4 Politically Correct Fitness Lies
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sunnybeaches105
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My guess is that this will resonate with some and upset others. Then again, that could describe every post on here, so here you go.
Even though I'm growing tired of any reference to "PC," be it positive or negative, I thought this was worth a read, and I generally like what Dani Shugart has to say. I particularly enjoyed the point about self esteem. "Need a self-esteem boost? Do something worthy of esteem. Do work."
https://www.t-nation.com/powerful-words/4-politically-correct-fitness-lies
Even though I'm growing tired of any reference to "PC," be it positive or negative, I thought this was worth a read, and I generally like what Dani Shugart has to say. I particularly enjoyed the point about self esteem. "Need a self-esteem boost? Do something worthy of esteem. Do work."
https://www.t-nation.com/powerful-words/4-politically-correct-fitness-lies
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Good article. I agree with it. Regardless of the topic there is no one-best-method or way of thinking for every one and every situation.
I JUST used the "never compare yourself to others" phrase in a post just a while ago, but it was in regard to how much you sweat compared to others, so that was an unequal comparison. Comparison is good when it is approached from a mentally healthy state and if it encourages you to try harder.2 -
Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.
I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.3 -
I LOVE #2! I've been saying this for years and been told to shut up! It's true, if we didn't judge people we would have close relationships with everyone we meet, and we don't.
#1 is also golden. Instead of forcing yourself to love your body unconditionally, change it so you can love it.0 -
Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.
I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.
I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational0 -
Sounds about right!0
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sunnybeaches105 wrote: »Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.
I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.
I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational
I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.
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Wow, lots of Slut Shaming happening. Laaaaaaaaaame.3
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DorkothyParker wrote: »Wow, lots of Slut Shaming happening. Laaaaaaaaaame.
Are you sure you're not just "modest shaming?" /sarcasm.0 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.
I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.
I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational
I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.
meh - people judge. I find that self proclaimed victims judge more than others while simultaneously whining about being judged. At least the author owns it. She's certainly earned her opinions about fitness0 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.
I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.
I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational
I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.
meh - people judge. I find that self proclaimed victims judge more than others while simultaneously whining about being judged. At least the author owns it. She's certainly earned her opinions about fitness
I think there is a while victim, perpetrator cycle that is hard to break unless you just want to step out of it and shrug it off. Personally, I don't feel judged by the article, because I don't actually do the things he's talking about here - aside from the fact that I try to come at fitness from a place of love/self care instead of punishing myself for somehow having a body wrong. And if someone wants to judge me for that, I really don't care. That's their own issue and probably has nothing to do with me. However, if someone wants to blast someone else for having confidence, I'll stand up to that because, how is a fat person being comfortable in their body an actual problem? And who benefits from knocking that person down a peg? I'm just sick of he whole cycle.
From the title I was hoping they'd talk about some of the weird differences between prioritizing cardio or weightlifting, or the fact that diet soda isn't all that bad for you etc. Normally I just don't click, but this time I did and now I just need to shake it off and move on.0 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.
I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.
I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational
I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.
meh - people judge. I find that self proclaimed victims judge more than others while simultaneously whining about being judged. At least the author owns it. She's certainly earned her opinions about fitness
I think there is a while victim, perpetrator cycle that is hard to break unless you just want to step out of it and shrug it off. Personally, I don't feel judged by the article, because I don't actually do the things he's talking about here - aside from the fact that I try to come at fitness from a place of love/self care instead of punishing myself for somehow having a body wrong. And if someone wants to judge me for that, I really don't care. That's their own issue and probably has nothing to do with me. However, if someone wants to blast someone else for having confidence, I'll stand up to that because, how is a fat person being comfortable in their body an actual problem? And who benefits from knocking that person down a peg? I'm just sick of he whole cycle.
From the title I was hoping they'd talk about some of the weird differences between prioritizing cardio or weightlifting, or the fact that diet soda isn't all that bad for you etc. Normally I just don't click, but this time I did and now I just need to shake it off and move on.
The article seems to have struck a nerve.0 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.
I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.
I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational
I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.
meh - people judge. I find that self proclaimed victims judge more than others while simultaneously whining about being judged. At least the author owns it. She's certainly earned her opinions about fitness
I think there is a while victim, perpetrator cycle that is hard to break unless you just want to step out of it and shrug it off. Personally, I don't feel judged by the article, because I don't actually do the things he's talking about here - aside from the fact that I try to come at fitness from a place of love/self care instead of punishing myself for somehow having a body wrong. And if someone wants to judge me for that, I really don't care. That's their own issue and probably has nothing to do with me. However, if someone wants to blast someone else for having confidence, I'll stand up to that because, how is a fat person being comfortable in their body an actual problem? And who benefits from knocking that person down a peg? I'm just sick of he whole cycle.
From the title I was hoping they'd talk about some of the weird differences between prioritizing cardio or weightlifting, or the fact that diet soda isn't all that bad for you etc. Normally I just don't click, but this time I did and now I just need to shake it off and move on.
The article seems to have struck a nerve.
I'm mostly just at home and bored.0 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.
I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.
I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational
I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.
meh - people judge. I find that self proclaimed victims judge more than others while simultaneously whining about being judged. At least the author owns it. She's certainly earned her opinions about fitness
I think there is a while victim, perpetrator cycle that is hard to break unless you just want to step out of it and shrug it off. Personally, I don't feel judged by the article, because I don't actually do the things he's talking about here - aside from the fact that I try to come at fitness from a place of love/self care instead of punishing myself for somehow having a body wrong. And if someone wants to judge me for that, I really don't care. That's their own issue and probably has nothing to do with me. However, if someone wants to blast someone else for having confidence, I'll stand up to that because, how is a fat person being comfortable in their body an actual problem? And who benefits from knocking that person down a peg? I'm just sick of he whole cycle.
From the title I was hoping they'd talk about some of the weird differences between prioritizing cardio or weightlifting, or the fact that diet soda isn't all that bad for you etc. Normally I just don't click, but this time I did and now I just need to shake it off and move on.
The article seems to have struck a nerve.
I'm mostly just at home and bored.
lol - you and me both
Heading out for legs day though0 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.
I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.
I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational
I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.
meh - people judge. I find that self proclaimed victims judge more than others while simultaneously whining about being judged. At least the author owns it. She's certainly earned her opinions about fitness
I think there is a while victim, perpetrator cycle that is hard to break unless you just want to step out of it and shrug it off. Personally, I don't feel judged by the article, because I don't actually do the things he's talking about here - aside from the fact that I try to come at fitness from a place of love/self care instead of punishing myself for somehow having a body wrong. And if someone wants to judge me for that, I really don't care. That's their own issue and probably has nothing to do with me. However, if someone wants to blast someone else for having confidence, I'll stand up to that because, how is a fat person being comfortable in their body an actual problem? And who benefits from knocking that person down a peg? I'm just sick of he whole cycle.
From the title I was hoping they'd talk about some of the weird differences between prioritizing cardio or weightlifting, or the fact that diet soda isn't all that bad for you etc. Normally I just don't click, but this time I did and now I just need to shake it off and move on.
The article seems to have struck a nerve.
I'm mostly just at home and bored.
lol - you and me both
Heading out for legs day though
Smart! I might go for a run when someone else can watch the kids. Get away from the screens.0 -
sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.
I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.
I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational
I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.
meh - people judge. I find that self proclaimed victims judge more than others while simultaneously whining about being judged. At least the author owns it. She's certainly earned her opinions about fitness
I think there is a while victim, perpetrator cycle that is hard to break unless you just want to step out of it and shrug it off. Personally, I don't feel judged by the article, because I don't actually do the things he's talking about here - aside from the fact that I try to come at fitness from a place of love/self care instead of punishing myself for somehow having a body wrong. And if someone wants to judge me for that, I really don't care. That's their own issue and probably has nothing to do with me. However, if someone wants to blast someone else for having confidence, I'll stand up to that because, how is a fat person being comfortable in their body an actual problem? And who benefits from knocking that person down a peg? I'm just sick of he whole cycle.
From the title I was hoping they'd talk about some of the weird differences between prioritizing cardio or weightlifting, or the fact that diet soda isn't all that bad for you etc. Normally I just don't click, but this time I did and now I just need to shake it off and move on.
The article seems to have struck a nerve.
I'm mostly just at home and bored.
lol - you and me both
Heading out for legs day though
Smart! I might go for a run when someone else can watch the kids. Get away from the screens.
Agreed. I swear the forums can be counterproductive to, you know? Actual exercise.0 -
Great article I think.0
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sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »sunnybeaches105 wrote: »Meh, I disagreed with most of it. It's entirely possible to love your own body without broadcasting it (I agree that it comes across as false when shouted from the rooftops, hit that's not my own battle). I've literally never said this out loud, but the advice to work out because you love your body rather than because you hate it, really helped me. And "modesty shaming" made me laugh my *kitten* off. It's coo, with me if you want to flaunt what you've got and it's cool with me if you don't. Personally, selfies etc aren't my thing, but there are so many bigger problems in the world than young women who think they're pretty taking photos of themselves.
I don't know... Usually I like T-nation but this felt like click bait, though there were a couple of good points, like on competition etc.
I think we put our own emphasis on different parts. I suppose that's the norm with anything motivational
I think so too. For me, this didn't resonate, but clearly others found it helpful. Personally, I just found this had less to do with fitness and more to do with justifying judging people who take a different approach.
meh - people judge. I find that self proclaimed victims judge more than others while simultaneously whining about being judged. At least the author owns it. She's certainly earned her opinions about fitness
I think there is a while victim, perpetrator cycle that is hard to break unless you just want to step out of it and shrug it off. Personally, I don't feel judged by the article, because I don't actually do the things he's talking about here - aside from the fact that I try to come at fitness from a place of love/self care instead of punishing myself for somehow having a body wrong. And if someone wants to judge me for that, I really don't care. That's their own issue and probably has nothing to do with me. However, if someone wants to blast someone else for having confidence, I'll stand up to that because, how is a fat person being comfortable in their body an actual problem? And who benefits from knocking that person down a peg? I'm just sick of he whole cycle.
From the title I was hoping they'd talk about some of the weird differences between prioritizing cardio or weightlifting, or the fact that diet soda isn't all that bad for you etc. Normally I just don't click, but this time I did and now I just need to shake it off and move on.
The article seems to have struck a nerve.
I'm mostly just at home and bored.
lol - you and me both
Heading out for legs day though
Smart! I might go for a run when someone else can watch the kids. Get away from the screens.
Agreed. I swear the forums can be counterproductive to, you know? Actual exercise.
Yes! After my last pregnancy I found the forums helpful, but this time I'm finding that to be less the case. I think it's just that this time, I know what I need to do and I just need to do it.0 -
This "And if you're going to put Bible verses in your bio, maybe we shouldn't be seeing so much of your cervix." I think that's some of the most ridiculous crap on IG.0
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Wait - we got to see someone's cervix? AND a bible verse?
Anyway, Love this article - thanks for sharing. It's human nature to compare yourself to others. It's human nature to be critical of yourself. Those things CAN be good things, if we're using the comparisons to make ourselves better.
BUT - all the PC 'self-love' crap comes from a 'good place', I think. Society shoves a very photo-shopped version of the 'ideal' at us. Learning to love ourselves even with imperfections is a good thing. I do agree that it's been taken a bit too far lately, though. A modest amount of modesty (ha) never hurt anyone.2 -
JustSomeEm wrote: »Wait - we got to see someone's cervix? AND a bible verse?
I swear I was only reading it for the bible verse!
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