Runners! My first race is coming up in 6 weeks! Should I go for the 10k or half marathon?!
blueeyez939
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I have been running for a couple months now and want to try running in a "real" race just to see if I enjoy it and to see how my time compares to other women my age. I know I'm not gonna be anywhere near the front of the pack no matter which race I choose.... Lol but I want to pick the one that will have the best chance of me at least not coming in last! So, what do y'all think? I know there is a huge difference between 6.2 and 13 miles.... Lol but when I look at the times of women who ran the same race the last couple years, it seams like the half marathon has a lot more participants and a lot more times that are in the range of my goals where the 10k seemed to be a smaller group and even the slowest times would be pretty tough for me to keep up with.... I just can't decide and with $50 entry fees, I wanna make the best choice! Oh, one other thing! I have never ran more than probably 5 miles at a time, but I don't have any injuries or any body limitations. I have been reading up a lot and read that people with low resting heart rates tend to be better at endurance events rather than speed events, and I happen to have a extremely low heart rate, 30's while sleeping 50's while awake more of the time. So, that's another thing that makes me wonder if I wouldn't be better off going for the half marathon rather than the 10k Would love some opinion :-) thanks!
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Going from 5 miles to 13 in 6 weeks is not reasonable. Your risk of injury would be high.
I seriously would not be concerned about finishing last. Run and have fun.11 -
Go for the 10K - your first race should usually be shorter than your current training distance, as your race inexperience might lead you to struggling with pacing, crowding, etc.
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Plan the race. Race the plan.
6 weeks from your planned race date is not enough time to change your game plan to a longer distance. Not sure what your weekly mileage is currently, but for the half-marathon distance your weekly mileage should be somewhere between 25 - 30 miles.
You'll have a much better racing experience if you stick with the 10k for which you've trained. Enjoy your race! Afterwards, you can start planning and training for a half.
Good luck!4 -
Trying to ramp up to HM distances from 5 miles in 6 weeks is an injury waiting to happen. Personally I'd rather run a HM than a 5K or 10K (but I also run shorter races as benchmarks) as the pacing is completely different and you should keep that distance as a goal but you need time to prepare.kcn2bluesky wrote: »Plan the race. Race the plan.
Agreed 100%!
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would you like paper cuts or apples?
I don't even understand how you can be asking this question- it doesn't make sense.
Have you been on a training plan? for a specific race?
then run that race.3 -
Totally agree with the posters above. Two months is not very long to be racing a 10k let alone a half.1
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" I have never ran more than probably 5 miles at a time, but I don't have any injuries or any body limitations."
It will be very difficult for you to get the miles you should do in just 6 weeks to perform in a Half Marathon. What has been your total running mileage for the past several weeks? For the 8 weeks prior to my first half I ran between 25 and 32 miles per week. (long runs of 10, 13, 12 & 13) Are you close?
There is no shame in finishing last. Finishers, no matter the placement, beat all non-starters.1 -
I've been running 4 months and do 10K now, furthest I've run is 9.5 miles still don't feel like a half marathon is within my grasp yet - good to be ambitious but don't push yourself too hard. I'm reflecting on the fact that I'm now suffering from achilles tendinitis so don't take running for granted either!
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you haven't run enough distance to do a HM in 6 weeks IMO, and you're focusing on all the wrong things if your goal is to beat as many people as possible in whichever race you're running.2
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Like everyone else said, if you're planning to try to run the whole distance, the 10K is really the only option.
However, if you're planning to run/walk, you could consider the half, I think (but then you're probably not going to have a middle-of-the-pack kind of time.)0 -
I don't have any injuries or body limitations either, but I won't be climbing Mt Everest next month. Ok, I'm being snarky and extreme, but see how that line of thinking doesn't make sense? Just because you're not injured doesn't mean you can pick up and do just anything.
If you haven't raced anything at all yet, why not start with a 5K? It's short-ish, sure, but you can work on your speed and get a sense of what racing is like.4 -
I'd choose the 10K for your first race, until you have more time on your feet. It's further than you've run so far. I wouldn't consider a half yet, although I know I could run/walk it, but I'd rather wait until I can safely run it. I'd say enjoy the 10K rather than possibly be miserable at the end of the half.1
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I've known women who have run a half marathon on little to no training but they paid for it after the race. In one instance there were bloody feet. Why risk injuring yourself? You're should be in a good position for the 10K in six weeks, stick to that and don't worry about where you finish. Keep in mind the 10% rule as you're increasing mileage during training: never increase mileage from one week to the next by more than 10%.
Work out a half marathon plan and see when you'll be ready for one according to the plan then find a half marathon around that timeframe and go for it. For example, I'm regularly running 5 miles 3 times per week with another 6 to 7 mile run on the weekend. My training plan has me stepping up mileage until a half marathon that is planned for January. If you aren't running as much as I am now, then trying for a half marathon sooner than that is risky.0 -
If you do not have the miles logged for a HM certainly do NOT attempt an HM for your first race. All I can say is that common sense in making this decision is lacking (sorry)..
Gosh I hope you have an adequate training plan. If you go with HM I sure hope you have time for some moderate last week taper, you gonna need it.
IMHO your very first race ever, should be to just finish. So go luck with your decision.. curious what ya decide to do?0 -
Go for the 10K and don't worry about placement. What's wrong with being last? Does this make something wrong with the person who is last? I was last in my first 5K. Way last. This year I ran it in half the time of 2 years ago. How cool is that?!4
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I doubt you'll get injured, but running very much longer than you are prepared for can produce a very special kind of suffering. Definitely the 10k.0
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Given that you haven't yet completed a 10Km training run this shouldn't even be a question.
Doubling your volume to reach a 10 mile run in four weeks, two weeks prior to the race, gives you a pretty high injury risk and quite probably an utterly miserable race experience.
To put that in context, before my first HM I'd done two ten milers and a thirteen miler in the month before the race. Before my first 10K I was running twelve to thirteen a couple of times per week and had run two ten milers in the training plan, although not particularly close to the race.
Run the 10K. If you come last it means someone else didn't, no more than that...0 -
@blueeyez939 Did we sufficiently scare you off from attempting the half-marathon? Hopefully you decide to stick with the 10k.
I hope you will return to the thread after your race and tell us about your experience! Running and racing is such great fun and a wonderful motivator! I always finish each race mentally (if not physically lol) ready for the next one!
Good luck to you!2 -
Scared off, to say the least..... Lol I understand that many of you don't understand my logic, think that I have no common sense, and think I'm racing for the wrong reasons, and that's fine..... I am racing for my own set of reasons, one of which is the satisfaction of being better than someone else at something. Is that not the heart of just about all true competitors to begin with? I understand a passion for what you do is the first key, but passion alone won't get you first place, passion plus will power does though. I don't know, I'm certainly not here to get anyone fired up or on a rant. But I'm a competitive person, when I am participating is something where there is a winner and a looser, I prefer to be the winner lol I don't see anything wrong with that. Not saying there is "something wrong" with being last either, it's just not for me, I refuse to be last at anything that is a reflection of my effort. Maybe I have never ran a race before, but I have participated is sports for years and I know the satisfaction of winning and the discouragement of getting your butt whooped... It's all part of the game, no matter what your game. And I agree, even in defeat you have to come out ready to do better next time. But, Im very strong willed and enjoy pushing myself, so I didn't think it was unreasonable to think I would be better off walk/running the whole half marathon and likely still end up getting a better position then exhausting myself to be lucky if I'm in the last 10% of the 10k. But, everyone sees things differently and I appreciate everyone telling me your honest thoughts0
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blueeyez939 wrote: »Scared off, to say the least..... Lol I understand that many of you don't understand my logic, think that I have no common sense, and think I'm racing for the wrong reasons, and that's fine..... I am racing for my own set of reasons, one of which is the satisfaction of being better than someone else at something. Is that not the heart of just about all true competitors to begin with? I understand a passion for what you do is the first key, but passion alone won't get you first place, passion plus will power does though. I don't know, I'm certainly not here to get anyone fired up or on a rant. But I'm a competitive person, when I am participating is something where there is a winner and a looser, I prefer to be the winner lol I don't see anything wrong with that. Not saying there is "something wrong" with being last either, it's just not for me, I refuse to be last at anything that is a reflection of my effort. Maybe I have never ran a race before, but I have participated is sports for years and I know the satisfaction of winning and the discouragement of getting your butt whooped... It's all part of the game, no matter what your game. And I agree, even in defeat you have to come out ready to do better next time. But, Im very strong willed and enjoy pushing myself, so I didn't think it was unreasonable to think I would be better off walk/running the whole half marathon and likely still end up getting a better position then exhausting myself to be lucky if I'm in the last 10% of the 10k. But, everyone sees things differently and I appreciate everyone telling me your honest thoughts
i agree, with that attitude you should totally try and win the half marathon... good luck!5 -
Thank you! It is encouraging to know at least SOMEONE gets my way of thinking.... Lol I've always been a sort of black sheep in this world, so it's nothing new for me to kinda go against the grain of everyone else's way of thinking.... But nice to know I'm not alone out there :-P0
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blueeyez939: Very few people, if anyone, enter a Half Marathon without proper training. Very few people, if any, enter a Half Marathon on a whim or a bet or peer pressure from co-workers or associates. Everyone, probably, who enters a Half Marathon has gone through a training plan to prepare for that Half Marathon. If you want to be one of those very few, knock your socks off and go for it. Most here recommend against it for good reason. It is a long way to go. If you are not properly trained, if you have not covered sufficient miles in training, the race could be a very unpleasant experience. Most of us here, don't want you to go through that.
I personally, trained for my September 25 Half Marathon since July 4 with the last nine weeks thereof putting in weekly miles of 25-32 and weekly long runs of 10,12,13,12 & 13 miles. That being said I finished, ahead of my goal time but, 186 of 245 overall, 122 of 152 in my gender group and 7 of 9 in my age/gender group.
In my opinion, you are more likely to place poorly, in the half Marathon, going in ill trained, than your chances are in the 10K. If your goal is to place well, the 10K would be your better bet. But, you do what you think is best.2 -
blueeyez939 wrote: »Scared off, to say the least..... Lol I understand that many of you don't understand my logic, think that I have no common sense, and think I'm racing for the wrong reasons, and that's fine..... I am racing for my own set of reasons, one of which is the satisfaction of being better than someone else at something. Is that not the heart of just about all true competitors to begin with? I understand a passion for what you do is the first key, but passion alone won't get you first place, passion plus will power does though. I don't know, I'm certainly not here to get anyone fired up or on a rant. But I'm a competitive person, when I am participating is something where there is a winner and a looser, I prefer to be the winner lol I don't see anything wrong with that. Not saying there is "something wrong" with being last either, it's just not for me, I refuse to be last at anything that is a reflection of my effort. Maybe I have never ran a race before, but I have participated is sports for years and I know the satisfaction of winning and the discouragement of getting your butt whooped... It's all part of the game, no matter what your game. And I agree, even in defeat you have to come out ready to do better next time. But, Im very strong willed and enjoy pushing myself, so I didn't think it was unreasonable to think I would be better off walk/running the whole half marathon and likely still end up getting a better position then exhausting myself to be lucky if I'm in the last 10% of the 10k. But, everyone sees things differently and I appreciate everyone telling me your honest thoughts
Running 2 months, haven't run farther than 5 miles, want to be competitive in a half-marathon in 6 weeks ...........what could possibly go wrong?
It's clear that you were hoping for a "rah, rah, you go girl" type of response rather than actual feedback from experienced runners. Good luck!7 -
A half marathon is a different beast than a 10K.
However, if you are determined then at LEAST run at least 10 miles before the race.
The 10th mile is a killer.
Good luck.1 -
I get the whole competitive bit. I'm the same way and used to enjoy winning road races or my age group. I struggle to accept that at 60 and starting over with my running using a C25k program that I can't just go cruise like I did in years past. That being said, to be competitive you need to be prepared. You need a proper aerobic base, over distance for the race, and speed/interval training for a good performance. If you aren't at this level yet, why not work towards it? If you think you'd be in the bottom 10% of a 10k race and don't like it, then build your running in the months ahead. You don't have to run this race in 6 weeks.
For myself, I'm not running a race until January and I'm accepting of the fact that I'm not going to be competitive in my age group. I'm using the race as a baseline...just to see what I can do after 4 months of running. From there I will build my long runs and add speed work as appropriate. Its a process and I intend to do it properly rather than risk injury and fatigue. You can do the same.
However, if you're determined to compete in the half just because you think you won't be in the bottom, then just do it and hope for the best. For me there would be no thrill in out walking other participants. So what? My goal is always, first and foremost, to run the entire race. If you're as competitive as you say, it's difficult to understand why you don't woman up to reality and run your best 5 or 10k...and accept the results.0 -
It sounds like you got your heart set on the half marathon, so go for it. Good luck!0
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BrianSharpe wrote: »blueeyez939 wrote: »Scared off, to say the least..... Lol I understand that many of you don't understand my logic, think that I have no common sense, and think I'm racing for the wrong reasons, and that's fine..... I am racing for my own set of reasons, one of which is the satisfaction of being better than someone else at something. Is that not the heart of just about all true competitors to begin with? I understand a passion for what you do is the first key, but passion alone won't get you first place, passion plus will power does though. I don't know, I'm certainly not here to get anyone fired up or on a rant. But I'm a competitive person, when I am participating is something where there is a winner and a looser, I prefer to be the winner lol I don't see anything wrong with that. Not saying there is "something wrong" with being last either, it's just not for me, I refuse to be last at anything that is a reflection of my effort. Maybe I have never ran a race before, but I have participated is sports for years and I know the satisfaction of winning and the discouragement of getting your butt whooped... It's all part of the game, no matter what your game. And I agree, even in defeat you have to come out ready to do better next time. But, Im very strong willed and enjoy pushing myself, so I didn't think it was unreasonable to think I would be better off walk/running the whole half marathon and likely still end up getting a better position then exhausting myself to be lucky if I'm in the last 10% of the 10k. But, everyone sees things differently and I appreciate everyone telling me your honest thoughts
Running 2 months, haven't run farther than 5 miles, want to be competitive in a half-marathon in 6 weeks ...........what could possibly go wrong?
DNF seems quite likely to me!4 -
Winners prepare. They spend months preparing their body for a single race. They don't just decide one day to run 13.1 miles.6
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blueeyez939 wrote: »Thank you! It is encouraging to know at least SOMEONE gets my way of thinking.... Lol I've always been a sort of black sheep in this world, so it's nothing new for me to kinda go against the grain of everyone else's way of thinking.... But nice to know I'm not alone out there :-P
I think you might want to go back and read that post again...lol.
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TavistockToad wrote: »blueeyez939 wrote: »Scared off, to say the least..... Lol I understand that many of you don't understand my logic, think that I have no common sense, and think I'm racing for the wrong reasons, and that's fine..... I am racing for my own set of reasons, one of which is the satisfaction of being better than someone else at something. Is that not the heart of just about all true competitors to begin with? I understand a passion for what you do is the first key, but passion alone won't get you first place, passion plus will power does though. I don't know, I'm certainly not here to get anyone fired up or on a rant. But I'm a competitive person, when I am participating is something where there is a winner and a looser, I prefer to be the winner lol I don't see anything wrong with that. Not saying there is "something wrong" with being last either, it's just not for me, I refuse to be last at anything that is a reflection of my effort. Maybe I have never ran a race before, but I have participated is sports for years and I know the satisfaction of winning and the discouragement of getting your butt whooped... It's all part of the game, no matter what your game. And I agree, even in defeat you have to come out ready to do better next time. But, Im very strong willed and enjoy pushing myself, so I didn't think it was unreasonable to think I would be better off walk/running the whole half marathon and likely still end up getting a better position then exhausting myself to be lucky if I'm in the last 10% of the 10k. But, everyone sees things differently and I appreciate everyone telling me your honest thoughts
i agree, with that attitude you should totally try and win the half marathon... good luck!blueeyez939 wrote: »Thank you! It is encouraging to know at least SOMEONE gets my way of thinking.... Lol I've always been a sort of black sheep in this world, so it's nothing new for me to kinda go against the grain of everyone else's way of thinking.... But nice to know I'm not alone out there :-P
I think you might want to go back and read that post again...lol.
Sarcasm is often difficult to perceive in type written text, except in this case. ;- )4
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