Too much sugar in fruit, is that bad?

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  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    valerialeek wrote: »
    Stick to two serves of fruit

    Why?

    Yesterday I had grapes, an apple, and a banana. I hit my protein and fat goals for the day. What is the harm in eating more fruit (or anything else, for that matter) if you are within your goals for the day?
  • JeromeBarry1
    JeromeBarry1 Posts: 10,179 Member
    sana66 wrote: »
    i hear wat everyones saying, just out of curiosity, how does atkins make u loose weight coz ur counting carbs not calories right?

    And protein takes calories to digest it and make it available as fuel. Every 100 calories of meat you consume yields 60 calories of energy to your body. By making carbs a tiny part of your food plan and meat a large part, you can eat your NEAT and still be in a large net calorie deficit, or you can eat in a modest excess of your NEAT and remain in a modest calorie deficit. Keto is a trick on the individual mind, not on the science.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,002 Member
    valerialeek wrote: »
    Stick to two serves of fruit
    Because...?
  • pasewaldd
    pasewaldd Posts: 24 Member
    I have worried about having too much fruit, also. This discussion actually helps.
    Another thing about calories and calorie deficit... for quite a while I wasn't tracking my calories (and I eat very clean and work out quite a bit). Since I wasn't tracking, I thought I was eating enough and my weight stayed the same at 130 for a long time so I figured I was eating too much. So, I started eating less. And then the kicker... I gained 2 lbs. I recently got back into tracking and doing carb cycling. Eating way more and already lost 4 pounds. And I eat fruit, but mostly on my carb days. Hope this helps a little. :)
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    MFP bases their sugar "goal" on the recommendation that people get no more than 10% of their calories from added sugar. However, the system currently has no way to distinguish between added sugar and "natural sugar". So fruit sugars shouldn't even count towards that limit.

    That said, I agree with others that there's no reason to limit sugar as long as you are feeling satiated and getting enough nutrients in your diet as a whole (and you don't have a medical reason).
  • AmberSpamber
    AmberSpamber Posts: 391 Member
    This isn't the case for most people, but I stopped losing for a bit and when I went from 3 servings of fruit a day, down to 1-2, it helped kick start things again. I was fine up until that point, so if you stall, that is the only reason I would worry about it. Fruit has so many good nutrients and vitamins in them, that I want them in my daily diet, So, I don't really count sugar from fruit when I look at my daily goals. I use that strictly for non natural sugar.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    edited September 2016
    StorkFootFamily wrote: »
    Jane, you're right, I should have cited a source. I normally hesitate to post more than 1 link because I feel like I'm going to insult the reader's intelligence by making it seem like I don't think they're capable of doing their own research (after all, you are adults on the internet). Here is an article simplifying a study from Harvard: http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/06/when-a-calorie-is-not-just-a-calorie/

    I can't spend any more time on the subject today (I already spent more than I meant to!). Do you have any studies to post that scientifically explain why all calories are treated exactly the same in the body to convince me? I'll be happy to learn something new, and since you've established that it's a requirement to site a source, I'm a little surprised you haven't done it yet.

    I only brought up the subject because I saw so many comments along the lines of "it doesn't matter, as long as you burn the calories." I honestly believe that health is more important than weight (and I thought health might be a concern for someone on a "nutrition" board), so I gave the original poster an answer that included information that might be beneficial if she is also concerned about her overall health (that the sugar in fruit is balanced nicely with fiber, so it isn't as much of a concern as added sugar).

    I'm sorry I didn't specify that by "calorie content" I meant the food that you're eating (and how nutritionally viable it is) that make up your calorie count. I thought that was kinda obvious.

    You may believe that health is more important than weight, but that doesn't really address the question in the OP. If you want to discuss your belief that health is more important than weight, you may want to start a thread discussing that (the debate area may be a good place for that thread).

    As far as the claim that our weight is determined by the calories we eat and burn, you can believe it or disbelieve it as you choose. If you're inclined to dismiss that theory and throw your lot in with Ludwig's POV, I can't imagine any source I could post would convince you otherwise. Keep in mind that I never said "it doesn't matter" what one eats (I would never say that, as it isn't what I believe). My answer should be read *in the context of the OP's question* about weight loss.
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  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    The only issue with eating too much fruit is that it's hard to meet your fat and protein macros.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,204 Member
    I lost 60+ pounds while going over my MFP sugar goal every single day. Much of that time, the only added sugar I ate was some concentrated fruit juice that wasn't even at the top of the ingredient list in 1Tbsp of all-fruit spread (30 calories) I put in my oatmeal daily. Most of rest of the sugar was from fruit, or the milk sugars inherent in unsweetened nonfat/lowfat dairy foods, plus a tiny bit from miscellaneous other whole foods.

    The only reason to limit fruit, IMO, is to make sure you're getting enough protein, fat, and micronutrients that don't happen to be in the fruits you prefer.

    Good, balanced nutrition is an excellent goal for health. A calorie deficit is additionally necessary, if you want weight loss. After that, unless you have a major or minor medical condition, there's no reason to limit any specific food - unless the limitation helps you personally achieve good nutrition or stick with your calorie goal.

    Consider changing your MFP diary layout to remove tracking sugar, and replace it with something of more daily interest to you (I replaced it with fiber tracking). You can still run a report if you want to look at sugar.
  • extra_medium
    extra_medium Posts: 1,525 Member
    StorkFootFamily wrote: »
    Do you have any studies to post that scientifically explain why all calories are treated exactly the same in the body to convince me?

    It doesn't require a study, a calorie is just a unit of energy. It doesn't imply nutritional content one way or another. The OP asked if too much sugar in fruit will hinder her weight loss and it won't, and that's all anyone has been saying.
  • GregStone2
    GregStone2 Posts: 45 Member
    no the frutose sugar in fruit wont hurt you unless your on a low carb diet 20 -50-50-100 then you should only eat 1 serving for 20-50and 2 50 up to 100
  • gothchiq
    gothchiq Posts: 4,590 Member
    I think it is all right unless you have diabetes, prediabetes or any other medical condition in which your doctor instructs you to limit sugar. I would otherwise not worry at all. MFP is pretty A-R about its sugar limits. Most people don't need to be so strict.

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