Morbid obese calories
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What is the best calorie intake for morbid obese people? I'm talking a morbidly obese person with 100+lbs who needs to lose weight ASAP due to medical issues.
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The weight wasn't gained overnight and it won't be lost overnight.
The most important thing is that the calorie goal is manageable on a long-term basis. Too low is likely to lead to binging or quitting. Slow weight loss is still weight loss. Weight loss is a marathon, not a sprint.
Start by logging normal intake for a week or two. You can then go back through to see where you might eat smaller portions or substitute calorie-dense foods you like with other foods that you also like.
This chart has good general advice:
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You could go for 1200 calories base intake nutrition focused plan on your own. Alternatively, you could discuss even more drastic options with your doctor and get into a medically supervised plan if the benefits of quick weight loss outweigh the risks in your particular case.4
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Set your weight loss goals to one and a half pound loss per week. After a month, reevaluate to decide if you want to increase to two pounds or to decrease to one pound weight loss per week.3
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ShohanaABencomo wrote: »What is the best calorie intake for morbid obese people? I'm talking a morbidly obese person with 100+lbs who needs to lose weight ASAP due to medical issues.
The best calorie intake for YOU is the calorie intake that provides you with the fastest loss while eating as many calories you can, and a calorie deficit YOU can stick to. 1% of your body weight is a good weekly loss. Calculate your TDEE. Your TDEE minus 1% of your total body weight in grams will be your optimal calorie intake. For instance, if you weigh 125 kilos, you can expect to lose up to 1.25 kilos per week. If your TDEE is 2762 calories, and 2762-1250 is 1512, 1512 calories will then be the intake that gives you the greatest fat loss and the smallest lean mass loss. The optimal calorie intake will decrease somewhat as you lose weight, but never go below 1200 or your TDEE minus 1%.0 -
I started off at 250 lbs, 5'3" with no medical issues, needing to lose 110 lbs. I lost 70 my first year which made a huge difference in my comfort and appearance. I was eating 1500 cals (I got that number by a goof in setting up my profile, but I adjusted pretty quickly and decided to stick to it).
I could have eaten a lot more and lost more slowly. Whether you need to lose that quickly is something for you and your doctor to discuss.
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The best number of calories is the number of calories that lets you get all your required nutrients - the ones that you can't get from burning stored fat, the ones that you need daily like water-soluable vitamins. And also the number of calories that lets you lose at a supportable, sustainable rate.
Like others said - it didn't go on in a week or a month, you cannot expect it to go away in a week or a month. We're conditioned to think that somehow there is some magic that will let that happen, but there isn't.0 -
Why overcomplicate things? With 100+ pounds to lose, just put your stats into MFP, select a weight loss goal of 2 pounds per week, and eat the calories it gives you.
Select your Activity Level based on your job, log your exercise separately, and experiment with what percentage of your exercise calories you eat back.
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If you set up with MFP, you are capped at 2 pounds a week or 1200 calories.
Losing weight faster is sometimes indicated for certain weight/health conditions, but it should be done under the supervision of a doctor because there could potentially be serious side effects, and the doctor can help with the risk/benefit analysis as well as monitor for adverse reactions. For instance, a surprising number of people end up losing their gallbladders due to too rapid weight loss.0 -
If you are under a doctor's care for the medical issues, the doctor should be able to give you an idea (or a referral) so that you know what you should be eating and how much you should be losing safely.0
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I don't know what your starting weight and height is, but I started at 5'3" and 258 lbs. I have been logging for 11 weeks tomorrow and am down 33 lbs. The only thing I did was enter my numbers into here and set my goal to a 2 lb loss per week. Due to starting at such a high weight, the lbs have come off a bit faster than that at first but are now starting to level out at 2 lbs per week.
This is the best way to do this and the best way to make this long term. I know you may need to lose weight for medical reasons, but you have to do this the healthy way.4 -
When I started MFP in January, I put in all my stats and of course, I wanted to lose 2lbs per week being sedentary, and was told that 1760 was the ideal number of calories for me. As I have dropped weight, that has changed and I am now at 1200 calories and still losing. I find 1200 calories entirely reasonable for me - not hungry, not sick, not losing hair or feeling weak! And I have lost 107lbs since October last year. Weight loss has slowed, but I am ok with it, as I know I am still on plan, and the rest of the baggage will shift eventually.
So my advice is to follow what MFP tells you to do, and have faith, and stick with it.6 -
You can safely lose 1% of your total body weight per week.
Someone said "The most important thing is that the calorie goal is manageable on a long-term basis. Too low is likely to lead to binging or quitting. Slow weight loss is still weight loss. Weight loss is a marathon, not a sprint."
Unfortunately, if you are morbidly obese i don't believe this is true. It may be more beneficial to focus now on losing as much as you can while you can. See your physician for assistance if needed.3 -
kommodevaran wrote: »ShohanaABencomo wrote: »What is the best calorie intake for morbid obese people? I'm talking a morbidly obese person with 100+lbs who needs to lose weight ASAP due to medical issues.
The best calorie intake for YOU is the calorie intake that provides you with the fastest loss while eating as many calories you can, and a calorie deficit YOU can stick to. 1% of your body weight is a good weekly loss. Calculate your TDEE. Your TDEE minus 1% of your total body weight in grams will be your optimal calorie intake. For instance, if you weigh 125 kilos, you can expect to lose up to 1.25 kilos per week. If your TDEE is 2762 calories, and 2762-1250 is 1512, 1512 calories will then be the intake that gives you the greatest fat loss and the smallest lean mass loss. The optimal calorie intake will decrease somewhat as you lose weight, but never go below 1200 or your TDEE minus 1%.
This is how I lost 100 lbs.0 -
I think it's even more true for the morbidly obese. Weight loss is going to be long-term if you have 100+ pounds to lose. There's no way around that. Don't expect the weight to fall off. You need to put in the low calorie work week after week after week for one or two years and maybe longer. You have to be able to comply consistently.rainbowbow wrote: »Someone said "The most important thing is that the calorie goal is manageable on a long-term basis. Too low is likely to lead to binging or quitting. Slow weight loss is still weight loss. Weight loss is a marathon, not a sprint."
Unfortunately, if you are morbidly obese i don't believe this is true. It may be more beneficial to focus now on losing as much as you can while you can. See your physician for assistance if needed.1 -
ShohanaABencomo wrote: »What is the best calorie intake for morbid obese people? I'm talking a morbidly obese person with 100+lbs who needs to lose weight ASAP due to medical issues.
The ASAP thing .......there are very low calorie MEDICALLY SUPERVISED programs. These aren't do it yourself plans, and no one on MFP will recommend them. It's against MFP policy to support very low calorie diets.
@kommodevaran is right. Find your TDEE and start there.0 -
I decided to start my journey on losing weight. I went to a weight loss Doctor last Thursday September 8, 2016. My staring weight was 198 lbs at 5'7". They checked all my stats my good body fat, bad body fat, my hydration levels and we started from there. My bad body fat was at 39.5% which isn't too bad , but not where I should be, so they recommended that I start on a 1500 calorie diet with the assistance of Adapex. When I input my info into MFP it said my calorie intake should only be 1310 calories. I decided to stick to what MFP calories were and In one week I have lost 8 pounds and still counting. When you want to lose a large amount of weight it is best if you see a weight loss Doctor before making any decisions on what your calories should be. You will get healthier results! Best of luck!
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I decided to start my journey on losing weight. I went to a weight loss Doctor last Thursday September 8, 2016. My staring weight was 198 lbs at 5'7". They checked all my stats my good body fat, bad body fat, my hydration levels and we started from there. My bad body fat was at 39.5% which isn't too bad , but not where I should be, so they recommended that I start on a 1500 calorie diet with the assistance of Adapex. When I input my info into MFP it said my calorie intake should only be 1310 calories. I decided to stick to what MFP calories were and In one week I have lost 8 pounds and still counting. When you want to lose a large amount of weight it is best if you see a weight loss Doctor before making any decisions on what your calories should be. You will get healthier results! Best of luck!
But you went against Dr's recommendations (?). Anyway, keep in mind MFP calories are before any exercise. So if you told your doctor you would be exercising then that might account for the difference.0 -
ShohanaABencomo wrote: »What is the best calorie intake for morbid obese people? I'm talking a morbidly obese person with 100+lbs who needs to lose weight ASAP due to medical issues.
I started with 200lbs to lose, so even after 70lbs lost, I'm still rockin' the morbidly obese title. I never starved myself for the loss, not a single day.
In fact, if you go back past this week (a lot of stuff happening and I'm hoping to just stay at maintenance right now, so go back like two weeks ago to when I was eating normal) in my diary, most days I get over 2,000kcal to lose 2lbs/week with my exercise.
I don't care how much you have to lose, unless you're in danger of an obesity-related medical emergency, you need to eat enough to fuel your body. And if you're in so much health-related danger that it warrants a very low calorie amount, you should be under medical supervision and they can tell you how much to eat.8 -
ShohanaABencomo wrote: »What is the best calorie intake for morbid obese people? I'm talking a morbidly obese person with 100+lbs who needs to lose weight ASAP due to medical issues.
I started with 200lbs to lose, so even after 70lbs lost, I'm still rockin' the morbidly obese title. I never starved myself for the loss, not a single day.
In fact, if you go back past this week (a lot of stuff happening and I'm hoping to just stay at maintenance right now, so go back like two weeks ago to when I was eating normal) in my diary, most days I get over 2,000kcal to lose 2lbs/week with my exercise.
I don't care how much you have to lose, unless you're in danger of an obesity-related medical emergency, you need to eat enough to fuel your body. And if you're in so much health-related danger that it warrants a very low calorie amount, you should be under medical supervision and they can tell you how much to eat.
That part. I was, and may still be considered, morbidly obese. I eat 1800 calories most days, some days less. I did not have any medical issues but I needed to lose weight. I did not starve either. I have lost 150 lbs and still going. I do exercise for about an hour 6 times per week.1 -
If you are under a doctor's care for the medical issues, the doctor should be able to give you an idea (or a referral) so that you know what you should be eating and how much you should be losing safely.
Respectfully, I agree with this. None of us know the medical risks (or the urgency of the medical risks) you face at your current weight. Losing weight at an unsustainable pace also has risks, but none of us know how to weigh those risks against the other risks you face. I think your doctor would be the best positioned to advise on your very valid, legitimate question.1 -
Ask your doctor for a referral to a registered dietician.0
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5'6 currently 249 down from 276. I eat 2200 a day, before workouts, based on what fitbit recommends for me. I have a very high activity level. (TDEE is usually around 3500-4000 according to Fitbit) This is set for 2 pounds a week but since I am usually(but not always) a lot less active on the weekends this works out to more like 1 pound a week which is okay with me.1
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Thank you everyone. I have an umbilical hernia which needs surgery for repair as soon as possible because it is becoming larger. However there are more risks when morbidly obese. I also have gallbladder stones. I'm currently at 265 and was advised to lose as much as possible to undergo surgery.0
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As a general rule about 10 calories per pound will put you at a deficit, so at 265, starting out at 2650 per day would likely give you results. You'd need to occasionally adjust that, but it's really an easy starting point.
I'm 180, and I eat 1800/day and that's about a 500cal/day deficit for me. I don't necessarily use the 10 rule myself (I alter it a bit more often), it just happens to be pretty consistent.0 -
ShohanaABencomo wrote: »Thank you everyone. I have an umbilical hernia which needs surgery for repair as soon as possible because it is becoming larger. However there are more risks when morbidly obese. I also have gallbladder stones. I'm currently at 265 and was advised to lose as much as possible to undergo surgery.
Can your surgeon or GP refer you to a dietician to assist you?
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As a general rule about 10 calories per pound will put you at a deficit, so at 265, starting out at 2650 per day would likely give you results. You'd need to occasionally adjust that, but it's really an easy starting point.
I'm 180, and I eat 1800/day and that's about a 500cal/day deficit for me. I don't necessarily use the 10 rule myself (I alter it a bit more often), it just happens to be pretty consistent.
I don't think that works well if you're at a higher weight. I'm 6'0" and 300lbs, and my TDEE most days is around 3000kcal with exercise, so that would be no deficit, much less the 1000kcal deficit I aim for.1 -
Another (probably not very scientific) rule of thumb is that a pound of fat can provide up to 30 calories per day. If you know your percentage body fat, you can estimate your max deficit (before your body has to metabolize lean body mass).
So to take round numbers as an illustration, 265*50%*30=3975 calories of energy your body can metabolize from fat stores without eating anything. This is why morbidly people can go on Very Low Calorie Diets, but it **really** requires doctor supervision.
Healing requires more calories, so cut your deficit after surgery. Professional medical guidance is best here, too. Good luck with your surgery and take care of yourself!0 -
Repeating myself, here. Sorry for that. OP, your question is completely legitimate and valid. Yours is a complex situation of balancing risks. Ask your doctor for help. Nothing wrong with that!1
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ShohanaABencomo wrote: »Thank you everyone. I have an umbilical hernia which needs surgery for repair as soon as possible because it is becoming larger. However there are more risks when morbidly obese. I also have gallbladder stones. I'm currently at 265 and was advised to lose as much as possible to undergo surgery.bethannien wrote: »Can your surgeon or GP refer you to a dietician to assist you?
Cosigned. It would be good if you had a team who talked to each other. Rapid weight loss is a risk for gallstones, which you already have, so this should be taken under consideration by medical professionals as well.
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ShohanaABencomo wrote: »Thank you everyone. I have an umbilical hernia which needs surgery for repair as soon as possible because it is becoming larger. However there are more risks when morbidly obese. I also have gallbladder stones. I'm currently at 265 and was advised to lose as much as possible to undergo surgery.
Great advice provided. Work with you md to get the weight off. You can do this!0
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