Fruit sugar?

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  • McKayMachina
    McKayMachina Posts: 2,670 Member
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    http://www.amsa.org/healingthehealer/GlycemicIndex.pdf

    I refer to chose fruits that have a low glycemic index, and eat the others in moderate.....although fruit sugar is better than processed sugar, too much of any sugar can be a bad thing.

    There's your absolutely perfect (non-rude) answer.

    Well said. ;)
  • heather62803
    heather62803 Posts: 266 Member
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    I agree check the Glycemic index, while all fruit is natural and healthy - some choices are better than other for spikes in blood sugar. I have recently started looking into the glycemic index and I was very surprised at what I found!
  • McKayMachina
    McKayMachina Posts: 2,670 Member
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    Alton Brown? Really? Lol.

    Overweight non-scientists on a free message board? Really? Lol.

    Good information is good information. And I'm more inclined to believe a TV host whose job is to source academic information and study data then translate it for the layperson via food TV than random people on the internet. That's why I sourced someone else instead of just coming in here spouting "FRUIT SUGAR IS HEALTHY!!!1!11shift! LOL".

    :laugh:

    Bring it on.
  • dominionite
    dominionite Posts: 20 Member
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    my opinion, sugar is sugar!
    Is a peach better for you than a chocolate bar? Yes!
    Are they both sources of sugar? Yes

    If you are someone who HAS to watch their sugar, then you have to watch all the sources of sugar.

    I am newly allergic to fructose which means no more fruit or sweet veggies for me, so I envy you your indulgence.
    Fruit was how i calmed my sweet tooth without cheating; so you have your fruit and enjoy it; just don't over do it everyday.

    (( unless you're hypcglycemic or diabetic or something, in which case you should know more than we do ))
  • nikkidee1983
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    The weight loss physician I have gotten information from says fruit is the good type of carbs you want to take in. My mother's diabetic specialist has warned about the amounts of sugar in fruits and to be cautious of them, especially bananas and grapes which are higher in sugars than most other fruits. I hope this helps.
  • lausa22
    lausa22 Posts: 467 Member
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    Thanks for all the opinions :) I think it's just everything in moderation and too much sugar, in any form, is bad really. But we'd all rather eat fruit than chocolate!
    As long as I have around 2 portions of fruit a day, I should be fine :)
  • mgmlap
    mgmlap Posts: 1,377 Member
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    I think its something that you need to ask your doctor. Since each of us has different issues..answers on fruit sugars will vary. For myself..I am to stay away from bananas, strawberries, and watermelon...but other fruits are ok..
  • TK421NotAtPost
    TK421NotAtPost Posts: 512 Member
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    A LOT of people are going to come in here and say not to worry about it. They're wrong and haven't researched at all. They're just regurgitating what they think sounds reasonable.

    It's smart to track your sugar. Here's why:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/McKayMachina/view/you-re-not-fat-because-of-fat-106837

    I will not read your link, and I find what you said to be very offensive and RUDE. Really? Because I don't worry about fruit I'm wrong and haven't researched it at all?! Wow.

    Right there with you! It was RUDE!

    I agree! there were a lot of better ways to phrase that without being rude.

    Okay, so think I'm rude. But go find accurate information about sugar anyway. Forget my link. Who cares?

    Just make sure you recognize that "fruit sugar" is fructose and the body responds to fructose in a very specific way via creating and fueling fat cells.

    Maybe it was "rude". Whatever. But it was right.

    WOW, talk about someone who hasn't done their research. Rude or whatever..the bottom line is that you're wrong.

    Here are a few things you obviously don't understand...

    #1. It would take an absurd amount of fruit to provide enough fructose to the diet to cause problems.

    #2. The liver can generally handle approximately 50 grams of fructose or so before you start to see conversion to triglycerides or other negatives.

    #3. While that intake level might be easily achievable by someone consuming a lot of sugary soda, an average piece of fruit is roughly 7% fructose (e.g. 7 grams fructose per 100 grams of fruit). Well, that is a lot of fruit.

    You do the math...
  • TK421NotAtPost
    TK421NotAtPost Posts: 512 Member
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    Also, funny thing about liver glycogen. When it is emptied, your body sends signals to the brain that can stimulate hunger. Replenishing liver glycogen tends to make people feel fuller. Studies on pubmed have shown that subjects consuming a moderate amount of fruit in their weight loss diet often report feeling much less hungry. (If you aren't making the connnection, fruit helps replenish liver glycogen)

    Oh yeah, and let's not forget all the other benefits to eating fruit (whole fruit... not fruit juice), like fiber and nutrients as well as the lack of insulinogenic response from consuming fructose.
  • McKayMachina
    McKayMachina Posts: 2,670 Member
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    WOW, talk about someone who hasn't done their research. Rude or whatever..the bottom line is that you're wrong.

    Here are a few things you obviously don't understand...

    #1. It would take an absurd amount of fruit to provide enough fructose to the diet to cause problems.

    #2. The liver can generally handle approximately 50 grams of fructose or so before you start to see conversion to triglycerides or other negatives.

    #3. While that intake level might be easily achievable by someone consuming a lot of sugary soda, an average piece of fruit is roughly 7% fructose (e.g. 7 grams fructose per 100 grams of fruit). Well, that is a lot of fruit.

    You do the math...

    Look, lady. Chill. :laugh:

    It sounds like you know what you're talking about. So thanks for the info! :)

    My only point was that it DOES make sense to track your sugars, including fruits. There are a lot of people who get on the board who have been told a bunch of crud by companies like Weight Watchers who used to claim fruits are "free" and "don't count" and all these other unregulated "nutritionists" (careful, not a protected term! "Dietician" is what you're looking for) spouting theory.

    More information = woohoo! :drinker:

    Now, you wanna keep picking on me? Go for it. :laugh:
  • TheBraveryLover
    TheBraveryLover Posts: 1,217 Member
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    I don't know but I personally, count sugar from fruit. I'll have no more than 1serving (today I had a half) a day, unless the fruit is low in sugar (i.e. berries).
  • taem
    taem Posts: 495 Member
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    The weight loss physician I have gotten information from says fruit is the good type of carbs you want to take in. My mother's diabetic specialist has warned about the amounts of sugar in fruits and to be cautious of them, especially bananas and grapes which are higher in sugars than most other fruits. I hope this helps.

    Actually, on the glycemic index, watermelon and pineapples are the worst for a diabetic. Please read Dr. Barnard's book on reversing diabetes without medication.

    As for sugar, there are different types of sugar: glucose, sucrose, fructose, high fructose corn syrup but i understand what you mean by going over in sugar.

    I am a type 2 diabetic and yesterday, I had a couple of bananas, 4 ears of corn on the cob and a nectarine. My blood sugar this morning was 124 without medication. That is a pre-diabetic level for those that don't know.

    Do the research yourself from reputable sources that have nothing to sell you and who do not work for special interest groups and you'll get your own answer.
  • aprilfiege
    aprilfiege Posts: 28
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    In my opinion, good sugar is like good fat ... You could eat 1 ounce of an avocado and that would equal and entire Big Mac's fat....Such as eating a ton of fruit compared to a pint of Ben and Jerry's ice cream's sugar ... It may seem like a lot of "fat" or "sugar" but there is a difference between good fats and good sugars vs bad fats and bad sugars... of course everything in moderation but fruit sugar is not bad for you and your body actually knows what to do with it :-)
  • RokMomma79
    RokMomma79 Posts: 21 Member
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    I agree check the Glycemic index, while all fruit is natural and healthy - some choices are better than other for spikes in blood sugar. I have recently started looking into the glycemic index and I was very surprised at what I found!

    I also live by the GI rules. It's fact and science. I also toute the China Study for amazing scientific info on foods and what they can do and for your body. Its a must read for anyone who truly wants to know the truth about diet and health
  • ct320
    ct320 Posts: 89 Member
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    what a contraversial subject:laugh:

    did u also know some fruits are actually minus calorie content (meaning they take more calories to digest than they contain) maybe an idea for people who do count sugar in fruit to look them up might be helpful to know which these are :smile:
  • SusanRN2b
    SusanRN2b Posts: 106 Member
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    what a contraversial subject:laugh:

    did u also know some fruits are actually minus calorie content (meaning they take more calories to digest than they contain) maybe an idea for people who do count sugar in fruit to look them up might be helpful to know which these are :smile:

    Controversial is right! Carbs vs Fat & Protein is the equivalent of talking about abortion, politics, and religion around here. People go nuts. :noway:
  • AnuMe901
    AnuMe901 Posts: 44
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    The benefits of fruit far outweigh the sugar content. With those sugars, you are getting fiber (especially with watermelon; eat all of that you want to decrease bloating) and all the nutrients the fruit provides.

    So glad to read this. I eat watermelon EVERYDAY! :)
  • jellybaby84
    jellybaby84 Posts: 583 Member
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    I find this topic so worrying. I eat a lot of fruit. I have no idea what to replace it with if I am over on sugar.

    The body needs 5+ portions of fruit and veg a day if most sources are to be believed. I'm not a big veg lover at all, other than carrots which aren't very low in sugar either.

    I tend to go by the premise that if I'm going to be eating fewer than 1200 calories a day I shouldn't be able to gain weight, even if I do eat a lot of fruit.
  • lloydrt
    lloydrt Posts: 1,121 Member
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    ever know anyone to become morbidly obese because he or she ate too many strawberries?

    I dont know the facts, but strawberries/blueberries and fruit really kicked off my weight loss last year, esp in the summer, along with canteloupe and other fruits and berries

    again, Im not a expert, just knew instead of eating a whole half gal of ice cream, or 5 candy bars, I reached for fruit and really really enjoyed it.........so much that it really had a huge influence in dropping weight in a fairly quick manner

    I now have about 60 - 80 grams of it a day and am losing...........again, were are all built differently , but for me, fruit saved me...........Lloyd
  • Richard170
    Richard170 Posts: 37
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    I think we should not conflate disagreement with rudeness nor weight loss with healthy eating. It is certainly possible to drop pounds while eating nothing but garbage foods and it is also easy to put on weight while eating very healthy foods.

    I try to keep my sugar intake low but all of my sugar comes from fruits and I don't eat fruit for the sugar.

    What is healthy eating? That is a very complex question with no definitive answers. On line "research"? It is not that hard to source "experts" for almost any desired viewpoint. As I learn more about nutrition I try very hard not to just look for viewpoints that reinforce what I want to believe about nutrition. Nutrition should be a matter of science, and not of opinion, but many interesting questions have never been explored experimentally.

    My doctor wrote a 200 page book on weight loss that he left in the clinic's waiting area. On the front of each page it had the words "Eat Less" and on the back of each page it had the words "Exercise More". Energy balance is by far the most important factor in healthy eating. Get this right, and I think the rest will largely take care of itself. Get this wrong, and it really does not matter how much fruit I eat or don't eat.