Why is shirtless running ok only if you "have the right body type"?
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Never a debate in the running community. Shirtless isn't to show off. Shoes on the other hand....7
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Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
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You stated this perfectly....no shirt=totally not paying attention to others around you..& so much more.0
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Packerjohn wrote: »Should men be wearing shirts at a public pool or beach, because of "the children"?
I do. Like Gallomere said, it's my public courtesy to prevent vomiting.2 -
I'd go shirtless if I wouldn't get thrown in jail for it.7
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If God wanted us to be naked we'd have been born that way.
Clothes are only for when it's too cold out to not wear them.11 -
I personally do not judge what others do, but do I look when I crosses my eyes? Yes. Do I stare? Depends.. Eye candy always gets a second, third glance and a chubby runner with no shirt will always get a glance and maybe even an eye roll and the question of "Why"? But who cares.. I cannot do one thing about what others do, only my own reaction and if I choose to use class or not in how I deal with it.
If you have watched any Olympic Beach Volleyball, and seen the Brazil (female and men), they are just pretty to look at.. the others need to put on some clothes on, so hense eye roll and ask why, but I can choose to change the channel. ya???
I wear clothes too to prevent public mass vomiting, this will make me vomit if I see someone else vomit!
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Why do you CARE if someone runs shirtless though? How is it impacting your life? They aren't hurting you or your children unless you're afraid of answering a question if they ask.You stated this perfectly....no shirt=totally not paying attention to others around you..& so much more.
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Personally, I would prefer all men stay covered. I don't wanna see that. Women, on the other hand, can wear or (better yet) not wear whatever they like
Seriously though, I don't understand the shirtless thing from a comfort standpoint. I hate the feeling of being covered in a sheen of sticky sweat (it's humid here in summer. Sweat doesn't evaporate, and our bodies have not adapted to figure out that when sweating fails to cool us in such conditions, sweating more doesn't help.) Wearing a shirt helps wick a lot of that away from the skin. Of course once the shirt becomes completely soaked it's equally as gross. But generally for me, the modest increase in air flow over the skin doesn't offset the increased intensity of the sun hitting it.1 -
MarkusDarwath wrote: »Personally, I would prefer all men stay covered. I don't wanna see that. Women, on the other hand, can wear or (better yet) not wear whatever they like
Seriously though, I don't understand the shirtless thing from a comfort standpoint. I hate the feeling of being covered in a sheen of sticky sweat (it's humid here in summer. Sweat doesn't evaporate, and our bodies have not adapted to figure out that when sweating fails to cool us in such conditions, sweating more doesn't help.) Wearing a shirt helps wick a lot of that away from the skin. Of course once the shirt becomes completely soaked it's equally as gross. But generally for me, the modest increase in air flow over the skin doesn't offset the increased intensity of the sun hitting it.
Sweat doesn't evaporate.
Mkay.3 -
To his defense, he did say it was humid. As for the "intensity of the sun", I suppose for him (based on skin and hair color) that burning red isn't the same as getting tanned.Alluminati wrote: »MarkusDarwath wrote: »Personally, I would prefer all men stay covered. I don't wanna see that. Women, on the other hand, can wear or (better yet) not wear whatever they like
Seriously though, I don't understand the shirtless thing from a comfort standpoint. I hate the feeling of being covered in a sheen of sticky sweat (it's humid here in summer. Sweat doesn't evaporate, and our bodies have not adapted to figure out that when sweating fails to cool us in such conditions, sweating more doesn't help.) Wearing a shirt helps wick a lot of that away from the skin. Of course once the shirt becomes completely soaked it's equally as gross. But generally for me, the modest increase in air flow over the skin doesn't offset the increased intensity of the sun hitting it.
Sweat doesn't evaporate.
Mkay.
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Alluminati wrote: »Sweat doesn't evaporate.
Mkay.
When the humidity is over 94%, sweat doesn't evaporate quickly enough to do much good and ends up just sitting on the skin and feeling nasty.
Is it really necessary to explain every detail of context?
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haha not sure what to think of this thread. If anyone is secure enough with themselves to run shirtless then who cares?! Anyone worried about it or judging them has the problem. LOL at there being an age that it is acceptable.5
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To his defense, he did say it was humid. As for the "intensity of the sun", I suppose for him (based on skin and hair color) that burning red isn't the same as getting tanned.
It kinda is in my case. I turn reddish in the summer and people think I'm horribly burnt and in pain, but that's just my summer color. What I meant by the intensity of the sun is that I can feel the direct rays of sunlight on my skin, and that is uncomfortable when it's hot out.
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MarkusDarwath wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »Sweat doesn't evaporate.
Mkay
It When the humidity is over 94%, sweat doesn't evaporate quickly enough to do much good and ends up just sitting on the skin and feeling nasty.
Is it really necessary to explain every detail of context?
Yes it is. If you don't understand why people take off their shirts to run on a humid day, and say sweat doesn't evaporate so it can't be that reason, then yes details matter. No need to get salty.1 -
Opposite for me. As long as it's not too hot, I like the sun on my skin. I get dark as hell too.MarkusDarwath wrote: »To his defense, he did say it was humid. As for the "intensity of the sun", I suppose for him (based on skin and hair color) that burning red isn't the same as getting tanned.
It kinda is in my case. I turn reddish in the summer and people think I'm horribly burnt and in pain, but that's just my summer color. What I meant by the intensity of the sun is that I can feel the direct rays of sunlight on my skin, and that is uncomfortable when it's hot out.
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Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
I say a BIG BS to this whole post. I have aged and matured to my liking. There is nothing wrong with the human body.
Wrong on so many levels? Nope..just wrong on your level. Maybe if people gave a sh** about the real issues in life, this wouldn't cause you, your daughter or your effing neighborhood any stress?
Nice of you to project your view of why people do this..onto them..because they are attention "seekers" and they aren't mature.
I'm sorry..but this is nohing more than a very narrow minded view.18 -
MarkusDarwath wrote: »To his defense, he did say it was humid. As for the "intensity of the sun", I suppose for him (based on skin and hair color) that burning red isn't the same as getting tanned.
It kinda is in my case. I turn reddish in the summer and people think I'm horribly burnt and in pain, but that's just my summer color. What I meant by the intensity of the sun is that I can feel the direct rays of sunlight on my skin, and that is uncomfortable when it's hot out.
I know that feeling. "Ugh, the sun is touching me!" My husband laughs but it's exactly how I feel.1 -
Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
wait- why is taking your shirt off "setting an example and not coming across like a show off"
taking your shirt off isn't about being a show off- I mean it can be for sure- but it certainly isn't a be all end all.
really it's about social perceptions bout what is acceptable. Period.
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Alluminati wrote: »Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
When I was a teenager and woman in her early 20s, I do not recall being emotionally scarred by the sight of an exposed chest or back belonging to a man over 35. I'm really not sure why this is something you find so inappropriate. Maybe men just get hot, and it's not necessarily a form of peacocking?
I don't think that poster was implying that the young ladies would be emotionally scarred. He was implying that the 20 yr old girls (his daughters friends, presumably) would be ogling his hot dad body and talking amongst their friends in the neighborhood.
Roflmao.
To be fair, the poster you're referring to never implied that he would be ogled. I remember the vicious things that people said as teenagers. Some people don't want their kids to have deal with people snickering about their dad's paunch or nudist tendencies.
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I went for a run earlier without my shirt on, and it was guilt free because...
1. I don't give a *kitten*.
2. It was 90 degrees and sunny, and my farmers tan needs some attention.
3. I'm pretty sure the teenage girls who drove by on the way to church are preoccupied with something else right now and don't even remember the 41 year old shirtless jogger.
4. I don't let someone else's idea of emotional maturity dictate what I wear when I run. I want to be comfortable.
5. I don't in any way, shape or form think I am setting the wrong example for society. I am exercising. How is that wrong?
6. If anyone has that big of a problem with me or anyone else jogging on a Sunday morning sans shirt, they really ought to get their priorities in check. There are bigger fish to fry in this world.
Now please get the hell off my lawn.31 -
I think seeing "I don't give a *kitten*"
with F**k Replaced by kitten is deeply amusing to me. It seriously cracks me up. EVERY.TIME.
Secondly I agree with @kxbrown27- teens are to damn busy looking at their phones anyway- secondly they will judge you for something regardless-s might as well do what you want.8 -
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Triathlete1502 wrote: »Alluminati wrote: »Cutaway_Collar wrote: »It's part of emotional maturity. When you are over 35, you are pretty much in fatherhood territory and you need to set an example and not come across as the show off to passers by especially when there are children, teens and very young women around... Like in their late teens and early 20s.
Because you no longer fit the bill for young and dashing and society looks up to you to set an example. If I were 45 and I had a daughter... I'd never create a chance for her or her peers look at my shirtless body in my effing neighbourhood, and provide room for discussion. It's wrong on so many levels. Yet many dudes do this because they just seek the attention, because age is just a number and emotional maturity is often not proportional to age.
When I was a teenager and woman in her early 20s, I do not recall being emotionally scarred by the sight of an exposed chest or back belonging to a man over 35. I'm really not sure why this is something you find so inappropriate. Maybe men just get hot, and it's not necessarily a form of peacocking?
I don't think that poster was implying that the young ladies would be emotionally scarred. He was implying that the 20 yr old girls (his daughters friends, presumably) would be ogling his hot dad body and talking amongst their friends in the neighborhood.
Roflmao.
Not ogling. Admiring. The human body can be an art form, in whatever shape or form.
Mine's a Picasso.
OP, I don't run shirtless because if the girls aren't strapped down, I would have two black eyes. I don't care what other people do. Run shirtless if you want, run in your thong if you want.5 -
I think seeing "I don't give a *kitten*"
with F**k Replaced by kitten is deeply amusing to me. It seriously cracks me up. EVERY.TIME.
Secondly I agree with @kxbrown27- teens are to damn busy looking at their phones anyway- secondly they will judge you for something regardless-s might as well do what you want.
And their judgement means *kitten*, hence not giving a *kitten*.2 -
I think seeing "I don't give a *kitten*"
with F**k Replaced by kitten is deeply amusing to me. It seriously cracks me up. EVERY.TIME.
Secondly I agree with @kxbrown27- teens are to damn busy looking at their phones anyway- secondly they will judge you for something regardless-s might as well do what you want.
Alas, I have no kittens to give
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I am 47 and run in a sports bra outside. Surely don't care about men running without shirts on. But I heard that some freaks get upset about it. No other problems?6
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Free the nipple! For some on this thread this applies to men as well as women. When did we become so offended by something we all have? A body? Surely it's healthier from a psychological development point of view to be comfortable with the notion we come in all shapes and sizes and we should get on with our lives regardless of what is underneath our clothing?
I don't see it much here. But go to Scotland on any sunny day almost any day of the year and you'll see lots of "lads" with their "taps aff", actual temperature be damned. It's a tourist attraction really.10 -
VintageFeline wrote: »Free the nipple! For some on this thread this applies to men as well as women. When did we become so offended by something we all have? A body? Surely it's healthier from a psychological development point of view to be comfortable with the notion we come in all shapes and sizes and we should get on with our lives regardless of what is underneath our clothing?
I don't see it much here. But go to Scotland on any sunny day almost any day of the year and you'll see lots of "lads" with their "taps aff", actual temperature be damned. It's a tourist attraction really.
Taps aff? I need a definition, ty. Lol1 -
VintageFeline wrote: »Free the nipple! For some on this thread this applies to men as well as women. When did we become so offended by something we all have? A body? Surely it's healthier from a psychological development point of view to be comfortable with the notion we come in all shapes and sizes and we should get on with our lives regardless of what is underneath our clothing?
I don't see it much here. But go to Scotland on any sunny day almost any day of the year and you'll see lots of "lads" with their "taps aff", actual temperature be damned. It's a tourist attraction really.
brb booking flight to Scotland5
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