Wish I knew about this potential problem

icemom011
icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
edited December 4 in Health and Weight Loss
Apparently after you lose a lot of weight you have a risk if damaging your nerves. They used to be protected by fat, and when it's gone, they are too close to skin, exposed for potential damage. I have a palsy now, which should be temporary, keeping my fingers crossed, but still. It's no fun at all, limping around, not being able to move rhe way you used to. Driving is an issue as well, since my foot doesn't work. Ughh. And it's all from crouching down for a little too long, pinching nerve and causing nerve damage. Apparently, it's a very common problem after weight loss. Even crossing your legs at the desk can cause palsy. And if one has some underlying issues, like diabetes, their prognosis is much worse. So the lesson is, move around, be careful not to create too much pressure for too long on same area. I wash i was aware of it ahead of time, not after it happened to me. My overall loss is about 64 lbs, from 220 to 156. This disability is quite unexpected for me. Should teke about 6 weeks to go away. Hope it does, can't even imagine living like that. Sorry for the rant, hope it helps someone avoid same situation.
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  • flaminica
    flaminica Posts: 304 Member
    icemom011 wrote: »
    Apparently, it's a very common problem after weight loss.

    First I've heard of it. Got a reputable source?

  • Sara1791
    Sara1791 Posts: 760 Member
    It's my understanding that any drastic weight change, up or down, can make a person susceptible to nerve issues.
  • MommyMeggo
    MommyMeggo Posts: 1,222 Member
    I had no clue. Something doesnt sound right.
    Your nerves were protected by fat and now are too close to the skin- therefore they can be damaged easier?...from weight loss?
    Did your Dr tell you its because you lost weight?
    You have info where you found this?
  • workinonit1956
    workinonit1956 Posts: 1,043 Member
    I've never head that. I would suggest speaking to your doctor about those symptoms.
  • cross2bear
    cross2bear Posts: 1,106 Member
    I have lost over 100lbs with no such effect, and I am a pretty common person! As someone else noted, if this were true, thin people would all have some sort of nerve damage.

    It IS true that crossing your legs puts pressure on the nerves, muscles and tendons at the back of your knee, and MAY cause compression issues, but simply stopping this habit can reverse the effects unless serious damage is already done.

    I suspect that your nerve issues are caused by some other factor.
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  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    That's from my neurologist. I don't think i can post links from my phone. Try to google it,i guess. I was just as surprised. My condition called foot drop. Caused by couple of hours of gardening, crouching down and putting pressure on the nerve. I don't have anorexia, i eat really well, and i mean super healthy. I do take some supplements suggested by my doctor, that I'm a little low on, according to my blood work. I am a healthy person, this is just food for thought for those that care to listen. Dosome research, so not to end up in a similar situation.
  • MommyMeggo
    MommyMeggo Posts: 1,222 Member
    icemom011 wrote: »
    That's from my neurologist. I don't think i can post links from my phone. Try to google it,i guess. I was just as surprised. My condition called foot drop. Caused by couple of hours of gardening, crouching down and putting pressure on the nerve. I don't have anorexia, i eat really well, and i mean super healthy. I do take some supplements suggested by my doctor, that I'm a little low on, according to my blood work. I am a healthy person, this is just food for thought for those that care to listen. Dosome research, so not to end up in a similar situation.

    How would one avoid such neurological damage? Not lose weight?
  • MommyMeggo
    MommyMeggo Posts: 1,222 Member
    edited October 2016
    Foot drop is a gait abnormality in which the dropping of the forefoot happens due to weakness, irritation or damage to the common fibular nerve including the sciatic nerve, or paralysis of the muscles in the anterior portion of the lower leg. It is usually a symptom of a greater problem, not a disease in itself.

    Causes
    By Mayo Clinic Staff
    Foot drop is caused by weakness or paralysis of the muscles involved in lifting the front part of the foot. The underlying causes of foot drop are varied and may include:

    Nerve injury. The most common cause of foot drop is compression of a nerve in your leg that controls the muscles involved in lifting the foot. This nerve can also be injured during hip or knee replacement surgery, which may cause foot drop. A nerve root injury ("pinched nerve") in the spine can also cause foot drop. People who have diabetes are more susceptible to nerve disorders, which are associated with foot drop.

    Muscle or nerve disorders. Various forms of muscular dystrophy, an inherited disease that causes progressive muscle weakness, may contribute to foot drop. Other disorders, such as polio or Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease, also can cause foot drop.

    Brain and spinal cord disorders. Disorders that affect the spinal cord or brain — such as amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), multiple sclerosis or stroke — may cause foot drop.


    Edit: I dont know what this has to do with nerve damage from weight loss. *shrug* Hope you heal up quickly!
  • cathipa
    cathipa Posts: 2,991 Member
    What about B12 deficiency? This can cause nerve problems. I have never heard of this and I would think with all of the people who have lost significant weight on here there would be someone else who shares this problem if it was that common.
  • Sara1791
    Sara1791 Posts: 760 Member
    I think it's called peroneal neuropathy. It's uncommon but is associated with fast extreme weight loss. @owieprone said it well.
  • Mavrick_RN
    Mavrick_RN Posts: 439 Member
    I'm surprised you didn't notice the effects of nerve compression at the time like numbness or tingling. The human body is built to move. Any time you are in one position too long there are consequences. People of any weight that sit too long on airplanes or at a computer can have circulatory problems as well as nerve problems.

    When people are under anesthesia and not able to move, OR nurses take great care to pad and protect nerves and boney points. Even then sometimes people will wake up and wonder why their arm hurts after having hip surgery.

    Fat provides a protection of sorts to underlying structures. Without that protection you will have to be more aware of your body and the messages it sends you.
  • Alidecker
    Alidecker Posts: 1,262 Member
    I had foot drop after losing weight, it was caused by crossing my legs so much...something that I couldn't do comfortably before the weight loss. Mine was not serious, it went away in less than a week when I stopped crossing my legs all the time.
  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    MommyMeggo wrote: »
    icemom011 wrote: »
    That's from my neurologist. I don't think i can post links from my phone. Try to google it,i guess. I was just as surprised. My condition called foot drop. Caused by couple of hours of gardening, crouching down and putting pressure on the nerve. I don't have anorexia, i eat really well, and i mean super healthy. I do take some supplements suggested by my doctor, that I'm a little low on, according to my blood work. I am a healthy person, this is just food for thought for those that care to listen. Dosome research, so not to end up in a similar situation.

    How would one avoid such neurological damage? Not lose weight?

    Oh, gosh, noi! Of course no. Just make sure to change positions, don't create pressure points for prolonged periods of time. Even when sleeping, apparently. If you prone to crossing legs, while it's ok, switch legs around, yncross every once in a while, things like that.
  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    Alidecker wrote: »
    I had foot drop after losing weight, it was caused by crossing my legs so much...something that I couldn't do comfortably before the weight loss. Mine was not serious, it went away in less than a week when I stopped crossing my legs all the time.

    Awesome! Mine is 6 days already, just a bit better, but still no full control.
  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    Mavrick_RN wrote: »
    I'm surprised you didn't notice the effects of nerve compression at the time like numbness or tingling. The human body is built to move. Any time you are in one position too long there are consequences. People of any weight that sit too long on airplanes or at a computer can have circulatory problems as well as nerve problems.

    When people are under anesthesia and not able to move, OR nurses take great care to pad and protect nerves and boney points. Even then sometimes people will wake up and wonder why their arm hurts after having hip surgery.

    Fat provides a protection of sorts to underlying structures. Without that protection you will have to be more aware of your body and the messages it sends you.

    Yes, me too. Very surprised. Didn't feel the numbness, changed position just a bit here and there, but always came back into same position with leg tucked under and sitting on it. I was too much into my task, i guess. There was definitely no tingling. And i tought that i will just walk it off after a few minutes after i realized i was walking funny and my leg didn't listen and didn't want to work correctly. After some time of nothing changing, i knew i had nerve damage. Doc said it's reversible though, hope he's right. I read that it's not always the case.
  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    Sara1791 wrote: »
    I think it's called peroneal neuropathy. It's uncommon but is associated with fast extreme weight loss. @owieprone said it well.

    Yes, that's exactly what it is. My neurologist said it's very common, and be careful and be aware.
  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    cathipa wrote: »
    What about B12 deficiency? This can cause nerve problems. I have never heard of this and I would think with all of the people who have lost significant weight on here there would be someone else who shares this problem if it was that common.

    I take b12 every day. It's compression on the nerve, more of a mechanical issue.
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    I've never heard of this as a specific problem although clearly if you lose fat you are losing some of the protective padding around your musculature, nervous system and bones. Mostly what I have heard (and experienced) is related to feeling colder in the cold and being a little less comfortable sitting on hard things. Haven't experienced anything like nerve damage.
  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    MommyMeggo wrote: »
    Foot drop is a gait abnormality in which the dropping of the forefoot happens due to weakness, irritation or damage to the common fibular nerve including the sciatic nerve, or paralysis of the muscles in the anterior portion of the lower leg. It is usually a symptom of a greater problem, not a disease in itself.

    Causes
    By Mayo Clinic Staff
    Foot drop is caused by weakness or paralysis of the muscles involved in lifting the front part of the foot. The underlying causes of foot drop are varied and may include:

    Nerve injury. The most common cause of foot drop is compression of a nerve in your leg that controls the muscles involved in lifting the foot. This nerve can also be injured during hip or knee replacement surgery, which may cause foot drop. A nerve root injury ("pinched nerve") in the spine can also cause foot drop. People who have diabetes are more susceptible to nerve disorders, which are associated with foot drop.

    Muscle or nerve disorders. Various forms of muscular dystrophy, an inherited disease that causes progressive muscle weakness, may contribute to foot drop. Other disorders, such as polio or Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease, also can cause foot drop.

    Brain and spinal cord disorders. Disorders that affect the spinal cord or brain — such as amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), multiple sclerosis or stroke — may cause foot drop.


    Edit: I dont know what this has to do with nerve damage from weight loss. *shrug* Hope you heal up quickly!

    It has to do with compression of the nerve for too long. Shrug away, i guess? But thank you for well wishes. I haven't heard of it until now, when I'm affected. Just a heads up to my fellow mfp community. With love and care. If it helps someone, great. No one needs to learn on their own mistakes, i think. Unless they choose to.
  • MommyMeggo
    MommyMeggo Posts: 1,222 Member
    edited October 2016
    icemom011 wrote: »
    MommyMeggo wrote: »
    Foot drop is a gait abnormality in which the dropping of the forefoot happens due to weakness, irritation or damage to the common fibular nerve including the sciatic nerve, or paralysis of the muscles in the anterior portion of the lower leg. It is usually a symptom of a greater problem, not a disease in itself.

    Causes
    By Mayo Clinic Staff
    Foot drop is caused by weakness or paralysis of the muscles involved in lifting the front part of the foot. The underlying causes of foot drop are varied and may include:

    Nerve injury. The most common cause of foot drop is compression of a nerve in your leg that controls the muscles involved in lifting the foot. This nerve can also be injured during hip or knee replacement surgery, which may cause foot drop. A nerve root injury ("pinched nerve") in the spine can also cause foot drop. People who have diabetes are more susceptible to nerve disorders, which are associated with foot drop.

    Muscle or nerve disorders. Various forms of muscular dystrophy, an inherited disease that causes progressive muscle weakness, may contribute to foot drop. Other disorders, such as polio or Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease, also can cause foot drop.

    Brain and spinal cord disorders. Disorders that affect the spinal cord or brain — such as amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), multiple sclerosis or stroke — may cause foot drop.


    Edit: I dont know what this has to do with nerve damage from weight loss. *shrug* Hope you heal up quickly!

    It has to do with compression of the nerve for too long. Shrug away, i guess? But thank you for well wishes. I haven't heard of it until now, when I'm affected. Just a heads up to my fellow mfp community. With love and care. If it helps someone, great. No one needs to learn on their own mistakes, i think. Unless they choose to.

    Right, compression of nerves - but why does this come as a result of weight loss? I could be dense today so forgive me - Its Monday part two.
    But isnt this a common thing for anyone with nerves? Who does yard work or sits cross-legged? I was just curious where the weight loss comes into play with damaging nerves. (Not saying you are wrong here just questioning how they are physically related as cause and effect)
    Edit: Im not asking YOU to explain it to me as far as science and physiology are concerned. Its just a broader scope of "how and why".
  • cathipa
    cathipa Posts: 2,991 Member
    icemom011 wrote: »
    cathipa wrote: »
    What about B12 deficiency? This can cause nerve problems. I have never heard of this and I would think with all of the people who have lost significant weight on here there would be someone else who shares this problem if it was that common.

    I take b12 every day. It's compression on the nerve, more of a mechanical issue.

    OK. I haven't heard about it before in relation to normal weight loss. Hope you heal quickly!
  • cqbkaju
    cqbkaju Posts: 1,011 Member
    edited October 2016
    I teach techniques that are meant to target nerves ("pressure point control") for pain compliance and restraint.
    I also used to work along side a neurologist while teaching said techniques; I've never heard of this.
    It is true that more body fat (or muscle, clothing or anything else) may provide more cushion or protection against anything "attacking" a nerve cluster, but I do not see how being thinner makes a person more susceptible to nerve damage.

    If you have a structural problem causing some sort of nerve issue then that is not the same reason as you lost "a lot of weight".
    More likely, being overweight caused structural issues that were not obvious until you lost the weight.

    Discomfort from pinching or hitting a nerve (i.e. "funny bone") more often because you are thin is not the same thing as nerve damage.

    "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." -- Inigo Montoya
  • icemom011
    icemom011 Posts: 999 Member
    MommyMeggo wrote: »
    icemom011 wrote: »
    MommyMeggo wrote: »
    Foot drop is a gait abnormality in which the dropping of the forefoot happens due to weakness, irritation or damage to the common fibular nerve including the sciatic nerve, or paralysis of the muscles in the anterior portion of the lower leg. It is usually a symptom of a greater problem, not a disease in itself.

    Causes
    By Mayo Clinic Staff
    Foot drop is caused by weakness or paralysis of the muscles involved in lifting the front part of the foot. The underlying causes of foot drop are varied and may include:

    Nerve injury. The most common cause of foot drop is compression of a nerve in your leg that controls the muscles involved in lifting the foot. This nerve can also be injured during hip or knee replacement surgery, which may cause foot drop. A nerve root injury ("pinched nerve") in the spine can also cause foot drop. People who have diabetes are more susceptible to nerve disorders, which are associated with foot drop.

    Muscle or nerve disorders. Various forms of muscular dystrophy, an inherited disease that causes progressive muscle weakness, may contribute to foot drop. Other disorders, such as polio or Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease, also can cause foot drop.

    Brain and spinal cord disorders. Disorders that affect the spinal cord or brain — such as amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), multiple sclerosis or stroke — may cause foot drop.


    Edit: I dont know what this has to do with nerve damage from weight loss. *shrug* Hope you heal up quickly!

    It has to do with compression of the nerve for too long. Shrug away, i guess? But thank you for well wishes. I haven't heard of it until now, when I'm affected. Just a heads up to my fellow mfp community. With love and care. If it helps someone, great. No one needs to learn on their own mistakes, i think. Unless they choose to.

    Right, compression of nerves - but why does this come as a result of weight loss? I could be dense today so forgive me - Its Monday part two.
    But isnt this a common thing for anyone with nerves? Who does yard work or sits cross-legged? I was just curious where the weight loss comes into play with damaging nerves. (Not saying you are wrong here just questioning how they are physically related as cause and effect)
    Edit: Im not asking YOU to explain it to me as far as science and physiology are concerned. Its just a broader scope of "how and why".

    With fat layer diminishing, the nerves are closer to the skin and exposed more than ever before
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    I experienced foot drop one time in my life not that long ago. It was from sitting on an overly hard chair in an awkward way for way to long at a buisness conference. When I got up to walk I found I kept tripping over things and my gait felt off. Took me a while to notice I wasn't able to point my toes or lift my foot anymore and that was freaky. Read up on it decided to just give it time. It took 2 weeks before I was able to point my toes again. At this point though everything is fine. Nothing to do with weightloss other than I imagine if I was quite fat perhaps I wouldn't have pinched the nerve on a hard chair.
  • elisa123gal
    elisa123gal Posts: 4,333 Member
    now, i de recall losing weight and my legs and side falling asleep on my side at night because i no longer had fat to pad pressure points on my bones. It was weird and worried me. But i never considered it nerve damage. I did notice tingling sometimes in my legs too during the day. I never went to a doctor and it worked itself out.. also i've gained my weight back.. but do wonder if it will happen when I lose again.

    So maybe you are being dramatic with your self diagnosis.
  • MommyMeggo
    MommyMeggo Posts: 1,222 Member
    icemom011 wrote: »
    MommyMeggo wrote: »
    icemom011 wrote: »
    MommyMeggo wrote: »
    Foot drop is a gait abnormality in which the dropping of the forefoot happens due to weakness, irritation or damage to the common fibular nerve including the sciatic nerve, or paralysis of the muscles in the anterior portion of the lower leg. It is usually a symptom of a greater problem, not a disease in itself.

    Causes
    By Mayo Clinic Staff
    Foot drop is caused by weakness or paralysis of the muscles involved in lifting the front part of the foot. The underlying causes of foot drop are varied and may include:

    Nerve injury. The most common cause of foot drop is compression of a nerve in your leg that controls the muscles involved in lifting the foot. This nerve can also be injured during hip or knee replacement surgery, which may cause foot drop. A nerve root injury ("pinched nerve") in the spine can also cause foot drop. People who have diabetes are more susceptible to nerve disorders, which are associated with foot drop.

    Muscle or nerve disorders. Various forms of muscular dystrophy, an inherited disease that causes progressive muscle weakness, may contribute to foot drop. Other disorders, such as polio or Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease, also can cause foot drop.

    Brain and spinal cord disorders. Disorders that affect the spinal cord or brain — such as amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), multiple sclerosis or stroke — may cause foot drop.


    Edit: I dont know what this has to do with nerve damage from weight loss. *shrug* Hope you heal up quickly!

    It has to do with compression of the nerve for too long. Shrug away, i guess? But thank you for well wishes. I haven't heard of it until now, when I'm affected. Just a heads up to my fellow mfp community. With love and care. If it helps someone, great. No one needs to learn on their own mistakes, i think. Unless they choose to.

    Right, compression of nerves - but why does this come as a result of weight loss? I could be dense today so forgive me - Its Monday part two.
    But isnt this a common thing for anyone with nerves? Who does yard work or sits cross-legged? I was just curious where the weight loss comes into play with damaging nerves. (Not saying you are wrong here just questioning how they are physically related as cause and effect)
    Edit: Im not asking YOU to explain it to me as far as science and physiology are concerned. Its just a broader scope of "how and why".

    With fat layer diminishing, the nerves are closer to the skin and exposed more than ever before

    So are the bones. Doesnt mean they'll break more easily.

    If anything Id guess there would less damage done as the weight comes off, not more.
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