Help!
tararooksby
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My trainer has me on a cut where my breakfast macros are 3 oz protein/2 cups veggies/0 g fat/0 g carbs. Help! I cannot find an option that isn't gross. Tried a power greens casserole with egg whites=blech! Any ideas are greatly appreciated! I'm not a natural savory breakfast person.
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Chicken and veg. Yum1
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Is your trainer a nutritionist? Why absolutely no carbs or fat? That doesn't seem enjoyable. Does he hate you?3
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Are there veggies that don't have carbs? And proteins that don't have fat?4
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Don't let anyone set you on anything unless they are a judge or a doctor. At the very least, get your trainer to give you a concrete meal plan with recipes.0
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Are there veggies that don't have carbs? And proteins that don't have fat?
I agree with this, it would be next to impossible to hit zero on those categories. Minimal amounts of both depending on the veg/protein but carbs and fat would still be there to some degree.
Are you willing to swap a meal that the trainer chose for later in the day and use that to build your breakfast instead? That could solve your problem and still keep you on their plan.0 -
Lol. I hope not. She has a degree in nutrition. I am meaning to ask her tonight why, because it has not been fun. The no carbs and no fat is only breakfast and lunch on training days. Lunch I can stomach. Breakfast not so much.0
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diets are based on daily consumption. Timing of nutrients has no impact on that. Any honestly, dietary adherence is the most important thing. Having a breakfast with just protein, is almost impossible but not worth it.0
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It's no additional carbs or fat outside the protein and veggies. So for instance the fat in ham doesn't count. But having an egg yolk would. I guess I'm looking for some ingredient and spice combos that aren't gross.
Right now the timing is specific so no I can't swap one meal for another.0 -
I think your trainer is making you do that because, in theory, it will make you burn off your fat reserves while adding muscle.
It sounds like your trainer wants you to eat a salad for breakfast.1 -
Yes, it's a significant cut plan, short term. I may just have to do that!0
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I think your trainer is making you do that because, in theory, it will make you burn off your fat reserves while adding muscle.
It sounds like your trainer wants you to eat a salad for breakfast.
Not really how it works.
Tara, I would question why your training is telling you to follow specific nutrient timing schedules. Your body doesn't run on a clock and will continue to process foods and store/breakdown nutrients throughout the day.0 -
BTW, what plan does your trainer have you on? I saw your diary was set at 2k calories, 185c/p and the rest fat. Is that the plan?
In terms of the original question, it's mainly just egg whites or other lean meats.0 -
I will certainly ask. We've done several cuts that have worked very well but this is the most drastic. I've had trouble this week being creative with breakfast and having a choice that can be prep ahead.0
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why can't you have fats or carbs for breakfast?
what matters is that you fill in your macros for the day, and the timing of when you get them does not matter.
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No, MFP is not accurate right now. I don't use it during cuts. My cuts are not calorie specific, only macro specific. Without typing it all out.....Workout days are 3oz protein and 2 cups veg at every meal/snack, and carbs at afternoon snack and dinner. Casein, fat and carbs before bed. Rest days are 4oz protein, some carbs/no fat early in the day, no carbs/some fat late in the day.0
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OP you might want to hit the quote button to reply to specific comments0
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tararooksby wrote: »No, MFP is not accurate right now. I don't use it during cuts. My cuts are not calorie specific, only macro specific. Without typing it all out.....Workout days are 3oz protein and 2 cups veg at every meal/snack, and carbs at afternoon snack and dinner. Casein, fat and carbs before bed. Rest days are 4oz protein, some carbs/no fat early in the day, no carbs/some fat late in the day.
Interesting.. a bit unnecessary but if it's working, then cool.
So you pretty much have chicken and veggies, or egg whites with veggies (maybe add some salsa on it to make it taster better).1 -
tararooksby wrote: »No, MFP is not accurate right now. I don't use it during cuts. My cuts are not calorie specific, only macro specific. Without typing it all out.....Workout days are 3oz protein and 2 cups veg at every meal/snack, and carbs at afternoon snack and dinner. Casein, fat and carbs before bed. Rest days are 4oz protein, some carbs/no fat early in the day, no carbs/some fat late in the day.
yes, but why?
when cutting you should keep protein at about .8 to 1 gram per pound of body weight; have fats at .45 grams; and then fill in with carbs or whatever you choose...
Macro timing is not important...what does matter is that you are hitting your ratios and doing strength training..0 -
tararooksby wrote: »No, MFP is not accurate right now. I don't use it during cuts. My cuts are not calorie specific, only macro specific. Without typing it all out.....Workout days are 3oz protein and 2 cups veg at every meal/snack, and carbs at afternoon snack and dinner. Casein, fat and carbs before bed. Rest days are 4oz protein, some carbs/no fat early in the day, no carbs/some fat late in the day.
I will admit I've never seen a plan like the one you are describing before, so bear with me, but is meal timing an important part of this plan? If I had those parameters, I don't think I'd find much I would want to eat for breakfast either, as I'm also not a savory breakfast person. Can you postpone the first meal of the day until closer to the traditional lunch hour?1 -
tararooksby wrote: »It's no additional carbs or fat outside the protein and veggies. So for instance the fat in ham doesn't count. But having an egg yolk would. I guess I'm looking for some ingredient and spice combos that aren't gross.
Right now the timing is specific so no I can't swap one meal for another.
This is really arbitrary. What exactly is different about the fat in an egg yolk that is different from the fat in ham?1 -
Yes, timing is set.tararooksby wrote: »No, MFP is not accurate right now. I don't use it during cuts. My cuts are not calorie specific, only macro specific. Without typing it all out.....Workout days are 3oz protein and 2 cups veg at every meal/snack, and carbs at afternoon snack and dinner. Casein, fat and carbs before bed. Rest days are 4oz protein, some carbs/no fat early in the day, no carbs/some fat late in the day.
I will admit I've never seen a plan like the one you are describing before, so bear with me, but is meal timing an important part of this plan? If I had those parameters, I don't think I'd find much I would want to eat for breakfast either, as I'm also not a savory breakfast person. Can you postpone the first meal of the day until closer to the traditional lunch hour?
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The fat in ham is minimal and the fat in the egg can be separated out. Low fat meat is encouraged but the fat in the meat (other than eggs) isn't factored in to the overall macros.tararooksby wrote: »It's no additional carbs or fat outside the protein and veggies. So for instance the fat in ham doesn't count. But having an egg yolk would. I guess I'm looking for some ingredient and spice combos that aren't gross.
Right now the timing is specific so no I can't swap one meal for another.
This is really arbitrary. What exactly is different about the fat in an egg yolk that is different from the fat in ham?
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tararooksby wrote: »
Yes, timing is set.tararooksby wrote: »No, MFP is not accurate right now. I don't use it during cuts. My cuts are not calorie specific, only macro specific. Without typing it all out.....Workout days are 3oz protein and 2 cups veg at every meal/snack, and carbs at afternoon snack and dinner. Casein, fat and carbs before bed. Rest days are 4oz protein, some carbs/no fat early in the day, no carbs/some fat late in the day.
I will admit I've never seen a plan like the one you are describing before, so bear with me, but is meal timing an important part of this plan? If I had those parameters, I don't think I'd find much I would want to eat for breakfast either, as I'm also not a savory breakfast person. Can you postpone the first meal of the day until closer to the traditional lunch hour?
why? Macro timing is irrelevant for about 90% of the population with the exception of professional body builders, and professional athletes, and even then you are taking about gaining a 1% edge..maybe...0 -
njd wrote:why? Macro timing is irrelevant for about 90% of the population with the exception of professional body builders, and professional athletes, and even then you are taking about gaining a 1% edge..maybe...
I'm not sure but will ask. All I know is each cut has been a drop fat and maintain muscle plan.
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tararooksby wrote: »
The fat in ham is minimal and the fat in the egg can be separated out. Low fat meat is encouraged but the fat in the meat (other than eggs) isn't factored in to the overall macros.tararooksby wrote: »It's no additional carbs or fat outside the protein and veggies. So for instance the fat in ham doesn't count. But having an egg yolk would. I guess I'm looking for some ingredient and spice combos that aren't gross.
Right now the timing is specific so no I can't swap one meal for another.
This is really arbitrary. What exactly is different about the fat in an egg yolk that is different from the fat in ham?
I am sorry but that does not make any sense. Fat = fat ....and having a higher fat macro, does not make one fat...0 -
tararooksby wrote: »njd wrote:why? Macro timing is irrelevant for about 90% of the population with the exception of professional body builders, and professional athletes, and even then you are taking about gaining a 1% edge..maybe...
I'm not sure but will ask. All I know is each cut has been a drop fat and maintain muscle plan.
I would definitely ask that and ask why there is an arbitrary limitation on when fat counts vs it doesn't. Because at the end of the day, total diet composition is what matters, not individual meals.0 -
Since you asked for spice flavoring ideas I'll suggest Cholula hot sauce - makes everything taste better
and I imagine it would make egg whites and veggies more edible. 0
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