Fat cals

Knightride48
Knightride48 Posts: 380 Member
edited November 13 in Food and Nutrition
I gotta ask, in a day if i consume 20 grams sat fat and before the day is over ,exercise to burn 200 calories , will i burn off all the saturated fat calories?
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  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited July 2016
    Calorie for calorie in terms of weight loss yes ..CICO is just a mathematical formula

    But health connotations are different eg sat fat effect on LDL cholesterol and risk of strokes/ heart issues
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    Do not worry about saturated fat. The government has backed off from the old recommendations.
  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    It depends if the fat calories came from your cake muffin sandwich.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    RodaRose wrote: »
    Do not worry about saturated fat. The government has backed off from the old recommendations.

    @rodarose have they? Which govt? Do you have a link? The american heart organisation and the NHS still seem pretty clear on limiting intake of sat fat
  • Wynterbourne
    Wynterbourne Posts: 2,235 Member
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    It depends if the fat calories came from your cake muffin sandwich.

    ROFLMAO. I thought the exact same thing after I read the post. :innocent:
  • Heirgreat
    Heirgreat Posts: 262 Member
    "have they? Which govt? Do you have a link? The american heart organisation and the NHS still seem pretty clear on limiting intake of sat fat"

    SuedOnim you may have meant "NIH" which is the US government national institute of health (not NHS)

    SuedOnim.you may find this article interesting to get educated on studies on fat and cholesterol: Kuipers RS, et al. Neth J Med. 2011

    Look it up on pubmed- it's a good source for scientific studies & medicine or health related articles...good reference for your education -- AHA ( American Heart Association) has changed its stance on cholesterol and low lipid density based on these studies.. Goodnight
  • RodaRose
    RodaRose Posts: 9,562 Member
    The American Heart Association is not a government agency.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Heirgreat wrote: »
    "have they? Which govt? Do you have a link? The american heart organisation and the NHS still seem pretty clear on limiting intake of sat fat"

    SuedOnim you may have meant "NIH" which is the US government national institute of health (not NHS)

    SuedOnim.you may find this article interesting to get educated on studies on fat and cholesterol: Kuipers RS, et al. Neth J Med. 2011

    Look it up on pubmed- it's a good source for scientific studies & medicine or health related articles...good reference for your education -- AHA ( American Heart Association) has changed its stance on cholesterol and low lipid density based on these studies.. Goodnight

    No I didn't ...I meant the NHS ...the UK national health service ...why would I mean NIH ?...I was commenting globally.

    I am quite adept with scientific studies thank you which is why I asked the question, because I assumed you had the source for the comment.

    I am not disputing that it has been withdrawn, just that on a cursory look, including the American Heart Association's guidance I can find nothing and assumed you have the authority's commentary

    This is the latest from the AHA, updated February this year http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/HealthyLiving/HealthyEating/Nutrition/Saturated-Fats_UCM_301110_Article.jsp#.V49XdpB4WrU

    "The American Heart Association recommends aiming for a dietary pattern that achieves 5% to 6% of calories from saturated fat. That means, for example, if you need about 2,000 calories a day, no more than 120 of them should come from saturated fats. That’s about 13 grams of saturated fats a day."

    This NIH metastudy is from 2015 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26068959..

    .I have only scanned the abstract but may have missed something

    "The findings of this updated review are suggestive of a small but potentially important reduction in cardiovascular risk on reduction of saturated fat intake. Replacing the energy from saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat appears to be a useful strategy, and replacement with carbohydrate appears less useful, but effects of replacement with monounsaturated fat were unclear due to inclusion of only one small trial. This effect did not appear to alter by study duration, sex or baseline level of cardiovascular risk. Lifestyle advice to all those at risk of cardiovascular disease and to lower risk population groups should continue to include permanent reduction of dietary saturated fat and partial replacement by unsaturated fats. The ideal type of unsaturated fat is unclear."
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Let me be clear on this ...I am asking out of personal curiosity and not to catch anyone out. I have an ongoing interest in nutrition and health and cannot find any withdrawal, by government, or nationally recognised health associations that say limiting sat fat is no longer recommended

    So if anyone can link to that I'd be grateful. Thanks
  • Michael190lbs
    Michael190lbs Posts: 1,510 Member
    I eat 100 grams of Fat most days its all about total calories..
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited July 2016
    Sued0nim wrote: »
    Let me be clear on this ...I am asking out of personal curiosity and not to catch anyone out. I have an ongoing interest in nutrition and health and cannot find any withdrawal, by government, or nationally recognised health associations that say limiting sat fat is no longer recommended

    So if anyone can link to that I'd be grateful. Thanks

    The recommendations about sat fat have not been withdrawn. The current US Dietary Guidelines have removed the limit on FAT as a whole, not sat fat, which we are still advised to limit. Some people seem to have mixed up the too and, of course, in some corners (like the LCHF one) the idea that sat fat is 100% great in all amounts and sugar the opposite seems to be a truism, but it's neither supported by the US gov't nor experts (I refer to the Harvard nutrition and Mayo clinic sites, which will say that cutting sat fat and replacing with refined carbs isn't useful, but replacing with healthy fats or fruits and veg and whole grains is).

    So you were right, and the US and UK seem to be in tune. Special relationship forever! ;-)
  • Sloth2016
    Sloth2016 Posts: 838 Member
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    It depends if the fat calories came from your cake muffin sandwich.

    I give you Sir, the highest of fives
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    US Recommendations have not been withdrawn. They were changed in 2010 to say that both saturated and trans fats should combined make up no more than 10% of calorie intake. Later they stated they don't recommend the consumption of any trans fats.

    http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/sites/default/files/dietary_guidelines_for_americans/PolicyDoc.pdf
    http://www.fns.usda.gov/pressrelease/2016/000516


    Anyways, OP. As far as calories, yes. But we know that these fats can cause heart disease, so for your health i would stick to the recommendation. If you consume 2,000 calories per day you shouldn't consume more than 200 calories a day from saturated fats or any more than 22 grams.
  • MelaniaTrump
    MelaniaTrump Posts: 2,694 Member
    edited July 2016
    "Research is mounting that saturated fat is better for you than processed carbohydrates like sugar and white bread"
    Time Magazine
    http://time.com/4386248/fat-butter-nutrition-health/
    Maybe someday they will say sat fat is better than fruits, veggies, and whole grains.
  • geneticsteacher
    geneticsteacher Posts: 623 Member
    I gotta ask, in a day if i consume 20 grams sat fat and before the day is over ,exercise to burn 200 calories , will i burn off all the saturated fat calories?

    Why do you think your body would choose to burn off calories only from fat?
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    I wrote too instead of two above. How can this be! The embarrassment.

    lolol
  • Michael190lbs
    Michael190lbs Posts: 1,510 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    I wrote too instead of two above. How can this be! The embarrassment.

    That made me spit out water mid sip..lol..

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  • Wynterbourne
    Wynterbourne Posts: 2,235 Member
    I gotta ask, in a day if i consume 20 grams sat fat and before the day is over ,exercise to burn 200 calories , will i burn off all the saturated fat calories?

    Why do you think your body would choose to burn off calories only from fat?

    How many calories do i have to burn in order to burn the 200 cals of sat fat? 2000?

    Did you really just ask how many calories to burn to burn off 200 calories? Ummm... 200 calories?
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    It depends if the fat calories came from your cake muffin sandwich.

    It was a muffin pie sandwich with a pinch of cake on the side. Keep up :tongue:
  • XnRGrandpa
    XnRGrandpa Posts: 62 Member
    I gotta ask, in a day if i consume 20 grams sat fat and before the day is over ,exercise to burn 200 calories , will i burn off all the saturated fat calories?

    Why do you think your body would choose to burn off calories only from fat?

    How many calories do i have to burn in order to burn the 200 cals of sat fat? 2000?

    You'd have to burn 200 calories. Remember, a calorie is a calorie, regardless of it's source. The difference here, as others have pointed out, is sat. fat in and of itself, is unhealthy. Even if sat. fat had zero calories, you'd still want to limit it.
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    edited July 2016
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    I wrote too instead of two above. How can this be! The embarrassment.

    If I've learned one thing from the Internet, it's that cats are not very good at spelling, but they are cute :heart:

    And they want your cheeseburger.
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    edited July 2016
    I gotta ask, in a day if i consume 20 grams sat fat and before the day is over ,exercise to burn 200 calories , will i burn off all the saturated fat calories?

    Why do you think your body would choose to burn off calories only from fat?

    How many calories do i have to burn in order to burn the 200 cals of sat fat? 2000?

    You can't exercise X amount to burn off a specific amount of saturated fat.

    Edited to clarify: you can't decide which fuel sources specifically are burned through exercise. For example you can't eat 200 cal of sat fat and 200 calories of carbs and then exercise away the sat fat calories. This is how I'm reading your question. If my interpretation is wrong, ignore me.
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    Sued0nim wrote: »
    I wonder if trolls have different digestive systems, they may be like cows and have 4 distinct stomachs

    Some days I'd like to have 4 distinct stomachs rather than my standard two

    You know the food stomach and the always room for pudding stomach

    I thought trolls had three stomachs, two spleens, one kidney, and a very small brain located in their backside. Although my troll anatomy course is pretty old.
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  • XnRGrandpa
    XnRGrandpa Posts: 62 Member
    edited July 2016
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    I gotta ask, in a day if i consume 20 grams sat fat and before the day is over ,exercise to burn 200 calories , will i burn off all the saturated fat calories?

    Why do you think your body would choose to burn off calories only from fat?

    How many calories do i have to burn in order to burn the 200 cals of sat fat? 2000?

    You can't exercise X amount to burn off a specific amount of saturated fat.

    Edited to clarify: you can't decide which fuel sources specifically are burned through exercise. For example you can't eat 200 cal of sat fat and 200 calories of carbs and then exercise away the sat fat calories. This is how I'm reading your question. If my interpretation is wrong, ignore me.

    So basically their is no way possible to know how much fat you burn off right? I heard something after a certain time amount, your body starts burning/ breaking down fat to use as a source of energy in a workout after oyou use up a certain amount of carbs cals right?

    You're confusing Sat. Fat with Body Fat.

    mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/fat/art-20045550
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    I gotta ask, in a day if i consume 20 grams sat fat and before the day is over ,exercise to burn 200 calories , will i burn off all the saturated fat calories?

    Why do you think your body would choose to burn off calories only from fat?

    How many calories do i have to burn in order to burn the 200 cals of sat fat? 2000?

    You can't exercise X amount to burn off a specific amount of saturated fat.

    Edited to clarify: you can't decide which fuel sources specifically are burned through exercise. For example you can't eat 200 cal of sat fat and 200 calories of carbs and then exercise away the sat fat calories. This is how I'm reading your question. If my interpretation is wrong, ignore me.

    So basically their is no way possible to know how much fat you burn off right? I heard something after a certain time amount, your body starts burning/ breaking down fat to use as a source of energy in a workout after oyou use up a certain amount of carbs cals right?

    No - wrong.
    For the vast majority of time when exercising your body is burning both carbs and fat. The proportion of the two is mainly determined by exercise intensity.

    Stop sweating the small stuff! Concentrate on sustaining a sensible daily/weekly deficit and you will lose body fat.
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