October (2016) Running Challenge

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  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited October 2016
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    @MNLittleFinn I am partial to Matt Fitzgerald. So, I'm curious what is his long run for marathon training? I used Galloway to start with, then went into base building and haven't revisited the training plans, (which thanks to @Stoshew71) I can draft my own.

    I'd guess that Fitzgerald's plan builds endurance with the minimum miles as an injury prevention. But I can see the point to a18-20 miles as a long run for the first marathon goal.

    Anyhow, good luck @MNLittleFinn, I hope you make it through marathon training strong and uninjured!
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
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    @Elise4270 long runs for the first 2 plans top out at 18 miles. I was just curious because, while the 6,2 mile gap between most plans' longest run and a full is pretty big, an 8.2 mile gap seems HUGE....despite only being a 2 mile difference.

    I mainly got the book for the HR and 80/20 split data....the training plans were just a bonus for some fun....but I guess I started a decent discussion because of them....
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited October 2016
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    @Elise4270 long runs for the first 2 plans top out at 18 miles. I was just curious because, while the 6,2 mile gap between most plans' longest run and a full is pretty big, an 8.2 mile gap seems HUGE....despite only being a 2 mile difference.

    I mainly got the book for the HR and 80/20 split data....the training plans were just a bonus for some fun....but I guess I started a decent discussion because of them....

    I've not run the full and don't really plan on one, but I'd think for my first I'd be okay with the 18 slow miles. I left off doing 7-9 miles for a long run (kinda, not really since I was building) and it was plenty to keep me half ready. But I am not an authority. Nor have the experience. Yeild to the experts here.

    I'm interested in the 80/20 thing. But I'll be back to base building. Guess you can still run your base building miles at this pace split?

    Definitely a good conversation to iron out the plans and views.

    I have a few of MF's books. I love them. I don't abide by them or cook out of 'em much anymore.... But they've been helpful. And I use his dqs app :blush: sorry @Stoshew71 , don't think of me as a traitor. Maybe when I get faster and stronger I'll branch out and study others philosophies :smiley:. I'd be down if Lauren Fleshman put something together!
  • vandinem
    vandinem Posts: 550 Member
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    Date     Miles      MTD
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    Oct  1     6.2      6.2 
    Oct  2     6.5     12.7 
    Oct  4     4.3     17.0 
    Oct  5     4.3T    21.3 
    Oct  8    10.1     31.4 
    Oct  9     4.3T    35.7 
    Oct 12     4.6T    40.3
    Oct 13     5.2T    45.5
    

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  • luluinca
    luluinca Posts: 2,899 Member
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    So I've been walking with my daughter in law this week who is here with our grandson. We walk fast but I'd still rather run so yesterday I did both, a 3 mile walk in the AM and a 3.1 mile run in the PM. This morning we walked again........4 miles this time. So about 10 miles in 24 hours and I hate to say it but my feet hurt a little and so do my legs, which I know will be fine tomorrow. I couldn't have run tonight I don't think, at least not very far. It sucks to be old and a new runner all at the same time.

    Tomorrow I'm doing a weight lifting session at the gym and I may try to put in at least a couple of running miles in the evening in order to keep my 4 days a week rule going. Saturday is an adventure day with my grandson at the Aquarium of the Pacific and a lot of walking I'm sure.

    I'm not counting the walks in my total for the month but I do think the last two days of pretty fast walking helped my stamina and hurt my feet.....LOL

    10/01 – Rest Day
    10/02 – 3.6 mile horse trail run with dog – AVG HR 143, High 159 on hills
    10/03 – Rest Day
    10/04 – 2.1 mile horse trail run with dog – testing out the new Garmin
    10/05 – 3.31 miles horse trail run with dog – looks like Garmin is about 7-8 bbm higher than my Polar
    10/06 – 95 min strength training
    10/07 – 3.6 miles horse trail run with the dog – AVG HR 146
    10/08 – Rest Day
    10/09 – 4.52 miles at the park – longest run yet – AVG HR 147
    10/10 – Another Rest Day……ugggghhhh
    10/11 – 3.1 miles horse trail run – Fastest 5K yet – AVG HR 147
    10/12 – 3.1 miles horse trail run plus a 3 mile walk this morning
    10/13 – 4 mile walk along the river trail
  • Hoveringsock
    Hoveringsock Posts: 10 Member
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    I'm on pace.

    Oct 1 - 6
    Oct 2 - 1
    Oct 3 - 0
    Oct 4 - 5
    Oct 5 - 0
    Oct 6 - 5.64
    Oct 7 - 2.5
    Oct 8 - 0
    Oct 9 - 7
    Oct 10 - 0
    Oct 11 - 5
    Oct 12 - 2
    Oct 13 - 5.58

    Total - 39.72/80
  • untermrad
    untermrad Posts: 24 Member
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    Yesterday, easy running + hills (5 miles)
    Today 6.7 miles, mix of tempo and easy + strides.

    I've used Strava's premium training plans before, but I don't know that I followed them correctly. I'm trying to read up on established training workout methods (I've been reading Jack Daniels' Running Formula book) and how to best benefit from workouts instead of just treating every run like a race, more or less.

    Also, awesome race reports @Ohhim and @AdrianChr92

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    10/1 6.2 (6.2 MTD)
    10/5 6.2 (12.4 MTD)
    10/9 10.0 (22.4 MTD)
    10/11 6.2 (28.6 MTD) (completely miscalculated in previous post, oops)
    10/12 5 (33.6 MTD)
    10/13 6.7 (40.3 MTD)
    Upcoming races:
    9/10 - Louisville Pure Tap 5k 25:03
    10/1 - Norton Sports Health Great Pumpkin 10k 51:12
    10/22 - Urban Bourbon Half Marathon
    11/24 - Hungry Turkey 5k
  • kristinegift
    kristinegift Posts: 2,406 Member
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    10/1: 20 miles
    10/2: 4.6 miles (am), 5.4 miles (pm)
    10/3: 6 miles with the Coffee Crew
    10/4: 5 miles (am), 10 miles (pm)
    10/5: 5 miles
    10/6: 3.5 miles
    10/7: 9.5 miles
    10/8: 6 miles with a 5k in the middle
    10/9: 4 miles
    10/10: Oh my god finally a rest day
    10/11: 10 miles
    10/12: 6 miles (am), 4.2 miles (pm)
    10/13: 8 miles (am), 6.4 miles with the Thursday crew

    Nice group run tonight! Lots of headlamps and reflective vests and smiles :) And burgers and beer afterward which always puts a cherry on top!

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    Upcoming Races:
    10/8: Coe College Homecoming 5k: 21:26
    10/16: Superhero Halloween Half Marathon (Goal: 1:38 or better)
    11/20: Philadelphia Marathon (Goal: 3:30 or better)
    3/26/17: Philly Love Run HM
    5/14/17: Delaware Marathon Running Festival HM


  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
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    Elise4270 wrote: »
    I saw a picture of Lauren Fleshman a day or two after she did the catwalk shoot, she was lean! And she has that swollen belly, she mentioned how her weight fluctuates. Ill see if I can dig it up after some coffee, my bed has me hostage. http://asklaurenfleshman.com/2013/11/keeping-it-real/

    Wow, that's awesome! I know most photos in the media are shopped, but I still love it when real photos are posted in juxtaposition.

    Makes me not doubt myself so much when I pull in my stomach looking in the mirror! :smiley: The elites do it too!
  • Elise4270
    Elise4270 Posts: 8,375 Member
    edited October 2016
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    Orphia wrote: »
    Elise4270 wrote: »
    I saw a picture of Lauren Fleshman a day or two after she did the catwalk shoot, she was lean! And she has that swollen belly, she mentioned how her weight fluctuates. Ill see if I can dig it up after some coffee, my bed has me hostage. http://asklaurenfleshman.com/2013/11/keeping-it-real/

    Wow, that's awesome! I know most photos in the media are shopped, but I still love it when real photos are posted in juxtaposition.

    Makes me not doubt myself so much when I pull in my stomach looking in the mirror! :smiley: The elites do it too!

    Haha! Ya I'm ocd about my stomach. I think I have to look at it every time I'm in the bathroom, maybe if I eat too much too. I did have a tummy tuck so that probably caused it. I'm vain, but did the tt to fix diastasis recti and help regain some core strength (I was told it caused my back problems that were hip/rear, not spinal). So I opted for a tt not a double fusion in my lower back. Which turned out to be a good call.

    Glad I could help keep it real for the girls!
  • juliet3455
    juliet3455 Posts: 3,015 Member
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    @Stoshew71 I'm still reading the book, so I haven't seen why he doesn't have a 20 mile run in the plan. Funny part is, the level 2 plan is for people who have some experience running marathons, yet there's no 20 miler.

    A friend from my Little Local club who has a sub 3 hr marathon only does 30km = 18.6 miles as his long run and I don't remember him doing a large number of them. Will have to ask him what plan he uses. Since I was not trying to train for a Marathon I was not training with him so may ( probably ) missed some of the scheduled runs they had planned. His plan must be good as he dragged one of our Ladies to a BQ at the Kelowna Marathon last week.

    Unless I have a change of employment training for a marathon would be very hard as I do to many road trips for work. Spent 6 hrs driving today - missed Adult swim club and a planned Trail run along the RR Tracks. I try to keep myself in HM Condition but my niggedly calf and work schedule has kept me on low km for a while.
  • HonuNui
    HonuNui Posts: 1,464 Member
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    October goal...run to earn wine and ice cream

    10/1: core/strength training, 2 mile run and 20 minutes of fancy footwork trying to herd the neighbor's stray cow out of our yard
    10/2 rest
    10/3 slug...never got out of my nightgown and played computer games (it was FABULOUS!)
    10/4 4.10
    10/5 3.11
    10/6 core/strength training
    10/7 rest
    10/8 3.25
    10/9 6.48
    10/10 3.18
    10/11 Snorkel 3 hours
    10/12 4.28
    10/13 2.41


    Total 28.81

    @shanaber sorry you are sidelined, but Hobbes will be happy to know you will keep him active.

    Upcoming races:
    Las Vegas RocknRoll Half 11/13/16

    Ticker is my goal for 2016 and accumulation to date:
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  • mom3over40
    mom3over40 Posts: 253 Member
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    Date    Miles   Total
    10/01    3.1    3.1
           + Strength
    10/02    6.4    9.5
    10/03    Rest
    10/04    Strength
    10/05    4.0    13.5
    10/06    3.2    16.7
    10/07    Strength
    10/08    3.3    20.0
    10/09    7.0    27.0
    10/10    Rest
    10/11    3.2    30.2 
           + Strength
    10/12    Rest
    10/13    5.0   35.2 <- Total So Far
    

    Probably the "darkest" run I had. But I didn't want to miss it as I knew I wouldn't have another time to do it before the planned long run on Sunday...

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  • LeelooX2014
    LeelooX2014 Posts: 157 Member
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    October running


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    10/01: day off
    10/02: 3.5
    10/03: 3.5
    10/04: day off
    10/05: 3.5
    10/06: 3.5
    10/07: day off
    10/08: 3.5
    10/09: day off (major rain)
    10/10: 3.5
    10/11: day off
    10/12: 3.5
    10/13: 3.5

    Total: 28
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
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    01 October – 10.6 km including parkrun
    03 October – 12.4 km
    04 October – 10 km
    05 October – 10.2 km
    06 October – 10 km
    08 October – 10.5 km including parkrun
    09 October – 13.6 km first try at trail running
    10 October – 10.9 km
    11 October – 10 km
    12 October – 6.7 km
    13 October – 9.3 km

    Goal: 160 km (100 miles)
    Total: 114.2 km

    You might be pleased to know I had a day off from running today.

    Just walking and Body Balance. Feeling good!
  • jodilynnsanders5104
    jodilynnsanders5104 Posts: 89 Member
    edited October 2016
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    Oct 1: 15km long run day
    Oct 2: 0km running, active recovery day, 6.62km brisk walk.
    Oct 3: 12.06km...2km run on coffee break in morning, 6.08km long hill repeats at lunch, long, 4.01km treadmill run with hill intervals after work, followed by 30 min strength training
    Oct 4: 90 minutes skating (45 min practice stake during the day, 45 min refereeing girls hockey at night)
    Oct 5: 5km progression run before work, 3km base run at lunch.
    Oct 6: 3.6 km hilly trail run at lunch, 5km tempo run on treadmill after work, 30 min strength training.
    Oct 7: REST DAY
    Oct 8: 16.7 km long run. Forgot my hydration bottles. First run without fluids. Had a couple extra gummies for fuel. Glad I was well hydrated before I started.
    Oct 9: REST DAY
    Oct 10: 7.65 km recovery run including 25 minutes of running drills
    Oct 11: 6.96 km tempo run. First 5km was a PB 31:30. 30 minutes strength training.
    Oct 12: 0km running, cross train day. 35 minutes on recumbent bike, 30 min brisk walk.
    Oct 13: 6.67 km, hill intervals on treadmill. 30 minutes strength training.

    Upcoming races:

    Awesome Virtual Events 100 mile (160km) October challenge.
    November 6th: Hamilton Road2Hope HM

    I'm on track for my monthly running goal. Tomorrow is my long run day. Have to do my longest run 3 weeks before my HM rather than 2 as next weekend I'm refereeing 8 hockey games in one day (7 hours of skating). That tends to leave me quite drained and I figure should balance out that my longest run will be 3 weeks out.

    I think I was kind of crazy signing up for the October 100 mile challenge through Awesome Virtual Events, but the medal looks so friggin cool, I had to join. I've upped my mileage maybe more than I should have, but I needed to give myself some breathing room for a taper at the end of the month.

    Ran hill intervals last night. My hip is bothering me a bit now. I've had a tight hip for years and am trying to loosen the flexors and strengthen my gluteus. But it really didn't like the hill intervals. Haven't had an issue with the hill work outs so far, but I may have been trying to do them too fast last night.

    Anyway that's today's update. Happy
  • MNLittleFinn
    MNLittleFinn Posts: 4,271 Member
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    10/1- 4.04 miles
    10/2- Rest/Travel day
    10/3- 3.47
    10/4- 5.03
    10/5- 3.0
    10/6- 5.0
    10/7- 4.4
    10/8- 7.4
    10/9- REST- Grumble Grumble Grumble
    10/10- 5.22
    10/11- 4.02
    10/12- 3.01
    10/13- 6.0
    10/14- 4.03

    Total: 54.53/70

    Today's notes: It's exceedingly rare that I feel like I had a bad run, but today was one of those days. I ran 4.03 miles with a 10:36 average pace and average HR of 151. This is all normal and OK. My great annoyance is the roughly 10 minutes I spent in z3 this morning, I just could not get my HR to settle low enough to not keep popping up there.

    This was probably due to the fact that I went up a steeper hill that I normally go down, instead of going up the gradual ascent. Still, I'm annoyed with myself about that z3 time.

    On a side note, I think I need to start lifting again. Part of the problem today, I think, is that my leg strength is down, so the hill was harder than it might have been when I was lifting more.....something to think about.