Disadvantages of Keto diet

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  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    edited June 2016
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    Wait pineapple has low sugar? It always tastes incredibly sweet to me. Off to check USDA...

    ETA: So far, stawberries seems to be the winner with 5g of sugar per 100g of fruit, and grapefruit isn't far behind with 7g. Apples, blueberries, and pineapple all have around 10g, and bananas have 12g.
  • dykask
    dykask Posts: 800 Member
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    auddii wrote: »
    Wait pineapple has low sugar? It always tastes incredibly sweet to me. Off to check USDA...

    ETA: So far, stawberries seems to be the winner with 5g of sugar per 100g of fruit, and grapefruit isn't far behind with 7g. Apples, blueberries, and pineapple all have around 10g, and bananas have 12g.

    Bananas is reason enough for me not to do low carb. There is also raisins, prunes, apples, watermelon, persimmons, dates, peaches, plums, oranges, mikan, grapes, kiwi, cantaloupe and honeydew melons. Probably more, but you get the point.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    edited June 2016
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    dykask wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    Wait pineapple has low sugar? It always tastes incredibly sweet to me. Off to check USDA...

    ETA: So far, stawberries seems to be the winner with 5g of sugar per 100g of fruit, and grapefruit isn't far behind with 7g. Apples, blueberries, and pineapple all have around 10g, and bananas have 12g.

    Bananas is reason enough for me not to do low carb. There is also raisins, prunes, apples, watermelon, persimmons, dates, peaches, plums, oranges, mikan, grapes, kiwi, cantaloupe and honeydew melons. Probably more, but you get the point.

    Figs!! You forgot figs!! LOL
  • dykask
    dykask Posts: 800 Member
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    queenliz99 wrote: »
    dykask wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    Wait pineapple has low sugar? It always tastes incredibly sweet to me. Off to check USDA...

    ETA: So far, stawberries seems to be the winner with 5g of sugar per 100g of fruit, and grapefruit isn't far behind with 7g. Apples, blueberries, and pineapple all have around 10g, and bananas have 12g.

    Bananas is reason enough for me not to do low carb. There is also raisins, prunes, apples, watermelon, persimmons, dates, peaches, plums, oranges, mikan, grapes, kiwi, cantaloupe and honeydew melons. Probably more, but you get the point.

    Figs!! You forgot figs!! LOL

    ... and mangos! Although mangos are a bit messy to eat. Low carb actually could be pretty brutal even without going into ketosis. Personally I think cutting all/most added sugar is much easier and probably more effective. That can be pretty much done for free although it does cost time reading labels.
  • the_new_mark_2017
    the_new_mark_2017 Posts: 149 Member
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    I like carbs too much.
  • lenoresdream
    lenoresdream Posts: 522 Member
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    Annahbananas wrote: »
    I've tried the Keto diet and I certainly lost weight but it never worked for me long term. I hate restricting foods to the point where i cannot have them.

    And a more important issue: my kidneys are only 40% effective after the dieting on Keto . Before the dieting on Keto my kidney functions were 100% because I had an intensive physical before I went into the Police Academy. My endocrinologists are saying it was from me yo yo I got on the Keto diet. Take it for what it's worth, but the Keto diet almost destroyed my kidneys

    Plus, I enjoy eating a bowl of spaghetti with parmesan cheese and still lost .6 of a pound that day
    Oh goodness that's scary! :o

    I hope your kidneys can recover :worried:

  • dykask
    dykask Posts: 800 Member
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    I've been Dr. Lustig on youtube. Search on "Sugar: The Bitter Truth". He started with asking what the Japanese diet and Aktin's diet have in common. The answer is they are both low fructose diets.

    I got interested in the topic because for me, cutting sugar has helped a great deal. I don't have any serious hunger even with a calorie deficit. I'm losing body fat. I stopped two years ago because I couldn't handle the hunger.

    A LCHF diet is just too restrictive for me. Even if it had amazing advantages, I simply couldn't follow it where I currently live. However, cutting sugar is working for me and no one faults you for trying to avoid sugar. I think in the US it would be really much harder to do, but diabetics do it, so it must be possible. In the end there is really very little changes to the diet. I haven't cut fruit and I eat a lot of fruit at breakfast. 4 to 5 servings. However I've cut refined sugar down to 20 grams / day and I think it is really helping. I'm planning on taking it down to 10 grams / day.

    Getting back on the LCHF disavantages.
    * Very little fruit. To me that just doesn't fly.
    * Hard to eat enough calories from heathy fats without carbs. Personally, I like fish but I don't think it wist to eat that much fish everyday, ect. So I think I would end up choosing less healthy options.
    * I don't like feeling sick and I would probably get the keto-flu.
    * It would interfere with my workouts at least for a while. While it would probably help my running once in ketosis, I don't like running that much. :disappointed:
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,811 Member
    edited July 2016
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    dykask wrote: »
    I've been Dr. Lustig on youtube. Search on "Sugar: The Bitter Truth". He started with asking what the Japanese diet and Aktin's diet have in common. The answer is they are both low fructose diets.

    @dykask

    Have you read the counterpoint to Dr Lustig's theory about fructose?

    https://alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,811 Member
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    Personally I like carbs and carbs like me.
    I have a very heavy exercise routine including endurance cycling and carbs are the perfect fuel for me.

    I also hate feeling restricted so it's definitely something I wouldn't consider. I enjoy a wide and varied diet, eating food I like is a pleasure and also a big part of my social life.
  • Annahbananas
    Annahbananas Posts: 284 Member
    edited July 2016
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    For me, killed my kidneys

    On a less serious note, no breads or pastas. Screw that lol...plus, I've been losing weight more steadily and faster by counting calories vs counting carb

    /facepalm....sorry...I see I already wrote something
  • robs_ready
    robs_ready Posts: 1,488 Member
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    Why would I wanna miss out on lovely carb goodness?
  • Annahbananas
    Annahbananas Posts: 284 Member
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    lenoresdream wrote: »
    Annahbananas wrote: »
    I've tried the Keto diet and I certainly lost weight but it never worked for me long term. I hate restricting foods to the point where i cannot have them.

    And a more important issue: my kidneys are only 40% effective after the dieting on Keto . Before the dieting on Keto my kidney functions were 100% because I had an intensive physical before I went into the Police Academy. My endocrinologists are saying it was from me yo yo I got on the Keto diet. Take it for what it's worth, but the Keto diet almost destroyed my kidneys

    Plus, I enjoy eating a bowl of spaghetti with parmesan cheese and still lost .6 of a pound that day
    Oh goodness that's scary! :o

    I hope your kidneys can recover :worried:

    You, me, and my nephrologist. It's scary...I won't lie
  • billglitch
    billglitch Posts: 538 Member
    edited July 2016
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    I have never had any problems with doing low carb/keto. I have been doing it for 6 months and have lost over 70 pounds WITHOUT exercise. Sometimes you need to expand your horizons and try foods that you would not normally have or face some boredom with same old. Going out to eat has not been a problem for me. You can usually find something to eat on the menu and many times can get restaurants to substitute vegetables for items that are high carb. Look at dietdoctor.com. Lots of good info there. I have looked at it many times and usually find something I have missed or forgotten
  • dykask
    dykask Posts: 800 Member
    edited July 2016
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    sijomial wrote: »
    dykask wrote: »
    I've been Dr. Lustig on youtube. Search on "Sugar: The Bitter Truth". He started with asking what the Japanese diet and Aktin's diet have in common. The answer is they are both low fructose diets.

    @dykask

    Have you read the counterpoint to Dr Lustig's theory about fructose?

    https://alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/

    Yes and that is written by a nutritionist who seems to have a vested interests in asserting it is only calorie consumption causing the issues. Who do you think would understand the toxic effects of fructose more, an endocrinologist working with specialists in multiple fields or a solo nutritionist? My impression of that rebuttal is that he is hoping that people haven't listen closely to Dr. Lustig's presentations. Additionally much of the nitpicks is just from a slight twist on perspective. Alan Aragon even goes to far as saying "His concluding recommendations included kicking out liquid calories except milk, which is generally a good strategy for children." Really? Only children? He is picking on nits and throwing out dubious claims himself.

    While some of the points in the blog have validity, the blog really paints a distorted view Dr. Lustig's well put together presentations. So why are you defending comsuming fructose? Sure it can't be always avoided but there way to many forms of sugar are added to foods today is insane. Anyway, I've seen you post your link in multiple threads. Why are you pushing consumption of fructose?

    Currently I sure there is really something too avoiding added sugar. By avoiding added sugar I no longer have the driving hunger that prevented me from keeping a calorie deficit. It was after I found something that worked that I then started trying to understand what was going on. So I'm only sharing something that works for me. Cutting back on added sugar has only seem to help me.

    This morning I took 10 grams of added sugar out of my breakfast. It still tasted fine. The only harm is my breakfast has about 40 fewer calories in it. I still feel just as satisfied. This will put be below adding 10 grams of sugar a day to my food.

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