Russian roulette (muscle confusion) challenge!!!!
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mathewscarlett wrote: »mathewscarlett wrote: »
www.marksdailyapple.com/muscle-imbalances/#axzz4DIba5wiM
To much running is bad for your health. And you dont have to do this workout. I simply posted it, but of course they're has to be negative feedback.
No one is talking about too much running except you. Not sure why.
And we're only trying to explain that this workout won't do what you claim it will do. While this may technically be negative feedback it is a positive thing. We don't want people reading this, going "oh! I need to get some muscle confusion to meet my goals!" and then spinning their wheels because muscle confusion is not a thing.
And why do you keep quoting yourself to say something unrelated to what you quoted?1 -
FunkyTobias wrote: »mathewscarlett wrote: »
www.marksdailyapple.com/muscle-imbalances/#axzz4DIba5wiM
Still has nothing to do with muscle confusion
Did you read the whole thing. It talks about muscle imbalance. And it talks a lot about isolation and those standard workouts that most people make the mistake of doing over and over. Well muscle confusion helps stop muscle imbalance by constantly switching workouts.0 -
mathewscarlett wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »mathewscarlett wrote: »
www.marksdailyapple.com/muscle-imbalances/#axzz4DIba5wiM
Still has nothing to do with muscle confusion
Did you read the whole thing. It talks about muscle imbalance. And it talks a lot about isolation and those standard workouts that most people make the mistake of doing over and over. Well muscle confusion helps stop muscle imbalance by constantly switching workouts.
Muscle confusion does not correct muscle imbalance. Muscle imbalance is when one muscle is stronger than the opposing one. It is fixed by working antagonist muscles to strengthen the weak points.
The concept of muscle confusion is the idea that changing your workout every few weeks will provide better results than sticking to the same plan for months on end. The reality of that is that you simply need to increase effort in some way to keep making progress. If you only ever do 20 push ups daily you'll stop making progress. If you do 20 for a few weeks and then 30, 40, 50, and more then you'll make progress.2 -
mathewscarlett wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »mathewscarlett wrote: »Must try
Why?
Its a challenge. Its complete muscle confusion. But if you dont want to then dont. Im just sharing something i know.
I'm trying to get a feel for who you are and why you're suggesting this exercise (going so far as to say people "must try" it, even). Most people come to these forums and engage several different posts. They ask questions. They answer questions. They seek out people similar to them or try to help beginners. But not you. You've only posted on these two posts you started. No introduction. No context. No idea of who you are or what you hope to offer. Nothing.
Why should people try this exercise? You're on a board with everything from record holders to 80-year-old women with arthritis. Which of them are you trying to reach out to? What will this exercise do for them? Trying this program may require them to put their own program aside. Why would this be worth it? Why is this better than a progress lifting program or couch25K or Insanity or P90X or water aerobics or whatever anyone else is doing? Why did you post it here for us? Where did you get it? Did you create this program yourself? Why do you want people to know about this program? Why is it so important to you? Why? Why? Why?
I asked a question in the hope that you could share some more details and hopefully give us some context or a little of your expertise. Why blow me off?
And so I come back around to: why?4 -
mathewscarlett wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »mathewscarlett wrote: »
www.marksdailyapple.com/muscle-imbalances/#axzz4DIba5wiM
Still has nothing to do with muscle confusion
Did you read the whole thing. It talks about muscle imbalance. And it talks a lot about isolation and those standard workouts that most people make the mistake of doing over and over. Well muscle confusion helps stop muscle imbalance by constantly switching workouts.
Muscle confusion does not correct muscle imbalance. Muscle imbalance is when one muscle is stronger than the opposing one. It is fixed by working antagonist muscles to strengthen the weak points.
The concept of muscle confusion is the idea that changing your workout every few weeks will provide better results than sticking to the same plan for months on end. The reality of that is that you simply need to increase effort in some way to keep making progress. If you only ever do 20 push ups daily you'll stop making progress. If you do 20 for a few weeks and then 30, 40, 50, and more then you'll make progress.
Thats not the only type of muscle confusion their is.
Im talking about (muscle confusion workouts).
And you answered why muscle confusion helps muscle imbalance. By (changing) the workouts you do to strengthen the weeker muscle that are getting neglected.0 -
Study-Schmuddy. Who pays for those?
OP --I agree you may want to create a challenge group. You seem like you want to inspire and get people moving.
Many here are already following set programs to achieve their goals.
Switching it up can help when stuck. For instance, if I was stuck at 20! push-ups for months, I may try other moves to help push me through to 30!0 -
diannethegeek wrote: »mathewscarlett wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »mathewscarlett wrote: »Must try
Why?
Its a challenge. Its complete muscle confusion. But if you dont want to then dont. Im just sharing something i know.
I'm trying to get a feel for who you are and why you're suggesting this exercise (going so far as to say people "must try" it, even). Most people come to these forums and engage several different posts. They ask questions. They answer questions. They seek out people similar to them or try to help beginners. But not you. You've only posted on these two posts you started. No introduction. No context. No idea of who you are or what you hope to offer. Nothing.
Why should people try this exercise? You're on a board with everything from record holders to 80-year-old women with arthritis. Which of them are you trying to reach out to? What will this exercise do for them? Trying this program may require them to put their own program aside. Why would this be worth it? Why is this better than a progress lifting program or couch25K or Insanity or P90X or water aerobics or whatever anyone else is doing? Why did you post it here for us? Where did you get it? Did you create this program yourself? Why do you want people to know about this program? Why is it so important to you? Why? Why? Why?
I asked a question in the hope that you could share some more details and hopefully give us some context or a little of your expertise. Why blow me off?
And so I come back around to: why?
Im simply sharing a workout. I don't suggest an 80 year old woman do this workout. I suggest a person who is in shape and wanting to try something new to try it. I like to try new workouts myself. And i dont pick the program appart. I just try it. If i dont like it, then i keep my routine on.0 -
mathewscarlett wrote: »mathewscarlett wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »mathewscarlett wrote: »
www.marksdailyapple.com/muscle-imbalances/#axzz4DIba5wiM
Still has nothing to do with muscle confusion
Did you read the whole thing. It talks about muscle imbalance. And it talks a lot about isolation and those standard workouts that most people make the mistake of doing over and over. Well muscle confusion helps stop muscle imbalance by constantly switching workouts.
Muscle confusion does not correct muscle imbalance. Muscle imbalance is when one muscle is stronger than the opposing one. It is fixed by working antagonist muscles to strengthen the weak points.
The concept of muscle confusion is the idea that changing your workout every few weeks will provide better results than sticking to the same plan for months on end. The reality of that is that you simply need to increase effort in some way to keep making progress. If you only ever do 20 push ups daily you'll stop making progress. If you do 20 for a few weeks and then 30, 40, 50, and more then you'll make progress.
Thats not the only type of muscle confusion their is.
Im talking about (muscle confusion workouts).
And you answered why muscle confusion helps muscle imbalance. By (changing) the workouts you do to strengthen the weeker muscle that are getting neglected.
The workout you outlined doesn't target the weaker muscles though, it's mostly cardio and randomly shuffling exercises doesn't cause confusion. Most of the popular lifting routines out there do help correct muscle imbalance. They have a nice combination of compound lifts and isolation exercises with appropriate volume built in. They also take into consideration how taxing each lift is on the nervous system, to ensure exercises are done in an appropriate order to aid in growth and avoid injury. They divide the body parts into complementary or antagonistic patterns to provide the best response.4 -
mathewscarlett wrote: »mathewscarlett wrote: »
www.marksdailyapple.com/muscle-imbalances/#axzz4DIba5wiM
To much running is bad for your health. And you dont have to do this workout. I simply posted it, but of course they're has to be negative feedback.
Welcome to MFP, where the only right answer is to eat a little less and to do Strong Lifts.6 -
mathewscarlett wrote: »mathewscarlett wrote: »
www.marksdailyapple.com/muscle-imbalances/#axzz4DIba5wiM
To much running is bad for your health. And you dont have to do this workout. I simply posted it, but of course they're has to be negative feedback.
Welcome to MFP, where the only right answer is to eat a little less and to do Strong Lifts. before confusing your muscles, it's good to build a solid strength base. Compound lifting programs can help make the journey less confusing. 0 -
mathewscarlett wrote: »mathewscarlett wrote: »
www.marksdailyapple.com/muscle-imbalances/#axzz4DIba5wiM
To much running is bad for your health. And you dont have to do this workout. I simply posted it, but of course they're has to be negative feedback.
Welcome to MFP, where the only right answer is to eat a little less and to do Strong Lifts.
That's actually quite a good précis0 -
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If you dont want to do the workout. Dont0
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mathewscarlett wrote: »mathewscarlett wrote: »
www.marksdailyapple.com/muscle-imbalances/#axzz4DIba5wiM
To much running is bad for your health. And you dont have to do this workout. I simply posted it, but of course they're has to be negative feedback.
Welcome to MFP, where the only right answer is to eat a little less and to do Strong Lifts.
The workout should align to your goals. If you just want a nice physique, then programs like P90X, insanity, body beast, and all other beachbody programs, will be sufficient. They burn calories, can make you stronger, and can help you reach your goals.
Don't make the concept of muscle confusion right. Muscles don't adapt that quickly to one exercise.0 -
mathewscarlett wrote: »mathewscarlett wrote: »FunkyTobias wrote: »mathewscarlett wrote: »
www.marksdailyapple.com/muscle-imbalances/#axzz4DIba5wiM
Still has nothing to do with muscle confusion
Did you read the whole thing. It talks about muscle imbalance. And it talks a lot about isolation and those standard workouts that most people make the mistake of doing over and over. Well muscle confusion helps stop muscle imbalance by constantly switching workouts.
Muscle confusion does not correct muscle imbalance. Muscle imbalance is when one muscle is stronger than the opposing one. It is fixed by working antagonist muscles to strengthen the weak points.
The concept of muscle confusion is the idea that changing your workout every few weeks will provide better results than sticking to the same plan for months on end. The reality of that is that you simply need to increase effort in some way to keep making progress. If you only ever do 20 push ups daily you'll stop making progress. If you do 20 for a few weeks and then 30, 40, 50, and more then you'll make progress.
Thats not the only type of muscle confusion their is.
Im talking about (muscle confusion workouts).
And you answered why muscle confusion helps muscle imbalance. By (changing) the workouts you do to strengthen the weeker muscle that are getting neglected.
I'm not sure I can even, right now.
The concept of muscle confusion is exactly what USMCMP described. You are the only person I've ever encountered who uses the term differently and I doubt you could provide a single example of someone else using it in the way that you are.
Also, saying "I'm talking about (muscle confusion workouts)" doesn't provide any more information or context for what you're talking about when claiming that "That's not the only type of muscle confusion their [sic] is."
Furthermore, she did not answer "why muscle confusion helps muscle imbalance." She explained that muscle imbalance is corrected by doing opposing movements (triceps extensions in opposition to bicep curls, for example) and not by "muscle confusion." And no, she wasn't talking about "(changing) [sic] the workouts you do to strengthen the weeker [sic] muscle that are getting neglected." She was explaining that the actual concept of muscle confusion is doing an alternate exercise to strengthen the same muscle in a different way. Whereas correcting imbalances is done by working other muscles entirely.
For clarity, "muscle confusion" still does not mean what you think it means.
Neither do parentheses.3 -
I did upside down deadlifts today. It twas quite confusing.6
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mathewscarlett wrote: »If you dont want to do the workout. Dont
Or just tell us who it would actually benefit and what they could hope to gain from doing it.
Other than "because muscle confusion," of course.0 -
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Carlos_421 wrote: »
Both, *kitten* was intense, yo.3 -
I did upside down deadlifts today. It twas quite confusing.
I'm picturing putting a loaded barbell in a power cage, hanging upside down in the power cage, and unracking the barbell - all while hoping the bar doesn't come down and crash into your face.
IOW: yes, I can see how that would be confusing.1 -
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I did upside down deadlifts today. It twas quite confusing.
I'm picturing putting a loaded barbell in a power cage, hanging upside down in the power cage, and unracking the barbell - all while hoping the bar doesn't come down and crash into your face.
IOW: yes, I can see how that would be confusing.
I would call this Weighted Hanging Crunches but that would alleviate the confusion and destroy all the mass gainz.4 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »
#HaveYouSeenTheseGuns1 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »I did upside down deadlifts today. It twas quite confusing.
I'm picturing putting a loaded barbell in a power cage, hanging upside down in the power cage, and unracking the barbell - all while hoping the bar doesn't come down and crash into your face.
IOW: yes, I can see how that would be confusing.
I would call this Weighted Hanging Crunches but that would alleviate the confusion and destroy all the mass gainz.
Yup, the gainz are in the wording... If you call it the wrong thing, #nogainzforyou2 -
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Carlos_421 wrote: »
#HaveYouSeenTheseBuns
Unfortunately.
Touche, my friend....Touche.
#youknowyoulikedit4 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »
#HaveYouSeenTheseBuns
Unfortunately.
Touche, my friend....Touche.
#youknowyoulikedit
giggle......tooshy.........giggle........4 -
I cycled up Zig Zag Road today then turned round and cycled back down and it was still Zig Zag Road but my muscles got really confused because they expected it to be Zag Zig going downwards - they were so confused I got PRs both ways. It works!
All these people are so negative...
OP - the challenges forum may have a more receptive audience to weird and wonderful ideas.
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Carlos_421 wrote: »mathewscarlett wrote: »If you dont want to do the workout. Dont
Or just tell us who it would actually benefit and what they could hope to gain from doing it.
Other than "because muscle confusion," of course.
Well it will help you lose weight, and give you good cardio. It will not only improve muscle strength, but muscle endurance as well. Andi suggest someone who is in shape try this.
And you can make 3 of these workouts or more, and alternate them like workout a, and b.0 -
Carlos_421 wrote: »
#HaveYouSeenTheseBuns
Unfortunately.
#hoggedthemtoyourself4
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