Protein intake

SaliDale
SaliDale Posts: 18 Member
edited December 2 in Food and Nutrition
Just signed up for this app and it is telling me I need to eat 189 grams of protein per day. This is wayyyyyy toooooo much protein. Wondering how accurate this app is?
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  • cgvet37
    cgvet37 Posts: 1,189 Member
    How much do you weigh?
  • SaliDale
    SaliDale Posts: 18 Member
    I took my weight. 185lbs minus my percentage of body weight. Guessed at 20%. 1/2 gram per lean body mass in pounds I come up with 74 grams.
  • SaliDale
    SaliDale Posts: 18 Member
    Lean body weight that is.
  • thanhluu1226
    thanhluu1226 Posts: 1 Member
    Recommended is somewhere from 1g-1.4g protein per pound body weight if you are exercising
  • SaliDale
    SaliDale Posts: 18 Member
    Recommended is somewhere from 1g-1.4g protein per pound body weight if you are exercising

    Actually 1/2 pound per lean body mass. More if you're exercising.
  • sunnybeaches105
    sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
    SaliDale wrote: »
    Recommended is somewhere from 1g-1.4g protein per pound body weight if you are exercising

    Actually 1/2 pound per lean body mass. More if you're exercising.

    If you're trying to improve your body composition then target 0.8 grams per pound of overall body weight or 1 gram per pound of lean body mass, and get yourself on a progressive overload strength program such as a 5x5.
  • Redwineandmuscles
    Redwineandmuscles Posts: 46 Member
    It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.
  • sunnybeaches105
    sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
    edited July 2016
    It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.

    There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.

    As for naturopaths see below.

    http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html

    ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:

    "Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.

    http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7

    More on protein intake (from 2015):

    http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549
  • sunnybeaches105
    sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
    SaliDale wrote: »
    Just signed up for this app and it is telling me I need to eat 189 grams of protein per day. This is wayyyyyy toooooo much protein. Wondering how accurate this app is?

    Also, to get down to another issue you're raising, MFP doesn't calculate protein intake based on the specific number of grams per pound of body weight, lean mass, or even goal weight. It uses a percentage system so that you get a certain percentage of your calories from each of protein, fats, and carbohydrates. In other words, it's shorthand. You can customize your goals and would suggest you do so. That said, as you add exercise (and thereby exercise calories) your target protein, fats, and carbohydrates also increase. You should be getting sufficient protein and fats based on body weight or lean mass and any excess calories from exercise can simply go to carbs, but there's nothing wrong with extra fat or protein.
  • redraidergirl2009
    redraidergirl2009 Posts: 2,560 Member
    No that doesn't sound right
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    edited July 2016
    As a 205 pound male that exercises and is looking to maintain as muscle mass as possible as I age, I aim for 30% of my calories from protein. The USDA, Harvard Med School, etc recommend protein should make up 10-35% of daily calories:
    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/protein/

    I typically eat around 2700 calories a day so doing the math 30% of calories from protein would give 203 grams of protein, or pretty much 1 gram per pound of bodyweight.

    I noted the op is a 49 year old man. .5g per pound would, in most cases put him at the lower end of the recommended range. Not where I would think most people who want to maintain/build muscle mass should be.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    SaliDale wrote: »
    Just signed up for this app and it is telling me I need to eat 189 grams of protein per day. This is wayyyyyy toooooo much protein. Wondering how accurate this app is?

    MFP has protein set at 20%. What's your calorie goal?
  • TheRootofGroot
    TheRootofGroot Posts: 118 Member
    I find that the larger my caloric deficit the higher I want my protein intake to be as well as my workout volume.
    Doing everything I can so that the weight I do lose does not come from broken down muscle tissue.
    And it worked well for me, consistently tracking with a body composition scale from InBody I lost 15lbs of bodyfat and less than a quarter pound of muscle throughout my cut eating between 185-210g a protein a day.
  • jgubdlach
    jgubdlach Posts: 19 Member
    It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.

    There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.

    As for naturopaths see below.

    http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html

    ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:

    "Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.

    http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7

    More on protein intake (from 2015):

    http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549

    The recommended intake is .8g/kg/bw. That is for the general public depending on your goals you may need more or less. It can go up as high as 2g but anything over 1g in my opinion is too much unless you're an athlete general fitness should be .8g/kg/bw. You can also adjust your macro percentages if you'd like. Sometimes trial and error are the best method bud. Everyone is different we all utilize macros at different efficiencies.
  • sunnybeaches105
    sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
    jgubdlach wrote: »
    It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.

    There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.

    As for naturopaths see below.

    http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html

    ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:

    "Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.

    http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7

    More on protein intake (from 2015):

    http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549

    The recommended intake is .8g/kg/bw. That is for the general public depending on your goals you may need more or less. It can go up as high as 2g but anything over 1g in my opinion is too much unless you're an athlete general fitness should be .8g/kg/bw. You can also adjust your macro percentages if you'd like. Sometimes trial and error are the best method bud. Everyone is different we all utilize macros at different efficiencies.

    The "recommended" intake via RDA is a minimum. I posted a study above that shows that the general population will likely benefit from more.
  • jgubdlach
    jgubdlach Posts: 19 Member
    jgubdlach wrote: »
    It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.

    There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.

    As for naturopaths see below.

    http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html

    ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:

    "Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.

    http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7

    More on protein intake (from 2015):

    http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549

    The recommended intake is .8g/kg/bw. That is for the general public depending on your goals you may need more or less. It can go up as high as 2g but anything over 1g in my opinion is too much unless you're an athlete general fitness should be .8g/kg/bw. You can also adjust your macro percentages if you'd like. Sometimes trial and error are the best method bud. Everyone is different we all utilize macros at different efficiencies.

    The "recommended" intake via RDA is a minimum. I posted a study above that shows that the general population will likely benefit from more.

    I'm not getting in a passing match bud. No need to be defensive over one study.im sure as you know there is on going debates back and forth. I agree the general public can benefit from more than the "minimum" requirements as they're the "minimum".
  • sunnybeaches105
    sunnybeaches105 Posts: 2,831 Member
    jgubdlach wrote: »
    jgubdlach wrote: »
    It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.

    There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.

    As for naturopaths see below.

    http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html

    ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:

    "Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.

    http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7

    More on protein intake (from 2015):

    http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549

    The recommended intake is .8g/kg/bw. That is for the general public depending on your goals you may need more or less. It can go up as high as 2g but anything over 1g in my opinion is too much unless you're an athlete general fitness should be .8g/kg/bw. You can also adjust your macro percentages if you'd like. Sometimes trial and error are the best method bud. Everyone is different we all utilize macros at different efficiencies.

    The "recommended" intake via RDA is a minimum. I posted a study above that shows that the general population will likely benefit from more.

    I'm not getting in a passing match bud. No need to be defensive over one study.im sure as you know there is on going debates back and forth. I agree the general public can benefit from more than the "minimum" requirements as they're the "minimum".

    It's not a p match, and there's more than one study. No worries if you don't enjoy discussing the issue but seems silly given where you are posting.
  • Redwineandmuscles
    Redwineandmuscles Posts: 46 Member
    Great articles sunny beaches. I stopped seeing my naturopath when she decided that b12 shots would help with my fatigue, (even though I'm not deficient and we both knew my iron was low). When I said that the shots weren't helping, she suggested more shots. I'm not going back to her, but it was nice to feel like I can relax a bit on the protein from time to time.
  • jgubdlach
    jgubdlach Posts: 19 Member
    jgubdlach wrote: »
    jgubdlach wrote: »
    It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.

    There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.

    As for naturopaths see below.

    http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html

    ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:

    "Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.

    http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7

    More on protein intake (from 2015):

    http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549

    The recommended intake is .8g/kg/bw. That is for the general public depending on your goals you may need more or less. It can go up as high as 2g but anything over 1g in my opinion is too much unless you're an athlete general fitness should be .8g/kg/bw. You can also adjust your macro percentages if you'd like. Sometimes trial and error are the best method bud. Everyone is different we all utilize macros at different efficiencies.

    The "recommended" intake via RDA is a minimum. I posted a study above that shows that the general population will likely benefit from more.

    I'm not getting in a passing match bud. No need to be defensive over one study.im sure as you know there is on going debates back and forth. I agree the general public can benefit from more than the "minimum" requirements as they're the "minimum".

    It's not a p match, and there's more than one study. No worries if you don't enjoy discussing the issue but seems silly given where you are posting.

    No not at all I got the wrong impression purely here to try and help if I can. My appologies my man
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    jgubdlach wrote: »
    It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.

    There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.

    As for naturopaths see below.

    http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html

    ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:

    "Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.

    http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7

    More on protein intake (from 2015):

    http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549

    The recommended intake is .8g/kg/bw. That is for the general public depending on your goals you may need more or less. It can go up as high as 2g but anything over 1g in my opinion is too much unless you're an athlete general fitness should be .8g/kg/bw. You can also adjust your macro percentages if you'd like. Sometimes trial and error are the best method bud. Everyone is different we all utilize macros at different efficiencies.

    The "recommended" intake via RDA is a minimum. I posted a study above that shows that the general population will likely benefit from more.

    In addition to the studies, do a little research and you will find high level athletes will generally be consuming protein at the gram per bodyweight level or above. I'm by no means a top level athlete but I am able to look at what they do and emulate their practices where applicable in my diet and training.
  • jgubdlach
    jgubdlach Posts: 19 Member
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    jgubdlach wrote: »
    It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.

    There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.

    As for naturopaths see below.

    http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html

    ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:

    "Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.

    http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7

    More on protein intake (from 2015):

    http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549

    The recommended intake is .8g/kg/bw. That is for the general public depending on your goals you may need more or less. It can go up as high as 2g but anything over 1g in my opinion is too much unless you're an athlete general fitness should be .8g/kg/bw. You can also adjust your macro percentages if you'd like. Sometimes trial and error are the best method bud. Everyone is different we all utilize macros at different efficiencies.

    The "recommended" intake via RDA is a minimum. I posted a study above that shows that the general population will likely benefit from more.

    In addition to the studies, do a little research and you will find high level athletes will generally be consuming protein at the gram per bodyweight level or above. I'm by no means a top level athlete but I am able to look at what they do and emulate their practices where applicable in my diet and training.

    I was talking speaking specifically general public. You're correct as referring to athletes absolutely no disagreement there. What sport do you play? I currently train my cousin (plays college hockey) in his summer off season workouts. He intakes far over recommended daily value for protein but he's an athlete like you. Prior/during and most importantly recovery and what we are doing in those hours we aren't training to maximize performance is what we focus the most on right now. If you don't mind I was curious of what your intake of macros was? Also fueling pre/during/post workout?
  • jdwils14
    jdwils14 Posts: 154 Member
    edited July 2016
    This site is a tool, not a dietician. Set it to whatever you want, or whatever you know you need. I just shoot for 30-50 g per meal, to meet the synthesis threshold, making sure they are from L-Leucine rich sources.
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    edited July 2016
    jgubdlach wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    jgubdlach wrote: »
    It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.

    There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.

    As for naturopaths see below.

    http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html

    ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:

    "Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.

    http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7

    More on protein intake (from 2015):

    http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549

    The recommended intake is .8g/kg/bw. That is for the general public depending on your goals you may need more or less. It can go up as high as 2g but anything over 1g in my opinion is too much unless you're an athlete general fitness should be .8g/kg/bw. You can also adjust your macro percentages if you'd like. Sometimes trial and error are the best method bud. Everyone is different we all utilize macros at different efficiencies.

    The "recommended" intake via RDA is a minimum. I posted a study above that shows that the general population will likely benefit from more.

    In addition to the studies, do a little research and you will find high level athletes will generally be consuming protein at the gram per bodyweight level or above. I'm by no means a top level athlete but I am able to look at what they do and emulate their practices where applicable in my diet and training.

    I was talking speaking specifically general public. You're correct as referring to athletes absolutely no disagreement there. What sport do you play? I currently train my cousin (plays college hockey) in his summer off season workouts. He intakes far over recommended daily value for protein but he's an athlete like you. Prior/during and most importantly recovery and what we are doing in those hours we aren't training to maximize performance is what we focus the most on right now. If you don't mind I was curious of what your intake of macros was? Also fueling pre/during/post workout?

    I'm not an "athlete" 60 year old guy that had been a 40+ year weight trainer, runner, biker, etc for fitness. Not super good at any of them, but can fit in the same clothes as my 25 year old son who is the same height and basically same weight and has done a bit of local fitness modeling (he does fill them out better though). I had sepsis 3 years ago which caused.me to drop about 20 pounds of muscle. I've gotten most of that back now. Don't think it would have happened on a lower protein diet.

    For a long I've chosen to use my "extra" calories to get to protein as around 30% of my needs.

    Just my $.02.
  • jgubdlach
    jgubdlach Posts: 19 Member
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    jgubdlach wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    jgubdlach wrote: »
    It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.

    There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.

    As for naturopaths see below.

    http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html

    ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:

    "Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.

    http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7

    More on protein intake (from 2015):

    http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549

    The recommended intake is .8g/kg/bw. That is for the general public depending on your goals you may need more or less. It can go up as high as 2g but anything over 1g in my opinion is too much unless you're an athlete general fitness should be .8g/kg/bw. You can also adjust your macro percentages if you'd like. Sometimes trial and error are the best method bud. Everyone is different we all utilize macros at different efficiencies.

    The "recommended" intake via RDA is a minimum. I posted a study above that shows that the general population will likely benefit from more.

    In addition to the studies, do a little research and you will find high level athletes will generally be consuming protein at the gram per bodyweight level or above. I'm by no means a top level athlete but I am able to look at what they do and emulate their practices where applicable in my diet and training.

    I was talking speaking specifically general public. You're correct as referring to athletes absolutely no disagreement there. What sport do you play? I currently train my cousin (plays college hockey) in his summer off season workouts. He intakes far over recommended daily value for protein but he's an athlete like you. Prior/during and most importantly recovery and what we are doing in those hours we aren't training to maximize performance is what we focus the most on right now. If you don't mind I was curious of what your intake of macros was? Also fueling pre/during/post workout?

    I'm not an "athlete" 60 year old guy that had been a 40+ year weight trainer, runner, biker, etc for fitness. Not super good at any of them, but can fit in the same clothes as my 25 year old son who is the same height and basically same weight and has done a bit of local fitness modeling (he does fill them out better though). I had sepsis 3 years ago which caused.me to drop about 20 pounds of muscle. I've gotten most of that back now. Don't think it would have happened on a lower protein diet.

    For a long I've chosen to use my "extra" calories to get to protein as around 30% of my needs.

    Just my $.02.

    Sorry to hear that but happy that you're back! Once an athlete always an athlete I agree with you. Good chat. Wish the best on your continued fitness journey!
  • MichelleLaree13
    MichelleLaree13 Posts: 865 Member
    I would consult with a physician. Excess protein can be hard on your kidneys
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    I would consult with a physician. Excess protein can be hard on your kidneys

    Never hurts to check with a doctor. However, any food can be toxic in inappropriate quantities. Protein in the usda recommended range of 10-35% of calories is not going to be an issue unless there is some unusual underling situation. The upper end 30%+ or so will get close to a gram +/- pound of bodyweight
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    jgubdlach wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    jgubdlach wrote: »
    Packerjohn wrote: »
    jgubdlach wrote: »
    It totally depends on your goals. You'll hear so much conflicting advice on this. Recently, a naturopath told me I was getting more than enough protein (surprised me, but made me relax a bit). I tend to get to know what other people are up to, and if I think they make sense, and seem to be meeting their goals, I follow their advice.

    There is conflicting advice because people either don't read the studies being done on the subject or don't understand the conclusions. There are also the issues of variance among individuals and various goals, but the current recommendations for optimal health and performance are significantly in excess of RDA.

    As for naturopaths see below.

    http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Naturopathy/naturopathy.html

    ETA: These are worth reading if you're interested:

    "Contemporary Issues in Protein Requirements and Consumption for Resistance Trained Athletes" meta by Wilson in 2006.

    http://www.jissn.com/content/3/1/7

    More on protein intake (from 2015):

    http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1139/apnm-2015-0549

    The recommended intake is .8g/kg/bw. That is for the general public depending on your goals you may need more or less. It can go up as high as 2g but anything over 1g in my opinion is too much unless you're an athlete general fitness should be .8g/kg/bw. You can also adjust your macro percentages if you'd like. Sometimes trial and error are the best method bud. Everyone is different we all utilize macros at different efficiencies.

    The "recommended" intake via RDA is a minimum. I posted a study above that shows that the general population will likely benefit from more.

    In addition to the studies, do a little research and you will find high level athletes will generally be consuming protein at the gram per bodyweight level or above. I'm by no means a top level athlete but I am able to look at what they do and emulate their practices where applicable in my diet and training.

    I was talking speaking specifically general public. You're correct as referring to athletes absolutely no disagreement there. What sport do you play? I currently train my cousin (plays college hockey) in his summer off season workouts. He intakes far over recommended daily value for protein but he's an athlete like you. Prior/during and most importantly recovery and what we are doing in those hours we aren't training to maximize performance is what we focus the most on right now. If you don't mind I was curious of what your intake of macros was? Also fueling pre/during/post workout?

    I'm not an "athlete" 60 year old guy that had been a 40+ year weight trainer, runner, biker, etc for fitness. Not super good at any of them, but can fit in the same clothes as my 25 year old son who is the same height and basically same weight and has done a bit of local fitness modeling (he does fill them out better though). I had sepsis 3 years ago which caused.me to drop about 20 pounds of muscle. I've gotten most of that back now. Don't think it would have happened on a lower protein diet.

    For a long I've chosen to use my "extra" calories to get to protein as around 30% of my needs.

    Just my $.02.

    Sorry to hear that but happy that you're back! Once an athlete always an athlete I agree with you. Good chat. Wish the best on your continued fitness journey!

    Thanks. Several of the medical people told me many people that come in with it as bad as I did go out under a sheet. They said being in better than average shape for my age either save my life or prevented life changing consequences like stroke or kidney disease.

    Glad to have had a great medical team and family support.
  • callumwalker1995
    callumwalker1995 Posts: 389 Member
    I eat 1.4g per pound of bodyweight purely because I find more protein more satisfying and also I prefer protein sources like chicken.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    I shoot for 170 or 1gr per lb of lean mass.
  • Redwineandmuscles
    Redwineandmuscles Posts: 46 Member
    I find I have to supplement with protein powders if I go over 100 grams
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