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  • BerryH
    BerryH Posts: 4,698 Member
    As your profile is closed, can you give us some idea of what you do and how long you do it to get the burn you record? HRMs are at best an estimate and some people have a naturally high heart rate. You may get a better result simplifying things and going by the MFP burn. Remember for an accurate measurement you should also take off the calories you would have burned just sitting on your bum during that time as they're already included.

    Also, very fit people capable of keeping exercise going for a long time, like I assume you must do, have got used to that form of exercise and got very efficient at it, so your burn may not be as high as you estimate.

    When you have a good idea of what you're burning and, you should eat as close as you can to MFP's daily calories. You MUST keep your net calories at least 1,200.

    MFP works with the automatic settings if everything you put in is accurate. 0.5 - 1lb a week is the perfect loss to aim for over the long term, You only get those big losses when you first start!

    Good luck!
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    no no no... don't cut back on exercise....like when i really wanna lose weight i take in about 900cal a day and i burn about 1000 cal at the gym each day....and the results are great....i don't really follow what people say on eating to less cal or exercising too much..i think its all a myth.... you have to figure out how you body works....like if i consume 1200 cal a day as MFP advise me to do i barley see any weight change.. probably 1 kg in a month..it takes forever..try changing you diet and exercise a bit less and consume less and see how it goes...

    this ......is just plain bad advice. Sorry to be so harsh, but look at what you are saying, first you say that when you want to lose weight you do negative calorie diets (you burn more calories with exercise alone than you take in in food, not to mention maintenance calories, this is very unhealthy) then you called something that has worked for thousands of people on MFP a myth, without giving any reason, then you call 1/2 lb per week "barley any weight change" which, is straight up false, especially for someone who is not obese. Essentially you're saying "MFP doesn't work, my way works and everyone following MFP is wrong".


    well that's just how it works for me....if you wanna be model thin you'd rather lose 1-2kgs per week.....n please i said MFP works but it takes forever

    Really? You really just put this out there for the world to see? This is so unhealthy I can't even speak on it. Look, amphetamines are a great weight loss tool too, but there's a reason why we don't recommend them. You are free to do what you wish, but advising someone else of an extremely unhealthy way to lose weight is both irresponsible and just plain rude in my opinion, not to mention you basically put MFP down with your comments.
  • BerryH
    BerryH Posts: 4,698 Member
    My BMI is currently 26 point something!xx
    You're very close to your healthy weight range then, which starts at 25. You'd expect your weight loss to slow down as you get towards this, and you might want to consider changing your goal loss to 0.5lb a week which is more reliable to achieve.
  • Hermia76
    Hermia76 Posts: 34
    Hi Ilovedrinkingtea

    You always giving me support so I thought I'd give some back.

    Goal:
    I don't know what you want to weigh but I'd go for what you think looks best on you and what you can maintain fairly easily. No point setting yourself up for failure. I know BMI isn't always the best, but perhaps somewhere in the mid-healthy range?

    Weightloss per week:
    I think 1- 1.5lbs sounds right. I'm going for 2lbs but that's because I've just started and want to be spurred on. I may drop/adjust as I get down to a sensible weight.

    Why you're not losing:
    I don't know. I've looked at you diary and you seem to be eating in a fairly balanced way. Personally, I don't buy all the low carb/low fat/high protein/low sugar stuff. I like to stick to calories in/calories out. I am a "normal" girl with a desk job who likes her sweet stuff/cheese etc. I know those things don't help with weight BUT I have no intention of living my life without them so I factor it in and only have a bit now and then.

    I also loathe formal exercise but recognise that it is good for a healthy life. I think the key is BALANCE. Personally, I suspect your workout regime is a bit much as you seem to burn so many calories. Can you keep this regime up forever? If you are doing it to ensure weight loss rather than because it's what you would do anyway, weight loss or no, then there's not much point.

    I, personally, don't want a quick fix (I'm tempted but know it's gonna come back in the long run) so I'm trying to cultivate sustainable habits. I'm guessing you often don't eat enough for the work your body is doing and feel tired. That's no fun. You're punishing yourself twice (at the gym by working too hard and at the table by not eating what you enjoy).

    Life is to be enjoyed.

    Just my two penn'orth. xx
  • Ilovedrinkingtea
    Ilovedrinkingtea Posts: 597 Member
    As your profile is closed, can you give us some idea of what you do and how long you do it to get the burn you record? HRMs are at best an estimate and some people have a naturally high heart rate. You may get a better result simplifying things and going by the MFP burn. Remember for an accurate measurement you should also take off the calories you would have burned just sitting on your bum during that time as they're already included.

    Also, very fit people capable of keeping exercise going for a long time, like I assume you must do, have got used to that form of exercise and got very efficient at it, so your burn may not be as high as you estimate.

    When you have a good idea of what you're burning and, you should eat as close as you can to MFP's daily calories. You MUST keep your net calories at least 1,200.

    MFP works with the automatic settings if everything you put in is accurate. 0.5 - 1lb a week is the perfect loss to aim for over the long term, You only get those big losses when you first start!

    Good luck!

    Thanks I've now made the profile open too, so you can have a look. Generally I do cardio type exercise, a lot of spinning, kettle bells and fightclub type classes. I think I should do more resistance training. I always wear the HRM and don't use MFL for the exercise settings anymore as it tends to over-estimate.

    I've looked at the reports and the net isn't always 1200 - sometimes I just can't eat enough to keep up with it!

    I've now altered from 1lb per week loss to 1.5lb as so many people on this thread said to drop it a bit.

    I try very hard to keep everything accurate!

    xx
  • ayeshakane
    ayeshakane Posts: 44 Member
    no no no... don't cut back on exercise....like when i really wanna lose weight i take in about 900cal a day and i burn about 1000 cal at the gym each day....and the results are great....i don't really follow what people say on eating to less cal or exercising too much..i think its all a myth.... you have to figure out how you body works....like if i consume 1200 cal a day as MFP advise me to do i barley see any weight change.. probably 1 kg in a month..it takes forever..try changing you diet and exercise a bit less and consume less and see how it goes...

    this ......is just plain bad advice. Sorry to be so harsh, but look at what you are saying, first you say that when you want to lose weight you do negative calorie diets (you burn more calories with exercise alone than you take in in food, not to mention maintenance calories, this is very unhealthy) then you called something that has worked for thousands of people on MFP a myth, without giving any reason, then you call 1/2 lb per week "barley any weight change" which, is straight up false, especially for someone who is not obese. Essentially you're saying "MFP doesn't work, my way works and everyone following MFP is wrong".


    well that's just how it works for me....if you wanna be model thin you'd rather lose 1-2kgs per week.....n please i said MFP works but it takes forever

    Really? You really just put this out there for the world to see? This is so unhealthy I can't even speak on it. Look, amphetamines are a great weight loss tool too, but there's a reason why we don't recommend them. You are free to do what you wish, but advising someone else of an extremely unhealthy way to lose weight is both irresponsible and just plain rude in my opinion, not to mention you basically put MFP down with your comments.

    well you or normal people might say its unhealthy...but in professions of acting, modeling that's all normal for us.....you can see the results in biggest lossers. how they workout so much and eat less cal and lose like 50-80 kg in 5months....they get checked by the doctors.... we do as well and trust me they say theres nothing wrong with it if you do it for s short period of time
  • Ilovedrinkingtea
    Ilovedrinkingtea Posts: 597 Member
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    well you or normal people might say its unhealthy...but in professions of acting, modeling that's all normal for us.....you can see the results in biggest lossers. how they workout so much and eat less cal and lose like 50-80 kg in 5months....they get checked by the doctors.... we do as well and trust me they say theres nothing wrong with it if you do it for s short period of time
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    Is that really what they do on biggest loser?

    xx
  • Ilovedrinkingtea
    Ilovedrinkingtea Posts: 597 Member

    well you or normal people might say its unhealthy...but in professions of acting, modeling that's all normal for us.....you can see the results in biggest lossers. how they workout so much and eat less cal and lose like 50-80 kg in 5months....they get checked by the doctors.... we do as well and trust me they say theres nothing wrong with it if you do it for s short period of time

    Is that really what they do on Biggest Loser?xx
  • ayeshakane
    ayeshakane Posts: 44 Member
    yes its for 5months and they train for 5-7 hours a day and only consume about 1500-1800 cal a day...which comes from fruits and vegs...no process food..they get checked by the doctors every single week....thats how they manage to lose huge amount of weight over short period of time.....
  • I noticed your calorie goals per day change....usually it is a set amout.....consistently every day for instance 1450. I noticed also some days you go over and some you go under. I understand you workout regularly, I would definitiely add resistance/strength training. More protein would be good in my opinion.also water water water :) if you don't log it it looks as though you don't drink it :)if you have to....overestimate the calories if you don't know for sure....you can always do research and change it later.i I hope I am helpful and good luck :)
  • habgirl15
    habgirl15 Posts: 1
    I noticed that your over on your sugar everyday.I love sugar too....but sugar is evil...LOl..If you want to keep your coffee,only with 2 tsp of sugar,I'd cut out the yogart,It's not as healthy for you as they make it out to be....loaded with hidden sugars! I see you also eat granola...It's also high in sugars..have you tryed oatmeal or cherrios?
    Here's what I do and so far it has worked for me everytime after having each of my 5 kids.Been on a diet seen May 1rst and have lost 15 pds so far..1rst No bread ever..No salt.Salt makes you retain un-need water.And nooooo sugar.1 night a week I'll eat something bad.Like cake and a scoop of Icecream or some fugde or a cookie or two.My reward for being good.LOL Always reward yourself!! Drink plenty of water.If you need something flavered drink water that has a natural flavor to it.And most important !!!!Check your portions on everything..Very important! Write then down in a small note book if it helps.And you might be working out to much..Your building muscle not loosing fat..Find out what your target heart rate is for burning fat.I only work out 2-3 times a week for 30 minutes fast walking.Most important do exersices you enjoy!!!Everyone is different.But i hope I helpped you!Good luck and keep your head up:smile:
  • Ilovedrinkingtea
    Ilovedrinkingtea Posts: 597 Member
    I noticed your calorie goals per day change....usually it is a set amout.....consistently every day for instance 1450. I noticed also some days you go over and some you go under. I understand you workout regularly, I would definitiely add resistance/strength training. More protein would be good in my opinion.also water water water :) if you don't log it it looks as though you don't drink it :)if you have to....overestimate the calories if you don't know for sure....you can always do research and change it later.i I hope I am helpful and good luck :)

    Yeah MFP changes it because I workout so much, so the goal moves. I adjusted my diary settings this morning from 1lb per week loss to 1lb - I didn't realise that that would make everything look over!!! I will change it back and swap it again later!!!

    I need to start logging the water!!!

    xx
  • Ilovedrinkingtea
    Ilovedrinkingtea Posts: 597 Member
    Right, I've now changed the diary back to 1lb per week loss, this is what I've been following since joining MFP.

    Yes I totally agree with the people who have said to reduce the sugar and salt, I will make changes!

    xx
  • JennLifts
    JennLifts Posts: 1,913 Member
    I think you understand lower sugar, i wouldn't say you have to cut out anything sweet you like, but just less often, or something equally as satisfying with less sugar :)
    As for the yogurt, to still get the benefits of the product without the crap that it brings, buy plain and do your own flavors. Add fruit, extracts (less often lol.), nuts, agave nectar, honey, etc. Yes, depending on what you do it could make it higher sugar, but you know what you're consuming. some fresh strawberries are much better than a syrupy fruit on the bottom!
    Kettle bell is resistance yes? Keep it up! I'd say it's really only necessary to do one of your cardio activities and then one strength. One 45min spin session and some kettle bells, or one of the other cardio things and some other resistance. More isn't necessarily better in the exercise world, and its going to make you need eat a lot more too.
    Kudos on your seeking advice, and knowing the good from the bad! It does take a bit to get the hang, and it take a while to get the weight off!
  • Ilovedrinkingtea
    Ilovedrinkingtea Posts: 597 Member
    I think you understand lower sugar, i wouldn't say you have to cut out anything sweet you like, but just less often, or something equally as satisfying with less sugar :)
    As for the yogurt, to still get the benefits of the product without the crap that it brings, buy plain and do your own flavors. Add fruit, extracts (less often lol.), nuts, agave nectar, honey, etc. Yes, depending on what you do it could make it higher sugar, but you know what you're consuming.

    So true. Those stupid Danone yogurts, I'd no clue they had soooo much sugar!!! - I've 8 in the fridge and I reckon I'm giving them to a work colleague this afternoon - usually I'm quite good for having the plain yogurt with fruit.

    xx
  • Ilovedrinkingtea
    Ilovedrinkingtea Posts: 597 Member
    I noticed that your over on your sugar everyday.I love sugar too....but sugar is evil...LOl..If you want to keep your coffee,only with 2 tsp of sugar,I'd cut out the yogart,It's not as healthy for you as they make it out to be....loaded with hidden sugars! I see you also eat granola...It's also high in sugars..have you tryed oatmeal or cherrios?

    Yeah I hear you on the bread, I'm not eating that at the moment either!!! Stupid granola - I bought it because it seemed not to have that much sugar in when I read the pack!!! I am tracking that sugar from here on in, and maybe switching back to porridge again now. Yeah, I'm ditching those Danone yogurts too!!!

    xx
  • melaniecheeks
    melaniecheeks Posts: 6,349 Member
    Once again, a thread that reminds us what's wrong with the modelling "profession". :frown:

    Sorry, we "normal" people are trying to find a sustainable and healthy approach to eating.
  • pyro13g
    pyro13g Posts: 1,127 Member
    Cut carbs and sugar in half or more. Strength train if you are not doing so. Drop two days of exercise and adjust your calories accordingly.
  • chrissyh
    chrissyh Posts: 8,235 Member
    like when i really wanna lose weight i take in about 900cal a day and i burn about 1000 cal at the gym each day....and the results are great....
    oh, gosh, do I understand that right? the result is -100 calories/day?

    I had a massive deficit of 1,000 on Tuesday and yesterday I felt weak and light headed! xx

    For obvious reasons you were light headed. Don't starve yourself - you can't maintain that and it's brutal on your body.

    I agree with many posts - add strength training, watch water, sugar and sodium....try to see what's worked and what doesn't

    You pretty much fall into that last 10 category and it is definitely hard work!
  • LHann360
    LHann360 Posts: 159 Member
    Hi, we are similar in height, so I thought I'd share my plan. I don't log my workouts on mfp. I had a trainer that showed me this site ( he checks our food diaries) , and he said not to log it so I can see my food intake properly. I just stick to my calorie settings.( I'm 5'9" and set at 1350 daily calories) I workout 5 days for an hour in Boot Camp type classes, so it's weights and cardio all in one class. ( similar to Insanity videos and 30 day shred) I've been losing 1-2 lbs. a week for the last 3 months. I still eat cake and ice cream on birthdays, I don't feel like I'm missing anything. Once I get closer to my goal, I'm sure my calories will adjust to maintain. I zig zagged last week to shock my body, and I lost 3 lbs. So see how your body adjusts to your new settings, wait a week and see how that works. Good luck to you. :bigsmile:
  • erinhale
    erinhale Posts: 137 Member
    FROM A FITNESS PROFESSIONAL:
    1. EAT BACK ALL YOUR EXERCISE CALOIRES- Leave no more 150 left for the day
    2. Increase your protien, seriousl yyou are not eating enough protien.

    Then anwser:

    Are you wearing a HRM during your exercise or taking guesses at the burn??



    OKay, jut checked your diary- YOU ARE WORKINGOUT TO MUCH ADN NOT REPLACING WHAT YOU NEED. Sometimes you workout 3 times a day, this is not safe, not healthy or reccomended especially if you are not going to properly replace your caloires or supplement correctly.
  • stormieweather
    stormieweather Posts: 2,549 Member
    First thing: Eat enough. Don't try to crash diet or starve yourself (I think you agree, based on your posts). This will turn around and bite you!

    After a very long plateau (months and months), I finally started losing this year. Here is what I did:

    1) Do not cheat. No unlogged foods, no "free" days, no weekends off, no cheats, period. Allow yourself to eat reasonably (no more than maintenance) once or twice a month, but never, ever, unchecked feeding. Log it all!

    2) Log it all. Every morsel, bite, cooking oil, a french fry off a child's plate, a taste while cooking, a 15kc drink...every single thing. Every single day. Get in the habit of noticing exactly what and how much you are putting in your mouth. It is extremely easy to obliterate your deficit with an oversight here or there. After you've done this for a long time (maybe a year), you'll be more consious of what you're eating.

    3) Weigh and measure everything. Do not estimate. People who estimate portion sizes are usually off by a significant error rate. http://www.livestrong.com/article/374687-losing-weight-with-portion-control/ . You can completely erase your deficit by errors in portion sizes. Even if you're only off by 100 calories a meal, at the end of the day, that's 300 calories and you've nearly eaten back your deficit.

    4) Eat enough protein. Protein helps you feel full and satisfied, and is usually from healthier foods (chicken, fish, greek yogurt, eggs, etc.). If my protein is too low, my fat and/or carbs are too high and I bloat. A good allocation is 40% carb, 30% fat, 30% protein. Make sure you hit it every day (or are within 5% of it). Keep the fat at or under 30% and carbs are the rest.

    5) Do something different for exercise. Take a break, limit cardio and incorporate strength training. Do different types of cardio, for me, it was running. I'm a terrible runner and it is a real struggle for me, but until I started putting forth the effort to run, my cardio was useless because it was so easy for me. But give your body a break, at least one day a week, NO exercise for fitness. Go have fun instead.

    7) Patience is the most important thing. It takes weeks for my body to catch up to my deficit. If you give up or change too much too soon, you'll never know if it was working or not. I had 6 weeks (this year) where I didn't lose anything. I stuck to it, because I know that I am doing it right. I am positive I am eating enough and working out enough and so, I have to lose weight. And eventually, I did. The average weight loss for this year (including the 6 weeks of nothing) is 1 pound per week. Right on target. So hang in there and never give up.

    Good luck! :flowerforyou:
  • Ilovedrinkingtea
    Ilovedrinkingtea Posts: 597 Member
    Hi, we are similar in height, so I thought I'd share my plan. I don't log my workouts on mfp. I had a trainer that showed me this site ( he checks our food diaries) , and he said not to log it so I can see my food intake properly. I just stick to my calorie settings.( I'm 5'9" and set at 1350 daily calories) I workout 5 days for an hour in Boot Camp type classes, so it's weights and cardio all in one class. ( similar to Insanity videos and 30 day shred) I've been losing 1-2 lbs. a week for the last 3 months. I still eat cake and ice cream on birthdays, I don't feel like I'm missing anything. Once I get closer to my goal, I'm sure my calories will adjust to maintain. I zig zagged last week to shock my body, and I lost 3 lbs. So see how your body adjusts to your new settings, wait a week and see how that works. Good luck to you. :bigsmile:

    Are you saying you don't eat back your workout calories?

    Also any tips on zigzagging?

    xx
  • Ilovedrinkingtea
    Ilovedrinkingtea Posts: 597 Member
    FROM A FITNESS PROFESSIONAL:
    1. EAT BACK ALL YOUR EXERCISE CALOIRES- Leave no more 150 left for the day
    2. Increase your protien, seriousl yyou are not eating enough protien.

    Then anwser:

    Are you wearing a HRM during your exercise or taking guesses at the burn??



    OKay, jut checked your diary- YOU ARE WORKINGOUT TO MUCH ADN NOT REPLACING WHAT YOU NEED. Sometimes you workout 3 times a day, this is not safe, not healthy or reccomended especially if you are not going to properly replace your caloires or supplement correctly.

    I think you are right, I don't think I am getting enough protein and I should eat more meat, and less processed foods in general.

    Yes, I use a HRM, and what I log is from my HRM.

    I think I may be working out too much, I think you could be right on this. Yes, sometimes I don't manage to eat back all my calories.

    xx
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member

    well you or normal people might say its unhealthy...but in professions of acting, modeling that's all normal for us.....you can see the results in biggest lossers. how they workout so much and eat less cal and lose like 50-80 kg in 5months....they get checked by the doctors.... we do as well and trust me they say theres nothing wrong with it if you do it for s short period of time

    Did.... you.... just.... show The Biggest Loser as a model for healthy weight loss? Really? A reality TV show? Seriously?

    First of all, those people are morbidly obese, you're talking body fat percentages well into the 50% range and higher. this translates into an energy reserve high enough to supply 4000 to 6000 calories a day without eating 1bite of food.

    Second, these people have serious medical issues that are life threatening, and therefore extreme measures are taken (and if you notice, they post this on the show).

    Third, the things these people do are monitored by doctors and sports medical professionals at all times, FOR THE SOLE REASON THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY DANGEROUS. The only reason the doctors allow it is because of the immanent possibility of death from obesity. If someone was say, 40 or 50 lbs overweight, no nutrition specialist with any kind of degree would allow people to do what they do.

    Fourth, they DO NOT only eat fruits and veggies on the show, they eat whole grains, and proteins, and healthy oils all the time, as they should.

    And last (this is not TBL related), becoming healthy for life has VERY LITTLE to do with BMI, BMI isn't even a valid individual number for most people, long term good health is a combination of healthy body fat %, healthy lean body mass, and receiving all the macro and micronutrients you need to function daily. You cannot, as an adult of normal height, receive the correct macro and micro nutrients you need off 1000 calories a day or less, this is a well known fact. You put your health at risk doing this long term (more than a few weeks at most), you risk your immune system, your hair,skin, nails, your endocrine system, your digestive tract, and your cardio-respiratory system by not giving your body the vitamins and minerals it needs to function properly.

    That's it, I'm done with this, it's maddening that someone would offer up this kind of unhealthy advice.
  • Ilovedrinkingtea
    Ilovedrinkingtea Posts: 597 Member
    First thing: Eat enough. Don't try to crash diet or starve yourself (I think you agree, based on your posts). This will turn around and bite you!

    After a very long plateau (months and months), I finally started losing this year. Here is what I did:

    1) Do not cheat. No unlogged foods, no "free" days, no weekends off, no cheats, period. Allow yourself to eat reasonably (no more than maintenance) once or twice a month, but never, ever, unchecked feeding. Log it all!

    2) Log it all. Every morsel, bite, cooking oil, a french fry off a child's plate, a taste while cooking, a 15kc drink...every single thing. Every single day. Get in the habit of noticing exactly what and how much you are putting in your mouth. It is extremely easy to obliterate your deficit with an oversight here or there. After you've done this for a long time (maybe a year), you'll be more consious of what you're eating.

    3) Weigh and measure everything. Do not estimate. People who estimate portion sizes are usually off by a significant error rate. http://www.livestrong.com/article/374687-losing-weight-with-portion-control/ . You can completely erase your deficit by errors in portion sizes. Even if you're only off by 100 calories a meal, at the end of the day, that's 300 calories and you've nearly eaten back your deficit.

    4) Eat enough protein. Protein helps you feel full and satisfied, and is usually from healthier foods (chicken, fish, greek yogurt, eggs, etc.). If my protein is too low, my fat and/or carbs are too high and I bloat. A good allocation is 40% carb, 30% fat, 30% protein. Make sure you hit it every day (or are within 5% of it). Keep the fat at or under 30% and carbs are the rest.

    5) Do something different for exercise. Take a break, limit cardio and incorporate strength training. Do different types of cardio, for me, it was running. I'm a terrible runner and it is a real struggle for me, but until I started putting forth the effort to run, my cardio was useless because it was so easy for me. But give your body a break, at least one day a week, NO exercise for fitness. Go have fun instead.

    7) Patience is the most important thing. It takes weeks for my body to catch up to my deficit. If you give up or change too much too soon, you'll never know if it was working or not. I had 6 weeks (this year) where I didn't lose anything. I stuck to it, because I know that I am doing it right. I am positive I am eating enough and working out enough and so, I have to lose weight. And eventually, I did. The average weight loss for this year (including the 6 weeks of nothing) is 1 pound per week. Right on target. So hang in there and never give up.

    Good luck! :flowerforyou:

    Thank you for your post.

    1&2 I am getting a lot more strict about.

    3 I am weighing as much of my food as I can, using a jug for stuff like the semi skimmed milk and a scales for stuff like cereal.

    4 I agree, I think I should eat more protein.

    5 True I think I am doing too much cardio

    7 I am trying to be patient but IT IS SOOO HARD!!!

    xx
  • Ilovedrinkingtea
    Ilovedrinkingtea Posts: 597 Member

    well you or normal people might say its unhealthy...but in professions of acting, modeling that's all normal for us.....you can see the results in biggest lossers. how they workout so much and eat less cal and lose like 50-80 kg in 5months....they get checked by the doctors.... we do as well and trust me they say theres nothing wrong with it if you do it for s short period of time

    Did.... you.... just.... show The Biggest Loser as a model for healthy weight loss? Really? A reality TV show? Seriously?

    First of all, those people are morbidly obese, you're talking body fat percentages well into the 50% range and higher. this translates into an energy reserve high enough to supply 4000 to 6000 calories a day without eating 1bite of food.

    Second, these people have serious medical issues that are life threatening, and therefore extreme measures are taken (and if you notice, they post this on the show).

    Third, the things these people do are monitored by doctors and sports medical professionals at all times, FOR THE SOLE REASON THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY DANGEROUS. The only reason the doctors allow it is because of the immanent possibility of death from obesity. If someone was say, 40 or 50 lbs overweight, no nutrition specialist with any kind of degree would allow people to do what they do.

    Fourth, they DO NOT only eat fruits and veggies on the show, they eat whole grains, and proteins, and healthy oils all the time, as they should.

    And last (this is not TBL related), becoming healthy for life has VERY LITTLE to do with BMI, BMI isn't even a valid individual number for most people, long term good health is a combination of healthy body fat %, healthy lean body mass, and receiving all the macro and micronutrients you need to function daily. You cannot, as an adult of normal height, receive the correct macro and micro nutrients you need off 1000 calories a day or less, this is a well known fact. You put your health at risk doing this long term (more than a few weeks at most), you risk your immune system, your hair,skin, nails, your endocrine system, your digestive tract, and your cardio-respiratory system by not giving your body the vitamins and minerals it needs to function properly.

    That's it, I'm done with this, it's maddening that someone would offer up this kind of unhealthy advice.
  • Ilovedrinkingtea
    Ilovedrinkingtea Posts: 597 Member

    well you or normal people might say its unhealthy...but in professions of acting, modeling that's all normal for us.....you can see the results in biggest lossers. how they workout so much and eat less cal and lose like 50-80 kg in 5months....they get checked by the doctors.... we do as well and trust me they say theres nothing wrong with it if you do it for s short period of time

    Did.... you.... just.... show The Biggest Loser as a model for healthy weight loss? Really? A reality TV show? Seriously?

    First of all, those people are morbidly obese, you're talking body fat percentages well into the 50% range and higher. this translates into an energy reserve high enough to supply 4000 to 6000 calories a day without eating 1bite of food.

    Second, these people have serious medical issues that are life threatening, and therefore extreme measures are taken (and if you notice, they post this on the show).

    Third, the things these people do are monitored by doctors and sports medical professionals at all times, FOR THE SOLE REASON THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY DANGEROUS. The only reason the doctors allow it is because of the immanent possibility of death from obesity. If someone was say, 40 or 50 lbs overweight, no nutrition specialist with any kind of degree would allow people to do what they do.

    Fourth, they DO NOT only eat fruits and veggies on the show, they eat whole grains, and proteins, and healthy oils all the time, as they should.

    And last (this is not TBL related), becoming healthy for life has VERY LITTLE to do with BMI, BMI isn't even a valid individual number for most people, long term good health is a combination of healthy body fat %, healthy lean body mass, and receiving all the macro and micronutrients you need to function daily. You cannot, as an adult of normal height, receive the correct macro and micro nutrients you need off 1000 calories a day or less, this is a well known fact. You put your health at risk doing this long term (more than a few weeks at most), you risk your immune system, your hair,skin, nails, your endocrine system, your digestive tract, and your cardio-respiratory system by not giving your body the vitamins and minerals it needs to function properly.

    That's it, I'm done with this, it's maddening that someone would offer up this kind of unhealthy advice.


    Sorry I'm not sure what happened there!!! I quoted and sudddenly it was up before I'd said anything!!!

    Thank you for your post, I actually read somewhere else that TBL did eat back their exercise calories and Jillian gave out to them when they did not.

    But anyway I think you're right, this is not a model for what I need to be doing. I am overweight, not obese. I am possibly trying to lose one stone or a stone and a half. I used to be 10.5 stone and I looked amazing - those were the days!!!

    xx
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Are you sure of the calories burned? Some of them seem a little high. 2000 calories seems a lot to eat in one day. Also, maybe trade some of the higher sodium foods for vegetables.
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