Do you count your steps as exercise?
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... how do you know you speak for the majority?
How do you know you aren't the minority in any subset just because that's your viewpoint doesn't mean it is widely shared ..perhaps the majority on MFP do want to keep calorie counting
It's just an odd way to phrase any subjective opinion to be honest, without the info to support it ..just dem feelsIt's true for the majority that I know here as we aren't that worried about a calorie or losing weight, more specifically to other goals. I do understand many people are here because they have a problem gainng/losing. I hope you have fun data
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This is what I stated, not the majority of MFP. I would hazard the majority of people sign up for MFP fail, not that is a bad thing. We learn from a failures. Though a lot of the advice you hear on here from vets is ignored for those who give advice who really don't have a great track record or have had great sucess. Part of the problem of MFP. People want to hear certain answers even if they aren't true.
If you honestly have a goal to log for the rest of your life, I think you are just making it hard on yourself when you don't have to. Your life though, just my bit advice as I try to give back to the fitness community just as a extremely successful person who became Mr Universe as well as many people I know here did for me. I hope things go well for you and everybody that is working for their goals.
Yeah, fair enough ...I missed that the "that I know here" and people bond with people like them
I don't learn from other people's failures, only my own and from intelligent forthright science minded people, unfortunately they are mainly gone from the boards now and have left this a poorer derp oriented place IMHO
So you were "Mr Universe" eh? That's some accomplishment, which year? still competing?0 -
I have mine set to track all day long like others. I don't actually input my steps as exercise. I only log exercises (time and duration). Whatever I get for an overage due to steps during the day is a nice bonus 0
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... how do you know you speak for the majority?
How do you know you aren't the minority in any subset just because that's your viewpoint doesn't mean it is widely shared ..perhaps the majority on MFP do want to keep calorie counting
It's just an odd way to phrase any subjective opinion to be honest, without the info to support it ..just dem feelsIt's true for the majority that I know here as we aren't that worried about a calorie or losing weight, more specifically to other goals. I do understand many people are here because they have a problem gainng/losing. I hope you have fun data.
This is what I stated, not the majority of MFP. I would hazard the majority of people sign up for MFP fail, not that is a bad thing. We learn from a failures. Though a lot of the advice you hear on here from vets is ignored for those who give advice who really don't have a great track record or have had great sucess. Part of the problem of MFP. People want to hear certain answers even if they aren't true.
If you honestly have a goal to log for the rest of your life, I think you are just making it hard on yourself when you don't have to. Your life though, just my bit advice as I try to give back to the fitness community just as a extremely successful person who became Mr Universe as well as many people I know here did for me. I hope things go well for you and everybody that is working for their goals.
Yeah, fair enough ...I missed that the "that I know here" and people bond with people like them
I don't learn from other people's failures, only my own and from intelligent forthright science minded people, unfortunately they are mainly gone from the boards now and have left this a poorer derp oriented place IMHO
So you were "Mr Universe" eh? That's some accomplishment, which year? still competing?
Not me, I worked out at a gym as a young teen that I was lucky enough to get a ton of advice from him. I think he won 84 & 86. I concentrated on football and was fortunate enough to have played into my thirties before retiring.
* Was a typo, we learn from "our" failures...meaning our own. I'm terrible at spell check mistakes.
I agree, there are still a few very knowledgeable people here, just when MFP started banning people from forums based on other people "reporting" their unpopular advice they have dipped greatly and rightly so.0 -
No need to. I know my rough TDEE with all my weekly activities on average. It seems very O.C.D. to worry about how much you walk since that is usually the same amount every day in general.
This is really not true for many people you know
Also if I get to the evening and have been a lazy *aardvark* then the dog gets a walk and I get my calories upped
I was answering the question asked in thread title. Though it is actually very true for many people. They worry wayyyy to much about being over/under on a daily basis. Tthe idea of this place in general is to be able to eat without counting calories eventually.
This may be true for you but I'm personally quite happy continuing to count calories ad infinitum....I'm a data geek ...love that I now have 2 and a half years data (including 19 months maintenance) to look back on...
I will also agree with this. I will be counting/logging indefinitely as I suck at proper portion sizing. Even after I meet my goal, I will be logging just to make sure I don't go over my maintenance.
Personally I'm hoping to be able to get away without logging all the time--but I will track my weight at a minimum weekly and start logging again if I have problems in maintenance.0 -
What I do is count it all at the end of the day as my tdee. It doesn't really matter how much I exercise, I do cardio mostly [heart problems and lifting don't go together...] so I just let my Alta track all my steps and subtract my TDEE - calories in and that's it.0
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Yes, in a way.
I have my activity level set to sedentary, as I always assumed the way I live my life and my job seem to be pretty low activity. I have a fitbit charge hr and I let that make any and all adjustments I need day to day after entering in my initial goals and activity levels. If I have a really active day, I can reward myself with a bonus, if not then its ok because I was already planning my meals around being a lazy lump.
tl;dr I let fitbit do its thing3 -
StaciMarie1974 wrote: »Easy solution: if you're losing faster than scheduled, then increase your activity level setting by one notch here in MFP. Should increase your base calories slightly.
All calories burned in a day factor into your deficit. Whether you label them as 'bmr calories' or 'exercise calories' or 'regular daily activity calories' does not change that. If your body uses energy, it is burning calories. And it is always using energy, the question becomes how much...
100% this..
Trend your weight daily and if you are (like @stacie said) going down at a rate the exceeds your goal, change the activity level.0 -
It is important that you know your TDEE and keep your calorie intake with it. You don't want to eat too little or too much. So yes your exercise calories are important and need to be taken into account. I honestly would be very surprised at 800 calories burned from walking however.0
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CasperNaegle wrote: »It is important that you know your TDEE and keep your calorie intake with it. You don't want to eat too little or too much. So yes your exercise calories are important and need to be taken into account. I honestly would be very surprised at 800 calories burned from walking however.
I've done 800 cals and 1,000 cals before, but that is very rare. Ususally happens when I walk 8-10 miles and I eat more to make up for it.0 -
I dont log daily steps, I go out for an actual walk (smetimes daily, sometimes only 3 or 4 days a week) and track that walk with map my walk and log that as exercise but thats all I log1
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Colorscheme wrote: »CasperNaegle wrote: »It is important that you know your TDEE and keep your calorie intake with it. You don't want to eat too little or too much. So yes your exercise calories are important and need to be taken into account. I honestly would be very surprised at 800 calories burned from walking however.
I've done 800 cals and 1,000 cals before, but that is very rare. Ususally happens when I walk 8-10 miles and I eat more to make up for it.
haha 8-10 miles isn't a walk to me.. it's a journey
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... how do you know you speak for the majority?
How do you know you aren't the minority in any subset just because that's your viewpoint doesn't mean it is widely shared ..perhaps the majority on MFP do want to keep calorie counting
It's just an odd way to phrase any subjective opinion to be honest, without the info to support it ..just dem feelsIt's true for the majority that I know here as we aren't that worried about a calorie or losing weight, more specifically to other goals. I do understand many people are here because they have a problem gainng/losing. I hope you have fun data.
This is what I stated, not the majority of MFP. I would hazard the majority of people sign up for MFP fail, not that is a bad thing. We learn from a failures. Though a lot of the advice you hear on here from vets is ignored for those who give advice who really don't have a great track record or have had great sucess. Part of the problem of MFP. People want to hear certain answers even if they aren't true.
If you honestly have a goal to log for the rest of your life, I think you are just making it hard on yourself when you don't have to. Your life though, just my bit advice as I try to give back to the fitness community just as a extremely successful person who became Mr Universe as well as many people I know here did for me. I hope things go well for you and everybody that is working for their goals.
Yeah, fair enough ...I missed that the "that I know here" and people bond with people like them
I don't learn from other people's failures, only my own and from intelligent forthright science minded people, unfortunately they are mainly gone from the boards now and have left this a poorer derp oriented place IMHO
So you were "Mr Universe" eh? That's some accomplishment, which year? still competing?
Not me, I worked out at a gym as a young teen that I was lucky enough to get a ton of advice from him. I think he won 84 & 86. I concentrated on football and was fortunate enough to have played into my thirties before retiring.
* Was a typo, we learn from "our" failures...meaning our own. I'm terrible at spell check mistakes.
I agree, there are still a few very knowledgeable people here, just when MFP started banning people from forums based on other people "reporting" their unpopular advice they have dipped greatly and rightly so.
Just make out already0 -
... how do you know you speak for the majority?
How do you know you aren't the minority in any subset just because that's your viewpoint doesn't mean it is widely shared ..perhaps the majority on MFP do want to keep calorie counting
It's just an odd way to phrase any subjective opinion to be honest, without the info to support it ..just dem feelsIt's true for the majority that I know here as we aren't that worried about a calorie or losing weight, more specifically to other goals. I do understand many people are here because they have a problem gainng/losing. I hope you have fun data.
This is what I stated, not the majority of MFP. I would hazard the majority of people sign up for MFP fail, not that is a bad thing. We learn from a failures. Though a lot of the advice you hear on here from vets is ignored for those who give advice who really don't have a great track record or have had great sucess. Part of the problem of MFP. People want to hear certain answers even if they aren't true.
If you honestly have a goal to log for the rest of your life, I think you are just making it hard on yourself when you don't have to. Your life though, just my bit advice as I try to give back to the fitness community just as a extremely successful person who became Mr Universe as well as many people I know here did for me. I hope things go well for you and everybody that is working for their goals.
Yeah, fair enough ...I missed that the "that I know here" and people bond with people like them
I don't learn from other people's failures, only my own and from intelligent forthright science minded people, unfortunately they are mainly gone from the boards now and have left this a poorer derp oriented place IMHO
So you were "Mr Universe" eh? That's some accomplishment, which year? still competing?
Not me, I worked out at a gym as a young teen that I was lucky enough to get a ton of advice from him. I think he won 84 & 86. I concentrated on football and was fortunate enough to have played into my thirties before retiring.
* Was a typo, we learn from "our" failures...meaning our own. I'm terrible at spell check mistakes.
I agree, there are still a few very knowledgeable people here, just when MFP started banning people from forums based on other people "reporting" their unpopular advice they have dipped greatly and rightly so.
Just make out already
Nobody told me there'd be a floor show1 -
CasperNaegle wrote: »Colorscheme wrote: »CasperNaegle wrote: »It is important that you know your TDEE and keep your calorie intake with it. You don't want to eat too little or too much. So yes your exercise calories are important and need to be taken into account. I honestly would be very surprised at 800 calories burned from walking however.
I've done 800 cals and 1,000 cals before, but that is very rare. Ususally happens when I walk 8-10 miles and I eat more to make up for it.
haha 8-10 miles isn't a walk to me.. it's a journey
LMAO! I admit those days are very rare. Mostly I walk 5-7 miles a day.1 -
I aim for 15-20k steps everyday. Anything over 3,000 steps is purposeful exercise for me.
I have my fitbit synced to mfp and walking is my only exercise, so ofcourse I'm going to count my steps as exercise.3 -
Does it burn calories? Does it burn enough calories to go over my sedentary allowance? I don't care what it is, be it running, strolling around the garden or exercising my fingers on the remote control, if it gives me calories above sedentary most of it gets eaten back. Calories are calories whither you get them from purposeful workouts or doing the chicken dance. Now how many calories you "think" you burn doing any activity is another matter.4
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So far I only count my steps when I start a workout. Counting steps all day instead of during workout periods kind of cheats the purpose in my opinion. Each tracker roughly has their own measurements of details with activities. The personal scientific tests and studies are very expensive for such a thing but if you want to try to further your own research you can look into, kcals to joules, personal measurements, lifestyle and circumstances, etc. for a more accurate reading of calories burned.0
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ChristopherLimoges wrote: »So far I only count my steps when I start a workout. Counting steps all day instead of during workout periods kind of cheats the purpose in my opinion.
cheats what purpose?
If I typically get 5k steps a day without exercise but say I don't based on choosing sedentary instead of light active what am I cheating...myself maybe out of some calories up front in the day but it's why I have a fitness tracker to track all my movements....all of them...2 -
CasperNaegle wrote: »It is important that you know your TDEE and keep your calorie intake with it. You don't want to eat too little or too much. So yes your exercise calories are important and need to be taken into account. I honestly would be very surprised at 800 calories burned from walking however.
This is a typical day for me:
- Walk to bus stop: 10 mins
- Walk to work: 20 mins
- Walk during lunch: 60 mins
- Walk to bus stop: 15 mins
- Walk home: 10 mins
- Walk to and from gym: 20 mins
Total mins: 135, or 2 hours and 15 minutes, and I burn 300 calories per hour from walking. So more like 700 calories per day.2 -
My calories are set for 1500 to lose. I have a fitbit flex that's synced up. I burn around 300 a day with 8000 steps which is normal for me. I eat back half those calories and still lose. I have mfp set up for not active so I can eat back those calories. If u have it set up for active then don't.0
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... how do you know you speak for the majority?
How do you know you aren't the minority in any subset just because that's your viewpoint doesn't mean it is widely shared ..perhaps the majority on MFP do want to keep calorie counting
It's just an odd way to phrase any subjective opinion to be honest, without the info to support it ..just dem feelsIt's true for the majority that I know here as we aren't that worried about a calorie or losing weight, more specifically to other goals. I do understand many people are here because they have a problem gainng/losing. I hope you have fun data.
This is what I stated, not the majority of MFP. I would hazard the majority of people sign up for MFP fail, not that is a bad thing. We learn from a failures. Though a lot of the advice you hear on here from vets is ignored for those who give advice who really don't have a great track record or have had great sucess. Part of the problem of MFP. People want to hear certain answers even if they aren't true.
If you honestly have a goal to log for the rest of your life, I think you are just making it hard on yourself when you don't have to. Your life though, just my bit advice as I try to give back to the fitness community just as a extremely successful person who became Mr Universe as well as many people I know here did for me. I hope things go well for you and everybody that is working for their goals.
Yeah, fair enough ...I missed that the "that I know here" and people bond with people like them
I don't learn from other people's failures, only my own and from intelligent forthright science minded people, unfortunately they are mainly gone from the boards now and have left this a poorer derp oriented place IMHO
So you were "Mr Universe" eh? That's some accomplishment, which year? still competing?
Not me, I worked out at a gym as a young teen that I was lucky enough to get a ton of advice from him. I think he won 84 & 86. I concentrated on football and was fortunate enough to have played into my thirties before retiring.
* Was a typo, we learn from "our" failures...meaning our own. I'm terrible at spell check mistakes.
I agree, there are still a few very knowledgeable people here, just when MFP started banning people from forums based on other people "reporting" their unpopular advice they have dipped greatly and rightly so.
Just make out already
Is this a form of a "rack pull"?0 -
No need to. I know my rough TDEE with all my weekly activities on average. It seems very O.C.D. to worry about how much you walk since that is usually the same amount every day in general.
I don't know how that's possible. Don't people do different things on different days, and spend their time away from work differently from their days at the office? I hiked 7 miles on Sunday, took it pretty easy (and drove home) on Monday and barely got 4,000 steps. On a typical work day how much I walk depends on how many meetings I have. Weather is a factor. Etc.
Also, I don't worry about it, it just happens, my watch tracks it, and sends the data on. Honestly, it's easier just to let the machines flirt with each other than to even try to guess at what my weekly average might be. Way more accurate too.1 -
... how do you know you speak for the majority?
How do you know you aren't the minority in any subset just because that's your viewpoint doesn't mean it is widely shared ..perhaps the majority on MFP do want to keep calorie counting
It's just an odd way to phrase any subjective opinion to be honest, without the info to support it ..just dem feelsIt's true for the majority that I know here as we aren't that worried about a calorie or losing weight, more specifically to other goals. I do understand many people are here because they have a problem gainng/losing. I hope you have fun data.
This is what I stated, not the majority of MFP. I would hazard the majority of people sign up for MFP fail, not that is a bad thing. We learn from a failures. Though a lot of the advice you hear on here from vets is ignored for those who give advice who really don't have a great track record or have had great sucess. Part of the problem of MFP. People want to hear certain answers even if they aren't true.
If you honestly have a goal to log for the rest of your life, I think you are just making it hard on yourself when you don't have to. Your life though, just my bit advice as I try to give back to the fitness community just as a extremely successful person who became Mr Universe as well as many people I know here did for me. I hope things go well for you and everybody that is working for their goals.
Yeah, fair enough ...I missed that the "that I know here" and people bond with people like them
I don't learn from other people's failures, only my own and from intelligent forthright science minded people, unfortunately they are mainly gone from the boards now and have left this a poorer derp oriented place IMHO
So you were "Mr Universe" eh? That's some accomplishment, which year? still competing?
Not me, I worked out at a gym as a young teen that I was lucky enough to get a ton of advice from him. I think he won 84 & 86. I concentrated on football and was fortunate enough to have played into my thirties before retiring.
* Was a typo, we learn from "our" failures...meaning our own. I'm terrible at spell check mistakes.
I agree, there are still a few very knowledgeable people here, just when MFP started banning people from forums based on other people "reporting" their unpopular advice they have dipped greatly and rightly so.
Just make out already
Is this a form of a "rack pull"?
@Chieflrg Now that you mention it they could also be named 'Lover Off the Bed Lifts' and now you can say they are even more functional an excercise than deadlifts!0 -
NorthCascades wrote: »No need to. I know my rough TDEE with all my weekly activities on average. It seems very O.C.D. to worry about how much you walk since that is usually the same amount every day in general.
I don't know how that's possible. Don't people do different things on different days, and spend their time away from work differently from their days at the office? I hiked 7 miles on Sunday, took it pretty easy (and drove home) on Monday and barely got 4,000 steps. On a typical work day how much I walk depends on how many meetings I have. Weather is a factor. Etc.
Also, I don't worry about it, it just happens, my watch tracks it, and sends the data on. Honestly, it's easier just to let the machines flirt with each other than to even try to guess at what my weekly average might be. Way more accurate too.
I see your point, but what I'm saying is for me and many people here there is no need to guess your exercise calories regardless once you have a few years into understanding your body and how it reacts. Therefore releasing the need to document every little movement in life. More natural and way more easy. If you want to log the rest of your life, nothing wrong with that. I chose not to.
Adjusting one's calories by average weight change is very acurate to the goal. When on my last cut, I consistently lost weight eating 3900 calories or so a day. If your body is losing too fast on average, eat more. If you gaining too quick on average, eat less. As I stated before this is leaning more towards the people who have a few years under their belt so to speak
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Of course people do different things on different days. Some of us don't have a office, or even work thankfully. That is the point..."average" day. Not everything HAS to be exact for it to be successful.
My initial answer that you highlighted was me answering the forum topic question for myself as it was asked. Though I still believe it pertains to most of people.
So if you had 5k less steps in one day, if you ate more that day, it still averages out for the week. Let's say a average person burns 200 calories in a walk you were short every day. That equates to 1400 calories and less than a half a pound weight gain. Adjusting your calories if you did in fact gain weight after a few weeks and problem solved.0 -
... how do you know you speak for the majority?
How do you know you aren't the minority in any subset just because that's your viewpoint doesn't mean it is widely shared ..perhaps the majority on MFP do want to keep calorie counting
It's just an odd way to phrase any subjective opinion to be honest, without the info to support it ..just dem feelsIt's true for the majority that I know here as we aren't that worried about a calorie or losing weight, more specifically to other goals. I do understand many people are here because they have a problem gainng/losing. I hope you have fun data.
This is what I stated, not the majority of MFP. I would hazard the majority of people sign up for MFP fail, not that is a bad thing. We learn from a failures. Though a lot of the advice you hear on here from vets is ignored for those who give advice who really don't have a great track record or have had great sucess. Part of the problem of MFP. People want to hear certain answers even if they aren't true.
If you honestly have a goal to log for the rest of your life, I think you are just making it hard on yourself when you don't have to. Your life though, just my bit advice as I try to give back to the fitness community just as a extremely successful person who became Mr Universe as well as many people I know here did for me. I hope things go well for you and everybody that is working for their goals.
Yeah, fair enough ...I missed that the "that I know here" and people bond with people like them
I don't learn from other people's failures, only my own and from intelligent forthright science minded people, unfortunately they are mainly gone from the boards now and have left this a poorer derp oriented place IMHO
So you were "Mr Universe" eh? That's some accomplishment, which year? still competing?
Not me, I worked out at a gym as a young teen that I was lucky enough to get a ton of advice from him. I think he won 84 & 86. I concentrated on football and was fortunate enough to have played into my thirties before retiring.
* Was a typo, we learn from "our" failures...meaning our own. I'm terrible at spell check mistakes.
I agree, there are still a few very knowledgeable people here, just when MFP started banning people from forums based on other people "reporting" their unpopular advice they have dipped greatly and rightly so.
Just make out already
Is this a form of a "rack pull"?
@Chieflrg Now that you mention it they could also be named 'Lover Off the Bed Lifts' and now you can say they are even more functional an excercise than deadlifts!
Oh, these...hahaha.0 -
I see your point, but what I'm saying is for me and many people here there is no need to guess your exercise calories regardless once you have a few years into understanding your body and how it reacts. Therefore releasing the need to document every little movement in life. More natural and way more easy. If you want to log the rest of your life, nothing wrong with that. I chose not to.
"the need to document every little movement in life" - really?0 -
I don't because it is factored in as part of my lifestyle.0
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NorthCascades wrote: »I see your point, but what I'm saying is for me and many people here there is no need to guess your exercise calories regardless once you have a few years into understanding your body and how it reacts. Therefore releasing the need to document every little movement in life. More natural and way more easy. If you want to log the rest of your life, nothing wrong with that. I chose not to.
"the need to document every little movement in life" - really?
I've seen people log everything from vacuuming to riding a motorcycle, yes. Some people choose too.0 -
My fitbit syncs with mfp so it goes down as exercise. I also walk for exercise - so I'm glad it counts it for me0
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NorthCascades wrote: »I see your point, but what I'm saying is for me and many people here there is no need to guess your exercise calories regardless once you have a few years into understanding your body and how it reacts. Therefore releasing the need to document every little movement in life. More natural and way more easy. If you want to log the rest of your life, nothing wrong with that. I chose not to.
"the need to document every little movement in life" - really?
I've seen people log everything from vacuuming to riding a motorcycle, yes. Some people choose too.
Yeah, logging stuff like this as exercise is really grasping at straws..
When i first got my fitbit i carried on as usual for a week and i was averaging between 2000-3000 steps everyday, very sedentary.
So like i said in my previous post, anything over those numbers is purposeful exercise, and i walk my butt off all day at warp speed lol to get to 20,000 which equals around 15kms/10m.0
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