this method on Livestrong.com. it's nice, too, because it contains vitamins, and is convenient in the packet form, ESP when you gotta take it to work. Also waiting for small pack of chocolate protein powder from Nutrisystem on ebay, which is made with Sucralose. Kinda weary of this, but, it got fantastic reviews on many sites related to this Nutrisystem protein shake. So we'll see. Hope it tastes decent.
Pearblossom: rather have real sugar in my food/drinks/diet shakes, than the artificial crap-sweeteners. I'm just one of those sensitive people that respond differently to certain ingredients, and by golly, ASPARTAME is one of them. If I have diet ice tea or SF jello just once a day X a few days, I will get debilitating headaches!!! Lasting day into night. No fun. So that's why I stay away from it, and try to avoid it if I can. Never had a reaction to real sugar, I just have to be more aware of how much sugar per serving, etc., and not overdo it with sugar. Yeah, I know it don't help when it comes to weightloss, but slimfast is helping greatly with my portion control, which currently, is a real, big problem. Rather drink slimfast, than eat bread w/PB & J, which is turning into ALOT of sugar, anywayanyway, and then I wind up feeling real tired and no energy later in the day. Since I began slimfast, I have alot more energy, and dont get that horrible, cranky, sleepy mode at 5 - 6:30 PM anymore. Gotta stay awake and be in a nice mood when I help get child ready for bed. Rather not be a monster mom when I spend time with my child. I get bloated real bad with breads, and I find slimfast is slowly helping with belly bloat, too!!! Rught now, real belly bloat cuz i had 2 slices of excellent italian bread with dinner. Oh was it good, but it really shot up my calorie count for today. Thanks and have a nice evening to all! Looking forward to tomorrow, another day of making positive strides toward this weight-loss and healthy lifestyle "journey".3 -
@PattyBanzhof1 Have you considered making your own smoothie? This is what I do, and have perfect control of what I put in there, as well as the macros.4
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Patty- kudos to you for being civil to all those critiquing your journey. Each and everyone of us is on our OWN journey and must do what works for us. My god it was mind boggling to read the continuing harassment. Artificial sweeteners are in no way shape or form good for anyone. The ARTIFICIAL in the name is the clue here people. If you want to put that chemically created crap into your body by all means do so. I also have issues with them but mine are bladder related. Hubby gave up diet soda and dropped 10 pounds with no other changes. Again, glad you found something that works for you! Stay classy Patty and good luck on your journey.1
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Patty- kudos to you for being civil to all those critiquing your journey. Each and everyone of us is on our OWN journey and must do what works for us. My god it was mind boggling to read the continuing harassment. Artificial sweeteners are in no way shape or form good for anyone. The ARTIFICIAL in the name is the clue here people. If you want to put that chemically created crap into your body by all means do so. I also have issues with them but mine are bladder related. Hubby gave up diet soda and dropped 10 pounds with no other changes. Again, glad you found something that works for you! Stay classy Patty and good luck on your journey.8
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Patty- kudos to you for being civil to all those critiquing your journey. Each and everyone of us is on our OWN journey and must do what works for us. My god it was mind boggling to read the continuing harassment. Artificial sweeteners are in no way shape or form good for anyone. The ARTIFICIAL in the name is the clue here people. If you want to put that chemically created crap into your body by all means do so. I also have issues with them but mine are bladder related. Hubby gave up diet soda and dropped 10 pounds with no other changes. Again, glad you found something that works for you! Stay classy Patty and good luck on your journey.
I say this with absolutely no malice or "harassment" intended, but I'm not sure you understand chemicals. You are chemical crap. Water is chemical crap. Salt is chemical crap. Baking soda is chemical crap. A stick of wood is chemical crap. Everything is a chemical. Man made, artificial... it doesn't matter. It's made out of the same elements. Hemlock is natural, I'm still not putting it in a smoothie.
This is why sources and definitions are important. Anyone can claim anything with any buzz word and be utterly, utterly wrong. I will repost a list of things that people on MFP have said will prevent weight loss and/or cause cancer and other health problems:
Artificial sweeteners
Natural sweeteners
Sugar but not honey or maple syrup
GMO fruits and vegetables
non-organic fruits and vegetables
organic fruits and vegetables that have harsh organic pesticides
bananas of all types
potatoes (but not sweet potatoes)
sweet potatoes
Any produce not bought at a farmer's market
all meats
fatty meats
red meats (but sometimes grass-fed beef is okay)
chicken (but sometimes cage free is okay)
milk
all dairy
some dairy
tofu
eggs
canned tuna
ocean fish
fish from farms
overly processed foods
processed foods
foods that aren't "clean" (with no clear definition of "clean")
gluten
carbs both "good" and "bad"
grains (unless they're whole grain)
"white" foods
For most people with no health conditions these things are fine.
Back to your regularly scheduled topic.7 -
[/quote] We know how artificial sweeteners work. They're not detrimental to your health and it's not possible to drop 10 pounds from removing something with 0 calories from your diet.[/quote]
So wait, now I am a liar? Ugh. Again, just talking about MY EXPERIENCES. Not sure why you would think I would make something up, I have no reason. This is the reason I post so little. Some people are so rude and obnoxious and make these one size fits all statements. You can't possibly, it's not possible, there's no way..... My mother drilled into me when I was little, "If you do not have something nice to say Michele, DO NOT SAY ANYTHING at all." This is sound advice I am passing along.
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stevencloser wrote: »We know how artificial sweeteners work. They're not detrimental to your health and it's not possible to drop 10 pounds from removing something with 0 calories from your diet.
Sometimes I can see some water weight retention if I drink a bunch of diet soda the day before (like 2-3cans), which falls off the next day if I don't drink any. But it's definitely anecdotal, could be all kinds of crap.
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So wait, now I am a liar? Ugh. Again, just talking about MY EXPERIENCES. Not sure why you would think I would make something up, I have no reason. This is the reason I post so little. Some people are so rude and obnoxious and make these one size fits all statements. You can't possibly, it's not possible, there's no way..... My mother drilled into me when I was little, "If you do not have something nice to say Michele, DO NOT SAY ANYTHING at all." This is sound advice I am passing along.
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I'm saying you attribute someone's weight loss to something that can't possibly be the cause.
Yes, can't possibly. As in "with this, gravity doesn't apply to you" not possibly.
This has nothing to do with rudeness, but with reality.3 -
We know how artificial sweeteners work. They're not detrimental to your health and it's not possible to drop 10 pounds from removing something with 0 calories from your diet.
So wait, now I am a liar? Ugh. Again, just talking about MY EXPERIENCES. Not sure why you would think I would make something up, I have no reason. This is the reason I post so little. Some people are so rude and obnoxious and make these one size fits all statements. You can't possibly, it's not possible, there's no way..... My mother drilled into me when I was little, "If you do not have something nice to say Michele, DO NOT SAY ANYTHING at all." This is sound advice I am passing along.
Except no one was not being nice, just correcting false info. That phrase doesn't mean that you should only speak if you agree with them person and if you don't agree to stay silent.0 -
Let's all just TRY to not be so "defensive" if you wanna call it that, RESPECT each other's beliefs and not be so nit-picky. Just shut up already. I'm starting to get a headache from all this, and it's not ASPARTAME -related, either. Please try to keep FOCUSED on our weightloss and/or healthy lifestyle goals, which is why we're all on this MFP site, anyway, right?? If you're here to nit-pick and *kitten* up a storm, then go post your anger somewhere else. Little did I realize MFP had such angry, stressed-out, and unwelcoming members!!!1
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I think you aren't understanding that sugar is not healthier than artificial sweeteners. I can agree to everything in moderation but sugar has its own negative affects on your body.
The answer here is eat real food as much as possible.1 -
PattyBanzhof1 wrote: »Let's all just TRY to not be so "defensive" if you wanna call it that, RESPECT each other's beliefs and not be so nit-picky. Just shut up already. I'm starting to get a headache from all this, and it's not ASPARTAME -related, either. Please try to keep FOCUSED on our weightloss and/or healthy lifestyle goals, which is why we're all on this MFP site, anyway, right?? If you're here to nit-pick and *kitten* up a storm, then go post your anger somewhere else. Little did I realize MFP had such angry, stressed-out, and unwelcoming members!!!
Correcting your baseless assertions, scare mongering and misinformation is not nit-picking, and it's not being defensive. We are not angry, stressed out or unwelcoming. We are preventing the spread of pseudoscience. My guess is that you finally realize you are flat out wrong and can't admit so now you are trying hand wave it away. If you don't want your nonsense beliefs questioned them don't post them. Just admit you are wrong about artificial sweeteners and drop it.6 -
Except no one was not being nice, just correcting false info. That phrase doesn't mean that you should only speak if you agree with them person and if you don't agree to stay silent.
Correcting false info or the wildest claims based on quackery is apparently defined as "hating" in this forum. No matter that it's misleading for other folks who come here looking for accurate information and find pseudoscience in its stead.
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PattyBanzhof1 wrote: »Let's all just TRY to not be so "defensive" if you wanna call it that, RESPECT each other's beliefs and not be so nit-picky. Just shut up already. I'm starting to get a headache from all this, and it's not ASPARTAME -related, either. Please try to keep FOCUSED on our weightloss and/or healthy lifestyle goals, which is why we're all on this MFP site, anyway, right?? If you're here to nit-pick and *kitten* up a storm, then go post your anger somewhere else. Little did I realize MFP had such angry, stressed-out, and unwelcoming members!!!
Facts care little for your beliefs.4 -
I mean seriously, just drink some milk. This shake is a waste of time and calories. Do what makes you happy, but you are just drinking sugar.2
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We know how artificial sweeteners work. They're not detrimental to your health and it's not possible to drop 10 pounds from removing something with 0 calories from your diet.
So wait, now I am a liar? Ugh. Again, just talking about MY EXPERIENCES. Not sure why you would think I would make something up, I have no reason. This is the reason I post so little. Some people are so rude and obnoxious and make these one size fits all statements. You can't possibly, it's not possible, there's no way..... My mother drilled into me when I was little, "If you do not have something nice to say Michele, DO NOT SAY ANYTHING at all." This is sound advice I am passing along.
You are complaining about people being rude and obnoxious, yet you accuse people who enjoy artificial sweeteners of putting "artificial crap" into their bodies.
You're upset about people making blanket statements but you said yourselfArtificial sweeteners are in no way shape or form good for anyone.
which is a blanket statement.
For MOST people, artificial sweetners are not dangerous or unhealthy. They have been studied to death and the court has adjourned except for a few fear-mongering naturopaths and quack doctors with blogs.
And the word "artificial" doesn't make it bad. Is an "artificial" leg for an amputee something that you would poo poo because it's "artificial"?8 -
Patty, I love that you are keeping it positive, even with the haters!! It's great that you have found a shake that is working for you. I used to have a shake for breakfast every morning. It's convenient, quick and fit in my diet. Now, I have switched it up and will grab one when I need one. I have never tried the carnation, but maybe I will give it a shot.
Thanks for the tip!
Haters?! Lol oh how I love that word. Haters....as in jealous? Yeah I'm jealous she is drinking a chocolate shake for breakfast, a shake I can go to the store and buy for myself......but I know, I'm so jealous. I gotta put that hateraide down!! ( unless it helps me lose weight)4 -
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So I had to come see what all the fuss was about !
What is this shake ? Could someone post the macros and nutritional info ? I'm just curious because I never tasted it and do like sugar0 -
thorsmom01 wrote: »So I had to come see what all the fuss was about !
What is this shake ? Could someone post the macros and nutritional info ? I'm just curious because I never tasted it and do like sugar
Weirdly enough I used to drink them in high school for a while when I was too lazy to get up in time to make breakfast (I hate cold cereal, so for me making breakfast was cooking eggs or making some oatmeal). I don't remember them being that great, but tasty enough, basically like the way a decent protein powder tastes. (I wouldn't recommend them for a teenager now, of course, and they may not taste the same at all.)
(I didn't lose weight when drinking them, but I wasn't trying to and didn't need to.)
Macros and nutritional nothing to write home about:
130 calories plus whatever is in the milk you mix it with.
5 g protein, 27 g carbs, .5 g fat. Seems to be fortified with various vitamins.
Ingredients:
NONFAT MILK, SUGAR, MALTODEXTRIN, COCOA (PROCESSED WITH ALKALI), LACTOSE, AND LESS THAN 2% OF DICALCIUM PHOSPHATE, MAGNESIUM HYDROXIDE, SODIUM ASCORBATE (VITAMIN C), SOY LECITHIN, CARRAGEENAN, NATURAL AND ARTIFICIAL FLAVOR, FERRIC ORTHOPHOSPHATE (IRON SOURCE), CORNSTARCH, ALPHA TOCOPHERYL ACETATE (VITAMIN E), NIACINAMIDE, SALT, COPPER GLUCONATE, ZINC OXIDE, CALCIUM PANTOTHENATE (PANTOTHENIC ACID), MANGANESE SULFATE, VITAMIN A PALMITATE, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE (VITAMIN B6), THIAMINE MONONITRATE (VITAMIN B1), BIOTIN, VITAMIN K1 (PHYTONADIONE), FOLIC ACID, VITAMIN D3 (CHOLECALCIFEROL), VITAMIN B12 (CYANOCOBALAMIN).0
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