SUGAR - The culprit!
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LisaClifford731 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
I can't imagine buying so much stuff with labels that it would take that long to read them, and I'm about as far from a clean eater as one could find. My main packaged stuff are things I'm very familiar with, like plain yogurt, smoked salmon, dried pasta, dried and canned beans, canned tomatoes (out of season), and steel cut oats. Oh, and the protein powder I like and use occasionally. Other than a tiny bit used for making the smoked salmon and, of course, the lactose in the yogurt, none of this has sugar.
I do buy fancy chocolates from a restaurant near my office that sells local artisan and European chocolates. Those, of course, have sugar. Oh, and ice cream/gelato sometimes.
Ok. I was exaggerating the amount of time. Thought thatchers obvious. I too, eat clean (about 90/10) so if I'm wrong about anything I've said here, I beg of all of you "experts" try educating someone before insulting them.
Now I remember why I don't EVER come to these boards.
Don't take it so personal. It took me about one post on here after my 3 year sabbatical to find out that I need to back up my statements with actual facts not just anecdotal "this worked for me" comments.1 -
LisaClifford731 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
I can't imagine buying so much stuff with labels that it would take that long to read them, and I'm about as far from a clean eater as one could find. My main packaged stuff are things I'm very familiar with, like plain yogurt, smoked salmon, dried pasta, dried and canned beans, canned tomatoes (out of season), and steel cut oats. Oh, and the protein powder I like and use occasionally. Other than a tiny bit used for making the smoked salmon and, of course, the lactose in the yogurt, none of this has sugar.
I do buy fancy chocolates from a restaurant near my office that sells local artisan and European chocolates. Those, of course, have sugar. Oh, and ice cream/gelato sometimes.
Ok. I was exaggerating the amount of time. Thought thatchers obvious. I too, eat clean (about 90/10) so if I'm wrong about anything I've said here, I beg of all of you "experts" try educating someone before insulting them.
Now I remember why I don't EVER come to these boards.
I think you're taking this out of hand. No one was insulting, they were commenting.5 -
Is it Friday?
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LisaClifford731 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
I can't imagine buying so much stuff with labels that it would take that long to read them, and I'm about as far from a clean eater as one could find. My main packaged stuff are things I'm very familiar with, like plain yogurt, smoked salmon, dried pasta, dried and canned beans, canned tomatoes (out of season), and steel cut oats. Oh, and the protein powder I like and use occasionally. Other than a tiny bit used for making the smoked salmon and, of course, the lactose in the yogurt, none of this has sugar.
I do buy fancy chocolates from a restaurant near my office that sells local artisan and European chocolates. Those, of course, have sugar. Oh, and ice cream/gelato sometimes.
Ok. I was exaggerating the amount of time. Thought thatchers obvious. I too, eat clean (about 90/10) so if I'm wrong about anything I've said here, I beg of all of you "experts" try educating someone before insulting them.
Now I remember why I don't EVER come to these boards.
How was that insulting in any way?2 -
LisaClifford731 wrote: »Is anyone else watching their sugar intake? I've been tracking my sugar like a bloodhound and have noticed significant losses (approx 2 lbs a week) and other changes - such as sleeping better, MORE energy (if you could believe that? and I generally don't feel like crap anymore.
Anyone else have these experiences?
I have these same experiences from the things I added to my lifestyle rather than things I restricted. I took that approach to MFP, continuing to eat the foods I enjoy in moderation (including sugar) but focusing on adding things: more lean protein, more vegetables, more whole grains, more exercise, more sleep.
As a result I found achieving my weight loss goal (30 lbs) to be a simple and enjoyable process (now in maintenance) and have also experienced what you describe: more energy, sleep better, don't feel like crap.
Yeah!
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It's because you came on here like you'd discovered some big new diet secret that you were sharing with the world when in fact it is simply untrue that sugar is "the culprit" that causes weight gain. People are commenting so that others reading it get a proper perspective. PS I'm enjoying my lovely non-fat latte full of calcium with (gasp) 14 grams of sugar naturally found in the milk. Btw I've lost 77 lbs in a little over a year.5
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This sounds more like the new Weight Watchers program. No sugar/carbs, and if you do you are going to pay for it with points. I was doing well on their point plus program eating what I wanted staying within my points. That is why I'm over here now . Counting calories. I could eat three hot fudge sundaes a day and still lose . I'm in the camp that it is calories in calories out. Sure to much of anything is not good. So if you are going to live normal , what ever that is, you should be able to work all food croups into your diet.
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I think too many people are conflating what the OP said.
OP seems to just be happy to have discovered what in her diet was causing certain symptoms. Excess simple sugars is known to cause boosts of energy and then crashes of low energy.
OP: Glad you identified what was causing your low energy and sleeping problems. Sugar would indeed be a culprit in that.10 -
biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Most likely not. It probably has more to do with overconsumption of food due to low satiety of sugary snacks.LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
This is entirely untrue. Insulin production is a perfectly healthy bodily response. It does not put your body into defensive mode.
FYI: protein also spikes insulin. I wouldn't suggest eliminating protein from your diet.
Cherries are chock full of simple carbs.Yes, I've greatly reduced the sugar in my meals & snacks. Right now in the fridge, I have cherries--- they're delicious but I won't eat simple carbs and rarely eat processed foods. Saying goodbye to sugar has been a huge help overall.
There's nothing wrong with glucose. In fact, it's so vital for life that if you don't eat enough of it your liver will begin to produce it.I cut way back on sugar, and my total carbs too since they are converted to glucose (sugar) in the blood. My sugar intake is always belw 10g per day; often belw 5g. I feel so much better eating this way that I have no plans to ever go back to higher sugar or higher carbs.
Quite honestly, the hardest part about giving up sugar was the anticipation - just thinking about it. Doing it wasn't too hard after a couple of days.
Glad you are feeling better.
Also, protein not utilized for muscle protein synthesis will also be converted into glucose.LisaClifford731 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
I can't imagine buying so much stuff with labels that it would take that long to read them, and I'm about as far from a clean eater as one could find. My main packaged stuff are things I'm very familiar with, like plain yogurt, smoked salmon, dried pasta, dried and canned beans, canned tomatoes (out of season), and steel cut oats. Oh, and the protein powder I like and use occasionally. Other than a tiny bit used for making the smoked salmon and, of course, the lactose in the yogurt, none of this has sugar.
I do buy fancy chocolates from a restaurant near my office that sells local artisan and European chocolates. Those, of course, have sugar. Oh, and ice cream/gelato sometimes.
Ok. I was exaggerating the amount of time. Thought thatchers obvious. I too, eat clean (about 90/10) so if I'm wrong about anything I've said here, I beg of all of you "experts" try educating someone before insulting them.
Now I remember why I don't EVER come to these boards.
No one insulted anyone.
Maybe do what my parents told me as a kid and put your feelings away so they don't get stepped on.17 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »Maybe do what my parents told me as a kid and put your feelings away so they don't get stepped on.
Brilliant!
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Sugar is the culprit?
This is me, (11th post down) eating 'clean' vegetarian with 'no sugar'....
First post in the 'after' picture is me including sugar, not eating clean (nutritious foods plus treats)
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10390604/84lbs-down-more-than-half-way-there
I'm seriously over this 'sugar is bad, m'kay' debate.
Demonizing foods is bad.6 -
LisaClifford731 wrote: »Are you restricting all carbohydrates? And if just "sugar", are you specifically referring to sucrose, fructose or glucose?
I ask because your body converts most carbs into glucose and stores it in the muscles or liver. Fruit contains high levels of fructose, and I wouldn't advocate cutting down on that.
Do you mean just table sugar? This is sucrose.
Edited to add: I have cut my fruit intake drastically - but have not eliminated it. I eat tons of organic veggies and grass fed meats - I defiantly don't add table sugar to anything. I don't ingest anything bottled/canned or boxed and if I do- I read the heck out of that label and if there is added sugar, I don't get it.
This may not work for everyone -but gosh darn it, Its working for me
I add table sugar (raw/turbinado) to oatmeal, porridge, hot cocoa/tea, smoothies etc. I go through 4 lbs of sugar/month, which most would consider a lot. Once a week, I also eat about 2 pints of ice cream, 1 chocolate bar and 1 small pack of biscuits but usually no other junk/processed food. And on top of that I eat as many fruits as I like. My last fasting blood sugar test was normal-70mg/dl (norm is 65-99).
This means that sugar in and of itself is not harmful. If it was, I'd be having abnormal blood tests and weight problems. Instead, I've lost 34 lbs and currently in maintenance at 117. I'm also very active. So, no, sugar is not the culprit. Over-eating, under-exercising and poor nutrition are the culprits.1 -
Be careful, the brain needs sugars to function I had cut out sugar well below the recommended amount, and paid dearly....
All good now... just don't make it the evil villain.0 -
It's always the calorie deficit that causes fat loss over time. You can't just look at the body weight scale as the body is made up of so much more than just fat cells. But in generally too much sugar will displace other macros we need, but so will too much of all the other things. We need all things in balance and it's slightly different for each of us. While I know I can have the cookie or cake whenever I want, I rarely have them except as an occasional treat. I'm find I feel better over time and maintain my weight better with sweet protein treats, and I feel better with just a little honey or fruit instead of other high sugar treats (even though they are not the devil after all). Moderation is the key. Depriving is not helpful in the end.0
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You should watch a documentary on Netflix called "sugar coated". It's about the history of sugar in the US and its dangers etc etc it's super interesting!2
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Jelenajelenajelenajelena wrote: »You should watch a documentary on Netflix called "sugar coated". It's about the history of sugar in the US and its dangers etc etc it's super interesting!
Better yet, don't base your opinions on "documentaries", might as well believe everything they say on advertisements. They're nothing but ads for whatever the makers believe, made to onesidedly tell and show you only things that support their agenda by only letting people that agree with them speak.
Sadly "only wanting to hear things I already agree with" is a common theme when it comes to these parts.11 -
I have the same results from cutting calories to a moderate deficit. I still eat lots of sugar, but feel great, sleep great, and all the rest.3
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Jelenajelenajelenajelena wrote: »You should watch a documentary on Netflix called "sugar coated". It's about the history of sugar in the US and its dangers etc etc it's super interesting!
And super inaccurate/biased.
http://www.sugar.ca/SUGAR/media/Sugar-Main/News/Responses-to-statements-on-Sugar-Coated-Fact-Sheet.pdf6 -
*sigh* don't newcomers read the stickies anymore, or are they more interested in bulldozing scientific proof with their YouTube and tumblr info?3
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LisaClifford731 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
I can't imagine buying so much stuff with labels that it would take that long to read them, and I'm about as far from a clean eater as one could find. My main packaged stuff are things I'm very familiar with, like plain yogurt, smoked salmon, dried pasta, dried and canned beans, canned tomatoes (out of season), and steel cut oats. Oh, and the protein powder I like and use occasionally. Other than a tiny bit used for making the smoked salmon and, of course, the lactose in the yogurt, none of this has sugar.
I do buy fancy chocolates from a restaurant near my office that sells local artisan and European chocolates. Those, of course, have sugar. Oh, and ice cream/gelato sometimes.
Ok. I was exaggerating the amount of time. Thought thatchers obvious. I too, eat clean (about 90/10) so if I'm wrong about anything I've said here, I beg of all of you "experts" try educating someone before insulting them.
Now I remember why I don't EVER come to these boards.
My point was I DON'T eat "clean" in that all the stuff I mentioned is, of course, packaged and processed (and it sounds like you don't really either). But it's still not complicated to know what's in what I buy, and none of it has meaningful added sugar except the items I know do.0 -
LisaClifford731 wrote: »Is anyone else watching their sugar intake? I've been tracking my sugar like a bloodhound and have noticed significant losses (approx 2 lbs a week) and other changes - such as sleeping better, MORE energy (if you could believe that? and I generally don't feel like crap anymore.
Anyone else have these experiences?LisaClifford731 wrote: »Is anyone else watching their sugar intake? I've been tracking my sugar like a bloodhound and have noticed significant losses (approx 2 lbs a week) and other changes - such as sleeping better, MORE energy (if you could believe that? and I generally don't feel like crap anymore.
Anyone else have these experiences?
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I double quoted and can't figure out how to delete it, so I apologize. But I am watching my sugar intake as well in that I'm trying to eliminate foods with added sugar. When I first started using MFP I alwayyyyyyyyys went over my sugar for the day, mostly thanks to my morning energy drink and a granola bar or two throughout the day. Now, only eating foods with no added sugar, I have found its easy to stay within my daily limits.
And yes, I also fee great 3 -
LisaClifford731 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »LisaClifford731 wrote: »biggsterjackster wrote: »I have bee eating low sugar for month now. The other day I went significantly over my sugar limit and felt like crap. It felt like I swallowed a huge rock and it couldn't be digested. I guess it has to do with the sudden insulin spike. Don't know.
Sugar makes you produce more insulin which throws your entire body into defense mode. I feel fab since I lowered my sugar - (it takes me 5 hours to grocery shop now (HAHA) but I read EVERY label and I must know 100 different names they use on labels to disguise the sugar in the ingredients.
Good luck to you!! Feel free to add me. I love to have others following the same path to compare diaries and chat with.
I can't imagine buying so much stuff with labels that it would take that long to read them, and I'm about as far from a clean eater as one could find. My main packaged stuff are things I'm very familiar with, like plain yogurt, smoked salmon, dried pasta, dried and canned beans, canned tomatoes (out of season), and steel cut oats. Oh, and the protein powder I like and use occasionally. Other than a tiny bit used for making the smoked salmon and, of course, the lactose in the yogurt, none of this has sugar.
I do buy fancy chocolates from a restaurant near my office that sells local artisan and European chocolates. Those, of course, have sugar. Oh, and ice cream/gelato sometimes.
Ok. I was exaggerating the amount of time. Thought thatchers obvious. I too, eat clean (about 90/10) so if I'm wrong about anything I've said here, I beg of all of you "experts" try educating someone before insulting them.
Now I remember why I don't EVER come to these boards.
Don't take it so personal. It took me about one post on here after my 3 year sabbatical to find out that I need to back up my statements with actual facts not just anecdotal "this worked for me" comments.
This 100%
If more people did this, things would be so much better !
Its so important as a community that we post facts not opinions. There's so many newcomers that don't yet know much about weight loss or nutrition and come here seeking information. When threads like " sugar is the culprit !" Come up, it could seriously mislead newcomers.4 -
I feel like sugar really is the culprit for most women. Our hormones go bonkers & we crave it. We get overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable! Once you are free from those constant cravings, it's like being reborn! My celery tastes sweet! Never been happier. Feels like I am finally eating to fuel my body. I don't care how fast or slow I lose, I just feel fantastic.3
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I feel like sugar really is the culprit for most women. Our hormones go bonkers & we crave it. We get overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable! Once you are free from those constant cravings, it's like being reborn! My celery tastes sweet! Never been happier. Feels like I am finally eating to fuel my body. I don't care how fast or slow I lose, I just feel fantastic.
Sugar does not cause:
Hormonal imbalances
Fat gain (only a calorie surplus does)
Insulin resistance
Depression
Misery
So basically all the claims you made are totally false (especially the part about celery).13 -
I feel like sugar really is the culprit for most women. Our hormones go bonkers & we crave it. We get overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable! Once you are free from those constant cravings, it's like being reborn! My celery tastes sweet! Never been happier. Feels like I am finally eating to fuel my body. I don't care how fast or slow I lose, I just feel fantastic.
Please don't make assumptions about "most women." I'm a woman, and this is not at all true for me. Never had constant sugar cravings. (Like I said above, savory foods are much more my weakness.)
I've always found vegetables plenty sweet too. Not everyone who needs to lose weight (or even most people, I'd bet) has a messed up palate.6 -
I feel like sugar really is the culprit for most women. Our hormones go bonkers & we crave it. We get overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable! Once you are free from those constant cravings, it's like being reborn! My celery tastes sweet! Never been happier. Feels like I am finally eating to fuel my body. I don't care how fast or slow I lose, I just feel fantastic.
Please don't make assumptions about "most women." I'm a woman, and this is not at all true for me. Never had constant sugar cravings. (Like I said above, savory foods are much more my weakness.)
I've always found vegetables plenty sweet too. Not everyone who needs to lose weight (or even most people, I'd bet) has a messed up palate.0 -
I feel like sugar really is the culprit for most women. Our hormones go bonkers & we crave it. We get overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable! Once you are free from those constant cravings, it's like being reborn! My celery tastes sweet! Never been happier. Feels like I am finally eating to fuel my body. I don't care how fast or slow I lose, I just feel fantastic.
None of these things are true for me, I guess I'm not most women...5 -
I feel like sugar really is the culprit for most women. Our hormones go bonkers & we crave it. We get overweight, insulin resistant, depressed, and miserable! Once you are free from those constant cravings, it's like being reborn! My celery tastes sweet! Never been happier. Feels like I am finally eating to fuel my body. I don't care how fast or slow I lose, I just feel fantastic.
The only times celery tastes sweet is when I dredge it through lovely, lovely sugar. Please don't speak for "All Women".4 -
Celery with Nutella is sweet, other then that celery is not sweet ar all. Please don't speak for all women3
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