told i am eating to little because of the amount of calories burned?

Only 64 ounces of water at your weight with all that sodium? I'd be drinking more water if I were you.

synacious wrote: »

The more sodium you consume the more water you should drink to offset the water retention, so I'd say you should try to at least add 24 fluid ounces of water on top of that 64 to start. You also say you're doing intense exercise almost every day and walking a lot on top of that which requires more water. As per your diary, you only drink coffee and muscle milk on occasion; I see no other drinks logged throughout the day. I'm guessing the protein powder you mix with water? One rule of thumb is usually to take half your body weight and drink that many ounces of water. That would be 145 ounces for you. You should probably try to work up to that amount, give or take a few ounces.

When I looked earlier it appeared he was using the MFP water counter. I assumed he was drinking just water for his drinks.

There is a lot of disagreement on the rule of thumb. Even MFP's recommendation isn't based off of any solid science. Generally, if your urine isn't dark coloured, you are probably getting enough water.

senennieves wrote: »

So how much water should I be drinking ???

I downloaded the "drink water app" from android. It uses your gender, age, and weight to calculate water needs. I'm a 36 year old woman at 175lb and it has me at about 81oz a day. I usually drink 90-100 oz. You probably need more than me. Just like calorie needs water will not be the same from person to person.

MFP sets the same water minimum for everyone. Its a great site for counting calories and connecting with a community but not for monitoring hydration. I suspect you are retaining water because you aren't drinking enough.

senennieves wrote: »

Also its only been 2 weeks that I have not lost weight, but I did lose qunter of a inch on my thighs. Also I started P90 on Monday, so my muscles are sore from the 25 minute workout, so the fact I could be holding on to 5 - 6 lbs of water seems very possible, and I am not miserable, I just wanted to make sure I am doing everything that I can to lose rthe weight, and my goal is July 2017, do I got a year to lose 90 lbs, I think that is reasonable

A quarter inch off you thighs is an excellent result.

Tell me something, in the patently impossible and absurd situation where you don't lose a single lb but you replace all your fat with muscle and you become the leanest meanest 290lb human machine ever built, i.e. by July 2017 you're one big muscle..... would you have failed? Because, you know, in that case you would not have lost 90lbs.

IF by July 2017 you have lost 100lbs of which 60lbs is fat and 40lbs is muscle would you have failed? Because you would have lost 100lbs... a win by your standard. But for me starting from an obese level a 1.5 : 1 fat to lean loss is not a great result. if you were in the bottom half of your normal weight zone on the other hand, it might be as good as you would expect to achieve by just cutting calories

Let me make it simpler still! Would you prefer to lose 90lbs of fat and 0lbs of lean mass (another impossibility) for a total loss of 90lbs of scale weight, or would you prefer to lose 100lbs of fat and gain 20 lbs of lean mass for an 80lb loss of scale weight

So, you see, from my point of view there are more important things than setting a specific target


Should you AIM for a GENERAL target? Yes: that is what you do by setting a reasonable deficit (i.e. approximately 20% of your tdee (up to maybe 25% while you're classified as obese)

But maintaining your general weight loss, exercising appropriately, having fun, and learning how to do the new you are much more important aspects than whether you will be 90lbs down or 50 lbs down a year from now.

I could even argue that being 50lbs down a year from now has advantages over being down 90 lbs though others may point out that weight regain is not predicated on speed of loss.

In any case, a 90lb goal which comes to less than 2lbs a week is not a totally unreasonable goal... what is unreasonable is putting too much emphasis on that number.... because even 30lbs off for a year is a heck of a victory!

You may want to play with https://www.supertracker.usda.gov/bwp/index.html *switch to expert mode* to consider various what if scenarios. Losing weight does not have to be an all or nothing deal.

I can't argue with your goal too much because hey: I was initially aiming for 1000 Cal a day before realising that it is much more important to consider sustainability and changing my deficit to 750 Cal a day

But I will certainly argue with the absurdity of pursuing a sub 1000 Cal a day deficit goal by trying to achieve 4000 Cal a day deficits.

Try using a heart rate monitor instead of the fitbit for calculating calories burned at work.

I'm 5'9" and was 215, my job doesn't have much walking but I lift 30,000 pounds (sometimes more) in a work day. I do cardio a few times a week, and just started using a TRX.
I shoot for ~2,500 calories/day and have been losing an average of 2 pounds/week, now down to 194.

Big thing for me was completely stopping soda and almost all processed sugar (get 5-10 grams/day in processed sugar now). It also dropped my blood pressure by 10 points, latest research is sugar is what's bad for blood pressure and salt not so much.

senennieves wrote: »

I have a fitbit and it monitors my daily activities. I with 290. and I work security, I con duct foot patrols half my 7 hour shift, so i log 20, 000 steps I night, plus what I burn, usually total us 4500 to 5300 depending on the patrold

I'm in the wrong job. I work 12.5hr shifts on a busy ward and only burn 3000. 26k+ steps gets me 3200 calories total.

Jcl81 wrote: »

senennieves wrote: »

i have not losed any weight in 2 weeks, but i lost 1/4 inch in my thighs and my neck, and my energy level is pretty good, i am eating 1600 -1800 calories per day out of 2000 calories allowed and i feel fine, no cravings, im am getting over 100 grams of protein a day also

Sounds like you gained some lean mass. It can happen no matter what the people on this forum think. Everyone is different. Although, it won't always be that way, you'll eventually lose weight.

Ignore this.

Well...

Set yourself to active in MFP
Make sure Fitbit overrides the calories in MFP

Then...

senennieves wrote: »

okay first of all the 5000 calories is not from exercise alone, example if i was paralized and lay in a bed 24 hours a day will my body burn calories, yes it would to live, for my organs to keep me alive, then when you add walking at 290 lbs for 20, 000 steps that's when you get a total of 4500 - 5200 calories burned if 175 lb man walks a mile, and a 400 lb man walks the same mile with him, and all other factors are equal who burned the most calories, answer the 400 lb man, i am not trying to be a body builder with 20 inch biceps, i just want to get in good health and fit and lose the fat, my doctor told me to go take a spinning class, he said i want you to improve your cardio vascular system, people are telling me Fitbit is Wrong, MFP is wrong, dont eat food with soduim, i don't have the time to prep most of my meals, most food have soduim, in can up my food intake to 2500, if i am eating to low, i can drink 3 gallons of water a day, if need be, but how many calories is a 290 man supposed to eat to lose 2 lbs a week, because everyone has a different opinion, im not lifting alot of weight in P90, P90 is for people who never exercise to slowly get back into it, i do pushups, situps squats, jog in place, and we use a 15 lb power band to do biceps curls, overhead presses, etc, et , i am eating 1700 - 1900 calories, out of 2000 allowed, am i supposed to eat back the calories i burn from exercise?

You should be eating back at least some of your exercise calories. But don't force yourself if you truly aren't hungry. MFP is designed with your deficit in place and for you to eat back any exercise logged. Some of those numbers aren't that accurate (I find that my fitbit has been very accurate in this) so people only eat back a percentage. Pick a percentage to start with, say 50%, and reevaluate after a few weeks based on your rate of loss.

OP, I'm curious which Fitbit you're using. I accept Fitbit saying you do burn 4000-5000 calories a day. Some of them can be weird though, like some of the wrist ones don't count walking unless you wave your hands around or I got a dodgy Zip that gave me an extremely high TDEE.

I hope you're finding some answers here. Best of luck.

Enjcg5 wrote: »

Fitbits are notorious for overestimating the burns. You will not go into starvation mode eating 2k/day. Are you measuring ALL of your food to get to that number?

My fitbit has NEVER overestimated to THAT high amount, I would reset my fitbit if I were OP. If I'm lucky, I'll get 4-600 more than expected, but never in the thousands...lol

With your weight, you're probably okay for now. Try eating up to 2000 calories though. When your deficit is too high, your resting metabolic rate drops more and that's when you burn the most body fat (you don't burn that much body fat doing physical activity of any kind).

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