Aspartame ( artificial sweeteners)

healthy491
healthy491 Posts: 384 Member
edited December 2 in Health and Weight Loss
There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

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  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    robs_ready wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    This has been discussed many times on this board.

    Sweater comprises of 2 amino acids, which have been proven time and time again to be safe, yet Americana are paranoid to death of it.

    There's was a test done on mice years ago, supposedly the mice developed cancerous cells, leading to the biggest logical fallacy surrounding it.

    Mice and humans are biologically different.

    If you have a sweet tooth, sweetner is a Lower calorie option, it's completely safe.

    The mice also got the equivalent of something ridulous like 20 liter diet soda every single day of their lives starting from maturity.
  • robs_ready
    robs_ready Posts: 1,488 Member
    robs_ready wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    This has been discussed many times on this board.

    Sweater comprises of 2 amino acids, which have been proven time and time again to be safe, yet Americana are paranoid to death of it.

    There's was a test done on mice years ago, supposedly the mice developed cancerous cells, leading to the biggest logical fallacy surrounding it.

    Mice and humans are biologically different.

    If you have a sweet tooth, sweetner is a Lower calorie option, it's completely safe.

    The mice also got the equivalent of something ridulous like 20 liter diet soda every single day of their lives starting from maturity.

    Exactly, and let's be honest anything in that amount will be inherently bad for you.
  • healthy491
    healthy491 Posts: 384 Member
    robs_ready wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    This has been discussed many times on this board.

    Sweater comprises of 2 amino acids, which have been proven time and time again to be safe, yet Americana are paranoid to death of it.

    There's was a test done on mice years ago, supposedly the mice developed cancerous cells, leading to the biggest logical fallacy surrounding it.

    Mice and humans are biologically different.

    If you have a sweet tooth, sweetner is a Lower calorie option, it's completely safe.

    The mice also got the equivalent of something ridulous like 20 liter diet soda every single day of their lives starting from maturity.

    Exactly, and let's be honest anything in that amount will be inherently bad for you.

    Wow , Thats ridicolous ..And even worse , most people and nutritionists from all around the world , not just America , think artificial sweeteners cause weight gain
  • robs_ready
    robs_ready Posts: 1,488 Member
    healthy491 wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    This has been discussed many times on this board.

    Sweater comprises of 2 amino acids, which have been proven time and time again to be safe, yet Americana are paranoid to death of it.

    There's was a test done on mice years ago, supposedly the mice developed cancerous cells, leading to the biggest logical fallacy surrounding it.

    Mice and humans are biologically different.

    If you have a sweet tooth, sweetner is a Lower calorie option, it's completely safe.

    The mice also got the equivalent of something ridulous like 20 liter diet soda every single day of their lives starting from maturity.

    Exactly, and let's be honest anything in that amount will be inherently bad for you.

    Wow , Thats ridicolous ..And even worse , most people and nutritionists from all around the world , not just America , think artificial sweeteners cause weight gain

    If it's that ridiculous why start a thread? Show me the sources then lol
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
    healthy491 wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    This has been discussed many times on this board.

    Sweater comprises of 2 amino acids, which have been proven time and time again to be safe, yet Americana are paranoid to death of it.

    There's was a test done on mice years ago, supposedly the mice developed cancerous cells, leading to the biggest logical fallacy surrounding it.

    Mice and humans are biologically different.

    If you have a sweet tooth, sweetner is a Lower calorie option, it's completely safe.

    The mice also got the equivalent of something ridulous like 20 liter diet soda every single day of their lives starting from maturity.

    Exactly, and let's be honest anything in that amount will be inherently bad for you.

    Wow , Thats ridicolous ..And even worse , most people and nutritionists from all around the world , not just America , think artificial sweeteners cause weight gain

    Citation needed
  • CooCooPuff
    CooCooPuff Posts: 4,374 Member
    The removal of aspartame made Diet Pepsi taste terrible. That alone should bw enough reason to support it.
  • healthy491
    healthy491 Posts: 384 Member
    healthy491 wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    This has been discussed many times on this board.

    Sweater comprises of 2 amino acids, which have been proven time and time again to be safe, yet Americana are paranoid to death of it.

    There's was a test done on mice years ago, supposedly the mice developed cancerous cells, leading to the biggest logical fallacy surrounding it.

    Mice and humans are biologically different.

    If you have a sweet tooth, sweetner is a Lower calorie option, it's completely safe.

    The mice also got the equivalent of something ridulous like 20 liter diet soda every single day of their lives starting from maturity.

    Exactly, and let's be honest anything in that amount will be inherently bad for you.

    Wow , Thats ridicolous ..And even worse , most people and nutritionists from all around the world , not just America , think artificial sweeteners cause weight gain

    Citation needed

    Of what?

  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,645 Member
    I don't think anything your body "cannot digest" could contribute to weight gain. Make your poos a little heavier, maybe.

    In order for something to be stored as fuel (fat stores), it has to have fuel (calories) in the first place.
  • robs_ready
    robs_ready Posts: 1,488 Member
    healthy491 wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    This has been discussed many times on this board.

    Sweater comprises of 2 amino acids, which have been proven time and time again to be safe, yet Americana are paranoid to death of it.

    There's was a test done on mice years ago, supposedly the mice developed cancerous cells, leading to the biggest logical fallacy surrounding it.

    Mice and humans are biologically different.

    If you have a sweet tooth, sweetner is a Lower calorie option, it's completely safe.

    The mice also got the equivalent of something ridulous like 20 liter diet soda every single day of their lives starting from maturity.

    Exactly, and let's be honest anything in that amount will be inherently bad for you.

    Wow , Thats ridicolous ..And even worse , most people and nutritionists from all around the world , not just America , think artificial sweeteners cause weight gain

    Citation needed

    Of what?

    Your Claim?
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    robs_ready wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    This has been discussed many times on this board.

    Sweater comprises of 2 amino acids, which have been proven time and time again to be safe, yet Americana are paranoid to death of it.

    There's was a test done on mice years ago, supposedly the mice developed cancerous cells, leading to the biggest logical fallacy surrounding it.

    Mice and humans are biologically different.

    If you have a sweet tooth, sweetner is a Lower calorie option, it's completely safe.

    The mice also got the equivalent of something ridulous like 20 liter diet soda every single day of their lives starting from maturity.

    Exactly, and let's be honest anything in that amount will be inherently bad for you.

    Wow , Thats ridicolous ..And even worse , most people and nutritionists from all around the world , not just America , think artificial sweeteners cause weight gain

    Citation needed

    Of what?

    Your Claim?

    What's her claim? I think she said that the study was ridiculous and what's worse is that many nutritionists think artificial sweeteners cause weight gain.
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    edited July 2016
    robs_ready wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    This has been discussed many times on this board.

    Sweater comprises of 2 amino acids, which have been proven time and time again to be safe, yet Americana are paranoid to death of it.

    There's was a test done on mice years ago, supposedly the mice developed cancerous cells, leading to the biggest logical fallacy surrounding it.

    Mice and humans are biologically different.

    If you have a sweet tooth, sweetner is a Lower calorie option, it's completely safe.

    The mice also got the equivalent of something ridulous like 20 liter diet soda every single day of their lives starting from maturity.

    Also, weren't the mice from a sub group that were bred to develop cancer more frequently making them a terrible group to test possible carcinogens on?
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    How could something cause weight gain without being digested? Foods that are not digested are expelled as waste.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    healthy491 wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    This has been discussed many times on this board.

    Sweater comprises of 2 amino acids, which have been proven time and time again to be safe, yet Americana are paranoid to death of it.

    There's was a test done on mice years ago, supposedly the mice developed cancerous cells, leading to the biggest logical fallacy surrounding it.

    Mice and humans are biologically different.

    If you have a sweet tooth, sweetner is a Lower calorie option, it's completely safe.

    The mice also got the equivalent of something ridulous like 20 liter diet soda every single day of their lives starting from maturity.

    Exactly, and let's be honest anything in that amount will be inherently bad for you.

    Wow , Thats ridicolous ..And even worse , most people and nutritionists from all around the world , not just America , think artificial sweeteners cause weight gain

    I've never heard this. I think maybe you are confusing 'cause' with association. Statistically, people who drink diet drinks tend to weigh more. That in no way means that artificial sweeteners cause weight gain. More likely it means that overweight people tend to drink diet drinks to lose weight.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    healthy491 wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    This has been discussed many times on this board.

    Sweater comprises of 2 amino acids, which have been proven time and time again to be safe, yet Americana are paranoid to death of it.

    There's was a test done on mice years ago, supposedly the mice developed cancerous cells, leading to the biggest logical fallacy surrounding it.

    Mice and humans are biologically different.

    If you have a sweet tooth, sweetner is a Lower calorie option, it's completely safe.

    The mice also got the equivalent of something ridulous like 20 liter diet soda every single day of their lives starting from maturity.

    Exactly, and let's be honest anything in that amount will be inherently bad for you.

    Wow , Thats ridicolous ..And even worse , most people and nutritionists from all around the world , not just America , think artificial sweeteners cause weight gain

    It's because its trendy and will get hits. People rather believe something is bad, then recognize the countless amounts of studies that suggest otherwise. At this point in nutrition history, it's cool to say that anything that isn't from the earth is going to cause weight gain, even though it's 0 calories and made up of two natural occurring amino acids.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,026 Member
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.
    It DOES NOT cause weight gain. It's not a drug nor does it have calories. You need excess calories to gain weight. Some may eat more because they sense that drinking a zero calorie drink has saved them room, but again, aspartame isn't the cause.
    And our bodies digest it just fine (unless someone has PKU). Don't believe all the hype.


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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,026 Member
    healthy491 wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    This has been discussed many times on this board.

    Sweater comprises of 2 amino acids, which have been proven time and time again to be safe, yet Americana are paranoid to death of it.

    There's was a test done on mice years ago, supposedly the mice developed cancerous cells, leading to the biggest logical fallacy surrounding it.

    Mice and humans are biologically different.

    If you have a sweet tooth, sweetner is a Lower calorie option, it's completely safe.

    The mice also got the equivalent of something ridulous like 20 liter diet soda every single day of their lives starting from maturity.

    Exactly, and let's be honest anything in that amount will be inherently bad for you.

    Wow , Thats ridicolous ..And even worse , most people and nutritionists from all around the world , not just America , think artificial sweeteners cause weight gain
    Opinion. Look a peer reviewed clinical studies on it.
    Most people believe that dieting is the best way to lose weight. And 90% can't maintain doing it.

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  • ForecasterJason
    ForecasterJason Posts: 2,577 Member
    There are plenty of anecdotal accounts of artificial sweeteners causing some issues for some people, but not weight gain.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,026 Member
    healthy491 wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    This has been discussed many times on this board.

    Sweater comprises of 2 amino acids, which have been proven time and time again to be safe, yet Americana are paranoid to death of it.

    There's was a test done on mice years ago, supposedly the mice developed cancerous cells, leading to the biggest logical fallacy surrounding it.

    Mice and humans are biologically different.

    If you have a sweet tooth, sweetner is a Lower calorie option, it's completely safe.

    The mice also got the equivalent of something ridulous like 20 liter diet soda every single day of their lives starting from maturity.

    Exactly, and let's be honest anything in that amount will be inherently bad for you.

    Wow , Thats ridicolous ..And even worse , most people and nutritionists from all around the world , not just America , think artificial sweeteners cause weight gain

    Citation needed

    Of what?
    Of what you're saying. Where is the actual data that most people and nutritionists (not a credible source anyway) site that artificial sweeteners are the CAUSE of weight gain. The math doesn't make sense if it's a zero calorie additive.

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  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    robs_ready wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    This has been discussed many times on this board.

    Sweater comprises of 2 amino acids, which have been proven time and time again to be safe, yet Americana are paranoid to death of it.

    There's was a test done on mice years ago, supposedly the mice developed cancerous cells, leading to the biggest logical fallacy surrounding it.

    Mice and humans are biologically different.

    If you have a sweet tooth, sweetner is a Lower calorie option, it's completely safe.

    The mice also got the equivalent of something ridulous like 20 liter diet soda every single day of their lives starting from maturity.

    Exactly, and let's be honest anything in that amount will be inherently bad for you.

    Wow , Thats ridicolous ..And even worse , most people and nutritionists from all around the world , not just America , think artificial sweeteners cause weight gain

    Citation needed

    Of what?
    Of what you're saying. Where is the actual data that most people and nutritionists (not a credible source anyway) site that artificial sweeteners are the CAUSE of weight gain. The math doesn't make sense if it's a zero calorie additive.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
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    She isn't saying that. She is repeating what others are saying.
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    She said:
    Wow , Thats ridicolous ..And even worse , most people and nutritionists from all around the world , not just America , think artificial sweeteners cause weight gain

    Where does she get that "most people and nutrionists" think that? Lots of people? Sure. But "most?"
  • weali
    weali Posts: 37 Member
    robs_ready wrote: »
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    This has been discussed many times on this board.

    Sweater comprises of 2 amino acids, which have been proven time and time again to be safe, yet Americana are paranoid to death of it.

    There's was a test done on mice years ago, supposedly the mice developed cancerous cells, leading to the biggest logical fallacy surrounding it.

    Mice and humans are biologically different.

    If you have a sweet tooth, sweetner is a Lower calorie option, it's completely safe.


    it always reminds me of the whole 'vaccines cause autism'...if you're ok with (or like) the taste of aspartame then use it if you don't like it then use regular sugar products (sugar, agave, honey, etc) in the end it's all about moderation
  • ouryve
    ouryve Posts: 572 Member
    My opinion is that aspartame tastes revolting and I'd rather avoid it (though I might have a very occasional diet coke if the nasty taste is covered up by a bit of rum or vodka!)
  • weali
    weali Posts: 37 Member
    I don't think anything your body "cannot digest" could contribute to weight gain. Make your poos a little heavier, maybe.

    In order for something to be stored as fuel (fat stores), it has to have fuel (calories) in the first place.
    How could something cause weight gain without being digested? Foods that are not digested are expelled as waste.


    People tend to not realize just how strong stomach acid is...chewing gum (which apparently isn't biodegradable) gets broken down (mostly--only the gum base doesn't) by the acid in our stomachs

    https://www.reference.com/science/long-chewing-gum-decompose-5a80277038e3f0c0#
    http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130625-does-gum-take-years-to-digest

  • debrag12
    debrag12 Posts: 1,071 Member
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    Does sweetcorn make us fat also?

  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    weali wrote: »
    I don't think anything your body "cannot digest" could contribute to weight gain. Make your poos a little heavier, maybe.

    In order for something to be stored as fuel (fat stores), it has to have fuel (calories) in the first place.
    How could something cause weight gain without being digested? Foods that are not digested are expelled as waste.


    People tend to not realize just how strong stomach acid is...chewing gum (which apparently isn't biodegradable) gets broken down (mostly--only the gum base doesn't) by the acid in our stomachs

    https://www.reference.com/science/long-chewing-gum-decompose-5a80277038e3f0c0#
    http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130625-does-gum-take-years-to-digest

    I'm wondering why you quoted my post. What in the world does gum have to do with what I said??
  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,645 Member
    edited July 2016
    weali wrote: »
    I don't think anything your body "cannot digest" could contribute to weight gain. Make your poos a little heavier, maybe.

    In order for something to be stored as fuel (fat stores), it has to have fuel (calories) in the first place.
    How could something cause weight gain without being digested? Foods that are not digested are expelled as waste.


    People tend to not realize just how strong stomach acid is...chewing gum (which apparently isn't biodegradable) gets broken down (mostly--only the gum base doesn't) by the acid in our stomachs

    https://www.reference.com/science/long-chewing-gum-decompose-5a80277038e3f0c0#
    http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130625-does-gum-take-years-to-digest

    I'm not sure how that relates to what I said. If something can't be broken down in the digestive tract, it can't be used or stored as fuel. Your body can't burn undigested gum base.
  • cinnag4225
    cinnag4225 Posts: 126 Member
    healthy491 wrote: »
    There was a debate online , whether artificial sweeteners , especially aspartame cause weight gain or other issues as our body cannot digest it and stuff.
    What are your opinions on this? I think its an interesting topic.

    I can't speak from a study perspective, but anecdotally I and a few of my relatives tend to develop chronic migraines, increased appetite and sugar cravings when we use aspartame-based sweeteners, but I know plenty of people who have no issues whatsoever. As with anything, individual metabolisms and moderation are going to have the biggest impact.
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