Disadvantages of Keto diet
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queenliz99 wrote: »
I was "low carb" last year and my check up was not how I'd like it.
So I did a bunch of research and am trying again this year at full keto. I'm only 5 weeks in, but I know a lot more about different fats now and how high fat can be ok. This year, I'm hoping my HDLs will be up and my triglycerides will be down. My gall bladder (or lack there of) has added a bit of complications for me personally to find fatty enough foods to be keto without triggering issues in the plumbing. But I'm doing better now!1 -
queenliz99 wrote: »
I was "low carb" last year and my check up was not how I'd like it.
So I did a bunch of research and am trying again this year at full keto. I'm only 5 weeks in, but I know a lot more about different fats now and how high fat can be ok. This year, I'm hoping my HDLs will be up and my triglycerides will be down. My gall bladder (or lack there of) has added a bit of complications for me personally to find fatty enough foods to be keto without triggering issues in the plumbing. But I'm doing better now!
Good to know, best wishes!0 -
Pretty much not being able to eat what you want2
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Are there any disadvantages of Keto diet? Please be honest. I am really interested but I would like to make sure everything is safe before a change of lifestyle.
Why would you want to eliminate tasty carbs from a diet when you can lose weight in a calories deficit?
I did keto for a while, realised I missed rice.
Is that a fair disadvantage?3 -
Thank you. I am almost ready to make a decision. Any new idea?0
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Human brain runs on sugar! I also think that we need a variety of nutrients found in different foods. I don't recommend keto diet because is not ballanced. Think about fiber and good carbs! Plus when you're on a keto diet the fat intake can be too high! I would suggest you to try the easy 'keto carbo' diet eat those foods that are having a low sugar content and only natural occuring sugar (eg: berries, pineapple, grapefruit, yogurts, cottage chesse) and complex carbs that have 0 sugar (eg: wild rice, steel cut oats, white potatoes, quinoa). Keep your fat intake maximum 30% of your total calories too in order to lose weight.4
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MadalinaPetre wrote: »Keep your fat intake maximum 30% of your total calories too in order to lose weight.
:huh: :noway:
or, be in a calorie deficit in order to lose weight?
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TavistockToad wrote: »MadalinaPetre wrote: »Keep your fat intake maximum 30% of your total calories too in order to lose weight.
:huh: :noway:
or, be in a calorie deficit in order to lose weight?
Haha, pretty much. My fat intake is more like 60-65% of my kcals.4 -
Check the Ketogains reddit to get accurate, science-based information. Luis Villasenor is known as one of the most knowledgeable people on Keto. Keto Flu is avoidable and does not mean you should stop. It's basically your body detoxing off of carbs and making the switch to burning fat for energy rather than carbs. Please don't listen to the uninformed rhetoric. Read REAL information - not articles from biased sources, especially people trained in "traditional"/old school nutrition. There are many books and articles out there, but as with anything, you have to sift through the b.s. to find the nuggets of real wisdom.
There is also a Ketogains Facebook page that has proven to be invaluable for me, though I only found it a year into my keto journey. I lost 50 lbs in 6 months and my blood work improved. My boyfriend lost 90 lbs in the same time period and saw drastic improvements in his blood pressure, heartburn and asthma.
If you arm yourself with information and do it correctly, keto can be a healthy, successful way to not just manage your weight, but your health as well.8 -
MadalinaPetre wrote: »Human brain runs on sugar! I also think that we need a variety of nutrients found in different foods. I don't recommend keto diet because is not ballanced. Think about fiber and good carbs! Plus when you're on a keto diet the fat intake can be too high! I would suggest you to try the easy 'keto carbo' diet eat those foods that are having a low sugar content and only natural occuring sugar (eg: berries, pineapple, grapefruit, yogurts, cottage chesse) and complex carbs that have 0 sugar (eg: wild rice, steel cut oats, white potatoes, quinoa). Keep your fat intake maximum 30% of your total calories too in order to lose weight.
This is completely inaccurate. If you're going to spout this information like you're an authority, cite sources.9 -
Wait pineapple has low sugar? It always tastes incredibly sweet to me. Off to check USDA...
ETA: So far, stawberries seems to be the winner with 5g of sugar per 100g of fruit, and grapefruit isn't far behind with 7g. Apples, blueberries, and pineapple all have around 10g, and bananas have 12g.4 -
Wait pineapple has low sugar? It always tastes incredibly sweet to me. Off to check USDA...
ETA: So far, stawberries seems to be the winner with 5g of sugar per 100g of fruit, and grapefruit isn't far behind with 7g. Apples, blueberries, and pineapple all have around 10g, and bananas have 12g.
Bananas is reason enough for me not to do low carb. There is also raisins, prunes, apples, watermelon, persimmons, dates, peaches, plums, oranges, mikan, grapes, kiwi, cantaloupe and honeydew melons. Probably more, but you get the point.
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Wait pineapple has low sugar? It always tastes incredibly sweet to me. Off to check USDA...
ETA: So far, stawberries seems to be the winner with 5g of sugar per 100g of fruit, and grapefruit isn't far behind with 7g. Apples, blueberries, and pineapple all have around 10g, and bananas have 12g.
Bananas is reason enough for me not to do low carb. There is also raisins, prunes, apples, watermelon, persimmons, dates, peaches, plums, oranges, mikan, grapes, kiwi, cantaloupe and honeydew melons. Probably more, but you get the point.
Figs!! You forgot figs!! LOL1 -
queenliz99 wrote: »Wait pineapple has low sugar? It always tastes incredibly sweet to me. Off to check USDA...
ETA: So far, stawberries seems to be the winner with 5g of sugar per 100g of fruit, and grapefruit isn't far behind with 7g. Apples, blueberries, and pineapple all have around 10g, and bananas have 12g.
Bananas is reason enough for me not to do low carb. There is also raisins, prunes, apples, watermelon, persimmons, dates, peaches, plums, oranges, mikan, grapes, kiwi, cantaloupe and honeydew melons. Probably more, but you get the point.
Figs!! You forgot figs!! LOL
... and mangos! Although mangos are a bit messy to eat. Low carb actually could be pretty brutal even without going into ketosis. Personally I think cutting all/most added sugar is much easier and probably more effective. That can be pretty much done for free although it does cost time reading labels.2 -
I like carbs too much.1
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Annahbananas wrote: »I've tried the Keto diet and I certainly lost weight but it never worked for me long term. I hate restricting foods to the point where i cannot have them.
And a more important issue: my kidneys are only 40% effective after the dieting on Keto . Before the dieting on Keto my kidney functions were 100% because I had an intensive physical before I went into the Police Academy. My endocrinologists are saying it was from me yo yo I got on the Keto diet. Take it for what it's worth, but the Keto diet almost destroyed my kidneys
Plus, I enjoy eating a bowl of spaghetti with parmesan cheese and still lost .6 of a pound that day
I hope your kidneys can recover
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I've been Dr. Lustig on youtube. Search on "Sugar: The Bitter Truth". He started with asking what the Japanese diet and Aktin's diet have in common. The answer is they are both low fructose diets.
I got interested in the topic because for me, cutting sugar has helped a great deal. I don't have any serious hunger even with a calorie deficit. I'm losing body fat. I stopped two years ago because I couldn't handle the hunger.
A LCHF diet is just too restrictive for me. Even if it had amazing advantages, I simply couldn't follow it where I currently live. However, cutting sugar is working for me and no one faults you for trying to avoid sugar. I think in the US it would be really much harder to do, but diabetics do it, so it must be possible. In the end there is really very little changes to the diet. I haven't cut fruit and I eat a lot of fruit at breakfast. 4 to 5 servings. However I've cut refined sugar down to 20 grams / day and I think it is really helping. I'm planning on taking it down to 10 grams / day.
Getting back on the LCHF disavantages.
* Very little fruit. To me that just doesn't fly.
* Hard to eat enough calories from heathy fats without carbs. Personally, I like fish but I don't think it wist to eat that much fish everyday, ect. So I think I would end up choosing less healthy options.
* I don't like feeling sick and I would probably get the keto-flu.
* It would interfere with my workouts at least for a while. While it would probably help my running once in ketosis, I don't like running that much.2 -
I never experienced the dreaded "keto-flu". I waited for it, but it never came. I also never go the keto breath (that I'm aware of). After about three to four weeks, I stopped craving carbs altogether, stopped feeling hungry, and lost my urges to binge eat. I had been in therapy for over a year and had even been placed on medication for over six months that had'nt been working to try to control my binge eating, but until keto, nothing had controlled it. I have lost a few pounds, nothing crazy (but I haven't been trying to lose weight yet), but I am prepared to begin to lose weight now that I have been more psychologically in control now for a month. I have never had control like this, I could cry. I can't believe it. I have only ever liked carbs, never have I been a meat or cheese person, but I know that I'm doing this for my well-being. I'm so happy that I have had this psychological break through. That's been my advantage. Also, I have bipolar disorder and I have read anecdotal studies that suggest this diet can help control symptoms (along with my medications and treatment) and so that is my main motivation, more than weight-loss, although I don't mind breaking 230 for the first time in a year! (And I did it without trying!).13
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I've been Dr. Lustig on youtube. Search on "Sugar: The Bitter Truth". He started with asking what the Japanese diet and Aktin's diet have in common. The answer is they are both low fructose diets.
@dykask
Have you read the counterpoint to Dr Lustig's theory about fructose?
https://alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/3 -
Personally I like carbs and carbs like me.
I have a very heavy exercise routine including endurance cycling and carbs are the perfect fuel for me.
I also hate feeling restricted so it's definitely something I wouldn't consider. I enjoy a wide and varied diet, eating food I like is a pleasure and also a big part of my social life.3 -
For me, killed my kidneys
On a less serious note, no breads or pastas. Screw that lol...plus, I've been losing weight more steadily and faster by counting calories vs counting carb
/facepalm....sorry...I see I already wrote something4 -
Why would I wanna miss out on lovely carb goodness?2
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lenoresdream wrote: »Annahbananas wrote: »I've tried the Keto diet and I certainly lost weight but it never worked for me long term. I hate restricting foods to the point where i cannot have them.
And a more important issue: my kidneys are only 40% effective after the dieting on Keto . Before the dieting on Keto my kidney functions were 100% because I had an intensive physical before I went into the Police Academy. My endocrinologists are saying it was from me yo yo I got on the Keto diet. Take it for what it's worth, but the Keto diet almost destroyed my kidneys
Plus, I enjoy eating a bowl of spaghetti with parmesan cheese and still lost .6 of a pound that day
I hope your kidneys can recover
You, me, and my nephrologist. It's scary...I won't lie
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I have never had any problems with doing low carb/keto. I have been doing it for 6 months and have lost over 70 pounds WITHOUT exercise. Sometimes you need to expand your horizons and try foods that you would not normally have or face some boredom with same old. Going out to eat has not been a problem for me. You can usually find something to eat on the menu and many times can get restaurants to substitute vegetables for items that are high carb. Look at dietdoctor.com. Lots of good info there. I have looked at it many times and usually find something I have missed or forgotten3
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gonetothedogs19 wrote: »Highly recommended if you are pre-diabetic. It should stop diabetes in its tracks. Your blood sugars won't spike if you are not eating grains and sugar.
This may not be necessary for pre-diabetics. I was pre-diabetic. My last 4 A1C tests 6.2, 6.4, 6.4 and 7.4 in January. I was 308 pounds and 57 years old.
My Dr. said lose weight and get active. That's it. Nothing about Low Carbs. I dropped 35 pounds by the end of April and saw him on April 28th. My A1C was 5.4
I have since dropped down to (weighed in today ) 246 pounds. I go see Doc the end of the month and hope all tests are good!
Each case is different, but Low Carb is NOT the only answer for pre-diabetics. Lose weight and get ACTIVE!7 -
I've been Dr. Lustig on youtube. Search on "Sugar: The Bitter Truth". He started with asking what the Japanese diet and Aktin's diet have in common. The answer is they are both low fructose diets.
@dykask
Have you read the counterpoint to Dr Lustig's theory about fructose?
https://alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/
Yes and that is written by a nutritionist who seems to have a vested interests in asserting it is only calorie consumption causing the issues. Who do you think would understand the toxic effects of fructose more, an endocrinologist working with specialists in multiple fields or a solo nutritionist? My impression of that rebuttal is that he is hoping that people haven't listen closely to Dr. Lustig's presentations. Additionally much of the nitpicks is just from a slight twist on perspective. Alan Aragon even goes to far as saying "His concluding recommendations included kicking out liquid calories except milk, which is generally a good strategy for children." Really? Only children? He is picking on nits and throwing out dubious claims himself.
While some of the points in the blog have validity, the blog really paints a distorted view Dr. Lustig's well put together presentations. So why are you defending comsuming fructose? Sure it can't be always avoided but there way to many forms of sugar are added to foods today is insane. Anyway, I've seen you post your link in multiple threads. Why are you pushing consumption of fructose?
Currently I sure there is really something too avoiding added sugar. By avoiding added sugar I no longer have the driving hunger that prevented me from keeping a calorie deficit. It was after I found something that worked that I then started trying to understand what was going on. So I'm only sharing something that works for me. Cutting back on added sugar has only seem to help me.
This morning I took 10 grams of added sugar out of my breakfast. It still tasted fine. The only harm is my breakfast has about 40 fewer calories in it. I still feel just as satisfied. This will put be below adding 10 grams of sugar a day to my food.3 -
I've been Dr. Lustig on youtube. Search on "Sugar: The Bitter Truth". He started with asking what the Japanese diet and Aktin's diet have in common. The answer is they are both low fructose diets.
@dykask
Have you read the counterpoint to Dr Lustig's theory about fructose?
https://alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/
Who do you think would understand a part of nutrition more, someone with a masters degree in nutrition or a doctor specializing in something that is not nutrition?5
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