13 yrs old Girl diet??!

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  • elaineamj
    elaineamj Posts: 347 Member
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    My teens don't currently have a weight problem - but we're cracking down on the junk food and pushing them hard to choose healthy, nutritious foods. Yes, they still have junk food (took them for ice cream as a treat yesterday since they've been so great helping with housework and yardwork). But by and large, we're training them to reach for whole foods as snacks. When they say "I'm hungry", the answer is "Do you want an apple/banana/carrots/cucumbers/homemade smoothie/organic energy bar/hardboiled egg?" My DD loves making a yogurt parfait with my homemade plain yogurt and this is gradually replacing her old breakfast of choice (cookies and creme instant oatmeal). Yes, sometimes none of that appeals and they go for the apple jack cereal or buttered toast. Still, on the whole, they are getting more nutritious food, which is what we care about.

    I still have to work on the meals though. They're pretty picky and I hate when we have mealtime battles - much prefer it when they love their meals :) So stuff like frozen chicken nuggets, grilled cheese, homemade pizza, etc is on their menu about 1-2x a week and DH groans about that. So I'm trying to come up with different ideas to reduce their cheese/frozen food intake and increase their veggie consumption (going to try pureeing their veggies and sneaking them in!).

    I'd suggest not worrying about the fat at 13 yrs and focus on eating foods high in nutritional content.
  • jaynee7283
    jaynee7283 Posts: 160 Member
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    My 13 year old is healthy - she has a lovely figure and can eat anything she wants. However, I know she has my genetics in her, which means she could at some point NOT be able to eat anything she wants. But for now, at age 13, I compliment on her how HEALTHY she looks, and how I appreciate how HEALTHY she looks, and that SHE inspires ME to be healthy again.

    Having said that, I also encourage her to go on walks with me - 2 miles here, 3 miles there. I tell her it's to keep me company (and it is most of the time), but also so that she can understand that FOR ME, it's not just changing food habits, but exercise habits.

    To be HEALTHY. I never say I want to be skinny or thin. I always say I want to be healthy.
  • Larissa_NY
    Larissa_NY Posts: 495 Member
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    Thank u all alot for all these helpful advises...u all really releived my heart..I was so worried that this thing will get out if control..but as most of u said...I am not bringing anymore snacks to the house...I limited starchy and fatty food to sone extent...and i stopped mentioning weight issues in the house...
    So..sooner or later..she will learn how to take care of her diet and body...and its gonna be something from the past...because neither I nor her father have a obesity history and if we sometimes get alittle bit off track...we are back to our ideal weights after sometime.
    Hopefully she will get rid of these extra kilos and be a slim beautiful girl

    Wow. I'm sorry, but this is a terrible thing to say. My daughter was slim at some points in her life and heavy at others, but there has literally never been a day when I didn't think she was beautiful.

    And no, this isn't "between you and MFP." You put this on the internet, on a publicly available site. Kids web-surf. How do you think your daughter is going to feel if she comes across what you've written about her?
  • daynaxxanne
    daynaxxanne Posts: 77 Member
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    Talk to a doctor if its of that much of a concern but under no means make your daughter feel self conscious. 13 is a difficult age and this is a very sensitive topic. Also as long as your daughter seems healthy, doctors may not do much. Between 13 and 16 I was underweight but since I was healthy and active, my doctor was not concerned.Teenage body's are different than that of an adult and therefore weight ranges are sometimes less accurate. Also teenage girls put on weight during puberty so their bodies can grow and should eventually lose some of it. Your daughter is too young for you to be worrying about her weight unless there are other negative health problems.
  • Yivs_87
    Yivs_87 Posts: 246 Member
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    Mom is that you from 16 years ago? Because it sure sounds like the person who made me feel like I'm worth nothing unless I was "a beautiful slim girl".

    If you continue with the same attitude then your poor daughter will most certainly suffer from image/diet issues. Change yourself to be an example. If you can't be, then find someone who can teach your daughter to grow up healthy and to love herself no matter what her mother tells her.
  • jessicarobinson00
    jessicarobinson00 Posts: 414 Member
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    Personally, I don't think I would broach this subject with my daughter...but of course: as a parent there are things that you can do such as making more health conscious meals and including her in on your exercise (see my photo: my 12 year old son IS my gym buddy!!)
  • Scamd83
    Scamd83 Posts: 808 Member
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    and u know a school girl how they move and go.

    Erm, nope.
    Hopefully she will get rid of these extra kilos and be a slim beautiful girl

    I can see in five or more years time your daughter is going to be one of those people posting on here about hurtful comments from relatives that makes them feel bad about themselves and drives them to overeating to try and cope.
  • ralostaz2000
    ralostaz2000 Posts: 135 Member
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    When I was 13, I was fat with stringy hair and braces, but my mother told me all the time how pretty I was. It was nice to hear, since I had quite enough people in my life to tell me that I was fat and ugly.
    Love to hear that...exactly what I am telling her always...

  • positivepowers
    positivepowers Posts: 902 Member
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    jodidari wrote: »
    I can't tell you a specific amount but I've seen many articles stating children in their teenage years, especially women, need between 2100-2500 calories a day for their body to carry out metabolic processes and ....puberty. I would say carry her to a nutritionist rather than a pediatrician. Keep in mind she's 13 so puberty may give her some height and even out her height:weight ratio over time. But for now, ensure she is getting in that exercise and eating healthily at home at school until you can get professional help

    NOT a nutritionist. Take her to a registered dietician, preferably one with pediatric training. I'll bet her pediatrician would be able to refer you to one.
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 9,994 Member
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    So I'll offer an alternative perspective.. I've largely given my wife broad discretion in raising my stepdaughter.

    ?!?!
    You've "given" your wife "broad discretion" in raising her daughter? What else do you "give" her discretion to do? Vote?
  • PrizePopple
    PrizePopple Posts: 3,133 Member
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    So I'll offer an alternative perspective.. I've largely given my wife broad discretion in raising my stepdaughter. I have fundamentally disagreed with some decisions made, and always privately discussed them with my wife. Eating habits are one of them, and I watched more or less silently as she went from a "chubby kid" to being a now 300+ pound 18 year old young woman. Portion control was never an acceptable topic. Activity beyond a five minute walk or two flights of stairs was "too much". Sneaking food was met with disapproval, but never consequences. No strategies for appropriate snacking were ever discussed. Now, as a young adult, she has no semblance of how to have a healthy relationship with food.

    Love your daughter. Support your daughter, but teach her. She will be beautiful at any weight. Help her understand that she will likely feel better, be happier, and not be limited in life's activities by being more fit and healthy. Talk to her pediatrician about your concerns with her weight. Talk to a dietician (not a nutritionist) about strategies for coping with hunger in a positive manner. Health and fitness are not beauty and attractiveness, and be sure that she knows, understands, and BELIEVES the difference between them.

    If you don't have a say in how a child is raised because they are not yours and thus not your legal responsibility it is not the same thing. This is a biological mother talking about her daughter who she does have legal rights over. You couldn't have taken your step-daughter to the doctor or other professional without permission from her mother and biological father anyhow. There's a huge difference between putting your 13 year old on a diet and having a conversation about proper eating and exercise habits.
  • Kimmie827mfp
    Kimmie827mfp Posts: 17 Member
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    So I'll offer an alternative perspective.. I've largely given my wife broad discretion in raising my stepdaughter. I have fundamentally disagreed with some decisions made, and always privately discussed them with my wife. Eating habits are one of them, and I watched more or less silently as she went from a "chubby kid" to being a now 300+ pound 18 year old young woman. Portion control was never an acceptable topic. Activity beyond a five minute walk or two flights of stairs was "too much". Sneaking food was met with disapproval, but never consequences. No strategies for appropriate snacking were ever discussed. Now, as a young adult, she has no semblance of how to have a healthy relationship with food.

    Love your daughter. Support your daughter, but teach her. She will be beautiful at any weight. Help her understand that she will likely feel better, be happier, and not be limited in life's activities by being more fit and healthy. Talk to her pediatrician about your concerns with her weight. Talk to a dietician (not a nutritionist) about strategies for coping with hunger in a positive manner. Health and fitness are not beauty and attractiveness, and be sure that she knows, understands, and BELIEVES the difference between them.

    FWIW, I agree with you.
  • Luro2608
    Luro2608 Posts: 9 Member
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    I am actually really glad you posted this discussion. My son is 13 and his BMI is in the overweight range for his age. I have obesity and diabetes in my family and am concerned about his long term health , especially as he is really effected by advertising and fast food and the teen boys guzzling energy drinks and looking ripped. It is a hard culture for kids to choose healthy options, and also combined with his love of technology makes for a bad combination. We eat a healthy balanced diet but he defaults to high sugar foods ( he will walk to the shops and spend all his pocket money on them if allowed), every day. I am glad the dietician was mentioned but he needs it not just for food but activity and mindset... Does anyone have a program for kids that addresses this? I have successfully done 12WBT but they don't do kids... And kids are the ones who need it most.
  • ronjsteele1
    ronjsteele1 Posts: 1,064 Member
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    Luro2608 wrote: »
    I am actually really glad you posted this discussion. My son is 13 and his BMI is in the overweight range for his age. I have obesity and diabetes in my family and am concerned about his long term health , especially as he is really effected by advertising and fast food and the teen boys guzzling energy drinks and looking ripped. It is a hard culture for kids to choose healthy options, and also combined with his love of technology makes for a bad combination. We eat a healthy balanced diet but he defaults to high sugar foods ( he will walk to the shops and spend all his pocket money on them if allowed), every day. I am glad the dietician was mentioned but he needs it not just for food but activity and mindset... Does anyone have a program for kids that addresses this? I have successfully done 12WBT but they don't do kids... And kids are the ones who need it most.

    At this age you can still tell him what he can and cannot eat (because of his age - at least while he's at home). When he wants something not healthy for him you can tell him "no" and give him healthier alternatives. I always tell my kids why I make a decision so they will learn. So to tell him "this is healthier for you so I want you to have one of these options" you begin putting "healthy" in his head (aside from weight). It's a slow process but if he hears it over and over enough he will eventually learn what things are healthy and what things are not. Our kids still have "treats" but they are not often and they understand that treats should be rare because they are not healthy (high sugar, etc.). The other side of the coin (activity) is to get him involved in either a physical activity WITH you (running, walking, etc) or, create work for him. That part was easy for us b/c we live on an acre and thus have tons of work to do. But make him work. And the key to that is working WITH him. And when he's done, reward the work with a healthy, cold smoothie, etc. Hard work becomes a positive thing and the physical activity generally makes them feel good and accomplished when they are done. It also creates a good worker. :-) Both of these things require a parent do them with the child but it helps them feel like they are part of a team and not "mom thinks I need to lose weight." Instead it's, "mom likes to walk and work with me." And the bonus is you build a good, healthy relationship with your child at the same time.

    Man, parenting is HARD work! LOL
  • DearestWinter
    DearestWinter Posts: 595 Member
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    OP, talk to a pediatrician. Your daughter's caloric and nutritional needs are significantly different as she's still growing. She likely needs a lot more calories than you and she needs foods with fats. You need to gain an understanding of how much and what she should be eating.

    Then, model good behavior. Slim does not equate to beautiful. She's beautiful regardless and her worth is not determined by her size. All foods should be eaten in moderation, so focus on variety on the plate. I like table manners to reinforce that notion. You can't shovel food into your mouth to the point of popping a button if you have to use a knife and fork and eat more slowly. Focus on snacks like apples, carrots, cheese, etc. Treats (candy, chips) should be available but in smallish portions. She should be active every day, whether that means walking places, playing a sport, or whatnot. Etc.

    Obviously tailor based on what her doctor tells you, but I wouldn't make this about her calorie intake at all. Unless she's clinically obese you aren't to the point where she needs to be counting calories and logging food.

    Finally, you should see a counselor that specializes in parenting (and nutrition if you can be that specific). See if they have suggestions for how you can reverse the damage you've done by mentioning her weight. This is serious. Even the most emotionally sturdy child can be affected by being told they're heavy at that age.
  • cerise_noir
    cerise_noir Posts: 5,468 Member
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    Thank u all alot for all these helpful advises...u all really releived my heart..I was so worried that this thing will get out if control..but as most of u said...I am not bringing anymore snacks to the house...I limited starchy and fatty food to sone extent and i stopped mentioning weight issues in the house...
    So..sooner or later..she will learn how to take care of her diet and body...and its gonna be something from the past...because neither I nor her father have a obesity history and if we sometimes get alittle bit off track...we are back to our ideal weights after sometime.
    Hopefully she will get rid of these extra kilos and be a slim beautiful girl
    Be careful... Fat is important for developing bodies, and for everyone.

    And, she still is a beautiful girl.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,874 Member
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    This all sadly sounds more like a parent projection her own issues and disordered thinking onto her child. If there was a health issue, I'm sure the pediatrician would have already chimed in and would have given ample advice as to how to deal with the situation.
  • Moxie42
    Moxie42 Posts: 1,400 Member
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    I'm sure your concerns come from love, and that you love your daughter no matter what she looks like. However, I feel like you (not just you specifically, but anyone) need to be very careful about how a sensitive topic like that is breached with a teenager. With a comment like "hopefully she will get rid of these extra kilos and be a slim beautiful girl," I'm sure you're thinking "I want her to be happy and healthy" but what she will hear is "I'm not skinny; therefore I am fat and ugly and worthless."

    When I was 14, I was a healthy 130 lbs (at 5'4") and very fit. But my mom made one tiny little comment she probably thought was harmless- "Have you thought about doing sit-ups?" and I distinctly remember looking at the scale and thinking, "I guess this is what it means to be fat..." I remember feeling SO disappointed...like I had learned something bad about myself that I had never considered before. It never occurred to me that that wasn't the message she meant to send. I was humiliated that she saw the number, that she knew how fat I was, that other people might know. So I kept it my dirty little secret, and I did whatever it took to lose weight- starving, purging, ephedrine, obsessive exercise...I dropped to 110 lbs in only a month (and still thought I was fat!) My parents assumed it was from eating healthy and being on two swim teams. They were impressed! They never asked for details, and I never shared them.

    My point is, we didn't COMMUNICATE. There were no talks about health or nutrition, about self-worth, or about what a number on a scale does or doesn't mean. The self-hatred I felt had other, even worse, consequences. And now it hardly even matters that logically I know my worth isn't dependent on my weight, or that weight loss can (and should) happen gradually and healthily...knowing that doesn't change how I FEEL, and those feelings are from a lifetime of believing my weight and my worth were one in the same.

    Anyway, I'm sure you are a wonderful and caring mother. But put yourself in her shoes, in the shoes of a teenage girl, and try to be very careful about how to approach the subject with her. Others have had great suggestions- focusing on healthy choices, signing her up for an activity...those are much more positive ways to send the message across, things that would make her feel GOOD...as opposed to focusing on "kilos" and "slimness" and "beauty"- things that are likely to provoke negative feelings.

    Wishing you the best of luck! I know it's a very difficult and stressful situation to be in.