Waist Trainers...

Do these have real benefits with exercising or lasting waist slimming?
I used to have a flat tummy with abs but always consciously stood up straight and "held it in".
Working an office job alone behind a desk and just slumped and relaxed, we'll definitely not a flat tummy now.
I bought a simple Velcro waist trainer and it certainly helps with the silhouette and and makes me more conscious of my posture. It also helps for a bit after I take it off.
Does anyone have long term experience or suggestions?
Im thinking of trying a corset too.
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  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    edean331 wrote: »
    I bought a simple Velcro waist trainer and it certainly helps with the silhouette and and makes me more conscious of my posture. It also helps for a bit after I take it off.
    Does anyone have long term experience or suggestions?
    Im thinking of trying a corset too.

    Please don't do what you're doing
  • edean331
    edean331 Posts: 60 Member
    Umm, ok, but why?
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    A waste of money, it doesnt help you at all. When you take it off your waist shape returns.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    edited August 2016
    AJ_G wrote: »
    edean331 wrote: »
    Umm, ok, but why?

    This basically:

    queenliz99 wrote: »
    A waste of money, it doesnt help you at all. When you take it off your waist shape returns.

    I'd also add that waist training with corsets can be physically dangerous if taken too far.

    these "waist trainers" are a bastardized version of a REAL corset and REAL waist training (aka tightlacing).


    I've said it time and time again, so i'm going to copy and paste it....


    Waist training is something you should only consider going into because you love corsets and WANT to waist train. Beware: waist training does re-arrange your organs and it can over time make it to where you NEED a corset because you atrophy core strength.

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    Now if this is the products you're referring to they are falsely called "waist cinchers". They are in fact NOT a true waist cincher (a type of corset) as they lack laces and boning. They therefore do not offer the level of compression or support an actual corset does to perform waist training. They are simply shapewear.

    Waist training with corsets IS real but involves steel boned corsets being worn for many hours a day for months at a time. This rearranges organs and narrows your ribs.

    These "waist cinchers" are only closed with a fish and hook lock at the front of the corset and contain no boning. They are made of neoprene (non breathable material) to help you sweat.

    So let's get this straight. If you're asking about the above It's a compression garment similar to spanx, made of material to make you sweat, and only intended to be worn for a short duration of time (while exercising).

    Any benefit you'll receive from this product will be incredibly minimal and temporary (water weight).


    p.s. real corsets look like this:
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    to perform REAL waist training these corsets must be worn for hours and hours and hours every single day. You cannot/should not exercise in them.
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Also, if you're using a waist trainer to improve your posture, you're doing it wrong. If you had weak legs, would you get casts on your leg to help support your upper body weight? All you're doing is REDUCING the strength needed in your core to hold better posture. You want better posture? Work on it.
    You want a flatter stomach? Reduce your body fat %.


    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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    yes, so in other words.... you are not "training" s#!t. You are doing the opposite of "training"
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    rainbowbow wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Also, if you're using a waist trainer to improve your posture, you're doing it wrong. If you had weak legs, would you get casts on your leg to help support your upper body weight? All you're doing is REDUCING the strength needed in your core to hold better posture. You want better posture? Work on it.
    You want a flatter stomach? Reduce your body fat %.


    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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    yes, so in other words.... you are not "training" s#!t. You are doing the opposite of "training"

    ie Atrophy
  • edean331
    edean331 Posts: 60 Member
    Point taken, rainbowbow.
    I am actually referring to a Velcro "waist trainer", as the box noted, next to the yoga mats and Pilates videos.
    The corsets are lovely, but I'm not at that phase and don't really plan on it, so nothing extreme, just wondering about exercise related waist apparatus :) and any trimming effects.
    One thing is certain, it holds in my tummy and really helps me be more aware of my posture, which I need to!!
  • edean331
    edean331 Posts: 60 Member
    Listen guys, I'm not going to the extreme, I'm just looking for a little support and reminder as I begin adopting better habits which first requires some conscious thoughts and efforts. I tend to be very forgetful, so this Velcro spandex belt is a nice reminder, "don't forget to stand up straight cause we are on a mission of health and strength" and it works! :)
  • grinning_chick
    grinning_chick Posts: 765 Member
    edited August 2016
    Wear one if you want. Just go into it knowing it is neither going to help you lose weight or give you any sort of permanent shape/silhouette change.

    While I've only ever worn boned corsets, I'd imagine a waist trainer is far more comfortable, and you probably feel far more sexier in it, than Spanx (waist trainers older sibling).

    As far as during exercise, if you need lower back/posture support for it, buy an appliance actually designed to be up to the task.
  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    If you are going for strength then the waist trainer is not a good choice. It does some of the work your muscles normally do and makes them weaker.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,992 Member
    edean331 wrote: »
    Point taken, rainbowbow.
    I am actually referring to a Velcro "waist trainer", as the box noted, next to the yoga mats and Pilates videos.
    The corsets are lovely, but I'm not at that phase and don't really plan on it, so nothing extreme, just wondering about exercise related waist apparatus :) and any trimming effects.
    One thing is certain, it holds in my tummy and really helps me be more aware of my posture, which I need to!!
    No trimming effects since fat loss is dependent on a calorie deficit and not compression. If compression worked, then people wearing tight clothes all the time should get thinner in those places and unfortunately that's not happening.
    And again, if it's taking away the use of your own muscle to support posture, then you're not strengthening the muscles needed to keep improving it.


    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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  • edean331
    edean331 Posts: 60 Member
    Well I don't need lower back support to exercise, so I guess I'll just use it in the meantime until I become more consistently focused on my posture :)
  • RoxieDawn
    RoxieDawn Posts: 15,488 Member
    edited August 2016
    OP if you are talking about a velcro waist trimmer to be used to "sweat in" during exercise, this is to be worn only during exercise to loose water weight.. this temporary weight.. and should only be worn during exercise, not all day to remind you to sit up straight (sorry to be so blunt)..

    And I am of the opinion anything worn to compress the stomach/abs worn longer than hour and worn day after day is naturally going to weaken your core muscles, compress your organs, possibly cause breathing problems if worn to long or too tight etc..

    Why not diet and exercise? .. strengthen your core and you will naturally begin to sit and stand up straighter.. bad posture can be worked on with conscious effort..
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,992 Member
    edean331 wrote: »
    Listen guys, I'm not going to the extreme, I'm just looking for a little support and reminder as I begin adopting better habits which first requires some conscious thoughts and efforts. I tend to be very forgetful, so this Velcro spandex belt is a nice reminder, "don't forget to stand up straight cause we are on a mission of health and strength" and it works! :)
    So let's say later you take it off. What's going to remind you then? Not trying to be harsh here, but it's like taking diet pills to suppress appetite. Once the pills are gone, did one really learn how to suppress appetite on their own?
    Good habits start with repetition. Start with just sitting up straight for a week and keep going from there.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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  • msalicia116
    msalicia116 Posts: 233 Member
    1. Just Why?
    2. False advertising

    Haha, sorry. Just my pov :)
  • edean331
    edean331 Posts: 60 Member
    1. Just Why?
    2. False advertising

    Haha, sorry. Just my pov :)
    Guys, it's a work in progress!!
  • edean331
    edean331 Posts: 60 Member
    Holy critical, batman...Batman should really autocorrect to a capital M :D
  • edean331
    edean331 Posts: 60 Member
    Absolutely, ninerbuff! Tho, my response was in regards to comments which were not in response to the question. :)
  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    Would you rather temporary results or permanent?
  • msalicia116
    msalicia116 Posts: 233 Member
    edean331 wrote: »
    Holy critical, batman...Batman should really autocorrect to a capital M :D

    Feel free to capitalize it.

    How am I being critical? What's with your projecting and sensativity? Hmm, are you not used to women who have an opinion? It wasn't being critical of yours btw.
  • edean331
    edean331 Posts: 60 Member
    edean331 wrote: »
    Holy critical, batman...Batman should really autocorrect to a capital M :D

    Feel free to capitalize it.

    How am I being critical? What's with your projecting and sensativity? Hmm, are you not used to women who have an opinion? It wasn't being critical of yours btw.
    Hmm, ok, definitely wasn't referring to you and appreciate your knowledge.
    Not sure what I was projecting and not sure about the sensitivity. Definitely I gotta be careful to avoid the defensiveness or argument and just stick to the valuable insights!
  • msalicia116
    msalicia116 Posts: 233 Member
    edean331 wrote: »
    edean331 wrote: »
    Holy critical, batman...Batman should really autocorrect to a capital M :D

    Feel free to capitalize it.

    How am I being critical? What's with your projecting and sensativity? Hmm, are you not used to women who have an opinion? It wasn't being critical of yours btw.
    Hmm, ok, definitely wasn't referring to you and appreciate your knowledge.
    Not sure what I was projecting and not sure about the sensitivity. Definitely I gotta be careful to avoid the defensiveness or argument and just stick to the valuable insights!

    Who were you referring to? Being vague doesn't help, does it? We know their name starts with a lowercase m. Hmm?

    My sensitivity comment was in response to you saying (someone) is being critical. And no explanation. Really, no one is being defensive, we're just providing insight. People ask a question, we respond with our pov, that's it. Nothing to be concerned with, and you'll get used to candid responses soon. It's quite productive actually, if you're not, you know, sensitive about it. Really no reason to be.

  • Alluminati
    Alluminati Posts: 6,208 Member
    No they don't benefit anything at all. For a better posture and long term results take up strength training.

  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edean331 wrote: »
    Do these have real benefits with exercising or lasting waist slimming?
    .

    No they don't, quite the opposite actually - by supporting the core they weaken it and make it flabbier

    edean331 wrote: »
    I used to have a flat tummy with abs but always consciously stood up straight and "held it in".
    Working an office job alone behind a desk and just slumped and relaxed, we'll definitely not a flat tummy now.
    .

    Too much food, too little movement will do that every time ...it's not the job ...it's the lack of conscious effort
    edean331 wrote: »
    I bought a simple Velcro waist trainer and it certainly helps with the silhouette and and makes me more conscious of my posture. It also helps for a bit after I take it off.

    It's working like Spanx does ...while you may be more conscious of posture it will not help retrain you in any way ..better to put a sharp pin there or something. The post wear help is sweat reduction and temporary

    edean331 wrote: »
    Does anyone have long term experience or suggestions?
    Im thinking of trying a corset too.

    If you like wearing it do, but it's doing nothing permanent and may well have the opposite effect

    Corsets, unless planning real waist training, are fashion fun

    Real corseted waist training is a long term fetish
  • lenoresdream
    lenoresdream Posts: 522 Member
    vespiquenn wrote: »
    I'm going to be harsh here. You clearly are buying into every gimmick possible to get quick results, based on your multiple threads. People are taking time out of their day to help you, only to get dense responses that "you're not going off the deep end."

    Aside from your portion thread, which you were very receptive of suggestions, nothing you have asked is going to work. You can either listen, or be back here in a few months complaining that you gained more weight or aren't losing because you keep trying quick fixes. I'm probably being a *kitten*, but why bother asking if you're going to do it anyways? You were told why you will weaken muscles by wearing a trainer, but you're going to anyways. I don't see what the point of posting is then in this case.

    If you would like to see how to lose weight in a sustainable way, I suggest reading the stickies at the top of the forums.

    Seconded.