what do you think about meat?
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I absolutely love chicken breast, and I sure do love me some sweet & sour pork. any other kind of meat, I could give or take. I straight up don't like steak.0
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Meat is a great source of protein and very tasty.... I wouldn't dream of giving it up (unless I HAD to for health reasons.)
I find when I get plenty of protein I always feel full and feeling full means no temptation to snack.1 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »stinkeye111 wrote: »Mavrick_RN wrote: »Vegans always have an ulterior motive for their choice. Humans are omnivores and designed to eat both plants and animals.
I happen to love the taste and texture of meat. I hang an ornament of Saint Anthony, the Patron Saint of Bacon, on my Christmas tree every year.
Hmmm... I'm not sure what you mean by ulterior motive???
Thank you.
The definition of "ulterior motive" is exactly what I meant. [An alternative or extrinsic reason for doing something, especially when concealed or when differing from the stated or apparent reason.]
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I eat meat. I love meat. I believe we have an evolutionary predisposition to eat and metabolize meat. Having said that, I don't think it's a daily dietary necessity. Go back a couple generations and our grandparents and great grandparents didn't eat nearly so much as the average, non-impoverished person does today. I also try to stick to organically raised meats (expensive, but manageable if I don't make it a dietary staple) and I've got a workmate with chickens, who brings me fresh eggs. They're gorgeous! I also live alone, so when I cook, I have loads of left-overs to recycle into other recipes over the week. So, there's that.... If I had a large family to feed it would likely be somewhat different.0
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I'm getting picky in my old age, as well as soft.
I have decided if I could catch it, kill it and butcher it then I will eat it.
So that means I no longer eat pork, lamb or beef because quite honestly, I think pigs, sheep and cows are CUUUTTTEEE! And I just want to chase them and hug them like a big hippy dippy.
Turkey, fish and crustaceans I am 100% fine with.
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Because I eat more meat, I eat fewer carbs. Since getting on the fitness thing, I've quadrupled my meat intake.0
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I'm not a fan. I have no problem hitting my macros or feeling full/satisfied as a vegetarian. I love my diet.5
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It is great and I eat it every day in moderation and correct portion sizes.
Oh, and I have lost over 160 pounds and kept it off for over 2-1/2 years.
Works for me.1 -
I care about the impact on the environment and about the way farm animals are treated, but I find maintaining 20% protein important to stay on an even keel and it's difficult for me to get there without meat. I end up eating way too many protein bars. I will only eat beans in quantity when I know I will be alone for the evening, they are unusually magical for me. Maybe it's just psychological but I do crave meat on occasion, and feel better after consuming it. (I have had lifelong low iron levels so it may not be all in my head). I do on occasion pay more money for humanely treated meat. Blue Goose is a brand I can buy at a couple stores in my area. I eat mostly chicken. Beef has fallen into "treat" category at my house, so once every two weeks or so.0
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My main source's of protein come from Venison, Bear & fish that I procure & process all myself. Mother nature provides my sustenance...2
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I have been vegan for a couple of years. I have put on a lot of weight in the last year as I have enjoyed the food rather too much and have been experimenting with different recipes, food like artisan vegan nut cheeses and eating out much more. I would say the weight gain was also to do with a change in routine where I had to commute to work for longer, and I stopped exercising so much, as work hours were also long. I have recently come back to this site as I need to rein in my excesses and learn about portion size again ( and start regular exercise!). I tend to like the high protein vegeburgers and non animal "steaks" which leave me feeling full and satisfied for hours on end and am looking to use these for weight loss while cutting right down on the many sweet and high fat foods I tend to normally go for. I think increasing the amount of protein in whatever form, can help reduce feelings of hunger. As far as weight loss/ maintenance and what people eat, I think it is down to the usual calories in, calories out formula, and not whether someone eats meat or not. I would also add that it is possible for someone to be slim, but eat unhealthily, with a lot of sugar and fat and not much nutrients.0
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You can eat a ton of veggies for the caloric cost of a few ounces of meat.
Plus the environmental cost... and animals like it better when we don't eat them and raise them in poor conditions.3 -
Simple matter of calorie in or calorie out. What it comes down to it's your preference of what you enjoy.
I live in an area with a heavy Asian Indian population and 99.99% of them are vegetarian for religious reasons. I've seen plenty of them overweight or with big bellies.
I'm a lifetime member of PETA( people eating tasty animals). Plus I look at nature as my example, if it's ok for the animals to eat each other then it's okay for me to eat them.4 -
Managing ones weight is about overall intake. Not one food over another. I'd never survive on a vegan diet. Not that I'm a huge fan of meat, but...no way.0
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Being vegan is completely a personal choice. Meat isn't unhealthy for everyone, as long as it high quality (pasture raised, grass fed, humanely raised..) Getting meat, eggs and dairy from local farms or farmer's markets or food stores where you know where it comes from is the best option. Some people do feel their best vegan, and that is ok too as long as they are consuming whole foods that are nutrient dense to make sure they obtain all of the essential proteins they need, that are more difficult to get from plant based sources- although you certainly can, it just takes planning.0
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Mavrick_RN wrote: »Vegans always have an ulterior motive for their choice. Humans are omnivores and designed to eat both plants and animals.
"Always" ?
Why would you make a judgement or assumption about a certain group of people? Unless, of course, you know every vegan on the planet.0 -
stinkeye111 wrote: »"Always" ?
Why would you make a judgement or assumption about a certain group of people? Unless, of course, you know every vegan on the planet.
By the very nature of their decision to go against "Nature".
Same way, all short people are not tall. "All of them".
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brenn24179 wrote: »My vegan friend thinks it is easier to keep her weight down since she does not eat meat.
I think meat fills me up.
How about ya?
I tried going vegetarian a couple times (with guidance from my dietician). I dropped a bunch of weight quickly, and I always ended up in emerg within a month of the change. My doctor flat out told me it was stupid to be cutting meat when I've struggled with anemia my entire life, and after some trial-and-error and research I have to agree.
So what do I think of meat consumption? The same as anything else: Moderation. I have no problem with others eliminating meat from their diet, and all the power to them if they are getting safe results, but people need to stop bullying each other over the matter (this goes both ways).1 -
Mavrick_RN wrote: »stinkeye111 wrote: »"Always" ?
Why would you make a judgement or assumption about a certain group of people? Unless, of course, you know every vegan on the planet.
By the very nature of their decision to go against "Nature".
Same way, all short people are not tall. "All of them".
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brenn24179 wrote: »My vegan friend thinks it is easier to keep her weight down since she does not eat meat.
I think meat fills me up.
How about ya?
I wish I could, though. It would make meal planning easier, especially on days when I'm struggling to hit my protein goal.
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I fully agree with this I eat vegan because I love animals and I absolutely hate the taste/texture of animal products . Its none of my business what other people eat .
Yet, people assume I'm judging them by the simple fact that I don't eat meat, regardless of whether I talk about it.
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I don't really like it so I am now vegetarian. I also feel like it's wrong to eat animals in this day and age where it's not necessary or even healthy in the amounts typical americans eat.0
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Ah it's like politics or religion. Believe what you want, just don't feel the need to change my beliefs to be in line with yours!
And my belief is I freaking love meat (giggidy) pork is my fav but I keep it as a treat as a little fatty, chicken and Turkey are my normal go to!0 -
Oh also side note, when I was veggie for 6 years in my teens I got pretty big, cheese replaced meat in meals as I was too young to understand how to properly adjust my diet so it's all relative really!0
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