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salt: yes or no

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  • chrisleyland314
    chrisleyland314 Posts: 39 Member
    Do NOT cut out salt! I made this mistake after taking some "bro" advice from a mate. He said salt/sodium leads to water retention so cut it out and you will dry up. So I did as told (without double checking this information) after a week of cutting salt to an absolute minimum step up to the squat rack and had the WORST cramping in my quads I've ever experienced! It lasted 2 days! 2 days of rolling around like a fish out of water on a foam roller! As you've seen throughout the discussion you need the goldie locks spot (too much, too little & just right)
  • dykask
    dykask Posts: 800 Member
    @chrisleyland314 I'm sorry, but I laughed when I read your post. Good warning though!
  • Wynterbourne
    Wynterbourne Posts: 2,224 Member
    I've wanted to pass quickly into unconsciousness after a mere minute or two of calf cramps. I can't imagine I would have kept my sanity during/after two days of quad cramps. *shudder*
  • chrisleyland314
    chrisleyland314 Posts: 39 Member
    @dykask it's fine mate I've only just started seeing the funny side of it myself.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 5,988 Member
    First I heard that not consuming salt at all was the best for health, then I heard that no, a little salt was actually good for the body. So which is it? And why?
    I'm currently consuming 0.5-1 teaspoon/day, is that too much?

    Yes and no...
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 5,988 Member
    I only avoid excess salt due to the fact I bloat like a balloon if I consume too much lol.

    Drink more water...
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 5,988 Member
    Vegplotter wrote: »
    A few rules:
    1. Never use table salt - it flows too freely and is full of additives.
    ???
    Vegplotter wrote: »
    3. Don't offer salt to your family. Have pepper on the table, but no salt.
    ???

  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 5,988 Member
    dykask wrote: »
    zyxst wrote: »
    dykask wrote: »
    zyxst wrote: »
    Stop with the salt porn. Poor me can't even.

    Hmmm ... In 2009 I was developing hypertension. My blood pressure was running 140+/90+. My doctor was ready to go to medications but I asked to give diet a chance first so he told me to cut the sodium. I worked at it hard, esp. I was spending short periods in Japan. But it worked to some extent .... 130s / ~88. Spring forward and 2012 on I'm living in Japan full time. My sodium intake is probably triple and last year my blood pressure was ~120/70. Huh?

    Well the salt is up but so is my walking. In Japan I don't have a car. I guess it is sodium one absorbs when in a car that is the killer. :smiley:

    (For those that don't know that Japanese diet is high salt, high carbs, generally low fat and low sugar.)

    Congrats and I hate you. :wink:

    I have similar BP stats which haven't changed after losing 177#, eating lower sodium, exercising, and following DASH. My GP doesn't feel my HBP is worth medication.

    In my case it took years before salt didn't bother me and who knows if it will last. I think the key difference is just how much walking I do along with exercise. Walking isn't really that much exercise but I do think it fixes a multitude of sins. In Japan it is mostly just a part of life. When I'm in the US it is really hard. The US life style isn't built around walking.

    If it makes you feel better I'm here trying to lose more weight. I'm down but I could use more. By US standards I'm not too fat, but Japanese standards I'm horrible.

    I think the bolded is the key. Exercise is great, but leading an active lifestyle IMO is even more key. The US lifestyle is definitely not built around walking. You really have to make it a conscious effort...
  • Monkey_Business
    Monkey_Business Posts: 1,800 Member
    edited August 2016
    All;

    I have been reading this with interest since this forum opened. Some of the advice is borderline (to say the least).

    In addition to the below listed signs and symptoms. An imbalance does also cause dehydration which can lead to heat injuries.

    I suffer from electrolyte imbalances very often and I am definitely not a happy camper when they occur. It usually takes up to 6 weeks to get everything back in balance. Just Google 'electrolytes' and see the many articles written.

    Below is one of the articles I came across:

    "Electrolytes are certain nutrients (or chemicals) present in your body that have many important functions — from regulating your heartbeat to allowing your muscles to contract so you can move.

    The major electrolytes found within the body include calcium, magnesium, potassium, sodium, phosphate and chloride. Because these crucial nutrients help stimulate nerves throughout the body and balance fluid levels, an electrolyte imbalance can cause a variety of serious negative symptoms, including some that are potentially deadly.

    You obtain electrolytes through eating different foods and drinking certain fluids, while you lose them partially through exercise, sweating, going to the bathroom and urinating. This is why a poor diet, too little or too much exercise, and being sick are some possible causes for an electrolyte imbalance.

    Some of the major roles that electrolytes have within the body include:
    •Calcium: helping with muscle contractions, nerve signaling, blood clotting, cell division, and forming/maintaining bones and teeth
    •Potassium: helping keep blood pressure levels stable, regulating heart contractions, helping with muscle functions
    •Magnesium: needed for muscle contractions, proper heart rhythms, nerve functioning, bone-building and strength, reducing anxiety, digestion, and keeping a stable protein-fluid balance
    •Sodium: helps maintain fluid balance, needed for muscle contractions, and helps with nerve signaling
    •Chloride: maintains fluid balance


    How Electrolytes Work and the Causes of an Imbalance

    Electrolytes are found within bodily fluids, including urine, blood and sweat. Electrolytes are given their name because they literally have an “electric charge.” They separate into positively and negatively charged ions when they’re dissolved in water. The reason this is important is because of how nerve reactions take place. Your nerves signal to one another by a process of chemical exchanges dependent on oppositely charged ions, both outside and inside of your cells.

    An electrolyte imbalance can be caused by a number of different factors, including short-term illnesses, medications, dehydration and underlying chronic disorders. Some of the common causes of electrolyte imbalance are due to fluid loss, which can stem from situations including:
    •Being sick with symptoms including vomiting, diarrhea, sweating or high fevers that can­ all produce fluid loss or dehydration
    •A poor diet that’s low in essential nutrients from whole foods
    •Trouble absorbing nutrients from food (malabsorption) due to intestinal or digestive issues
    •Hormonal imbalances and endocrine disorders
    •Taking certain medications including those for treating cancer, heart disease or hormonal disorders
    •Taking antibiotics, over-the-counter diuretics or medications, or corticosteroid hormones
    •Kidney disease or damage (since the kidneys play a critical role in regulating chloride in your blood and “flushing out” potassium, magnesium and sodium)
    •Chemotherapy treatments, which can cause side effects of low blood calcium or calcium deficiency, changes in blood potassium levels, and other electrolyte deficiencies


    Signs and Symptoms of an Electrolyte Imbalance

    Because electrolytes have so many different roles within the body, an imbalance normally causes noticeable changes in how you feel pretty quickly. Depending on the type of electrolyte imbalance you experience, a number of symptoms can occur including:
    •Muscle aches, spasms, twitches and weakness
    •Restlessness
    •Anxiety
    •Frequent headaches
    •Feeling very thirsty
    •Insomnia
    •Fever
    •Heart palpitations or irregular heartbeats
    •Digestive issues like cramps, constipation or diarrhea
    •Confusion and trouble concentrating
    •Bone disorders
    •Joint pain
    •Blood pressure changes
    •Changes in appetite or body weight
    •Fatigue (including chronic fatigue syndrome)
    •Numbness and pain in joints
    •Dizziness, especially when standing up suddenly"