My Job Involves a lot of Drinking and no Sleep
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hey,
I recently just started my summer job which i am doing for a month, so basically i am an entertainer in a hostel so i have to go out and be friendly withthe guests so i have to conduct pub crawls, drinking games, and parties almost everynight.... In the day i am too tired to do anything let alone excersize ...But the thing is i dont want to gain a lot of weight... Gaining weight is inevitable with this job but i dont want to gain a lot...i lost a 20lb over the year and i dont want to start again.... Any advice?
I recently just started my summer job which i am doing for a month, so basically i am an entertainer in a hostel so i have to go out and be friendly withthe guests so i have to conduct pub crawls, drinking games, and parties almost everynight.... In the day i am too tired to do anything let alone excersize ...But the thing is i dont want to gain a lot of weight... Gaining weight is inevitable with this job but i dont want to gain a lot...i lost a 20lb over the year and i dont want to start again.... Any advice?
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Is there any way you could substitute the alcohol that you would be drinking with water, club soda or diet soda? You maybe perhaps pass it off as alcohol so your customers aren't any wiser. As for the exercise; if you honestly don't have time to do it I would suggest you just eat a lower amount during that time so you can maintain your current weight (or even continue weight loss if that was your original plan).12
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Weight gain in this job is inevitable. BS, you've given up already. I'm pretty sure your employer doesn't require you to get black out drunk every night.
Back off on the drinking a bit, saving the calories and enabling you to not be a slug all day until time to go drinking again.43 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Weight gain in this job is inevitable. BS, you've given up already. I'm pretty sure your employer doesn't require you to get black out drunk every night.
Back off on the drinking a bit, saving the calories and enabling you to not be a slug all day until time to go drinking again.
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Also, do you have a duty of care for the people you are accompanying? If so, I'd say you were in a difficult position if you were drunk and one of them was injured or harmed.
Anyhow, that is a side point I guess. I'd be switching some/all of the alcoholic drinks for non-alcoholic and if questioned I'd say that I was doing that so that I could keep a clear head when looking after clients.12 -
hey,
I recently just started my summer job which i am doing for a month, so basically i am an entertainer in a hostel so i have to go out and be friendly withthe guests so i have to conduct pub crawls, drinking games, and parties almost everynight.... In the day i am too tired to do anything let alone excersize ...But the thing is i dont want to gain a lot of weight... Gaining weight is inevitable with this job but i dont want to gain a lot...i lost a 20lb over the year and i dont want to start again.... Any advice?
Soda and lime looks like gin & tonic... really there's *no* reason to gain weight in this job - put some calories aside for a drink or two if you really feel it's a requirement - and surely pub crawls and organised games can involve a good amount of moving around?3 -
What I want to know is why would you be drinking while you're working?17
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I agree with packerjohn , you really don't have to drink every night on a job plus you can just order soda, water anything but liquor, you can tell your people sorry I don't drink , my husband has to take customers sometimes to lunch it dinners and they drink but Hubby passes up on it and orders a salad4
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Agree with the other posters.. Alcohol is loaded with calories. Substitute something else so you don't drink much. You can have some alcohol, but fit it in your calorie counts.1
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There's this thing called water or even sparkling water you can drink instead of alcohol.14
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Unless you are really putting in more than 8 hours a day/night, there is no reason for you to be too tired to exercise. Your work day pattern is just skewed much like that of any other night shift worker. Just because you are entertaining those who are drinking is no reason for you to drink on the job. Club soda, seltzer, diet ginger ale, water with a lemon or lime are all good alternatives.
Put in you eight hours of work, get your eight hours of sleep and you still have eight hours personal waking time to exercise, shop, meet friends et al.5 -
I work in an industry that involves a LOT of cocktail parties, my hack is club soda + lime juice. Everyone will assume you're drinking vodka or gin.8
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Are you forced to drink alcohol???5
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There are lots of people who work late/over night shifts and still get in to get their exercise done and not drink themselves out on the job.
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I'm frequently in situations that require me to drink...however, as a recovering alcoholic that is not a good idea for me lol. There are so many ways to make nonalcoholic beverages look like alcoholic beverages that your situation almost sounds like an excuse. Get juice or a soda in a hi ball glass and sword it. Make arrangements with the bar tenders when you first get there so they know what you want - bar tenders are very accommodating and good at keeping secrets. Other drinkers are not going to question your beverage nor are they going to smell it to identify the octane level. I bet if you drink nonalcoholic beverages while on the job you won't be too exhausted to exercise the next day
Sounds like a fun job though! 5 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Weight gain in this job is inevitable. BS, you've given up already. I'm pretty sure your employer doesn't require you to get black out drunk every night.
Back off on the drinking a bit, saving the calories and enabling you to not be a slug all day until time to go drinking again.
Pretty much this. I'd think with a job like that, you really shouldn't be drinking along with the guests, or at least very little. If you are working at night, off in the day, just adjust your schedule so as to sleep enough and then use the time off to exercise some. Not the same schedule as others, but no reason it can't fit in.2 -
WAIT A MINUTE! Where are you located?
Your profile says you are 19 years old. The legal drinking age is 21in the USA. I realize there are people on the forum that are not in the USA, but most are.4 -
Whoah, stop jumping all over this person!
This is a very common summer job in Europe, particularly for British teenagers (who are allowed to drink from 18). They are expected to maximise alcohol revenue in the venues they take their groups to, by organising drinking competitions, forfeit games, etc. There is an expectation that they will drink, as their clients will also be drinking to excess. And yes, it is fairly common for people doing this job to be expected to drink to unconsciousness.
These are not the most scrupulous of employers, and a dry host will be perceived as "boring" and is unlikely to last long - it's not unusual for them to be driven out of jobs.
For example
To anwer your question though, try and cut down on alcohol as much as you can. If you're discreet, you can sub water for vodka in shots. If you really have to drink, try and keep to clear spirits (vodka, gin, etc) as these are lowest in calories. Steer clear of sugary drinks and lager. Try and sneak in some singles and (diet) mixer as well, rather than always going for the double.17 -
There's plenty of clinical evidence that people "act" drunk when they're simply around other drunk people/believe they've been drinking. So there's really no reason you couldn't be good at being the life of the party while still staying sober (or reasonably sober). The only person who has to know that not all of your drinks are alcoholic is the bartender, and good tips and good custom from the rest of your party should be more than enough for them to keep their mouth shut.3
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Keep a business card or small note with you, typed with " I'm responsible for this group I brought in here and we are on a crawl. So I've got to drink very light. Fix me a club soda with lemon and lime and some cherry juice in a highball." Hand that casually to the bartender and say "I'll have my usual!" Pretty soon you won't need the card. Boom...nonalcoholic drink, no big deal made of it. Your liver will thank you.
If you want a drink at some point, don't say "my usual."
EDIT: you're bringing them business, so they'll do whatever you ask13 -
tiny_clanger wrote: »Whoah, stop jumping all over this person!
This is a very common summer job in Europe, particularly for British teenagers (who are allowed to drink from 18). They are expected to maximise alcohol revenue in the venues they take their groups to, by organising drinking competitions, forfeit games, etc. There is an expectation that they will drink, as their clients will also be drinking to excess. And yes, it is fairly common for people doing this job to be expected to drink to unconsciousness.
These are not the most scrupulous of employers, and a dry host will be perceived as "boring" and is unlikely to last long - it's not unusual for them to be driven out of jobs.
This sounds bogus -- drunk people aren't going to be good hosts, and are often quite boring and irresponsible. If you want someone organizing fun and encouraging others to drink (setting aside my issues with the last, which I don't think is ethical at all), better that person be sober and certainly not blackout drunk, ugh.
Your link didn't work for me, but I found this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/09/magalufs-new-drinking-laws-flouted-britons-punta-ballena-curfew-fines-police. What it talks about is pretty disgusting (not that there aren't disgusting pub crawls in the US sometimes), but it says nothing about it being an ideal for the host to be drunk.
And yeah, it's pretty easy to make a bunch of drunk people think you are drinking with them when you are not.2 -
Keep a business card or small note with you, typed with " I'm responsible for this group I brought in here and we are on a crawl. So I've got to drink very light. Fix me a club soda with lemon and lime and some cherry juice in a highball." Hand that casually to the bartender and say "I'll have my usual!" Pretty soon you won't need the card. Boom...nonalcoholic drink, no big deal made of it. Your liver will thank you.
If you want a drink at some point, don't say "my usual."
EDIT: you're bringing them business, so they'll do whatever you ask
^This. Bartenders are your best friends when you don't want to drink alcohol. There's no reason you can't be a sober and fun host and have no one be the wiser. Plus as the night goes on your party guests are less likely to notice, so you can always have 1-2 early in the evening and switch over to seltzer water as the night goes on.2 -
I personally would do a cheater diet sprite with mint and fake me a mojito...delicious and calorie free!?!? Plus you can sip to your heart's content and no one would be the wiser!3
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beemerphile1 wrote: »WAIT A MINUTE! Where are you located?
Your profile says you are 19 years old. The legal drinking age is 21in the USA. I realize there are people on the forum that are not in the USA, but most are.
There are actually a ton of people from other countries on this site (esp. Europeans) Since she says she works in a hostel, I think she probably isn't an American. Having said that, I still can't imagine a job where you are required to drink.
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Your job sounds awful. Find a better one. Your life choices dictate your success. If you chose badly, learn from it and change. If you chose to continue then don't blame the job for your inability to have success. The responsibility is entirely on you.11
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beemerphile1 wrote: »WAIT A MINUTE! Where are you located?
Your profile says you are 19 years old. The legal drinking age is 21in the USA. I realize there are people on the forum that are not in the USA, but most are.
Lots aren't in the US, and the fact that she said "pub crawl" tells me she is in Europe. People in the US go to "bars", not "pubs". And I don't really think "pub crawls" are that big here but they are in Europe.
I agree with those who say drink something else and no one will really know what you are drinking. I think Sprite with lime or sparkling water with lime are perfect because people will assume that you have a vodka or gin drink. I did that several times when I was younger and pregnant but didn't want my co-workers to know about it. They would have thought my not drinking was odd, but they just assumed I was. I think @AJF230 has a great suggestion.2 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »tiny_clanger wrote: »Whoah, stop jumping all over this person!
This is a very common summer job in Europe, particularly for British teenagers (who are allowed to drink from 18). They are expected to maximise alcohol revenue in the venues they take their groups to, by organising drinking competitions, forfeit games, etc. There is an expectation that they will drink, as their clients will also be drinking to excess. And yes, it is fairly common for people doing this job to be expected to drink to unconsciousness.
These are not the most scrupulous of employers, and a dry host will be perceived as "boring" and is unlikely to last long - it's not unusual for them to be driven out of jobs.
This sounds bogus -- drunk people aren't going to be good hosts, and are often quite boring and irresponsible. If you want someone organizing fun and encouraging others to drink (setting aside my issues with the last, which I don't think is ethical at all), better that person be sober and certainly not blackout drunk, ugh.
Your link didn't work for me, but I found this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/09/magalufs-new-drinking-laws-flouted-britons-punta-ballena-curfew-fines-police. What it talks about is pretty disgusting (not that there aren't disgusting pub crawls in the US sometimes), but it says nothing about it being an ideal for the host to be drunk.
And yeah, it's pretty easy to make a bunch of drunk people think you are drinking with them when you are not.
Why would that article say anything about the expected job descriptions for the host? That's a very silly argument to make. We now have two people who actually have experience with this phenomenon saying it's expected. Do you have any real reason to doubt their experience, or are you just doubting it because it sounds strange to you as someone who has literally nothing to do with that scene whatsoever (to the point of literally not being in the same country as the scene)?
I like the suggestions on how to not drink as much while still seeming to drink, but all this weird disbelief about whether or not she's expected to drink is silly.6 -
beemerphile1 wrote: »WAIT A MINUTE! Where are you located?
Your profile says you are 19 years old. The legal drinking age is 21in the USA. I realize there are people on the forum that are not in the USA, but most are.
Lots aren't in the US, and the fact that she said "pub crawl" tells me she is in Europe. People in the US go to "bars", not "pubs". And I don't really think "pub crawls" are that big here but they are in Europe.
I agree with those who say drink something else and no one will really know what you are drinking. I think Sprite with lime or sparkling water with lime are perfect because people will assume that you have a vodka or gin drink. I did that several times when I was younger and pregnant but didn't want my co-workers to know about it. They would have thought my not drinking was odd, but they just assumed I was. I think @AJF230 has a great suggestion.
Actually I live in a mid size city in the Midwest. The bar owners in the downtown area have a semiannual event called a pub crawl.1 -
tiny_clanger wrote: »Whoah, stop jumping all over this person!
This is a very common summer job in Europe, particularly for British teenagers (who are allowed to drink from 18). They are expected to maximise alcohol revenue in the venues they take their groups to, by organising drinking competitions, forfeit games, etc. There is an expectation that they will drink, as their clients will also be drinking to excess. And yes, it is fairly common for people doing this job to be expected to drink to unconsciousness.
These are not the most scrupulous of employers, and a dry host will be perceived as "boring" and is unlikely to last long - it's not unusual for them to be driven out of jobs.
For example
To anwer your question though, try and cut down on alcohol as much as you can. If you're discreet, you can sub water for vodka in shots. If you really have to drink, try and keep to clear spirits (vodka, gin, etc) as these are lowest in calories. Steer clear of sugary drinks and lager. Try and sneak in some singles and (diet) mixer as well, rather than always going for the double.
Can the person drink clear soda or water and pretend like they're drunk?
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Packerjohn wrote: »beemerphile1 wrote: »WAIT A MINUTE! Where are you located?
Your profile says you are 19 years old. The legal drinking age is 21in the USA. I realize there are people on the forum that are not in the USA, but most are.
Lots aren't in the US, and the fact that she said "pub crawl" tells me she is in Europe. People in the US go to "bars", not "pubs". And I don't really think "pub crawls" are that big here but they are in Europe.
I agree with those who say drink something else and no one will really know what you are drinking. I think Sprite with lime or sparkling water with lime are perfect because people will assume that you have a vodka or gin drink. I did that several times when I was younger and pregnant but didn't want my co-workers to know about it. They would have thought my not drinking was odd, but they just assumed I was. I think @AJF230 has a great suggestion.
Actually I live in a mid size city in the Midwest. The bar owners in the downtown area have a semiannual event called a pub crawl.
I'm sure there are some pub crawls in the US. But they are more commonplace in the UK. Her job leading pub crawls is a summer job, not a semi-annual event. When I read the OP I assumed she was in the UK, not that she was an underage drinker in the US. I didn't even realize that she was under 21.0 -
beemerphile1 wrote: »WAIT A MINUTE! Where are you located?
Your profile says you are 19 years old. The legal drinking age is 21in the USA. I realize there are people on the forum that are not in the USA, but most are.
Lots aren't in the US, and the fact that she said "pub crawl" tells me she is in Europe. People in the US go to "bars", not "pubs". And I don't really think "pub crawls" are that big here but they are in Europe.
I agree with those who say drink something else and no one will really know what you are drinking. I think Sprite with lime or sparkling water with lime are perfect because people will assume that you have a vodka or gin drink. I did that several times when I was younger and pregnant but didn't want my co-workers to know about it. They would have thought my not drinking was odd, but they just assumed I was. I think @AJF230 has a great suggestion.
I've been on many pub crawls. Never knew that's all it took to make me European...3 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »tiny_clanger wrote: »Whoah, stop jumping all over this person!
This is a very common summer job in Europe, particularly for British teenagers (who are allowed to drink from 18). They are expected to maximise alcohol revenue in the venues they take their groups to, by organising drinking competitions, forfeit games, etc. There is an expectation that they will drink, as their clients will also be drinking to excess. And yes, it is fairly common for people doing this job to be expected to drink to unconsciousness.
These are not the most scrupulous of employers, and a dry host will be perceived as "boring" and is unlikely to last long - it's not unusual for them to be driven out of jobs.
This sounds bogus -- drunk people aren't going to be good hosts, and are often quite boring and irresponsible. If you want someone organizing fun and encouraging others to drink (setting aside my issues with the last, which I don't think is ethical at all), better that person be sober and certainly not blackout drunk, ugh.
Your link didn't work for me, but I found this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/09/magalufs-new-drinking-laws-flouted-britons-punta-ballena-curfew-fines-police. What it talks about is pretty disgusting (not that there aren't disgusting pub crawls in the US sometimes), but it says nothing about it being an ideal for the host to be drunk.
And yeah, it's pretty easy to make a bunch of drunk people think you are drinking with them when you are not.
Why would that article say anything about the expected job descriptions for the host? That's a very silly argument to make. We now have two people who actually have experience with this phenomenon saying it's expected. Do you have any real reason to doubt their experience
Yes, I do. You can't do a job of the sort described as well if you are drunk out of your mind, so no employer would require that the person be drunk. It makes no sense at all, and is not supported by the description of the events (as I linked), which refer to the behavior and actions of the vacationers.2
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