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Anyone fail on a bio hacking diet?
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hamilton8560 wrote: »Using L-carnitine to get polyunsaturated omega 3s stored rather than burned sounds good to me. Are u using monohydrate? Yea hard to speculate how much water i gained on it since its intracellular, but its never noticeable. I avoid seated calf raises because they disengage the gastroc and for abs i still go heavy everyones genetic ratio for fast twitch to slow twitch can vary. Fast twitch hypertrophy vs slow twitch hypertrophy even at a lower capacity will still be more of a cosmetic improvement. Slow twitch fibers dont get unused at higher intensity like fast twitch doesnt at lower intensity as well.
1) Transport of fatty acids into the mitochondria means they get burned, not stored.
2) You don't want to store Omega 3s. You want them utilized by the body.
3) That's the whole point of seated calf raises. They isolate the Soleus.
4) I was not putting forward a legitimate synopsis of my approach.
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CorneliusPhoton wrote: »
Overall, your body will cycle between lipolysis and lipogenesis. Below is a great pictorial of that.
If you are fasting (using the chat above), you would have no increase in breakfast, but you would have two much larger increases for lunch and dinner. Overall, if calories are equal, fast loss is exactly the same thing.
Thanks for this info. I'd like to read more about the bolded. Do you have a source handy?
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/index.php/free-content/free-content/volume-1-issue-7-insulin-and-thinking-better/insulin-an-undeserved-bad-reputation/
The graphic is from here and some of the basic stuff if from that stuff.0 -
Thanks... I was editing my post as you responded.
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/index.php/free-content/free-content/volume-1-issue-7-insulin-and-thinking-better/insulin-an-undeserved-bad-reputation/
The graphic is from here and some of the basic stuff if from that stuff.
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CorneliusPhoton wrote: »
Thanks... I was editing my post as you responded.
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/index.php/free-content/free-content/volume-1-issue-7-insulin-and-thinking-better/insulin-an-undeserved-bad-reputation/
The graphic is from here and some of the basic stuff if from that stuff.
Ok. Yea, i didn't address the energy balance part specifically, but rather purely the hormonal aspect.0 -
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I'm just going to guess that high levels of caffeine are consumed while bio hacking?
OP, I think you're making this far more complicated than it needs to be, but it's awesome that you found something to get excited about and get great results from. :drinker:0 -
Isolating the soleus? For what? Stored in the mitochandria thats a negative being burned as a calorie does not mean being utilized, so not whole lot of fact present.0
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Because thats what resulted based on food logs and weight scale. Not every male or female has the same metabolism, can you agree on that? Or is it karvonen formula all day to fix everyone0
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hamilton8560 wrote: »Because thats what resulted based on food logs and weight scale. Not every male or female has the same metabolism, can you agree on that? Or is it karvonen formula all day to fix everyone
Metabolisms vary based on a lot of factors. TDEE varies based on a lot of factors. But was does that have to do with anything? If you are suggesting your TDEE increase by 1100 calories or more by switching to Keto, that just didn't happen. Keto only provides an increase to EE short term due to the increase in ketone production but during that period fat oxidation is reduced.
In fact, I am struggle a bit to understand what are you even trying to achieve or discuss? You seem to be conflating a lot of different topics but haven't been able to provide that in a manor that we can understand.1 -
Yea im not ketogenic so refer back to previous comments to come back into context0
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Of course we got some side comments about a guy wanting swoll soleus muscles which is funny0
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Hey carlos while ure at it give rotator cuffs and pec minor its own day to get jacked...0
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hamilton8560 wrote: »Yea im not ketogenic so refer back to previous comments to come back into context
Sorry, ultra low carb most days and 2 refeeds.0 -
queenliz99 wrote: »
Hmmm...Have I have ever had success getting enough sleep, reducing my stress, controlling my environment to eat less, excercising, and have a moderate deficit. Sounds fake1 -
Three pages in and I'm still waiting for OP to explain WTF is a "bio-hacking diet..."5
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Yea i mean im anti calorie deficit is the thing, i think i can ramp up to 4000 calories and 6000 on refeeds, still without cardio and only one hour workout days. So if i do that using this bizarre system, would it interest you guys? Im trying to kick calorie counting to the curb entirely. I have over 100 days logged on this stuff. It seems hostile from you guys so far but i am testing out stuff and as evidence of me being fat prior to the summer we cant assume i have freak natural genetics. If i get on stage without ever doing a cutting or bulking phase because of this am i changing anyones opinion at all?0
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hamilton8560 wrote: »Yea i mean im anti calorie deficit is the thing, i think i can ramp up to 4000 calories and 6000 on refeeds, still without cardio and only one hour workout days. So if i do that using this bizarre system, would it interest you guys? Im trying to kick calorie counting to the curb entirely. I have over 100 days logged on this stuff. It seems hostile from you guys so far but i am testing out stuff and as evidence of me being fat prior to the summer we cant assume i have freak natural genetics. If i get on stage without ever doing a cutting or bulking phase because of this am i changing anyones opinion at all?
I doubt you will change opinions on hacks because very little can actually influence metabolism. Exercise will provide temporarily increase metabolism and muscle will increase it, but outside of that, most of what is described in biohacking is a joke.4 -
hamilton8560 wrote: »Yea i mean im anti calorie deficit is the thing, i think i can ramp up to 4000 calories and 6000 on refeeds, still without cardio and only one hour workout days. So if i do that using this bizarre system, would it interest you guys? Im trying to kick calorie counting to the curb entirely. I have over 100 days logged on this stuff. It seems hostile from you guys so far but i am testing out stuff and as evidence of me being fat prior to the summer we cant assume i have freak natural genetics. If i get on stage without ever doing a cutting or bulking phase because of this am i changing anyones opinion at all?
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hamilton8560 wrote: »Yea i mean im anti calorie deficit is the thing, i think i can ramp up to 4000 calories and 6000 on refeeds, still without cardio and only one hour workout days. So if i do that using this bizarre system, would it interest you guys? Im trying to kick calorie counting to the curb entirely. I have over 100 days logged on this stuff. It seems hostile from you guys so far but i am testing out stuff and as evidence of me being fat prior to the summer we cant assume i have freak natural genetics. If i get on stage without ever doing a cutting or bulking phase because of this am i changing anyones opinion at all?
You're eating 2,200-2,600 calories 5 days per week and 4,000-5,000 the other two days. That's 3100 calories average for the week. That's not magical, that's easily close to your TDEE. Your eating in a deficit most the week with 2 days higher intake. Lots of people do that on accident here. You're not impacting hormones enough dieting for 3 days and then binge eating to think that it's magic.11 -
Theyre synergist in a lot of movements which is sufficient. If i was a baseball pitcher that would be different. Check my logs for the plan, psulemon youre the type im really trying to appeal to, so theres no course of action to reach you on this?0
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I'm a competitive bodybuilder and what you are saying you do is basically a carb and calorie cycling plan. I did that my first show and my second show I just sort of ate normally. The cycling method wasn't superior for results.
ETA: My gym performance was far better when I wasn't gorging one day and restricting carbs for a few days. Helped me come in looking fuller and more striated.5 -
hamilton8560 wrote: »Isolating the soleus? For what? Stored in the mitochandria thats a negative being burned as a calorie does not mean being utilized, so not whole lot of fact present.
1) The Soleus is not a hidden muscle. Proper attention to it enhances the look of the calf overall. Standing movements don't give it it's proper due.
2) I never said that the carnitine was for the fish oil. You made that connection yourself. I also said that I was putting forward a legitimate synopsis of my approach. I was just throwing out random ramblings to illustrate how incoherent your posts were.
3) The mitochondria don't store fat. Do you even science bro?7 -
hamilton8560 wrote: »Of course we got some side comments about a guy wanting swoll soleus muscles which is funny
Not sure how anything could be a "side comment" in this variety show...2 -
0331 uscmp sup, so just steady low gi carbs all day worked better for you?0
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hamilton8560 wrote: »Hey carlos while ure at it give rotator cuffs and pec minor its own day to get jacked...
I do internal and external rotations at the end of shoulder day. They don't need their own day but they are important for injury prevention.0 -
A 3100 TDEE seems about right to me. I'm not gonna lie though, I'm confused as hell on what is going on here. I feel like I'm relatively knowledgeable but this thread makes me feel like a third grader.3
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hamilton8560 wrote: »0331 uscmp sup, so just steady low gi carbs all day worked better for you?
No, I didn't even pay attention to GI because the GI ratings of foods are impacted by portion size and things you eat them with. I ignored all that clean eating, carb cycling, gi, meal timing bullcrap and just ate in whatever way made me full and happy. I counted calories still, but basically tried to hit protein and ensure fat wasn't too low (mostly for my joints and old injuries). Worked pretty well, I took first in women's heavyweight.8 -
I'm a competitive bodybuilder and what you are saying you do is basically a carb and calorie cycling plan. I did that my first show and my second show I just sort of ate normally. The cycling method wasn't superior for results.
ETA: My gym performance was far better when I wasn't gorging one day and restricting carbs for a few days. Helped me come in looking fuller and more striated.
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dumbbell press is fine carlos if you dont experience shoulder pain0
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