The Woo That You Do (Or Did)
bpetrosky
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What bad weight loss plans or advice did you follow before getting onto calorie counting? How did you come to the conclusion they didn't work?
For me:
* Nutrisystem: Under the old shelf-stable plans. Tasted awful, lost a little, but not worth it. Sad cracker pizza.
* South Beach: Worked ok for a few months, but the rules were hard to follow where work had me eating out a lot and/or I couldn't keep the schedule that was recommended. Also pretty expensive for the foods you had to choose.
* 4-hour Body: Just dumb...didn't work
* Various supplements at various times. Never made a difference.
* Weight loss center: Worked great, I did lose and a lot. Also was expensive, and would have been more if I had bought all the bars and supplements and other stuff they peddled. I also realized I was eating extremely low carb and low calorie and that made me feel like crud. I felt much better once I re-upped my carb level.
While I was doing the weight loss center plan I started using MFP and realized I could still make progress while eating more than their mail plan recommended (same time I upped the carbs). After the plan, I didn't need to follow their recommendation anymore but kept with MFP.
For me:
* Nutrisystem: Under the old shelf-stable plans. Tasted awful, lost a little, but not worth it. Sad cracker pizza.
* South Beach: Worked ok for a few months, but the rules were hard to follow where work had me eating out a lot and/or I couldn't keep the schedule that was recommended. Also pretty expensive for the foods you had to choose.
* 4-hour Body: Just dumb...didn't work
* Various supplements at various times. Never made a difference.
* Weight loss center: Worked great, I did lose and a lot. Also was expensive, and would have been more if I had bought all the bars and supplements and other stuff they peddled. I also realized I was eating extremely low carb and low calorie and that made me feel like crud. I felt much better once I re-upped my carb level.
While I was doing the weight loss center plan I started using MFP and realized I could still make progress while eating more than their mail plan recommended (same time I upped the carbs). After the plan, I didn't need to follow their recommendation anymore but kept with MFP.
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Slim Fast in college. The shakes were gross and I didn't understand what a healthy dinner looked like. Not sure I ever lost anything and I didn't learn anything, either.
Recently I found my food diary from the attempt before MFP. It's a hand-written notebook. I understood something about calories, but I was logging a lot of 800-900 calorie days, estimating and eyeballing big time, and didn't stick to it long.6 -
In college, the professor wanted us to try a 1 week fast with coffee enemas, almost crashed my car after 2nd day into an overpass. Professors are scary, I'm informing me soon to be college bound kiddo to be very wary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w58E2S315a43 -
I'm on Nutrisystem now and it's working but then, I like the food and the convenience (since I only cook for myself.)
Oh, man, what didn't I try? Keto, Atkins, Paleo and South Beach failed because I became a really nasty person and I suspect the low carb thing isn't good for the human body, anyway. Veganism failed, or maybe I failed veganism, and Dr. Furhman's ETL diet was the grossest thing ever. I was always sneaking treats, then I would feel bad, which would lead to binging, and repeat. I was a lacto-ovo vegetarian for a while and did well on that but then I became a "junk vegetarian" and gained all of the weight back. A registered dietician put me on an ADA (American Diabetic Asociation) diet but my blood sugar never went down and I was hungry all of the time.2 -
Ouch @queenliz99. Glad you didn't have a serious wreck!1
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queenliz99 wrote: »In college, the professor wanted us to try a 1 week fast with coffee enemas, almost crashed my car after 2nd day into an overpass. Professors are scary, I'm informing me soon to be college bound kiddo to be very wary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w58E2S315a4
Yikes! You gotta watch them profs... They be cray2 -
I tried Keto/LCHF. I was cranky all the time and also gained weight because as it turns out, I am a human being ENTIRELY capable of eating an entire bag of lil smokies in one sitting.6
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I've tried everything -- most worked short term. I always ended up regaining because I never understood how to really lose weight: calories in / calories out. Once I found MFP, ba-bam! Lost 51-53 lbs. (fluctuations) slowly and sustainably. Maintaining a healthy weight range since February of 2015. I educated myself about BMI, TDEE and how to create a modest deficit by reading the threads here on MFP then researched further to develop the best plan for me.
Short list of diets I sucked at: Atkins, South Beach, Nutri-Systems, Weight Watchers, Jenny Craig.7 -
Phen-Fen 1995 500 calories a day. Cut me some slack - it was for my younger sister's wedding. Luckily I wasn't on it long enough to harm myself.
Medi-fast 2012 - no excuses for that one.3 -
I tried so many ridiculous things before I knew any better that I probably can't name them all.
I didn't understand that weight loss came from a calorie deficit so thought I had to go to extremes just to lose weight. I had no idea that it just came down to calories.
I tried low carb. That was unsustainable and miserable. Lost some water weight and that was it. I didn't know any better and believed all the low carb hype . turns out all I needed was a calorie deficit to lose weight6 -
Slim Fast, The Special K diet, Cabbage Soup, Green smoothie cleanse, herbal supplements, food combining, Alli.
Weight Watchers and the ADA food exchange plan actually worked for me so I can't say they're woo. I'm here because I'm still not thrilled with WW' s new program2 -
I don't remember the names of the diets I tried. Most of the time it was silly stuff like cutting out sugar. I had a headache for a week, but I had also given up caffeine at the same time... I didn't think about added sugar versus naturally occurring sugar in fruits and veggies. I once tried a diet that said to eat 30 grams of carbs and 30 grams of protein with each 'meal' five times per day, and then 2 cups of veg. I didn't really know what that meant, so I was eating a slice of bread and a slice of cheese. I was hungry. Seriously misinformed before coming here and learning from so many knowledgeable people. If I could thank them, I would.
ETA: Juicing! And a detox/cleanse! Yup, those both kept my in the bathroom cleansing my kitten which became incredibly raw after a couple days. Dropped weight for sure! Right back on once eating normal foods again. I still like a homemade juice, but prefer a smoothie with protein powder. They are part of my diet, not the whole thing.5 -
Weight Watchers, Super low calorie eating (800 calories or less), LA Weight Loss, Jenny Craig, Atkins, The Zone, Nutrisystem, South Beach and Medifast. Phew! That's a lot. Now I'm just doing CICO. I've lost 31 pounds since November. I have another 15 to go and have recently changed my goal to lose 0.5 a week. I'm learning portion control and I'm not looking for a quick fix. I know this is a lifestyle change. I have days where I slip up, but I don't beat myself up over it. I feel like I'm just in a better place mentally this time.6
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Weight Watchers, Super low calorie eating (800 calories or less), LA Weight Loss, Jenny Craig, Atkins, The Zone, Nutrisystem, South Beach and Medifast. Phew! That's a lot. Now I'm just doing CICO. I've lost 31 pounds since November. I have another 15 to go and have recently changed my goal to lose 0.5 a week. I'm learning portion control and I'm not looking for a quick fix. I know this is a lifestyle change. I have days where I slip up, but I don't beat myself up over it. I feel like I'm just in a better place mentally this time.
It's funny you say you feel you're in a better place mentally. I feel that, too, with calorie counting. The simplest foods are astronomically high in points now on the new WW points system and I feel guilty eating them. Now, I just pre track, weigh/ measure, and eat. No guilt! Weight Watchers did have its place in my life at one point, I just don't think it's a good fit anymore.2 -
I can honestly say that I have never done a diet,took pills, ive done no woo lol. this is the first time I have counted my calories and the first thing I have done to lose weight.I didnt have to work at losing when I was younger,now I do.I knew at a young age that those types of diets werent for me2
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Nice thread!
I lost weight a few times in my 20's by basically starving myself. Not good, and resolved not to do that again.
I was opposed to diet plans, mainly for their commercialism.
However, I put on 30 kg over 15 years, until I happened to learn about MFP from a friend last year.
I've now lost all my excess weight, and am loving being a runner, and am the happiest I've been in my life.4 -
Innocently: Garcinia Cambogia, Shake Weight, some shoes with a weird sole that hurt my feet, and Lean Cuisines
Actually made throw up: Buying sugar free chocolates because they were "healthy" and wouldn't make me gain. I stopped this after eating too much and throwing up in the car. I'm lucky it didn't come out the other way.
Unfortunately, I was able to starve myself for a long time using calorie counting. I had gone from skipping lunch to eating 800 calories a day, with knowing how to accurately log. It was all in a journal I threw out and in an inactive Fatsecret account. My first day or so here is pretty low as well.0 -
Lots of VLCD, I have always went from way over restriction to binging. Never been much for Woo, did fall for the "gluten intolerance" for a while. The one thing I did do that I am lucky didn't kill me was working 12 to 16 hour shifts 6 days a week. I was taking probably 10 or more ephedrine gas station diet pills, and drinking a case of natty light a night. Still not sure how I lived like that for over a year.0
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Thinking running every day meant I could eat whatever I wanted. And I usually did eat around 2,500 calories per day. Not good when you're 5'2"2
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Not so much woo, but when I was younger, I foolishly believed an older coworker who said, "As long as you eat more than 700 calories a day, you'll be fine." Of course, eating that little, I didn't have the energy to exercise or anything, and when I reached my goal weight, I'd also lost a lot of lean mass, and looked like crap. I'm just glad I decided I'd rather weigh more and enjoy life again, rather than continue to eat that way.
Years later, once I learned about TDEE and my real caloric needs, I can maintain easily at 2300, and lose easily (slowly, but easily, which matters more to me for adherence) at 2000.
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I've only lost weight one time, doing alternate day IF, and it worked great for me (just a fancy way of calorie counting). But, back in the day I did go through a phase of experimenting with different woe's because I was trying to find one that led to 'optimal' health, snort. I tried primal/paleo (really got sucked into MDA), vegetarian (gained weight on this one), and then I also did a few months with Dr. F's Eat to Live (which is pretty much vegetarian with extra restrictions). Shockingly, none of these restrictive woes did anything magical for my health or were sustainable past a few months
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I tried:
- 'Eat right for your Blood Type' - Fail... No idea what I was thinking.
- Slimfast - only I didn't actually follow the program. I had 2 shakes a day, and figured I should just magically be losing weight. Fail.
- Childbirth... immediately lost 20(ish) pounds... gained it right back. Twice.
- Um - I tried the South Beach diet, which I failed at.
- I did the Adkins diet and lost 50 pounds, so that worked. Some of the foods I was making were absolutely delicious. But as soon as I stopped low-carbing it I gained the weight right back. Plus 20 lbs. Weight loss success. Maintenance fail.
- Tried MFP. Success. 3 years and counting, 70 pounds lost and kept off.7 -
First of all, "We" are the reason for success (and/or failure). Not MFP or any specific "diet plan".
Second of all, 99.999... percent of diet plans are BS (JMO). The diet industry makes billions of dollars a year off of poor people who lack the knowledge to maintain a healthy body weight on their own, and most of them do not advise a healthy weight loss rate (that should be a red flag right off the bat).
I was lucky enough to learn the basics of fitness and nutrition when I was in the army, and when I became obese, I had enough knowledge to know what I needed to do to get back to and maintain a healthy weight.
I found that keeping it "slow" and "simple"is the best way. my plan was to do it over years, and not weeks or months. This allows time to develop good habits, learn how to eat smarter, and gradually reduce the bad things without shocking my system and setting myself up for failure.
The hardest part for me was the exercise (yes, exercise). I was so out of shape and over weight that I thought I was going to die at first. But once I got to the point where I started increasing my fitness level, it slowly became the main factor in the process.
Here is my simple plan
don't try to lose more than 1 lb. a week
steady state cardio for at least 30 to 60 minutes every day (you can take a day off per week if you want to)
muscular exercise 2 to 3 times per week
eat a variety of food to insure you get enough nutrients to keep your body healthy
eat smart, and gradually reduce the junk foods
once you reach your healthy body weight, you can maintain it very easily with the good habits that you have developed. You can eat that extra 500 calories a day, and reduce your exercise down to the recommended 150 minutes a week, and 1 to 2 sessions of muscular exercise (if you want to).0 -
Great thread! At last it "clicked" for me how I could have been so full of misconceptions, when I actually knew about calories - I understood something about calories - exactly! My knowledge was superficial and not really useful for real life. I believed that I had to eat low fat because fat had "too many" calories, and that I "couldn't" eat candy or chocolate or chips because it was too energy dense. Somehow it would eradicate all my effort. I also believed there was an "ideal" diet, not very clear to me, but I think it included celery, cottage cheese and black rye bread.
I haven't done any spectacular diets, but I dreamed for years about liposuction, fat camp (even had wild ideas of a concept resembling WW2 concentration camps ) and hypnosis. I also tried, half-arsed, chromium and chitosan, and bought some other obscure "weight loss supplement" and a scary looking bottle of "fat burner" pills, neither having any effect, of course.2 -
RunnerGirl1402 wrote: »Thinking running every day meant I could eat whatever I wanted. And I usually did eat around 2,500 calories per day. Not good when you're 5'2"
She keeps telling me she's fine because she runs. I can't imagine what it's going to be like during the summer.
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Tried Atkins in high school, couldn't maintain it long enough to lose. Felt like crap, low energy, head in a fog, increased migraines. I'm never doing low carb again
In college tried to only do exercise but wasn't willing to watch what I ate. Got slightly more toned, didn't lose.
After college tried just drinking green tea every day and changing nothing else. Yeah, that didn't work haha
Finally started MFP 2 years ago, lost 20 lb and got to my goal weight...then immediately got pregnant.
Now I am back and only a few pounds from my pre-pregnancy weight thanks to MFP.
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I tried Dexatrim in high school and thought that taking it would magically make my body not absorb calories in food (even though that's not what it advertised to do, I made that *kitten* up in my head). I tried Slimfast and Nutrisystem and gave up after 2 weeks only losing 2-3 lbs.
I figured it was easier to just stay fat.2 -
The first time I lost a significant amount of weight (30 lbs) I was in 9th grade and decided to give up junk food (candy, cookies, etc.) for Lent. Not sustainable, because I love my sweets!
In the 90s I was totally into Suzanne Powter's "Stop the Insanity". I believe the cornerstone of her plan was not to eat anything with more than 3g of fat in it. Again, not sustainable for me.
I've done South Beach, which worked initially. But it didn't teach me anything about portion control, and once I was able to add in the foods that were forbidden in the early phases, the weight came back on. I have no idea what it means to eat "to satisfaction". I have to weigh out a portion and eat that; I've come to terms with the fact that I'll probably always have to do that.
I've also done Weight Watchers, which I don't really consider woo. The first time I did it was after the weight came back on when Lent was over in 9th grade, LOL. It's just calorie counting with smaller numbers (first it was "exchanges" then "points"). But I got tired of paying for it, hence my arrival here on MFP.
I had a mother who was always thin and never had to try to lose weight. But she had a lot of common sense and was able to steer me away from any of the crazy fads that a lot of people fall victim to.4 -
Atkins. Stayed on it for about three days. Felt worse than I ever had with the exception of when i had the full blown flu. Threw it out the window. Any diet that tells me I can't eat an apple is for the birds!!!!!3
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I never really tried to lose weight before apart from the occasional fad diet ala cabbage soup and its ilk when my friends did them just for fun, so I'm afraid I don't have and particular diet woo under my belt.
It wasn't for weight loss per se, but when I was a in my late teens I bought into this whole "water fasting is the ultimate health elixir" things. I came out of it with intestinal obstruction and anemia. This whole kick lasted about 5 or so months of short 1-3 day fasts and the occasional 5 day fast which weren't that bad. It's when I decided to go 2 weeks that all hell broke loose.0 -
I never really tried to lose weight before MFP so I didn't try any specific failed diets, but I would say what I fell for for a long time was the belief that because I was getting older, had kids, etc that my metabolism had slowed down and my weight gain was just a natural part of all that. I had an overweight mom and sister and just figured it was my genetics that was allowing the weight to slowly creep on over the last 10 years or so before finding MFP.
Now, 3 years later, I weigh less than I did at my wedding and am about 5 lbs from the weight I was when I was my healthiest and most active in college. Take that "women can't lose weight over 40" and "your metabolism slows down when you get older it's just part of life" proponents!11
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