FDA approves weight loss stomach pump device
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I'm having a hard time thinking of any possible medical reason why this would be necessary. surely there is one... right? this device wouldn't only be for overweight people to lose weight while continuing to eat too much... right?3
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"To place the device, a surgeon makes a tiny incision and endoscopically puts a tube in the patient’s stomach, which is attached to a “disk-shaped port that lies outside the body,” according to the statement. To drain the contents of the stomach, a person should wait twenty or thirty minutes after they eat, and then attach an external connector to the port and open the valve."
oh my gawd! They should go the whole hog and turn it into an anaerobic digester with a USB port so you can charge you phone.
together with an app so you can log whats "pumped out"
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So basically it is a PEG tube but in reverse?
I can see this becoming a huge issue, especially for those with a history of bulimia. HBO did a special years ago called "Thin" about residential eating disorder treatment. One of the women had a PEG tube and used it to stay under 90lbs!
What on earth was the FDA thinking?
By the description I believe it is just a PEG tube (those work in either direction). Don't know if you read the article but you must stay under a doctor's care to use it. They may have been thinking desperate measures for desperate times. Obesity is a huge drain on national resources.1 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »So basically it is a PEG tube but in reverse?
I can see this becoming a huge issue, especially for those with a history of bulimia. HBO did a special years ago called "Thin" about residential eating disorder treatment. One of the women had a PEG tube and used it to stay under 90lbs!
What on earth was the FDA thinking?
By the description I believe it is just a PEG tube (those work in either direction). Don't know if you read the article but you must stay under a doctor's care to use it. They may have been thinking desperate measures for desperate times. Obesity is a huge drain on national resources.
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and here in Canada they have developed a Deep brain stimulation operation to help combat eating disorders..smh...
Sorry but US is screwed up...4 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »They may have been thinking desperate measures for desperate times. Obesity is a huge drain on national resources
That's what I took from this.
Also, it seems it (quite rightly) won't be made available to everyone but rather:The AspireAssist device should not be used on patients with eating disorders, and it is not intended to be used for short durations in those who are moderately overweight. It is intended to assist in weight loss in patients aged 22 and older who are obese, with a body mass index of 35 to 55, and who have failed to achieve and maintain weight loss through non-surgical weight-loss therapy.
Do the benefits of this intervention outweigh (pardon the pun) the costs? The FDA seems to think so after assessing the evidence.
It may seem gross, unpleasant and so on but the question to me is "will it be successful in what it is setting out to achieve?" If the answer is yes then it seems to be a useful asset to consider in treating obesity.
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Absolutely nasty, disgusting in every way, but most of all, very sad.
My second thought - will this device come with vouchers so you can buy more food?3 -
I can't imagine resorting to something like that. It just seems cheaper, less painful, less effort to eat less calories in the first place.
The article says the device is currently available in Europe. People all around the world buy and do dumb things instead of just watching their calorie intake.5 -
I can't imagine resorting to something like that. It just seems cheaper, less painful, less effort to eat less calories in the first place.
The article says the device is currently available in Europe. People all around the world buy and do dumb things instead of just watching their calorie intake.
not sure this is any different than gastric bypass or band surgery????
Less invasive maybe....
I agree it's freakin' gross, disgusting and it's sad people are and are going to do it.4 -
I don't understand why people are worrying about eating disorders. Do they worry about eating disorders for bariatric surgery? This has the same general requirements - must be at a high BMI, must have tried to lose weight through other means, must be in a situation where weight loss is the most healthy thing they can do for themselves. It seems like completely unnecessary worry, people looking for reasons to be angry at this device because they think it's gross without actually being logical about it. In fact, this is just the feeding tube given to anorexic patients in reverse, and without inpatient. Seems like a great tool for someone with BED or other kinds of disordered binge eating.
I think it's gross but I might think differently if I had a BMI of 45 and had been struggling for years to lose weight and knew that if I didn't lose weight I would be in mortal danger very soon. You know what's also gross? Colostomy bags. That doesn't mean they shouldn't exist; it just means that medical intervention is sometimes necessarily gross.
Man, the people on this forum are so judgy and irrational sometimes.16 -
Here's my thoughts (recovering 15-year bulimic). If you drain the contents of the stomach after 20 minutes, that means much of what you actually digest will be carbs, since carbs can be digested in the mouth and stomach. It's the fiber, protein and fat that need to be digested in your intestines. So basically, this will make the patient more insulin resistant and make it hard to get enough protein, fat, and uptake the fat-soluble nutrients.18
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"To place the device, a surgeon makes a tiny incision and endoscopically puts a tube in the patient’s stomach, which is attached to a “disk-shaped port that lies outside the body,” according to the statement. To drain the contents of the stomach, a person should wait twenty or thirty minutes after they eat, and then attach an external connector to the port and open the valve."
oh my gawd! They should go the whole hog and turn it into an anaerobic digester with a USB port so you can charge you phone.
together with an app so you can log whats "pumped out"
Needs to sync to MFP to account for "calories out," and post status updates to Facebook and instagram.11 -
I can't imagine resorting to something like that. It just seems cheaper, less painful, less effort to eat less calories in the first place.
The article says the device is currently available in Europe. People all around the world buy and do dumb things instead of just watching their calorie intake.
not sure this is any different than gastric bypass or band surgery????
Less invasive maybe....
I agree it's freakin' gross, disgusting and it's sad people are and are going to do it.
Bariatric surgery has a higher risk of negative side effects than a g-tube. G-tubes have very low incidence of infection or other negative side effects.0 -
Dangit. How did I miss this? I scrolled through and just made the same post. Whoops.0
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I am completely for medical help with obesity, whether that is surgery, medication, a support group, a dietician, etc. I think people should use all the tools they can get if their weight is to the point that it is truly affecting their health and daily functioning.
But this device disturbs me.8 -
I think I'd feel better with the FDA-approved Obera or ReShape option. Fewer side effects, anyway, since there is no surgical incision and full anesthesia. But you're still walking around with a foreign object in your body.
"The system is indicated as an adjunct to weight reduction for obese adults with body mass index of 30 to 40 kg/m2 who have been unable to lose weight through diet and exercise. It is to be used in conjunction with a long-term supervised diet and behavior-modification program, which are to be continued after device removal.
Data on the use of the system in 125 individuals with BMI 30 to 40 kg/m2 were presented earlier this year at Digestive Disease Week 2015. The participants lost an average of 22 pounds (10%) of their body weight after the balloon had been in place for 6 months and maintained 19 pounds of that weight loss 3 months after it was removed." -http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/849200
I'd rather just lose my weight for free with MFP and not a medical procedure, but everyone isn't me. Also sounds like there was some weight creep very soon after it was pulled, but at least it requires some long-term support.0 -
What I don't understand is how it's supposed to help in the long run. It's a temporary device that does nothing to re-train the user like conventional bariatric surgery. It will help with immediate weight loss, but it has to be removed at some point, and the user is left with a normal-sized stomach and appetite. The supervised diet and counseling can help long-term, but how does flushing undigested food down the toilet for a little while solve anything?6
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PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »What I don't understand is how it's supposed to help in the long run. It's a temporary device that does nothing to re-train the user like conventional bariatric surgery. It will help with immediate weight loss, but it has to be removed at some point, and the user is left with a normal-sized stomach and appetite. The supervised diet and counseling can help long-term, but how does flushing undigested food down the toilet for a little while solve anything?
I suppose it would solve as much as a reduced calorie diet would. In other words, it will help them lose weight. Given the percentage of people that regain weight after dieting by any method (including calorie counting) why not try something new?2 -
This is medically approved bulemia that doesn't address the underlying issues, so the person never "heals" becoming a constant revenue stream for replacement parts, food manufacturers, and pharmaceuticals to address any medical issues caused as a side effect of this medical "treatment."11
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Yay!!! Physician assisted purging!!!!!6
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