Question about Eating Small Amt of Food that isn't Good For
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OK, I think I've been doing really well - lost 36 lbs so far and I feel fantastic. But tonight, my younger son called (he's transformed himself from Mr.JunkFood to Mr. Fitness Guru of sorts). Well, sometimes I feel like.. be careful of what you wish for (or, in my case, pray for). :laugh:
He called to find out how I'm doing. All my kids are thrilled with my weight loss - the youngest, who got me on MFP, came over a couple of wks ago and was here when I came in fr my walk - she sat there literally w/her mouth open - in shock - at the difference in my appearance. Then when I visited her last wkend, we went walking EVERYWHERE. I mean - for hours.
Never did I think that w/in a few months, I could do that. (I actually thought I was headed for knee surgery - that made me super-serious about this).
So - I mentioned in passing (how foolish of me, grrr) that I'm having no problem with my diet, since I allow myself a teeny taste of anything that might tempt me. I used the wrong example - my (other) son had a small pkg of chips, so I allowed myself 10 or 12. Chips have always been my downfall, but they really don't tempt me anymore.
No, no, no, NO says son #2. He tells me I shouldn't do that - I should take a 'cheat day' and eat whatever I want on that day instead.
But I'm losing weight, feel great & don't want to eat all the stuff I used to eat!
He explained (in length) about how nutrition-less food will ruin my metabolism, & more stuff like that (I kind of faze out when he goes on like this). According to him, by taking a cheat day I'll fool my metabolism somehow (like I said, I fazed out).
Thing is, I'm very happy w/what I'm doing. Or am I wrong?
He called to find out how I'm doing. All my kids are thrilled with my weight loss - the youngest, who got me on MFP, came over a couple of wks ago and was here when I came in fr my walk - she sat there literally w/her mouth open - in shock - at the difference in my appearance. Then when I visited her last wkend, we went walking EVERYWHERE. I mean - for hours.
Never did I think that w/in a few months, I could do that. (I actually thought I was headed for knee surgery - that made me super-serious about this).
So - I mentioned in passing (how foolish of me, grrr) that I'm having no problem with my diet, since I allow myself a teeny taste of anything that might tempt me. I used the wrong example - my (other) son had a small pkg of chips, so I allowed myself 10 or 12. Chips have always been my downfall, but they really don't tempt me anymore.
No, no, no, NO says son #2. He tells me I shouldn't do that - I should take a 'cheat day' and eat whatever I want on that day instead.
But I'm losing weight, feel great & don't want to eat all the stuff I used to eat!
He explained (in length) about how nutrition-less food will ruin my metabolism, & more stuff like that (I kind of faze out when he goes on like this). According to him, by taking a cheat day I'll fool my metabolism somehow (like I said, I fazed out).
Thing is, I'm very happy w/what I'm doing. Or am I wrong?
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I reckon, if it's working for you (and it obviously is), then go with it.
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In my past experience, I have found that my "cheat day" turns into "cheat days" and it pushes me off my path quite a bit faster than a small snack here or there. If I have enough calories left in my daily allotment, I always allow myself something small, say for dessert, but I try and include something healthy with it. (For example this evening I ate a banana but put 1 T of peanut butter and 2 T of melted chocolate on it). I find that if I allow myself a bite or two, I'm not tempted to eat an entire chocolate cake on my "cheat day". Hope this helps 0
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I would say keep doing what you're doing..it seems to be working well for you...36 lbs is awesome! Good luck!!0
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If it works for YOU, then it works, period. I know he's trying to help, but he really should not be so preachy and realize that obviously what you are doing is working. I am similar to you in that, if I want a little treat, I'll have some. I don't say "no way, it's not cheat day." I am very good about moderation, which was not always the case. I used to think that if I ate one thing "bad" that I should just give up that day. Now I realize that a little bit is a whole lot better than a lot(unless it's broccoli)lol.0
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Do what works for you. I simply can not "eat clean" all week long - so I try and just give myself a little of what I want. Plus, if I allow myself a "cheat day" I am very likely to go WAY overboard and negate all the work I did that week. You're better off having those chips and then just trying to work them off (walking or whatever). As long as it works for you!
Congrats on your weight loss!0 -
i do what you've been doing... i deny myself nothing.. i just make anything i want fit into my daily food plan.
and... as you can see... it's working perfectly well for me too *S*
edited to add:
mind you.. chips was a bad example as you said *L*... as they are so loaded with sodium and no nutritional value *L* .. i have what i love.. but.. i make sure it all has value...i hate wasting calories on food that does me no good as fuel *L*0 -
If what you're doing works, go with it. No reason to fix it if it ain't broke.
A lot of fitness advice that is circulated about metabolism has no actual verifiable source. For example, there is actually no research done suggesting that eating more frequently stokes your metabolism. This is another one of those ideas that sounds suspiciously base-less.
And in any case, who wants to worry about something like that? I'd rather deal with any supposed metabolism deficiencies associated with "cheating" a little every day (which I do), if it's going to keep me sane.0 -
Umm... maybe Ive missed something in the last 63 lbs but I eat a small amount of what Im craving to prevent me from binging..... Everyone works differenty, if that workd for him great, but there are plenty of people out there who can consue 6000 cals in a "cheat day" and negate most of the work they did ALL week. And it isnt massive amounts of food, its pasta with a creamy sauce, mixed drinks, beer, ice cream (oh yes whole thing of Ben & Jerry's chocolate chip cookie dough? Well over 1000 cals, used to buy 2 and finish 1.5 in a day)0
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as long as your showing results do what you feel you need to do for you and your body. I do the same as alexnadra_anne if not i will keep going for cheat day to days. I do have a couple high calorie days a week to through my metabolism off and it works for me.0
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One thing about having a cheat day is to look forward to that day. I eat a lot healthier on my cheat days than I did when I was fat. I though nothing about putting down a double-meat burger with large fries and a coke... Trust me, my cheat days are 1000 times healthier when you compare how I used to eat...0
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Do what you feel is right. I do the same thing, if I feel like m&ms I take 3-4 and savor them instead of eating a gigantic hand full then moving on to a doughnut. That way I don't feel like I am depriving my self if my "needed" chocolate fix.
To never eat your favorite things is not a way to live, just incorporate them in a way that they are not taking over.0 -
IMO, i don't allow myself a "cheat day" because then that turns into the next day being a cheat day, and then it's cheat weeks. If it works for him, that's fantastic! But if doing what you're doing is working, don't change. Only you know what's truly working for your body.
That being said, I very rarely deny myself something within reason. I'm here to make a LIFE change. I can't go the rest of my life without eating ice cream, chocolate, dessert, etc so why deny myself that now? I'm trying to find a way to limit my intake of junk food, but still be able to if I have enough calories left over at the end of the day. That may mean going on an extra walk, or doing ten more minutes of cardio or weight training, but it works.
Good luck!!0 -
i say do what works for you. what your son is saying may sound logical for some but it seems to me that we gained weight by having many cheat days. i cannot agree with having a cheat day because you will find yourself thinking about what your're going to eat on "cheat day" which in fact work against you. so i do whatever it is your doing, if u wanna have 10chips have them, but dont eat the whole bag. making healthier choices and smaller portions is really key. we gained the waited for over indulgence and dont let a day ruin your routine.0
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I am the same way you are. I eat healthy 90% of the time, but allow myself the occasional treat as long as it's in my calorie range. It works for me too. I don't think I would be able to not do that. For me it would mean never eating with my family and friends... I'm just not willing to do that. Cheat days... I don't believe in those, except for the occasional holidays or special occasions. "Cheat days" seem like a diet thing to me. I don't look at this as a diet. I see it as a lifestyle. Keep doing whatever works for you. You're doing great!0
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I don't do "cheat" days. I do Chocolate Fridays every Friday. I don't ever consider it a cheat because (1) I plan for it and work it in my calories. (2) I'm not cheating, I'm allowing myself something I enjoy and it actually stops me from binging the rest of the week and like one person replied, I don't eat unhealthy on my Chocolate day....I eat healthy so I can eat and enjoy my chocolate. It's not realistic for anyone to think they aren't going to eat something they want for the rest of their lives. I definitely would try to plan for it though or get a healthier version to eat. Example: I love Lay's Regular Potato Chips and Frito Lay's Corn Chips but I don't eat them anymore, instead I switched to no-salt wheat pretzels. No sodium, fat or guilt. Will I go the rest of my life without eating potato or corn chips? Probably not, but I will not eat them on a regular basis....only if I'm at a party or gathering and I don't have healthier choices. I prefer to save my splurges for something I really want and that will satisfy me with just a serving vs. 1/2 a bag. To me this is a lifestyle change and I prefer not to keep unhealthy options in the house to tempt me.....but that's just me. :flowerforyou:0
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"The proof of the pudding is in the eating", said someone (don't know who). If it works for you, then use it to your advantage.
Kids... remember, they don't know everything.0 -
I have the answer. I do. Really. Because like your youngest, I am a youngest. I also have a mother. And she is getting fit too. This means...when I read something I decide it is Gospel truth (my dad's a pastor, so I fully appreciate what this means) and I tell my mom. Its what we as youngests do. Our older siblings won't take us seriously but we know how to "trick" mom into it. Most of the time we're full of bull, we're just really good at sounding like it is hard and fast truth. I don't think my mom believes me anymore, mostly because I've decided to take advantage of her years of being alive when I wasn't and ask her about every random thing. It works out better for us, but sons may be different.0
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Thanks to EVERYONE responding!!!
I'm on the east coast, and should be sleeping - I came home exhausted and tired, and wanted to hit the sack. But honestly, I'm so excited about all I can do now (in contrast to just a couple of months ago), that my mind is spinning!!
Well - I wanted to make sure that this wasn't going to make me hit a plateau - of course, that might happen, but I'll deal with it.
Yes - this is a life change for me, and having a cheat day - well, I'm less worried about binging as I am about - well, it just doesn't interest me!! Imagine - I lived for baked good, junk food, pizza (my daughter & I ate at Pepe's in New Haven when I visited her - we walked forever & walked it all off, & more - and we both agreed that pizza just isn't the big temptation it used to be).
All the food that I'm buying is healthy now. Once in a blue moon my son buys something for himself - that's the only time I've allowed myself a small portion of that stuff. But I log it all in, and make sure the rest of my day is healthy stuff. I think that's why it doesn't really tempt me - I'm filling myself up w/nutrition.
@kimi133 - yes, cheat days seem like diet stuff to me, too! I'd rather allow myself a meal (esp. if I'm going out - so far, the only food I think is worth eating out is Vietnamese food & similar - so healthy & tasty).
@BabyDuchess - I love your idea of Chocolate Fridays!! Yes - if I figure in the calories, fat, etc, and don't overdue it... by listening to my body. It's amazing - I'm really learning to stop eating when I'm not hungry anymore. Wow. Took so many years, but I'm here!
@pcteck2 - hahaha - so true. But I was the same - I remember when I was a teen - got into learning about nutrition (relearning what I knew back then!) - and after reading Adele Davis I threw out all the jello pkgs my mom had - before she got home fr work. OMG - was she ever mad. Hmmm - couldn't understand why... hahahaha
@ilookthetype - loved what you wrote! Well, he's my 'younger' son, not THE youngest of the clan. The youngest will def tell him where he goes wrong, if & when she thinks he does, though. :laugh: (she's on here, too - she's the one who got me to join).
@NewLeafEats - glad you posted that. He means well, but I'll ask about the actual studies to prove what he's saying, *if* he persists.
And everyone else - thanks so, so much. Yeah, I know it's working for me, but it really helps to find out I'm not the only one who is eating this way - and it's working for all of us!! (Isn't it GREAT?!)
It's working - no sense trying to fix something that ain't broke!
He did say (which is too terrific) that they (my kids) want to join together to help me & get me a gym membership - so - I'll be starting that soon, too.
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Looks to me like you are doing a great job and your son is talking out of his ***
You will already have observed that everybody is an expert when it comes to weight loss. Everyone has their own theory on what is "right", and some people get very evangelical about it and won't acknowledge that there are lots of different ways to reach your goal.
Just enjoy the praise, smile and nod when people tell you how you "should" be doing it, and keep doing what you know works!0 -
If its working then carry on...my way of seeing it is that by allowing yourself a taste or 2 you don't feel deprived and are less likely to have slip ups. Its the way I do it, if I want it and can afford it calorie wise I have it. Also my "cheat" days are not pig outs I stay in calories but don't give a flying fig what the nutrient ratio is...someone commented thats not a cheat day...maybe not but it works for me and i've been going since September without any "falls off the wagon"
As for plateaus - they can happen regardless of what you are doing. I recently had a huge one, 3 months and only 3lbs lost but my inches were changing greatly. I reckon my body just needed to catch up!0 -
:happy: If it works for you then go for it. Everyone is different, dont give yourself a hard time, life is to short. Enjoy little but often and if you have a treat enjoy it. Otherwise there is no point in having it.0
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it! What you are doing works for you so keep at it :-)
Congrats on the 36lbs and extra energy and being able to do more!0 -
You are SO right! Don't listen to him.
Not only is what you are doing WORKING (which is evidence enough!), but a cheat day can really hurt you. It does have the potential to help by messing with your metabolism a bit, but it doesn't need to be a crazy day where you eat like a maniac.
There are studies that have been done that say that depriving and denying yourself are sure ways to failure. I wish I could find a link for it now. But it basically said that you try to fill the void of that craving with a bunch of other things that don't satisfy you, and more often than not, you eat that thing in the end anyway. It would have been much better for your diet to just eat what you wanted, in a controlled portion, in the first place, instead of eating all the other things first.
Everything in moderation. This is a lifestyle change, not a temporary diet, and there will always be less than healthy foods that you are going to want in life. The key is learning how to control the amount of them that you eat. And it honestly sounds like you have done that.
Keep doing what you are doing, and don't worry about it. You weren't asking him for help or advice, and you know that being able to do what you do (having small tastes) helps you to stay on track. Keep up the good work! :flowerforyou:0 -
Nothing works for 100% of the people 100% of the time. Each of us tries to find what works to bring results for us, and more importantly, what we can honestly stick with. Consistency has always been my downfall on my weight roller coaster. So now, it's easy does it, one day at a time. No gung-ho, then burn out, fizzle out, and make excuses again until the next wave of motivation hits me. I don't always exercise. I do eat junk food. I don't always get in all the veggies I should everyday. But thats why I'm here to start with. Apples were never my problem, ya know? I am who I am and it takes time to create new habits. You know this from your tremendous results. Nobody is perfect and we don't need to be. We just need to do the best we can day by day... Some days we're stronger than others. But log it in, forget about it, go to sleep, and the morning brings a clean slate. I really try to stick to 1200 calories everyday, and I've gotten the hang of it now and it's not hard anymore. But it took time, as I'm sure it did with you. Some of my 1200 everyday will be rice crispy treats, a butterfinger, fries, chips or ice cream. But I bank those calories knowing I'll need them for my treat at some point in the day. And that's what keeps me coming back. Free days always killed me. It got me out of my logging-in habit cuz I didn't want to admit everything I ate, it made me feel like the old me, and it came with a heaping side of guilt and indigestion. I love the concept if them, and wish they worked for me... But I recognize that I need consistent routine to bring consistent results. Keep doing whats been working for you. Half the battle is finding just that! Congrats on your transformation! 0
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yeah, my boyfriend and I kept bingeing for a while every single night, so we allowed ourselves a cheat day once a month, and the first month came along... oh boy. We were good for the whole month, and then the cheat day came, and it turned into another cheat month! I do not think that cheat days are necessary, because once you start eating sweets, your body craves more. But I do think that it is important to eat a little bit of the things you really want! So i totally agree!0
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I've read a bit about this and there is some scientific reasoning behind your son's approach. However, you have to be practical too. If you would find it difficult to eat perfectly clean for six days, then having a small treat here and there throughout your week is probably the best approach for YOU. If you hit a plateau that just won't break, maybe you should try his example. But, in the meantime, if it ain't broke, why fix it? Congratulations on changing your life (and your son's too....what a great example you've set and a true gift you've given HIM too.)0
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I don't really have cheat days either, I just allow myself to have a treat and try to keep it within my calorie count (didn't quite work on Sunday though I had a bit of a binge lol but only put on 1lb, obviously not as good as losing 1lb but still better than putting on 2lb or 5lb).
Yesterday I had chicken selects from mcdonald's and a skinny cow ice cream, but because I did exercise I was under my calorie goal. Though I probably diminished my exercise by eating what I did lol :-P but when I started I wasn't allowing myself ANY of my favourite things and then I found my cravings got too much and I'd end up going on a binge at the weekend and then almost giving up, so I'd say it is definitely better to allow yourself a small treat within your calorie goal than to binge on a "cheat day".0 -
If you are able to eat a small amount and stop, then go for it! I always say the first bite tastes the best.
For some people (me) certain foods trigger binge eating. I don't necessarily agree that you can't deny yourself things you want for your entire life. Sometimes I think it is the only way to take it off and keep it off. I have done this so many times and so many times I have relaxed and had a little bit of something or another that has led to a lot of something else and so on. This time I am saying that there are definitely foods I cannot eat any more if I want to be successful and keep it off. I'm like a junkie or an alcoholic. I can't have just a few chips, or just one piece of chocolate. I accept that and I'm moving on. I'm not deprived, I am enlightened, aware and accepting. It's like when I quit smoking. I knew I couldn't have an occasional cigarette. I also know I can't have just a bite of certain things.
I guess my point is that it is different for everyone and you have to find what works for you... obviously you have! That's great! Keep going!0 -
In my past experience, I have found that my "cheat day" turns into "cheat days" and it pushes me off my path quite a bit faster than a small snack here or there. If I have enough calories left in my daily allotment, I always allow myself something small, say for dessert, but I try and include something healthy with it. (For example this evening I ate a banana but put 1 T of peanut butter and 2 T of melted chocolate on it). I find that if I allow myself a bite or two, I'm not tempted to eat an entire chocolate cake on my "cheat day". Hope this helps
I agree with this, it is easier for me to have tastes of things, a day can turn into days too easily for me. I try an plan around the days I know will be tough (e.g. family get togethers) but I do not deny myself treats in small amounts. Everyone is different and we should do what works for us.0 -
Do what works for you! Sneak a little something every now and again as a reward for your continued weight loss. Sounds like you are on a great track right now with losing. I am also not a big fan of cheat days, in fact, they are my arch-nemesis because one cheat day has a way of leading to more cheat days. The cheat day might feel good in the moment but the next day I feel terrible and guilty. I'd rather stick to the plan and follow the lifestyle change daily than to be ultra good 6 days, bad 1 day, ultra good 6 days, bad 1 day and so on. Its easier to just be good everyday while also enjoying life and treating yourself to a small portion of something every now and again. Besides if I am under calories by a significant amount then why not a treat for my hard work?0
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