Added sugar vs. natural sugars in daily total?
smacznaherbata
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Are the sugar totals based on added sugars and natural sugars like those in fruits etc., or just added sugars?
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All sugar.
A lot of people, including myself, just track something else.
No need to track unless you have a medical condition limiting sugar.2 -
I don't worry about my sugar intake. Unless you have medical reason don't worry about it.2
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MFP is designed to track total sugars.
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Both. Because as far as your body is concerned they are the same substance (because they are, indeed, the same substance).6
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Yep both, I track my sugar as I don't want to eat too much sugar, from whatever source.2
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Total sugars because your body doesn't differentiate. You obviously get other nutrients along with the sugar when you're eating fruit and veg vs drinking a soda...but your body doesn't differentiate between that sugar and added sugar.2
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I don't worry about my sugar intake. Unless you have medical reason don't worry about it.
No offense, but this isn't very good advice. Most people consume way too much sugar. If the sugar comes from 10 chocolate bars or 20 apples it is still excessive. You may not have a medical reason to worry about it now but if you continue to eat it in excess you will develop one.14 -
I don't worry about my sugar intake. Unless you have medical reason don't worry about it.
No offense, but this isn't very good advice. Most people consume way too much sugar. If the sugar comes from 10 chocolate bars or 20 apples it is still excessive. You may not have a medical reason to worry about it now but if you continue to eat it in excess you will develop one.
Totally agree. A lot of people still think they can eat as much sugar as they want because it's from fruit rather than processed.3 -
I don't worry about my sugar intake. Unless you have medical reason don't worry about it.
No offense, but this isn't very good advice. Most people consume way too much sugar. If the sugar comes from 10 chocolate bars or 20 apples it is still excessive. You may not have a medical reason to worry about it now but if you continue to eat it in excess you will develop one.
I don't eat 10 chocolate bars or 20 apples, nor do I eat sugar in excessive. Moderation is what I do within my calories. I usually have less then 70 grams a day.
When I say don't worry about it I mean I don't track it.
ETA: If I ate 20 apples I would be in the emergency room with a terrible stomach ache.3 -
I don't worry about my sugar intake. Unless you have medical reason don't worry about it.
No offense, but this isn't very good advice. Most people consume way too much sugar. If the sugar comes from 10 chocolate bars or 20 apples it is still excessive. You may not have a medical reason to worry about it now but if you continue to eat it in excess you will develop one.
Most people don't eat so much fruit that it's an issue. Too much would mean that you weren't getting in adequate protein, healthy fats, vegetables or exceeding your calories. Could you do that and eat 20 apples? Probably not, but I personally wouldn't ever be at risk of eating 20 apples in a day (or 10 chocolate bars, for that matter) -- the apples would be far too filling and I'd get bored and want something else.
The sugar limit is all sugars, since nutrition labels don't differentiate, but it is really MFP's compromise with the lower "added sugar" limits and the absence of any evidenced-based "total sugar" limit. The entities who recommend the lower "added sugar" limits make it clear that the reasons for them is not that sugar beyond that amount is harmful, but that people consume too much added sugar, on average, and that correlates too overly high calories and inadequate nutrition (many items with added sugar being easy to overeat, high in cals (often from fat), and low in micronutrients).
For these reasons, the "sugar" limit is an estimate of how much sugar the average person should eat, assuming an average amount of intrinsic sugar. If someone eats more due to lots of fruit and veg, but is within their carb limit and getting plenty of protein and other nutrients, there's no credible evidence that says it is something to worry about, absent doctor's advice (and typically the relevant health issues, like T2D, focus more on overall carbs and balance).2 -
I don't worry about my sugar intake. Unless you have medical reason don't worry about it.
No offense, but this isn't very good advice. Most people consume way too much sugar. If the sugar comes from 10 chocolate bars or 20 apples it is still excessive. You may not have a medical reason to worry about it now but if you continue to eat it in excess you will develop one.
Is there no common sense in the world anymore.
20 apples would bring many of us close to, if not over our calorie limit for the day.
Use the recommend servings per day and you will be just fine for people with no issues with sugar re: their health.
Sheesh
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I don't worry about my sugar intake. Unless you have medical reason don't worry about it.
No offense, but this isn't very good advice. Most people consume way too much sugar. If the sugar comes from 10 chocolate bars or 20 apples it is still excessive. You may not have a medical reason to worry about it now but if you continue to eat it in excess you will develop one.
Excess anything can be part of a cause to develop a health issue. But letting extreme examples to define a norm is not beneficial. Total dietary context is the only thing that matters.7 -
I don't worry about my sugar intake. Unless you have medical reason don't worry about it.
No offense, but this isn't very good advice. Most people consume way too much sugar. If the sugar comes from 10 chocolate bars or 20 apples it is still excessive. You may not have a medical reason to worry about it now but if you continue to eat it in excess you will develop one.
There is no reason for healthy individuals to track sugar intake.
Sure, too much of anything can be harmful (even water) but the paranoia surrounding sugar is unfounded.3 -
Come on you guys, 10 chocolate bars and 20 apples were obviously extreme examples just meant to show that too much sugar both in "natural" and "unnatural" forms can be harmful.3
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Come on you guys, 10 chocolate bars and 20 apples were obviously extreme examples just meant to show that too much sugar both in "natural" and "unnatural" forms can be harmful.
And the guys told you that it's pretty much impossible to get excess sugar if you're restricting calories and even have the slightest idea of what a healthy diet looks like.5 -
The problem though is that a lot of people aren't eating a healthy diet to begin with, and in a lot of those cases their sugar consumption is excessive. I believe that's what she's referring to.stevencloser wrote: »Come on you guys, 10 chocolate bars and 20 apples were obviously extreme examples just meant to show that too much sugar both in "natural" and "unnatural" forms can be harmful.
And the guys told you that it's pretty much impossible to get excess sugar if you're restricting caloriesand even have the slightest idea of what a healthy diet looks like.
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snowflake930 wrote: »I don't worry about my sugar intake. Unless you have medical reason don't worry about it.
No offense, but this isn't very good advice. Most people consume way too much sugar. If the sugar comes from 10 chocolate bars or 20 apples it is still excessive. You may not have a medical reason to worry about it now but if you continue to eat it in excess you will develop one.
Is there no common sense in the world anymore.
20 apples would bring many of us close to, if not over our calorie limit for the day.
Use the recommend servings per day and you will be just fine for people with no issues with sugar re: their health.
Sheesh
Thank you.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Come on you guys, 10 chocolate bars and 20 apples were obviously extreme examples just meant to show that too much sugar both in "natural" and "unnatural" forms can be harmful.
And the guys told you that it's pretty much impossible to get excess sugar if you're restricting calories and even have the slightest idea of what a healthy diet looks like.
A "healthy individual" as one person mentioned doesn't necessarily mean someone that is following a healthy diet.0 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »
The problem though is that a lot of people aren't eating a healthy diet to begin with, and in a lot of those cases their sugar consumption is excessive. I believe that's what she's referring to.stevencloser wrote: »Come on you guys, 10 chocolate bars and 20 apples were obviously extreme examples just meant to show that too much sugar both in "natural" and "unnatural" forms can be harmful.
And the guys told you that it's pretty much impossible to get excess sugar if you're restricting caloriesand even have the slightest idea of what a healthy diet looks like.
Thank you
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ForecasterJason wrote: »
The problem though is that a lot of people aren't eating a healthy diet to begin with, and in a lot of those cases their sugar consumption is excessive. I believe that's what she's referring to.stevencloser wrote: »Come on you guys, 10 chocolate bars and 20 apples were obviously extreme examples just meant to show that too much sugar both in "natural" and "unnatural" forms can be harmful.
And the guys told you that it's pretty much impossible to get excess sugar if you're restricting caloriesand even have the slightest idea of what a healthy diet looks like.
Are you implying the OP has an unhealthy diet? Because there's absolutely NOTHING to imply she does or is eating excessive amounts of sugar.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »ForecasterJason wrote: »
The problem though is that a lot of people aren't eating a healthy diet to begin with, and in a lot of those cases their sugar consumption is excessive. I believe that's what she's referring to.stevencloser wrote: »Come on you guys, 10 chocolate bars and 20 apples were obviously extreme examples just meant to show that too much sugar both in "natural" and "unnatural" forms can be harmful.
And the guys told you that it's pretty much impossible to get excess sugar if you're restricting caloriesand even have the slightest idea of what a healthy diet looks like.
Are you implying the OP has an unhealthy diet? Because there's absolutely NOTHING to imply she does or is eating excessive amounts of sugar.
No I'm not. My original comment wasn't really about the OP post it was about whether or not you should track sugar. Lots of people aren't aware of the amount of sugar that is in thing's like fruit. My point was just that sugar is sugar no matter the source.2 -
Sugar is a health issue for everyone. It's just not well known.
Sugar from unrefined sources like fruit is processed very differently in real life than added sugar. That's because nobody eats 20 apples. But it's easy to eat the equivalent in baked goods or candy.1 -
Come on you guys, 10 chocolate bars and 20 apples were obviously extreme examples just meant to show that too much sugar both in "natural" and "unnatural" forms can be harmful.
Sure but extreme examples don't prove anything because most people with some semblance of common sense don't eat like that...5 -
ForecasterJason wrote: »
The problem though is that a lot of people aren't eating a healthy diet to begin with, and in a lot of those cases their sugar consumption is excessive. I believe that's what she's referring to.stevencloser wrote: »Come on you guys, 10 chocolate bars and 20 apples were obviously extreme examples just meant to show that too much sugar both in "natural" and "unnatural" forms can be harmful.
And the guys told you that it's pretty much impossible to get excess sugar if you're restricting caloriesand even have the slightest idea of what a healthy diet looks like.
You keep referring to "a lot of people" in your posts. I don't imagine the majority of people on MFP do that. Further, people who do that have other issues regarding food. The point is, it is not the food but the manner in which it is consumed.5 -
Come on you guys, 10 chocolate bars and 20 apples were obviously extreme examples just meant to show that too much sugar both in "natural" and "unnatural" forms can be harmful.
Right. But if people are tracking calories and not eating to excess like your example, there isn't really a reason to worry about sugar unless the person has a medical condition requiring them to limit their intake. Which is what she said.5 -
I personally do not track sugar, I track fiber...2
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What would be classed as excessive sugar consumption? I'm thinking anything over 80g a day..0
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Come on you guys, 10 chocolate bars and 20 apples were obviously extreme examples just meant to show that too much sugar both in "natural" and "unnatural" forms can be harmful.
Too much of anything is extreme. Fact is, your body needs sugar and it occurs naturally in a lot of food. All things in moderation, portion control and balance will work for most people.
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Christine_72 wrote: »What would be classed as excessive sugar consumption? I'm thinking anything over 80g a day..
So far for today I am at 103grams of sugar and my fiber is at 42grams. I am not concerned...3 -
Christine_72 wrote: »What would be classed as excessive sugar consumption? I'm thinking anything over 80g a day..
So far for today I am at 103grams of sugar and my fiber is at 42grams. I am not concerned...
That was just a top of my head number. I just went back and had a look at my numbers, and i average between 25-60 a day. I don't consciously limit sugar, but I'm sure i could double those numbers if I ate a ton of fruit.0
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