Ketogenic Diet
MissHamps14
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Hi there I was wondering if anyone has tried the ketogenic diet? If so what did you think. I started it yesterday but unsure if I'm having the right amount of protein x
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I have my goals set at 20% protein, 5% carbs and 75% fat. 100+ lbs. lost in 15 months.10
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Wow that's amazing well done. I have set mine to 40% protein 50 % fat & 10% carbs.
Literally not touched a carb unless it's been in vegetables like carrots tomatoes etc.... Just wondering how people have got on. I'm not hungry at all which I thought I would be as I love my stodgy foods x1 -
Have you tried a keto calculator? This one will let you play with it a bit. I've made myself sick from too much protein and not enough fat.
http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com/1 -
I have been Keto for 11 months. Started at 165, now I'm 133 and I love it! I even had to reduce my ADHD medication because my newfound mental clarity combined with my medication had me bugging out! Lol
I don't plan to ever go back to eating carbs.4 -
Keto newb-ish here! I'm about 3 months in and have dropped a few pounds and a lot of inches. I hang out around 70/20/10. I do net carbs, so my 10% comes out to net about 5%. Anything above 70%F makes me happy!2
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I started keto on the 11th april and as of the 18th I have lost 11lbs, down from 177, I have 10% carbs, 30% protein and 60% fat, thoroughly enjoying it!3
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Ketogenic diets may be slightly more effective than balanced diets in helping morbidly obese people to lose weight (only a few %, and its debated by other studies). The main reason to do it is if you find it easier to stick to long term than a balanced diet. Some people do, some people dont. The same deficit with a balanced diet will result in the same amount of weight loss.
Watch out for carbs in veggies like carrots and tomatoes. They still count! Ideally you want to keep carbs below ~25-30g and of those, they should be from trace sources such as fibrous green veggies. Also make sure to keep fats high. Some people have a tendency to go primarily protein and your body really needs the fats to function on keto. Start at around 65-75%. Look into doing regular refeeds if you are exercising with much intensity, also.
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Transitioning from lchf to keto - hoping to break thru watch the scale & body change1
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dietpillsanddietcoke wrote: »Transitioning from lchf to keto - hoping to break thru watch the scale & body change
whats the difference between the two, please explain?
keto is usually under 50g of carbs a day and low carb can be anything over 50-100. someone will correct me if Im wrong3 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »dietpillsanddietcoke wrote: »Transitioning from lchf to keto - hoping to break thru watch the scale & body change
whats the difference between the two, please explain?
keto is usually under 50g of carbs a day and low carb can be anything over 50-100. someone will correct me if Im wrong
Yep, and then there's optimal Ketosis.. lol which is usually about 5% carbs (20g)1 -
so in keto I'll have less than 50gms of carbs...and what are the best ratios for fats anf proteins?CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »dietpillsanddietcoke wrote: »Transitioning from lchf to keto - hoping to break thru watch the scale & body change
whats the difference between the two, please explain?
keto is usually under 50g of carbs a day and low carb can be anything over 50-100. someone will correct me if Im wrong
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more fat than protein.. not sure what a ratio would be for as much as 50g of carbs though - i'm sure someone else could answer that, but for a strict Keto diet it's 5% carbs 75% fat 25% protein.. so you will probably be somewhere similar... maybe 20% carbs 50% fat and 30% protein - something like that.0
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ralostaz2000 wrote: »
so in keto I'll have less than 50gms of carbs...and what are the best ratios for fats anf proteins?CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »dietpillsanddietcoke wrote: »Transitioning from lchf to keto - hoping to break thru watch the scale & body change
whats the difference between the two, please explain?
keto is usually under 50g of carbs a day and low carb can be anything over 50-100. someone will correct me if Im wrong
Try one of these calculators to help develop a macro plan to get you going.
http://keto-calculator.ankerl.com/
Or
http://www.ruled.me/keto-calculator/
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I've been on Keto for just over a month. I started through a health clinic and so far am down 13lbs in 4 weeks. If you starting out make sure you also getting the right vitamins/minerals/electrolytes as well and drinking at least the 64oz of water a day if not more. This is a good site with basic info.
http://www.ketogenic-diet-resource.com/natural-supplements.html1 -
Hello fellow ketoer.
congrats! 0 -
I'm new to the ketogenic diet. Any tips to get me into ketosis wold be very helpful.
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Panda_Poptarts wrote: »Keto newb-ish here! I'm about 3 months in and have dropped a few pounds and a lot of inches. I hang out around 70/20/10. I do net carbs, so my 10% comes out to net about 5%. Anything above 70%F makes me happy!
Ditto
OP. 40% protein is waaaaay too high. Excess protein will be converted to glucose.
LCHF/Keto Group http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group1 -
Panda_Poptarts wrote: »Keto newb-ish here! I'm about 3 months in and have dropped a few pounds and a lot of inches. I hang out around 70/20/10. I do net carbs, so my 10% comes out to net about 5%. Anything above 70%F makes me happy!
Ditto
OP. 40% protein is waaaaay too high. Excess protein will be converted to glucose.
LCHF/Keto Group http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group
As a general rule, this is true. However, if one is running a vigorous lifting plan (I used to lift six days per week, twice per day on two of those days, while I was tearing through my noob gains phase), their protein needs can be notably higher than your average keto dieter.0 -
I do keto an absolutely LOVE it. I've been in and out of keto for 3 years, lost 75 pounds in 6 months on it, in 2013.
I feel completely different in vs. out of keto. In keto I sleep better, feel leaner and more energetic, actually feel happier, more organized as if my brain isn't scattered. My blood work and vitals are enviable on keto...HDL cholesterol over 90, BP = 90/50 and I'm 44 with a family history of high BP and cholesterol issues.
Off keto, even eating good, complex carbs, I feel sluggish, down, bloated and my sleep is poor.
The difference is astounding, to me. I eat about 120gm protein/day.
If you're only one day into it, be patient. It takes at least 3 days to actually get into ketosis and for me, a week to feel like superwoman. Until then, I get a lot of headaches, brain fog, etc. DRINK LOTS OF WATER. It'll help with the headaches.2 -
I feel completely different in vs. out of keto. In keto I sleep better, feel leaner and more energetic, actually feel happier, more organized as if my brain isn't scattered. My blood work and vitals are enviable on keto...
Off keto, even eating good, complex carbs, I feel sluggish, down, bloated and my sleep is poor.
The difference is astounding, to me.
Ditto walkdmc. I've been on keto for a few weeks. The difference is astounding. I had to take melatonin 6 mg at night plus a prescribed sleep aid to get even poor sleep. After a month on keto, I am getting tired enough to fall asleep at about the same time each evening and I don't keep waking up (only once or twice).
DH is also eating keto and has lost about 40 pounds in the same amount of time (grrrr). I lose weight slowly and he has always lost weight quickly. So jealous!! But my fasting blood sugar dropped to nearly normal levels (have been on a lot of steroids the last 2 years which seems to have triggered borderline diabetes). And my lipids are fantastic!
I eat 5/25/70. Mornings I have "keto" coffee with coconut oil which I put in the blender for a nice froth and have recently added 2 oz of protein with it. Finding what works best for you is so important. Like you, I feel so different on keto than I do on a high carb, low fat diet.
This diet plan was affirmed recently when I went to an appointment with a friend and her husband (he has Alzheimer's). The neurologist put him on a ketogenic diet along with 3-4 TBL coconut oil per day to help his brain function better.
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Wow that's amazing well done. I have set mine to 40% protein 50 % fat & 10% carbs.
Literally not touched a carb unless it's been in vegetables like carrots tomatoes etc.... Just wondering how people have got on. I'm not hungry at all which I thought I would be as I love my stodgy foods x
You're not going to go into ketosis with that much protein unless you're doing a lot of exercise and whatnot as the excess protein will just be converted to glucose. Keto dieters typically eat high fat.1 -
I've been on the Keto diet for a little over 2 months. My scale doesn't seem to be showing much weight loss (5-6 pounds) BUT I have lost 4 inches off my waist as well as an inch or two in other areas. I have gone down a size in clothes so I know it is working.1
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I just started the Keto diet last week on advise from my doctor. I wasn't sure if I could do it or not but then I started to get creative. So far I have lost about 7 pounds. I know a lot if that is water but i really want to get this weight off. At first I was just eating less carbs and more protein. I finally figured out I needed more fat. I'm going to need all the support I can get. My family and friends think I'm crazy for doing this diet. No one understands how you can lose weight and eat the fat that have been eating.0
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This is a medically-prescribed diet used to treat some people (mostly children) with epilepsy.
So if you're on it, you should do what your doctor & dietician have told you to do, and if you have questions, ask the medical professionals involved in your care instead of random strangers on the internet.
This is not something to do as a fad.
https://www.epilepsy.com/article/2007/11/side-effects-ketogenic-diet-identification-and-treatment
"The most common, almost “expected”, side effects of the diet are constipation, acidosis (especially with illness), and decreased weight gain (not often weight loss)...
less common side effects, generally occurring in [5%] include high cholesterol, kidney stones, growth slowing, and gastrointestinal upset... Very recent information also suggests that bone density can be a problem while on the diet..."
(there are also reports of rare but very serious problems with heart & brain changes)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1198735/
"Gastrointestinal disturbances, such as nausea/vomiting, diarrhea, and constipation, also were frequently noted, sometimes associated with gastritis and fat intolerance. Other early-onset complications ... hypertriglyceridemia, transient hyperuricemia, hypercholesterolemia, various infectious diseases, symptomatic hypoglycemia, hypoproteinemia, hypomagnesemia, repetitive hyponatremia, low concentrations of high-density lipoprotein ... hepatitis, acute pancreatitis, and persistent metabolic acidosis. Late-onset complications also included osteopenia, renal stones, cardiomyopathy, secondary hypocarnitinemia, and iron-deficiency anemia."
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I had to eat a ton of psyllium husk powder and take magnesium tablets when i was low carbing, without them i would have completely blocked up.0
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This is a medically-prescribed diet used to treat some people (mostly children) with epilepsy.
So if you're on it, you should do what your doctor & dietician have told you to do, and if you have questions, ask the medical professionals involved in your care instead of random strangers on the internet.
This is not something to do as a fad.
https://www.epilepsy.com/article/2007/11/side-effects-ketogenic-diet-identification-and-treatment
"The most common, almost “expected”, side effects of the diet are constipation, acidosis (especially with illness), and decreased weight gain (not often weight loss)...
less common side effects, generally occurring in [5%] include high cholesterol, kidney stones, growth slowing, and gastrointestinal upset... Very recent information also suggests that bone density can be a problem while on the diet..."
(there are also reports of rare but very serious problems with heart & brain changes)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1198735/
"Gastrointestinal disturbances, such as nausea/vomiting, diarrhea, and constipation, also were frequently noted, sometimes associated with gastritis and fat intolerance. Other early-onset complications ... hypertriglyceridemia, transient hyperuricemia, hypercholesterolemia, various infectious diseases, symptomatic hypoglycemia, hypoproteinemia, hypomagnesemia, repetitive hyponatremia, low concentrations of high-density lipoprotein ... hepatitis, acute pancreatitis, and persistent metabolic acidosis. Late-onset complications also included osteopenia, renal stones, cardiomyopathy, secondary hypocarnitinemia, and iron-deficiency anemia."
The nutritional needs of someone on a medically necessary Keto diet vs. non-medically needed keto diet is very different so that isn't really indication that keto is dangerous. Also, lowered my high cholesterol in all areas in 4 months of low carb... sooo... I am not one of the 5%.0 -
This is a medically-prescribed diet used to treat some people (mostly children) with epilepsy.
So if you're on it, you should do what your doctor & dietician have told you to do, and if you have questions, ask the medical professionals involved in your care instead of random strangers on the internet.
This is not something to do as a fad.
https://www.epilepsy.com/article/2007/11/side-effects-ketogenic-diet-identification-and-treatment
"The most common, almost “expected”, side effects of the diet are constipation, acidosis (especially with illness), and decreased weight gain (not often weight loss)...
less common side effects, generally occurring in [5%] include high cholesterol, kidney stones, growth slowing, and gastrointestinal upset... Very recent information also suggests that bone density can be a problem while on the diet..."
(there are also reports of rare but very serious problems with heart & brain changes)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1198735/
"Gastrointestinal disturbances, such as nausea/vomiting, diarrhea, and constipation, also were frequently noted, sometimes associated with gastritis and fat intolerance. Other early-onset complications ... hypertriglyceridemia, transient hyperuricemia, hypercholesterolemia, various infectious diseases, symptomatic hypoglycemia, hypoproteinemia, hypomagnesemia, repetitive hyponatremia, low concentrations of high-density lipoprotein ... hepatitis, acute pancreatitis, and persistent metabolic acidosis. Late-onset complications also included osteopenia, renal stones, cardiomyopathy, secondary hypocarnitinemia, and iron-deficiency anemia."
As the PP said, a medically prescribed keto diet is vastly different than a nutritional ketogenic diet. The medical one is always as low calorie as is able, with low protein and very minimal carbs. Nutritional ketosis is usually under 50g of carbs per day with moderate protein and can be eaten to caloric excess (like when bulking).
Everything you've listed there has been shown to be wrong for nutritional ketosis.
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