4 Politically Correct Fitness Lies

sunnybeaches105
sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
edited December 1 in Motivation and Support
My guess is that this will resonate with some and upset others. Then again, that could describe every post on here, so here you go.

Even though I'm growing tired of any reference to "PC," be it positive or negative, I thought this was worth a read, and I generally like what Dani Shugart has to say. I particularly enjoyed the point about self esteem. "Need a self-esteem boost? Do something worthy of esteem. Do work."

https://www.t-nation.com/powerful-words/4-politically-correct-fitness-lies
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  • tulips_and_tea
    tulips_and_tea Posts: 5,744 Member
    Good article. I agree with it. Regardless of the topic there is no one-best-method or way of thinking for every one and every situation.

    I JUST used the "never compare yourself to others" phrase in a post just a while ago, but it was in regard to how much you sweat compared to others, so that was an unequal comparison. Comparison is good when it is approached from a mentally healthy state and if it encourages you to try harder.
  • hstoblish
    hstoblish Posts: 234 Member
    Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.

    I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.
  • positivepowers
    positivepowers Posts: 902 Member
    I LOVE #2! I've been saying this for years and been told to shut up! It's true, if we didn't judge people we would have close relationships with everyone we meet, and we don't.

    #1 is also golden. Instead of forcing yourself to love your body unconditionally, change it so you can love it.
  • sunnybeaches105
    sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
    hstoblish wrote: »
    Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.

    I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.

    I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational
  • azulvioleta6
    azulvioleta6 Posts: 4,195 Member
    Sounds about right!
  • hstoblish
    hstoblish Posts: 234 Member
    hstoblish wrote: »
    Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.

    I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.

    I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational

    I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.
  • DorkothyParker
    DorkothyParker Posts: 618 Member
    Wow, lots of Slut Shaming happening. Laaaaaaaaaame.
  • hstoblish
    hstoblish Posts: 234 Member
    Wow, lots of Slut Shaming happening. Laaaaaaaaaame.

    Are you sure you're not just "modest shaming?" /sarcasm.
  • sunnybeaches105
    sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
    edited May 2016
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.

    I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.

    I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational

    I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.

    meh - people judge. I find that self proclaimed victims judge more than others while simultaneously whining about being judged. At least the author owns it. She's certainly earned her opinions about fitness
  • hstoblish
    hstoblish Posts: 234 Member
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.

    I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.

    I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational

    I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.

    meh - people judge. I find that self proclaimed victims judge more than others while simultaneously whining about being judged. At least the author owns it. She's certainly earned her opinions about fitness

    I think there is a while victim, perpetrator cycle that is hard to break unless you just want to step out of it and shrug it off. Personally, I don't feel judged by the article, because I don't actually do the things he's talking about here - aside from the fact that I try to come at fitness from a place of love/self care instead of punishing myself for somehow having a body wrong. And if someone wants to judge me for that, I really don't care. That's their own issue and probably has nothing to do with me. However, if someone wants to blast someone else for having confidence, I'll stand up to that because, how is a fat person being comfortable in their body an actual problem? And who benefits from knocking that person down a peg? I'm just sick of he whole cycle.

    From the title I was hoping they'd talk about some of the weird differences between prioritizing cardio or weightlifting, or the fact that diet soda isn't all that bad for you etc. Normally I just don't click, but this time I did and now I just need to shake it off and move on.
  • sunnybeaches105
    sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.

    I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.

    I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational

    I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.

    meh - people judge. I find that self proclaimed victims judge more than others while simultaneously whining about being judged. At least the author owns it. She's certainly earned her opinions about fitness

    I think there is a while victim, perpetrator cycle that is hard to break unless you just want to step out of it and shrug it off. Personally, I don't feel judged by the article, because I don't actually do the things he's talking about here - aside from the fact that I try to come at fitness from a place of love/self care instead of punishing myself for somehow having a body wrong. And if someone wants to judge me for that, I really don't care. That's their own issue and probably has nothing to do with me. However, if someone wants to blast someone else for having confidence, I'll stand up to that because, how is a fat person being comfortable in their body an actual problem? And who benefits from knocking that person down a peg? I'm just sick of he whole cycle.

    From the title I was hoping they'd talk about some of the weird differences between prioritizing cardio or weightlifting, or the fact that diet soda isn't all that bad for you etc. Normally I just don't click, but this time I did and now I just need to shake it off and move on.

    The article seems to have struck a nerve.
  • hstoblish
    hstoblish Posts: 234 Member
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.

    I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.

    I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational

    I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.

    meh - people judge. I find that self proclaimed victims judge more than others while simultaneously whining about being judged. At least the author owns it. She's certainly earned her opinions about fitness

    I think there is a while victim, perpetrator cycle that is hard to break unless you just want to step out of it and shrug it off. Personally, I don't feel judged by the article, because I don't actually do the things he's talking about here - aside from the fact that I try to come at fitness from a place of love/self care instead of punishing myself for somehow having a body wrong. And if someone wants to judge me for that, I really don't care. That's their own issue and probably has nothing to do with me. However, if someone wants to blast someone else for having confidence, I'll stand up to that because, how is a fat person being comfortable in their body an actual problem? And who benefits from knocking that person down a peg? I'm just sick of he whole cycle.

    From the title I was hoping they'd talk about some of the weird differences between prioritizing cardio or weightlifting, or the fact that diet soda isn't all that bad for you etc. Normally I just don't click, but this time I did and now I just need to shake it off and move on.

    The article seems to have struck a nerve.

    I'm mostly just at home and bored.
  • sunnybeaches105
    sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.

    I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.

    I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational

    I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.

    meh - people judge. I find that self proclaimed victims judge more than others while simultaneously whining about being judged. At least the author owns it. She's certainly earned her opinions about fitness

    I think there is a while victim, perpetrator cycle that is hard to break unless you just want to step out of it and shrug it off. Personally, I don't feel judged by the article, because I don't actually do the things he's talking about here - aside from the fact that I try to come at fitness from a place of love/self care instead of punishing myself for somehow having a body wrong. And if someone wants to judge me for that, I really don't care. That's their own issue and probably has nothing to do with me. However, if someone wants to blast someone else for having confidence, I'll stand up to that because, how is a fat person being comfortable in their body an actual problem? And who benefits from knocking that person down a peg? I'm just sick of he whole cycle.

    From the title I was hoping they'd talk about some of the weird differences between prioritizing cardio or weightlifting, or the fact that diet soda isn't all that bad for you etc. Normally I just don't click, but this time I did and now I just need to shake it off and move on.

    The article seems to have struck a nerve.

    I'm mostly just at home and bored.

    lol - you and me both

    Heading out for legs day though
  • hstoblish
    hstoblish Posts: 234 Member
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.

    I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.

    I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational

    I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.

    meh - people judge. I find that self proclaimed victims judge more than others while simultaneously whining about being judged. At least the author owns it. She's certainly earned her opinions about fitness

    I think there is a while victim, perpetrator cycle that is hard to break unless you just want to step out of it and shrug it off. Personally, I don't feel judged by the article, because I don't actually do the things he's talking about here - aside from the fact that I try to come at fitness from a place of love/self care instead of punishing myself for somehow having a body wrong. And if someone wants to judge me for that, I really don't care. That's their own issue and probably has nothing to do with me. However, if someone wants to blast someone else for having confidence, I'll stand up to that because, how is a fat person being comfortable in their body an actual problem? And who benefits from knocking that person down a peg? I'm just sick of he whole cycle.

    From the title I was hoping they'd talk about some of the weird differences between prioritizing cardio or weightlifting, or the fact that diet soda isn't all that bad for you etc. Normally I just don't click, but this time I did and now I just need to shake it off and move on.

    The article seems to have struck a nerve.

    I'm mostly just at home and bored.

    lol - you and me both

    Heading out for legs day though

    Smart! I might go for a run when someone else can watch the kids. Get away from the screens.
  • sunnybeaches105
    sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.

    I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.

    I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational

    I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.

    meh - people judge. I find that self proclaimed victims judge more than others while simultaneously whining about being judged. At least the author owns it. She's certainly earned her opinions about fitness

    I think there is a while victim, perpetrator cycle that is hard to break unless you just want to step out of it and shrug it off. Personally, I don't feel judged by the article, because I don't actually do the things he's talking about here - aside from the fact that I try to come at fitness from a place of love/self care instead of punishing myself for somehow having a body wrong. And if someone wants to judge me for that, I really don't care. That's their own issue and probably has nothing to do with me. However, if someone wants to blast someone else for having confidence, I'll stand up to that because, how is a fat person being comfortable in their body an actual problem? And who benefits from knocking that person down a peg? I'm just sick of he whole cycle.

    From the title I was hoping they'd talk about some of the weird differences between prioritizing cardio or weightlifting, or the fact that diet soda isn't all that bad for you etc. Normally I just don't click, but this time I did and now I just need to shake it off and move on.

    The article seems to have struck a nerve.

    I'm mostly just at home and bored.

    lol - you and me both

    Heading out for legs day though

    Smart! I might go for a run when someone else can watch the kids. Get away from the screens.

    Agreed. I swear the forums can be counterproductive to, you know? Actual exercise.
  • shank35l
    shank35l Posts: 102 Member
    Great article I think.
  • hstoblish
    hstoblish Posts: 234 Member
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    hstoblish wrote: »
    Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.

    I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.

    I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational

    I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.

    meh - people judge. I find that self proclaimed victims judge more than others while simultaneously whining about being judged. At least the author owns it. She's certainly earned her opinions about fitness

    I think there is a while victim, perpetrator cycle that is hard to break unless you just want to step out of it and shrug it off. Personally, I don't feel judged by the article, because I don't actually do the things he's talking about here - aside from the fact that I try to come at fitness from a place of love/self care instead of punishing myself for somehow having a body wrong. And if someone wants to judge me for that, I really don't care. That's their own issue and probably has nothing to do with me. However, if someone wants to blast someone else for having confidence, I'll stand up to that because, how is a fat person being comfortable in their body an actual problem? And who benefits from knocking that person down a peg? I'm just sick of he whole cycle.

    From the title I was hoping they'd talk about some of the weird differences between prioritizing cardio or weightlifting, or the fact that diet soda isn't all that bad for you etc. Normally I just don't click, but this time I did and now I just need to shake it off and move on.

    The article seems to have struck a nerve.

    I'm mostly just at home and bored.

    lol - you and me both

    Heading out for legs day though

    Smart! I might go for a run when someone else can watch the kids. Get away from the screens.

    Agreed. I swear the forums can be counterproductive to, you know? Actual exercise.

    Yes! After my last pregnancy I found the forums helpful, but this time I'm finding that to be less the case. I think it's just that this time, I know what I need to do and I just need to do it.
  • sashayoung72
    sashayoung72 Posts: 441 Member
    This "And if you're going to put Bible verses in your bio, maybe we shouldn't be seeing so much of your cervix." I think that's some of the most ridiculous crap on IG.
  • JustSomeEm
    JustSomeEm Posts: 20,284 MFP Moderator
    edited May 2016
    Wait - we got to see someone's cervix? AND a bible verse?
    9wjwu.jpg

    Anyway, Love this article - thanks for sharing. It's human nature to compare yourself to others. It's human nature to be critical of yourself. Those things CAN be good things, if we're using the comparisons to make ourselves better.

    BUT - all the PC 'self-love' crap comes from a 'good place', I think. Society shoves a very photo-shopped version of the 'ideal' at us. Learning to love ourselves even with imperfections is a good thing. I do agree that it's been taken a bit too far lately, though. A modest amount of modesty (ha) never hurt anyone.
  • rankinsect
    rankinsect Posts: 2,238 Member
    edited May 2016
    JustSomeEm wrote: »
    Wait - we got to see someone's cervix? AND a bible verse?

    I swear I was only reading it for the bible verse! :innocent:
  • deluxmary2000
    deluxmary2000 Posts: 981 Member
    I dunno - I disagreed with #1 right off the bat. I love my perfectly imperfect body, but it's not a lie that I tell myself to keep from progressing. My current personal motto about my body and fitness is "happy, but never satisfied." Meaning that I can love my body now and appreciate the hard work it's taken me to get to this (admittedly pretty average) fitness level, but there is always room for improvement and achievement. The two don't have to be mutually exclusive.
  • JaneSnowe
    JaneSnowe Posts: 1,283 Member
    This "And if you're going to put Bible verses in your bio, maybe we shouldn't be seeing so much of your cervix." I think that's some of the most ridiculous crap on IG.

    Wait--people actually put pictures of their cervices on IG?
  • callmecarina
    callmecarina Posts: 145 Member
    hstoblish wrote: »
    However, if someone wants to blast someone else for having confidence, I'll stand up to that because, how is a fat person being comfortable in their body an actual problem? And who benefits from knocking that person down a peg? I'm just sick of he whole cycle.

    This.

    Listen, it's awesome, and amazing what the human body is capable of. Virtually every single human is capable of getting fit, building muscle, and looking good. But the human mind is entirely another matter. The brain develops differently for every person. Some people do very well and get motivated with harsh criticism. Others shut down, and others still may have unbelievable traumas and experiences that they are dealing with that many other people are lucky to never experience.

    If someone else is happy with themselves, or even if they aren't, it's none of your business to tell them otherwise if they aren't asking for your opinion. You can't help someone that will not (or cannot) help themselves.

    The thing about people whining about not being able to say anything because is politically incorrect nowadays is that no one is thought policing you, and no one is telling you not to think it. They're telling you not to say the hurtful things aloud because it doesn't help anything. Often, it seems to me that people use it as an excuse to bully other people and feel superior (on a conscious or subconscious level, even mildly).

    That being said, I want it to be clear that this is directed at the author of the article, not you fine MFPers that so far seem to have to good sense to only promote positivity. :)
  • callmecarina
    callmecarina Posts: 145 Member
    One more thing I've noticed is that one argument often is "it's about their health. They're sucking up valuable resources in our healthcare system!" Few things that bug me about that.

    1) You cannot make a snap judgement about a person's health based on looks. You don't know that the health issue caused the weight gain in the first place (although it's often true, you still don't KNOW for certain.) There are people battling cancer that look totally "normal," and you can't tell. Don't judge a book...

    2) Why aren't people as passionate about smoking and alcohol. Those are both known to be detrimental to one's health, yet you don't have nearly the same amount of people preaching about the suck on the healthcare system, and the valuable police/ambulance resources they use up when they cause accidents and even death. I've never heard of someone dying because someone else is fat.

    Yes, you can judge. But it's taboo in society for a reason. No one like unsolicited preaching, and it's generally not helpful. When the student is ready, the master will appear. Any time before then, you're just being mean.
  • Oishii
    Oishii Posts: 2,675 Member
    I think the writer has probably willfully misunderstood a number of issues, or she is completely blind to the misery of others. You can want to change your body whilst also loving it, and it doesn't have to be the centre of your world for you to do so.

    I do agree with some of the content of what she says, but I don't find that tone motivating in the slightest. For example, judging someone for eating popcorn or going to a buffet is ridiculous. I realised at a buffet that some of the larger clients could probably only afford to eat out and reach their TDEE by eating at a buffet, but this is the UK where restaurant portions are smaller, as a rule. And you can eat moderately at a buffet, and you should never judge someone's eating on a single snap-shot. Either this woman isn't very bright or she's just looking for stupid people to agree with her.

    I could pick apart her logic for hours, but I'll let someone else have a go.
  • sunnybeaches105
    sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
    One more thing I've noticed is that one argument often is "it's about their health. They're sucking up valuable resources in our healthcare system!" Few things that bug me about that.

    1) You cannot make a snap judgement about a person's health based on looks. You don't know that the health issue caused the weight gain in the first place (although it's often true, you still don't KNOW for certain.) There are people battling cancer that look totally "normal," and you can't tell. Don't judge a book...

    2) Why aren't people as passionate about smoking and alcohol. Those are both known to be detrimental to one's health, yet you don't have nearly the same amount of people preaching about the suck on the healthcare system, and the valuable police/ambulance resources they use up when they cause accidents and even death. I've never heard of someone dying because someone else is fat.

    Yes, you can judge. But it's taboo in society for a reason. No one like unsolicited preaching, and it's generally not helpful. When the student is ready, the master will appear. Any time before then, you're just being mean.

    Huh? This seems way out of left field . . . I'm definitely judging, especially the cancer reference and that student master thing. Not mean. Just judging. Intentional non sequitur?

    Also, not sure where the healthcare, smoking, drinking thing came from. Not in the article. If someone is smoking around me though I'm judging. Feel better?

    Then again, I'm probably drinking so I can tolerate others while I'm judging them. I could certainly use one now.
  • Isabelle_1929
    Isabelle_1929 Posts: 233 Member
    "They like to brag about this idea too: "I only train for performance." Performing what? Mirror selfies? "

    :D
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    edited May 2016
    My guess is that this will resonate with some and upset others. Then again, that could describe every post on here, so here you go.

    Even though I'm growing tired of any reference to "PC," be it positive or negative, I thought this was worth a read, and I generally like what Dani Shugart has to say. I particularly enjoyed the point about self esteem. "Need a self-esteem boost? Do something worthy of esteem. Do work."

    https://www.t-nation.com/powerful-words/4-politically-correct-fitness-lies

    Dani has her act together. I like the bolded also.
  • sunnybeaches105
    sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
    As expected, some people have thicker skin than others.
  • callmecarina
    callmecarina Posts: 145 Member
    As expected, some people have thicker skin than others.

    Of course. That's the point, and I think that's why all this "PC" stuff was started to begin with.

    Not everyone is built that same way you are, and can take the criticisms in stride as you do. My previous posts were a long-winded explanation of that fact. The point is there's nothing wrong with people being more sensitive than you. Just because you don't experience feelings in the same way doesn't mean you can invalidate someone else's feelings. That's how Dani's article came off to me, which is unfortunate because she still did list some great advice.

    Good for Dani for being the healthiest person she can be! But as is the case with diet and exercise, in life and in general "your mileage may vary." :)
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