FDA approves weight loss stomach pump device
Need2Exerc1se
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/nation-now/2016/06/15/fda-obesity-weight-loss-aspire-assist-device-pump-food-stomach/85915870/
I really don't know how to feel about this. On one hand it probably would be a useful tool for many who feel addicted to overeating. On the other, OMG WTH has the world come to?!?!
Why can't we just stop eating too much?
I really don't know how to feel about this. On one hand it probably would be a useful tool for many who feel addicted to overeating. On the other, OMG WTH has the world come to?!?!
Why can't we just stop eating too much?
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"To place the device, a surgeon makes a tiny incision and endoscopically puts a tube in the patient’s stomach, which is attached to a “disk-shaped port that lies outside the body,” according to the statement. To drain the contents of the stomach, a person should wait twenty or thirty minutes after they eat, and then attach an external connector to the port and open the valve."
oh my gawd! They should go the whole hog and turn it into an anaerobic digester with a USB port so you can charge you phone.31 -
So, it's basically automated bulimia? OK, then.65
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Depressing.8
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No one makes any money off of eating less.16
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AlabasterVerve wrote: »No one makes any money off of eating less.
That would explain why companies don't want us to eat less, but not why we don't.12 -
*some* eating disorder patients have been doing this for years with feeding tubes. The FDA is behind the times
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This is scary. Automated bulimia is probably one way of describing it, but to have to go to a lavatory and physically flush my stomach contents down a toilet would probably cause me to vomit anyway, so that's a waste of time.
There was a program on TV not long ago that featured a man who had one of these devices. It made me nauseous then, and it still does.19 -
Gross.6
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OP I am sort of on the fence about this right now! I am shocked that you can now just empty contents of the stomach on the go per se!
Seeing that stuff dump in to the toilet is just nasty. just nasty! Bulimia pump.. wow!
I will have to come back later to this thread after I have had time to digest this.. no pun intended... 10 -
People with eating disorders will love to get this.
You can eat and eat, then just purge it in a toilet by a tube.
... not the solution.
What happens when the system is removed. Back to square one.
Horrible. Would teach nothing about eating less or nutrition.16 -
How do you develop healthier habits with this device? According to the article it says you will.4
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »AlabasterVerve wrote: »No one makes any money off of eating less.
That would explain why companies don't want us to eat less, but not why we don't.
We're not expected too. We're encouraged to eat all of the time and even told it's dangerous to go too long without eating. Every common sense food rule we've ever had as a society has been refuted by "science" and labeled nonsense and eroded by food advertising.
And anything not labeled nonsense or dangerous is deemed too hard, unsustainable deprivation that will ultimately fail.11 -
"According to the FDA, patients may experience stomach pain, irritation, potential leakage, bleeding, and infection to name a few."
i had a friend who used to binge and purge, but the thing is that he was quite slender - only he felt he was overweight. with something like this i believe he would have starved himself to death.4 -
I'd rather take Alli. That thread will poop pop up.
After one year they lost 12% of body weight. What a joke.4 -
queenliz99 wrote: »How do you develop healthier habits with this device? According to the article it says you will.
I'm not sure what the thinking behind it is. Maybe that seeing that chewed partially digested food will be disgusting enough to make you stop overeating??4 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »queenliz99 wrote: »How do you develop healthier habits with this device? According to the article it says you will.
I'm not sure what the thinking behind it is. Maybe that seeing that chewed partially digested food will be disgusting enough to make you stop overeating??
Nailed it!! partially digested food would be totally gross!!2 -
So basically it is a PEG tube but in reverse?
I can see this becoming a huge issue, especially for those with a history of bulimia. HBO did a special years ago called "Thin" about residential eating disorder treatment. One of the women had a PEG tube and used it to stay under 90lbs!
What on earth was the FDA thinking?1 -
itsbasschick wrote: »"According to the FDA, patients may experience stomach pain, irritation, potential leakage, bleeding, and infection to name a few."
i had a friend who used to binge and purge, but the thing is that he was quite slender - only he felt he was overweight. with something like this i believe he would have starved himself to death.
It seems they considered this. It says the device stops working after 115 cycles to force patients to follow-up with a doctor.0 -
I'm having a hard time thinking of any possible medical reason why this would be necessary. surely there is one... right? this device wouldn't only be for overweight people to lose weight while continuing to eat too much... right?3
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"To place the device, a surgeon makes a tiny incision and endoscopically puts a tube in the patient’s stomach, which is attached to a “disk-shaped port that lies outside the body,” according to the statement. To drain the contents of the stomach, a person should wait twenty or thirty minutes after they eat, and then attach an external connector to the port and open the valve."
oh my gawd! They should go the whole hog and turn it into an anaerobic digester with a USB port so you can charge you phone.
together with an app so you can log whats "pumped out"
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So basically it is a PEG tube but in reverse?
I can see this becoming a huge issue, especially for those with a history of bulimia. HBO did a special years ago called "Thin" about residential eating disorder treatment. One of the women had a PEG tube and used it to stay under 90lbs!
What on earth was the FDA thinking?
By the description I believe it is just a PEG tube (those work in either direction). Don't know if you read the article but you must stay under a doctor's care to use it. They may have been thinking desperate measures for desperate times. Obesity is a huge drain on national resources.1 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »So basically it is a PEG tube but in reverse?
I can see this becoming a huge issue, especially for those with a history of bulimia. HBO did a special years ago called "Thin" about residential eating disorder treatment. One of the women had a PEG tube and used it to stay under 90lbs!
What on earth was the FDA thinking?
By the description I believe it is just a PEG tube (those work in either direction). Don't know if you read the article but you must stay under a doctor's care to use it. They may have been thinking desperate measures for desperate times. Obesity is a huge drain on national resources.
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and here in Canada they have developed a Deep brain stimulation operation to help combat eating disorders..smh...
Sorry but US is screwed up...4 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »They may have been thinking desperate measures for desperate times. Obesity is a huge drain on national resources
That's what I took from this.
Also, it seems it (quite rightly) won't be made available to everyone but rather:The AspireAssist device should not be used on patients with eating disorders, and it is not intended to be used for short durations in those who are moderately overweight. It is intended to assist in weight loss in patients aged 22 and older who are obese, with a body mass index of 35 to 55, and who have failed to achieve and maintain weight loss through non-surgical weight-loss therapy.
Do the benefits of this intervention outweigh (pardon the pun) the costs? The FDA seems to think so after assessing the evidence.
It may seem gross, unpleasant and so on but the question to me is "will it be successful in what it is setting out to achieve?" If the answer is yes then it seems to be a useful asset to consider in treating obesity.
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Absolutely nasty, disgusting in every way, but most of all, very sad.
My second thought - will this device come with vouchers so you can buy more food?3 -
I can't imagine resorting to something like that. It just seems cheaper, less painful, less effort to eat less calories in the first place.
The article says the device is currently available in Europe. People all around the world buy and do dumb things instead of just watching their calorie intake.5 -
I can't imagine resorting to something like that. It just seems cheaper, less painful, less effort to eat less calories in the first place.
The article says the device is currently available in Europe. People all around the world buy and do dumb things instead of just watching their calorie intake.
not sure this is any different than gastric bypass or band surgery????
Less invasive maybe....
I agree it's freakin' gross, disgusting and it's sad people are and are going to do it.4 -
I don't understand why people are worrying about eating disorders. Do they worry about eating disorders for bariatric surgery? This has the same general requirements - must be at a high BMI, must have tried to lose weight through other means, must be in a situation where weight loss is the most healthy thing they can do for themselves. It seems like completely unnecessary worry, people looking for reasons to be angry at this device because they think it's gross without actually being logical about it. In fact, this is just the feeding tube given to anorexic patients in reverse, and without inpatient. Seems like a great tool for someone with BED or other kinds of disordered binge eating.
I think it's gross but I might think differently if I had a BMI of 45 and had been struggling for years to lose weight and knew that if I didn't lose weight I would be in mortal danger very soon. You know what's also gross? Colostomy bags. That doesn't mean they shouldn't exist; it just means that medical intervention is sometimes necessarily gross.
Man, the people on this forum are so judgy and irrational sometimes.16
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