Back to vegan, but scared
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iamcallieu
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Hi all, looking for support within the vegan community here. I was vegetarian vegan for years with the support of a homeopath. I was in the best health of my life, feeling amazing (and at a healthy weight) when I got pregnant with my 3rd child. Having moved away from my homeopath, I began eating meat again during my pregnancy, then a naturopath put me on a low carb, high fat diet about a year ago. I've been in and out if keto for a year and though I have lost much of my weight, I've felt HORRIBLE for an entire year. Exhausted, constantly thirsty abs my hormones are a MESS.
Most of my MFPals are part of the keto/LCHF/Paleo community and I feel very cornered. I know they'll judge me when they see I'm returning to my vegan lifestyle. And I must admit, I'm SCARED, because of all of the info (brainwashing) about carb cycling/how bad fruit is for me/grain fear etc from this past year. I really need some support, y'all
Most of my MFPals are part of the keto/LCHF/Paleo community and I feel very cornered. I know they'll judge me when they see I'm returning to my vegan lifestyle. And I must admit, I'm SCARED, because of all of the info (brainwashing) about carb cycling/how bad fruit is for me/grain fear etc from this past year. I really need some support, y'all
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Stop letting people put you on diets.18
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i am 100% here to support you! I am (mostly... lol) on a vegan diet.. and ONLY for health reasons... literally.. go a week without dairy and see how you feel haha... but not only am i vegan.. (or vegetarian? not sure..) i still eat eggs and occasionally i eat fish.. i dont eat any dairy and the only grain i eat is quinoa and the occasional rice noodle recipe.
as for the previous post ^^^ you DONT need "animal one in proper proportions"... there are soo many things out there you could be eating than gross processed meat.. you can get get it from tofu, soft tofu you can put in sauces and shakes/smoothies, firm tofu you can cook just like any animal meat.. you can also get protein from beans (white beans, black beans are the best), peas, spinach, Brussels sprouts, broccoli, etc. .. so many choices.
you are free to view my diary any time you want.. again.. nobodys perfect so some days i miss, some days i cheat horribly haha but for the most of my days i'm eating vegetarian/vegan.
feel free to add me for support!2 -
Hi!
I am 100% full vegan (yes, even down to clothes and bath products) Like the person above said, you need to stop letting people put you on diets and eat what is right for you! If eating plant-based is the best you have ever felt then go back to it. A bowl of rice isn't going to kill you :-)
My diary is open, so if you want some vegan ideas feel free to add me!5 -
You're far better off without the homeopath and naturopath.
There's nothing to be scared of when going vegan. If you eat smart, and choose a variety of foods, you get most of the nutrients you need. Those that you can't get through a vegan diet, such as B12, or more rare things like EPA/DHA and D, can be supplemented. It just takes a little thinking up front.7 -
Thanks all, I'm not scared to return to my previous vegan lifestyle - I'm more scared of the backlash that I know I'm going to get. The keto community can be a brutal place; but I'm definitely ready to feel good again!! I'm also ready to eat some fruit again!!2
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Barring some nonsensical (ie: unnecessary/unsupervised VLCD) dietary plan - eat however you want. Anyone has a problem with it? F'em.2
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Hi!
I am 100% full vegan (yes, even down to clothes and bath products) Like the person above said, you need to stop letting people put you on diets and eat what is right for you! If eating plant-based is the best you have ever felt then go back to it. A bowl of rice isn't going to kill you :-)
My diary is open, so if you want some vegan ideas feel free to add me!
It doesn't look like your diary is open?0 -
i am 100% here to support you! I am (mostly... lol) on a vegan diet.. and ONLY for health reasons... literally.. go a week without dairy and see how you feel haha... but not only am i vegan.. (or vegetarian? not sure..) i still eat eggs and occasionally i eat fish.. i dont eat any dairy and the only grain i eat is quinoa and the occasional rice noodle recipe.
Then you're not vegan.
Isn't vegan an ethical lifestyle rather than a "diet"?6 -
iamcallieu wrote: »Thanks all, I'm not scared to return to my previous vegan lifestyle - I'm more scared of the backlash that I know I'm going to get. The keto community can be a brutal place; but I'm definitely ready to feel good again!! I'm also ready to eat some fruit again!!
Why let others dictate your food choices? If people are fanatical about their way of eating as being the one true way... walk away. There are multiple "right" solutions based primarily on personal choice and culture.3 -
i am 100% here to support you! I am (mostly... lol) on a vegan diet.. and ONLY for health reasons... literally.. go a week without dairy and see how you feel haha... but not only am i vegan.. (or vegetarian? not sure..) i still eat eggs and occasionally i eat fish.. i dont eat any dairy and the only grain i eat is quinoa and the occasional rice noodle recipe.
as for the previous post ^^^ you DONT need "animal one in proper proportions"... there are soo many things out there you could be eating than gross processed meat.. you can get get it from tofu, soft tofu you can put in sauces and shakes/smoothies, firm tofu you can cook just like any animal meat.. you can also get protein from beans (white beans, black beans are the best), peas, spinach, Brussels sprouts, broccoli, etc. .. so many choices.
you are free to view my diary any time you want.. again.. nobodys perfect so some days i miss, some days i cheat horribly haha but for the most of my days i'm eating vegetarian/vegan.
feel free to add me for support!
I think we can safely mark that open item as closed now.
You are not vegan. Or even vegetarian.10 -
iamcallieu wrote: »Thanks all, I'm not scared to return to my previous vegan lifestyle - I'm more scared of the backlash that I know I'm going to get. The keto community can be a brutal place; but I'm definitely ready to feel good again!! I'm also ready to eat some fruit again!!
Who is this keto community? Just a bunch of randos online? Tell the to go eff themselves...who effing cares what a bunch of internet randos think about anything.7 -
iamcallieu wrote: »Thanks all, I'm not scared to return to my previous vegan lifestyle - I'm more scared of the backlash that I know I'm going to get. The keto community can be a brutal place; but I'm definitely ready to feel good again!! I'm also ready to eat some fruit again!!
How would the keto community even know unless you told them???
I mean, can't you just become a vegan without telling...
...uh...
....wait.
Never mind.
Just eat how you want.
And stop randomly taking the advice of homeopaths.12 -
jofjltncb6 wrote: »i am 100% here to support you! I am (mostly... lol) on a vegan diet.. and ONLY for health reasons... literally.. go a week without dairy and see how you feel haha... but not only am i vegan.. (or vegetarian? not sure..) i still eat eggs and occasionally i eat fish.. i dont eat any dairy and the only grain i eat is quinoa and the occasional rice noodle recipe.
as for the previous post ^^^ you DONT need "animal one in proper proportions"... there are soo many things out there you could be eating than gross processed meat.. you can get get it from tofu, soft tofu you can put in sauces and shakes/smoothies, firm tofu you can cook just like any animal meat.. you can also get protein from beans (white beans, black beans are the best), peas, spinach, Brussels sprouts, broccoli, etc. .. so many choices.
you are free to view my diary any time you want.. again.. nobodys perfect so some days i miss, some days i cheat horribly haha but for the most of my days i'm eating vegetarian/vegan.
feel free to add me for support!
I think we can safely mark that open item as closed now.
You are not vegan. Or even vegetarian.
If she self-identifies as vegan why are you so hegemonic with your definitions?4 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »i am 100% here to support you! I am (mostly... lol) on a vegan diet.. and ONLY for health reasons... literally.. go a week without dairy and see how you feel haha... but not only am i vegan.. (or vegetarian? not sure..) i still eat eggs and occasionally i eat fish.. i dont eat any dairy and the only grain i eat is quinoa and the occasional rice noodle recipe.
as for the previous post ^^^ you DONT need "animal one in proper proportions"... there are soo many things out there you could be eating than gross processed meat.. you can get get it from tofu, soft tofu you can put in sauces and shakes/smoothies, firm tofu you can cook just like any animal meat.. you can also get protein from beans (white beans, black beans are the best), peas, spinach, Brussels sprouts, broccoli, etc. .. so many choices.
you are free to view my diary any time you want.. again.. nobodys perfect so some days i miss, some days i cheat horribly haha but for the most of my days i'm eating vegetarian/vegan.
feel free to add me for support!
I think we can safely mark that open item as closed now.
You are not vegan. Or even vegetarian.
If she self-identifies as vegan why are you so hegemonic with your definitions?
Valid point.
I forgot that what we actually do/are is less important than what we say or believe we do/are.8 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »i am 100% here to support you! I am (mostly... lol) on a vegan diet.. and ONLY for health reasons... literally.. go a week without dairy and see how you feel haha... but not only am i vegan.. (or vegetarian? not sure..) i still eat eggs and occasionally i eat fish.. i dont eat any dairy and the only grain i eat is quinoa and the occasional rice noodle recipe.
as for the previous post ^^^ you DONT need "animal one in proper proportions"... there are soo many things out there you could be eating than gross processed meat.. you can get get it from tofu, soft tofu you can put in sauces and shakes/smoothies, firm tofu you can cook just like any animal meat.. you can also get protein from beans (white beans, black beans are the best), peas, spinach, Brussels sprouts, broccoli, etc. .. so many choices.
you are free to view my diary any time you want.. again.. nobodys perfect so some days i miss, some days i cheat horribly haha but for the most of my days i'm eating vegetarian/vegan.
feel free to add me for support!
I think we can safely mark that open item as closed now.
You are not vegan. Or even vegetarian.
If she self-identifies as vegan why are you so hegemonic with your definitions?
I'm not sure that makes sense. It doesn't matter what you identify as, that doesnt change the factual reality. I can identify as an astronaut/ninja/trillionaire movie star but that doesn't mean I am any of those things in reality.
If the agreed upon definition of vegan is one who abstains from the use of animal products, then i don't think you can use animal products and say you're still a vegan. That is not what the word means.8 -
Cutaway_Collar wrote: »But when it comes to religion, you can be pro-choice, have pre-marital sex and still call yourself christian/catholic, right?
Veganism is an ethical position on animal exploitation. Christianity is a set of religious beliefs. I'm not seeing the connection.0 -
Cutaway_Collar wrote: »But when it comes to religion, you can be pro-choice, have pre-marital sex and still call yourself christian/catholic, right?
That is a false analogy. Religion not the same thing. Nobody has an agreed upon definition of the relgion down ro that level in your example, and if they do, then those people would most definitely say that people of opposing opinions on those topis are not fit for the label.
I would argue that there are not defined definitions for those religions, at least not at that level. There are plenty of denominations that split the base of the population among all those lines though I'm sure.. If you want to boil it down you might be able to do that and say that in order to be christian you'd need to believe in God and Jesus. So I wouldn't be able to say "I'm Christian but I don't believe in god. Or jesus. And I dont follow the moral teachings of the bible." That would be ridiculous.1 -
TheCrawlingChaos wrote: »EvgeniZyntx wrote: »jofjltncb6 wrote: »i am 100% here to support you! I am (mostly... lol) on a vegan diet.. and ONLY for health reasons... literally.. go a week without dairy and see how you feel haha... but not only am i vegan.. (or vegetarian? not sure..) i still eat eggs and occasionally i eat fish.. i dont eat any dairy and the only grain i eat is quinoa and the occasional rice noodle recipe.
as for the previous post ^^^ you DONT need "animal one in proper proportions"... there are soo many things out there you could be eating than gross processed meat.. you can get get it from tofu, soft tofu you can put in sauces and shakes/smoothies, firm tofu you can cook just like any animal meat.. you can also get protein from beans (white beans, black beans are the best), peas, spinach, Brussels sprouts, broccoli, etc. .. so many choices.
you are free to view my diary any time you want.. again.. nobodys perfect so some days i miss, some days i cheat horribly haha but for the most of my days i'm eating vegetarian/vegan.
feel free to add me for support!
I think we can safely mark that open item as closed now.
You are not vegan. Or even vegetarian.
If she self-identifies as vegan why are you so hegemonic with your definitions?
I'm not sure that makes sense. It doesn't matter what you identify as, that doesnt change the factual reality. I can identify as an astronaut/ninja/trillionaire movie star but that doesn't mean I am any of those things in reality.
If the agreed upon definition of vegan is one who abstains from the use of animal products, then i don't think you can use animal products and say you're still a vegan. That is not what the word means.
If you identified as a ninja, I wouldn't want to squash your dreams.
The agreed upon definition of words is fluid and veganism is a spectrum. Clearly people here want to be strict about it but how does her self-identity as a vegan harm you? Do you think she is going to eat your chicken? She already said she only occasionally eats eggs. Your chicken and your identity as a non-vegan remain safe.
Check your omnivore privilege.5 -
iamcallieu wrote: »Thanks all, I'm not scared to return to my previous vegan lifestyle - I'm more scared of the backlash that I know I'm going to get. The keto community can be a brutal place; but I'm definitely ready to feel good again!! I'm also ready to eat some fruit again!!
Are these MFP friends that you are concerned about. If so, unfriend them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.1 -
What privilege? That's goofy.
Accuracy =/= "privilege."
Anyway, if this keto community is going to be butts to you, may I postulate that it is not going to be a healthy community to hang out in. I know there are vegan communities where you may find like minded people.0
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