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lauraemily84 wrote: »Hi any one doing the Slimfast diet ?wanna be buddies on here? X
And you ARE eating food - look at all the foods (and work) you put into those shakes, and you still think of the shake powder as the main ingredient (and quick and easy). This is the modern equivalent of Stone SoupI haven't done the actual Slimfast diet, but I have used the shakes as a replacement for breakfast and/or lunch. Need to start doing that again.1 -
Meal replacement shakes of any kind leave me ravenous less than an hour later! Any time I have tried them, I have wound up way over on my calories because I am so hungry.A meal replacement person with their head screwed on can be more successful keeping the weight off than a calorie counter who misguidedly thinks they are 'finally free of calorie counting'
I am not sure how meal replacement plans help a person to "screw" their head on. There is little thinking about how to make good choices about food. Grabbing a premade shake will teach you nothing. Also, by your reasoning, won't a shake person think they are "finally free of eating shakes"?
The reason I am successful this time is I have learned about food. I have learned how to be around food, and eat the right kinds of food and manage my intake - none of which is stressed on a meal replacement diet. I will probably never be free of calorie counting because it has become second nature. I am more conscious about the foods I eat and more informed about the calorie content in them. If I relied on shakes to do it for me, I would have learned nothing!
I think the poster meant that a person with their "head screwed on" was a person who already understood how calories worked and is able to use the shake short term to drop some weight then move in to maintenance with calorie counting, making sure to avoid a surplus. As opposed to a calorie counter who gets to their target weight then stops because they feel they are done and can go back to their previous eating patterns, hence gaining back the weight.1 -
For goodness sake, nothing like friendly support here! Slim fast products are a tool and most contain protein so they aren't evil! Would I go on the slim fast diet plan? No. But anything that helps especially during my hectic lifestyle is fine by me.1
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It's horses for courses Choppie70. I was just making that point on the flip side that the calorie counting that is so sacred to some, in a high percentage of people is going to fail when they reach goal weight just as it is for someone on meal replacements if they do not have an exit plan!
I am on the Slim Fast plan at the moment. I'm on day 17 and happy on it. Seeing that initial water loss and then some weight loss has spurred me to keep going for a period. I don't plan on staying on it forever, I mean who would. I have lost weight on Slim Fast many years ago when around age 20. I lost three stone and kept it off for years. Having children, breastfeeding and years of the need for more energy due to not enough sleep meant my calorific need was greater and I must have increased my intake slowly. It crept on despite my love of healthy eating. I have my exit plan and I know that my palette doesn't pine for unhealthy choices apart from the odd chocolate bar. In fact if I have to spend two or three days eating such food for whatever reason my body starts craving fresh good food. My children are not toddlers anymore so I am well rested and there is no need to make quick unhealthy choices that end up being more calorific. I can see a way of life on the other side once some initial weight has gone.
Up to day 3 I felt hungry. After that initial period I haven't felt hungry. In fact my body is knowing that 'had enough' feeling quicker than it used to. I would skip straight to 'stuffed' before as my portions were out obviously. If anything I can now eat less now naturally.
People are very quick to jump down on anyone doing something different to the MFP way of things on here. It comes down to individuals and how knowledgeable/experienced/committed they are. No way is a guaranteed success and it doesn't stop when the weight goes. No one is proposing eating shakes for life either.Meal replacement shakes of any kind leave me ravenous less than an hour later! Any time I have tried them, I have wound up way over on my calories because I am so hungry.A meal replacement person with their head screwed on can be more successful keeping the weight off than a calorie counter who misguidedly thinks they are 'finally free of calorie counting'
I am not sure how meal replacement plans help a person to "screw" their head on. There is little thinking about how to make good choices about food. Grabbing a premade shake will teach you nothing. Also, by your reasoning, won't a shake person think they are "finally free of eating shakes"?
The reason I am successful this time is I have learned about food. I have learned how to be around food, and eat the right kinds of food and manage my intake - none of which is stressed on a meal replacement diet. I will probably never be free of calorie counting because it has become second nature. I am more conscious about the foods I eat and more informed about the calorie content in them. If I relied on shakes to do it for me, I would have learned nothing!
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I agree with Fionaplum, I think a lot of the mfp community come down hard on posters who are just asking for support
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MissusMoon wrote: »lauraemily84 wrote: »Don't we all?!!! I think there's a misconception that slimfast is all shakes - you do eat proper food just calorie controlled!
I eat pizza, ice cream, steak and I drink wine. All in my daily caloric goals and I've lost 38lbs.
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I used to do slimfast and if it works for
You that's great. Didn't work for me personally.
Just a word of caution on the sugar content (I'm doing a low/no added sugar approach to weight loss so I have a huge sugar radar!) one serving of the shake has nearly the entire recommended daily amount of sugar in it for a woman. Personally I think this is awful for a company to push something that is "healthy" and for weight loss that is so high in sugar, but anyway.
If it works for you, and it's a diet for short term results that you need, for a wedding or holiday or whatnot, then great! Go for it. If it's a lifestyle change, maybe consider looking at other approaches before deciding what is best for you. Good luck.2 -
Thank you for your responses,
Can I ask - as I'm on Slimfast diet am I not aloud to post on here? And to see if anyone else is doing the same or similar diet? I'm just looking for support - I feel like any of my posts about Slimfast I get a lot of negativity?
I understand everyone has the own opinions on the Slimfast/ meal replacement. Just so you know I started it to loose 7lb. I do eat pretty healthy anyway but I was eating bigger portions and created a lovely little muffin top haha so I started my diet as I was a little short on time - also I have two young children I spend a lot of time in/out going to pre school, toddler groups/ collect from pre sch etc and often don't have much time to prepare a low cal meal for lunch. I'm aware I need to go on to a maintain plan as would anyone once there at there goal! I'm planning on having one meal substituted and try to have a lower cal breakfast or lunch. I used to have a massive bowl of cereal and biscuits so I'm learning that I need to portion control more and cut out high cal snacks.
I do eat a good dinner I don't just have shakes!
Thank you to the supportive posts and the friend requests it's great to have support no matter which diet you choose x3 -
MFP is for anyone who is interested to lose/gain or maintain weight. You are of COURSE allowed to post on here! ☺️
Whatever course of weight loss you decide to follow people will say it's wrong or not the best way blah blah. I got a tonne of negativity for trying to support someone who wanted to do a 30 day sugar detox, people all jumped on saying it wasn't healthy to cut out sugar etc. (I don't want to get into that debate again FYI! Haha) but whichever way you decide to
Try and lose weight, it's your journey and go for it. I know a lot of people are trying to impart wisdom and advice but some people go about it the wrong way.
Good luck with your journey! Feel free to add me if you'd like (even though we are not following the same plan!)4 -
gailramsden wrote: »I agree with Fionaplum, I think a lot of the mfp community come down hard on posters who are just asking for support
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I do not see anyone coming down hard on anyone. People are sharing their thoughts. The word support does not mean agreeing with someone - it means giving assistance. People need to look at it through a different lens and stop being insulted if people do not agree with them and think of it as people trying to help them.
If you look at the post count of the many mfp people who are being accused of coming down hard on people you will notice that they have a high post count. You will notice a lot of them have lost a lot of weight, and have been successful. They are here to share some of the knowledge they have learned. A lot of them are now at maintenance and being successful at that as well.
If you look at the post count of the many mfp people who are asking about shakes, fad diets, etc. you will notice they are low. They are new and asking advice from people who have been at it a while. A lot of times they are looking for a quick fix or are not sure how losing weight really works. Not always, but quite a lot!
There is so much misinformation out there about how to lose weight and this misinformation just gets perpetuated by media and the diet industry. It doesn't take a special meal plan, tablet, shake, insert newest diet fad here to lose weight. The people on mfp who have been on this journey are trying to help people see that none of this is necessary and that it can be done without falling into a diet fad trap.
If you want to use slimfast to help you lose weight, and it is helping you then great! But don't accuse people of not being supportive because they are offering a different perspective or trying to educate people about the very basic concept of weight loss which is burning more calories than you eat.9 -
I did slimfast last year I loved their chocolate shake unfortunetly I didn't lose weight now I know why I didn't because I was eating too much at dinner time what I though what was a good meal I was eating it's double so probably once a while it would be nice to go back to slimfast maybe not everyday but definetly once or twice a week .At the moment I am not eating breakfast but do have my lunch and dinner and it's going pretty well I have lost 1 1/2 stone.I do find at times it gets quite stressful to make lunch for my self dinner is fine as everyone in our house sits together.So I might buy slimfast for next month just to take the hassle out from making lunch for myself I used powders but I am thinking maybe I should buy the prepared shakes.Best of luck with your plan I am sure it will help you lose your weight1
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I don't really understand the use of shakes either. So if one shake is about 200 calories (I'm just putting in a number here, I don't really know how much they are)... why don't you just count out your calories to make a 200 calorie breakfast or lunch?
I mean I understand the need for maybe something quick sometimes or on the go, but honestly, are you going to drink shakes forever? Because when you do lose the weight from restricting calories with shakes, THEN what? Do you go back to eating your regular diet (that made you gain weight in the first place)?
Part of calorie counting is learning portion control. I mean the shakes will work, but they'll teach you nothing at all about modifying your behavior. So you'll end up on that cycle of shakes to lose the weight... go back to regular diet and gain weight... go back to shakes... go back to regular diet... lose, gain, lose, gain.
But I guess that's how Slim Fast makes their money. Keeping people on that endless cycle.6 -
I don't really understand the use of shakes either. So if one shake is about 200 calories (I'm just putting in a number here, I don't really know how much they are)... why don't you just count out your calories to make a 200 calorie breakfast or lunch?
I mean I understand the need for maybe something quick sometimes or on the go, but honestly, are you going to drink shakes forever? Because when you do lose the weight from restricting calories with shakes, THEN what? Do you go back to eating your regular diet (that made you gain weight in the first place)?
Part of calorie counting is learning portion control. I mean the shakes will work, but they'll teach you nothing at all about modifying your behavior. So you'll end up on that cycle of shakes to lose the weight... go back to regular diet and gain weight... go back to shakes... go back to regular diet... lose, gain, lose, gain.
But I guess that's how Slim Fast makes their money. Keeping people on that endless cycle.
OP, perfect advice!
When you say you would eat massive amount of cereal for breakfast, why not weigh out a portion of cereal. I used to overeat cereal too. I now know what a real portion looks like. SlimFast left me ravenous. The people MFP are just trying to help you.0 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »lauraemily84 wrote: »Hi any one doing the Slimfast diet ?wanna be buddies on here? X
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This!!! You did get some pretty poor responses from some purists here. When I first started my weight-loss journey up around 225 lbs. I didn't have access to whole foods during my work day., or ways to keep those foods safe during the work day. So I did do a lot of slim fast bars and slim fast shakes. Zone bars were also a frequent go to. They all had decent macros and it's a helluva better choice than some others. The most important thing is go with what works for you now. Eventually you will evolve to what will work for you down the road. Think of this as a long term journey and not a sprint.
I'm not doing Slimfast now, but please feel free to add me as a friend. Good luck and let us know how you are doing. Despite some of the responses MFP is a great support structure that has helped me achieve my goal weight.
Not agreeing with someone's choices because experienced people have discovered that these shakes are a scam =/= "You did get some pretty poor responses from the purists here." How does that make me a "purist" - whatever that is? There's nothing "pure" or even "clean" about my diet - I eat a well-balanced, healthy diet that includes lots of treats like chocolate, ice cream and chips, because having lost 75 lbs, I know that deprivation - for me - is neither sustainable long term, nor realistic. And it's also not necessary.
Except the OP was not asking for advice. She was looking to connect with people on a similar path. Instead of just moving on, most responders came in with their holier than tho responses with out knowing a single thing about the OP and her circumstances.
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lauraemily84 wrote: »Thank you for your responses,
Can I ask - as I'm on Slimfast diet am I not aloud to post on here? And to see if anyone else is doing the same or similar diet? I'm just looking for support - I feel like any of my posts about Slimfast I get a lot of negativity?
I understand everyone has the own opinions on the Slimfast/ meal replacement. Just so you know I started it to loose 7lb. I do eat pretty healthy anyway but I was eating bigger portions and created a lovely little muffin top haha so I started my diet as I was a little short on time - also I have two young children I spend a lot of time in/out going to pre school, toddler groups/ collect from pre sch etc and often don't have much time to prepare a low cal meal for lunch. I'm aware I need to go on to a maintain plan as would anyone once there at there goal! I'm planning on having one meal substituted and try to have a lower cal breakfast or lunch. I used to have a massive bowl of cereal and biscuits so I'm learning that I need to portion control more and cut out high cal snacks.
I do eat a good dinner I don't just have shakes!
Thank you to the supportive posts and the friend requests it's great to have support no matter which diet you choose x
Of course you are allowed to post here, just know that as with most things Internet related, you will get a lot of responses from people with limited knowledge trying to tell others what to do. The anonimity allows disrespectful freedoms that people wouldn't take in real life.
Seriously, how many people walk up to you and actually tell you what you should be eating?
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snickerscharlie wrote: »lauraemily84 wrote: »Hi any one doing the Slimfast diet ?wanna be buddies on here? X
^^^^^^^^
This!!! You did get some pretty poor responses from some purists here. When I first started my weight-loss journey up around 225 lbs. I didn't have access to whole foods during my work day., or ways to keep those foods safe during the work day. So I did do a lot of slim fast bars and slim fast shakes. Zone bars were also a frequent go to. They all had decent macros and it's a helluva better choice than some others. The most important thing is go with what works for you now. Eventually you will evolve to what will work for you down the road. Think of this as a long term journey and not a sprint.
I'm not doing Slimfast now, but please feel free to add me as a friend. Good luck and let us know how you are doing. Despite some of the responses MFP is a great support structure that has helped me achieve my goal weight.
Not agreeing with someone's choices because experienced people have discovered that these shakes are a scam =/= "You did get some pretty poor responses from the purists here." How does that make me a "purist" - whatever that is? There's nothing "pure" or even "clean" about my diet - I eat a well-balanced, healthy diet that includes lots of treats like chocolate, ice cream and chips, because having lost 75 lbs, I know that deprivation - for me - is neither sustainable long term, nor realistic. And it's also not necessary.
Except the OP was not asking for advice. She was looking to connect with people on a similar path. Instead of just moving on, most responders came in with their holier than tho responses with out knowing a single thing about the OP and her circumstances.
People on MFP ignore snark when they agree with it. There are tons of purposefully snarky or passive aggressive posts, especially from the more frequent posters, when unpopular questions are asked. The cool thing to do is to then feign ignorance and assert you don't understand why the OP goes on the defensive. You receive brownie points if you defend the stealth snark, too.
People don't like when their Prime Directive is challenged, be it keto, slimfast, IIFYM, vegan, yolo, HAES, etc. If you're going to use the forums, always expect half the replies to be unhelpful or condescending.5 -
Of course you can post if you do Slimfast, Shakeology, the Cabbage Soup Diet or whatever plan you want.
But remember that MFP is a calorie counting site. So most people here are...wait for it...counting calories.
If I went on a Slimfast website and talked about how I thought eating all foods in moderation and not drinking my calories was the way to go, I wouldn't expect a favorable response.7 -
I'm doing Slimfast most days and have lost close to 40 pounds. I just lose easier with the slimfast for some reason. Every couple of weeks I will go off of it for a couple of days to make sure I can maintain the loss and so I'm learning to eat properly. Also I weigh and log everything I eat, so I don't know why people think you can't change your lifestyle while doing slimfast. Most people might not, but it isn't impossible.3
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Just started slimfast today!!2
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booksandchocolate12 wrote: »Of course you can post if you do Slimfast, Shakeology, the Cabbage Soup Diet or whatever plan you want.
But remember that MFP is a calorie counting site. So most people here are...wait for it...counting calories.
If I went on a Slimfast website and talked about how I thought eating all foods in moderation and not drinking my calories was the way to go, I wouldn't expect a favorable response.
I understand people on here are using calorie controlled diet to loose weight - Slimfast is also a calorie controlled diet the only difference as I can see is I have a shake or usually a bar in replacement. The calories I usually have in either a shake or a bar are 210-230 cals I think I could weigh cereal and try that thank you il give that a go. But what lunch suggestion could I have " real food" 210-230 cals ? Two slices of bread are around 200 cals without any filling? I'm struggling with that hence why I personally find it easier to make up a shake or have a bar. I'm not on here to create any arguments or even asking for opinions originally - I really did/do want to meet others that are following a similar diet to me for support1
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