Bulletproof Coffee
erider0505
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Thoughts on Bulletproof Coffee. Is it healthy or not? I have been drinking it for a couple months, but am wondering how healthy it truly is. Isn't having a normal breakfast better for you? I have been researching it online and it has mixed reviews, some it is healthy and some say it is bad for you.
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It's faddish!
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It depends on your goals. I don't use the brand of Bulletproof coffee, but my normal weekday breakfast is coffee with added fat and protein. Usually it is protein powder, HWC, and margarine. Sometimes I'll also add MCT oil. For me, it provides macro-nutrients to fit my plan. So it is subjectively "healthy" for me. If what you eat fits your plan (assuming your plan is what you need to reach whatever goals you have set), then the food itself can be considered to be "healthy."0
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You are literally just adding fat to coffee. There's nothing special about it. I prefer eating actual food, but if you can fit it into your calorie goal and it's something you enjoy, then go for it. Otherwise, there's nothing special or magical about drinking "bulletproof" coffee. It's not "healthy" or unhealthy, it just is what it is.
Now if we're talking about dave asprey, i can go off on a tangent about lack of science, him taking a ton of ridiculous things, etc.10 -
I personally love BPC. I follow a ketogenic/LCHF diet and my issue is getting enough fat in my diet. I do okay keeping carbs down but I find it is very easy for me to eat too much protein. So BPC along with fat bombs are a great way for me to hit my fat goals. Plus it really energizes me and keeps me full until lunch or dinner. I do make a point not to drink it TOO often because I don't to deprive myself of various nutrients. Also, I do not use anything from the brand "Bulletproof" by Dave Asprey. I simply mix coffee with butter, heavy whipping cream, MCT oil I got off Amazon, cinnamon, and liquid stevia. It's delicious.
There is a VERY thorough discussion on it in the Low Carber Daily Forum.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10463868/lets-talk-about-bulletproof-coffee#latest5 -
I would tend to think this is a bad idea for the majority of people.
And while this is purely anecdote I know Dr Spencer Nadolsky (obesity physician who is also active in the fitness community) has seen evidence of concerning health markers that seem to be correlated with people drinking BP coffee and it might have to do with the rather extreme nature of it.4 -
@bowlerae Thank you! I haven't tried it with heavy cream. I do 2 TBPSN butter & Coconut Oil & 1 TBPSN Brain Octane. I will try heavy cream too. I am also trying to following a keto diet. Just want to make sure it is healthy, as that is my main goal.0
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Unless you are ingesting poison, I would say that consuming 1 product will not have a negative effect on health.
Regarding Bulletproof coffee, I think it is pointless to add fat to coffee as I would rather eat something and drink black coffee. I believe it is part of the crossfit/paleo/keto "lifestyle" which I dislike immensely.6 -
erider0505 wrote: »Thoughts on Bulletproof Coffee. Is it healthy or not? I have been drinking it for a couple months, but am wondering how healthy it truly is. Isn't having a normal breakfast better for you? I have been researching it online and it has mixed reviews, some it is healthy and some say it is bad for you.
Breakfast is irrelevant, really. But for me bulletproof coffee sounds unappealing (I like coffee black) and has no health benefits -- butter and coconut oil are great for cooking and tasty, but don't really have many nutrients on their own. Therefore, if I am going to invest calories in breakfast (and I usually do), I like for them to include protein and a variety of micronutrients -- usually including vegetables, maybe fruit. But if you prefer a different kind of breakfast and getting in protein/micros in other ways, that's totally fine.0 -
I drink it most days. It fits my macros. I eat LCHF and tend to skip a breakfast do drinking coffee with a teaspoon of coconut oil (lots of MCTs - great for brain health) and some cream fills me up. Plus I love sipping coffee and like the taste.
I've always liked drinking my calories too. I like smoothies, coffee with cream, teas, and I used to like alcoholic drinks. Those who don't drink their calories might not enjoy it.
I am sure it isn't bad for you. My BPC probably has about the same calories as someone else's creamer and sugar. I just don't have the carbs in mine.
About the only time BPC might be a bad idea is if you are adding it onto an already full breakfast. Depending on how you make it, it could be a few hundred extra calories per day.0 -
I drink it most days. It fits my macros. I eat LCHF and tend to skip a breakfast do drinking coffee with a teaspoon of coconut oil (lots of MCTs - great for brain health) and some cream fills me up. Plus I love sipping coffee and like the taste.
I've always liked drinking my calories too. I like smoothies, coffee with cream, teas, and I used to like alcoholic drinks. Those who don't drink their calories might not enjoy it.
I am sure it isn't bad for you. My BPC probably has about the same calories as someone else's creamer and sugar. I just don't have the carbs in mine.
About the only time BPC might be a bad idea is if you are adding it onto an already full breakfast. Depending on how you make it, it could be a few hundred extra calories per day.
IIRC one of Asprey's recommendations clocks in around 600cals? At SOME point I'd have to think that might matter in some individuals even under a condition where someone isn't gaining bodyweight.2 -
The logic to me.. is to keep yourself in a fat burning state after fasting during sleep. If you eat any carb your body comes out of the fat burning fasting state. So, in theory. you drink coffee with butter, or coconut oil it keeps your body during fat until you eat at lunch. I learned this from my intermittent fasting group.. where some do this in the mornings.
That's all I can dish on the subject.. Iv'e never done it.2 -
elisa123gal wrote: »The logic to me.. is to keep yourself in a fat burning state after fasting during sleep. If you eat any carb your body comes out of the fat burning fasting state. So, in theory. you drink coffee with butter, or coconut oil it keeps your body during fat until you eat at lunch. I learned this from my intermittent fasting group.. where some do this in the mornings.
That's all I can dish on the subject.. Iv'e never done it.
Yes, some people drink BPC for that reason. Personally, I add protein powder and HWC, so that wouldn't work out. Not that I care because it is basically just a breakfast replacement for me, but just pointing out that there are other goals with BPC.1 -
I don't see why it would be unhealthy, but it is the most bizarre concept I've ever heard of. It totally beats out drinking kale on the weird food idea scale.5
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I e never tried it, but I do add a good bit of cream or half and half to my coffee (and no sweetener/sugar), and tend to skip breakfast. The fat content does seem to keep me satisfied until lunch. If it fits your calories, fills you up, and you like it, why not? And what is a "normal" breakfast? Personally I think breakfast is overrated. As long as you are hitting your macro and micro needs with the rest of your day, I don't see breakfast, or a lack thereof, as being particularly critical.2
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Brain Octane!?! You realize that you're just dosing your coffee with this stuff:
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-915-medium+chain+triglycerides.aspx
Just put blueberries and sesame seeds on your morning cereal. It's probably tastes better too.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/eat-smart-healthier-brain#10 -
I drink BPC almost everyday with a tablespoon of MCT. LOVE IT0
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elisa123gal wrote: »The logic to me.. is to keep yourself in a fat burning state after fasting during sleep. If you eat any carb your body comes out of the fat burning fasting state. So, in theory. you drink coffee with butter, or coconut oil it keeps your body during fat until you eat at lunch. I learned this from my intermittent fasting group.. where some do this in the mornings.
That's all I can dish on the subject.. Iv'e never done it.
Is this true? I mean about the fat burning state, coffee, fat and fasting after sleep?
Carbs stop fat burning in the day time?
I thought most fat is used during sleep and rest state, not much in the day time.
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I drink it most days. It fits my macros. I eat LCHF and tend to skip a breakfast do drinking coffee with a teaspoon of coconut oil (lots of MCTs - great for brain health) and some cream fills me up. Plus I love sipping coffee and like the taste.
I've always liked drinking my calories too. I like smoothies, coffee with cream, teas, and I used to like alcoholic drinks. Those who don't drink their calories might not enjoy it.
I am sure it isn't bad for you. My BPC probably has about the same calories as someone else's creamer and sugar. I just don't have the carbs in mine.
About the only time BPC might be a bad idea is if you are adding it onto an already full breakfast. Depending on how you make it, it could be a few hundred extra calories per day.
IIRC one of Asprey's recommendations clocks in around 600cals? At SOME point I'd have to think that might matter in some individuals even under a condition where someone isn't gaining bodyweight.
You could be right. I have no idea - I've never followed Asprey. I was putting coconut oil in my coffee long before I'd ever heard of him or BPC. It started with coconut cream from a can because I had some dairy issues and liked cream in my coffee, and many of the substitute milks had cross contamination issues that could have been a problem for my family. I switched to coconut oil because it was cheaper than coconut milk.
600kcal of coconut oil is a lot. Theraputic levels are often that high but I doubt the average Joe needs, or wants that much. I'd be in the bathroom all day if I didn't build up to that much.1 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I don't see why it would be unhealthy, but it is the most bizarre concept I've ever heard of. It totally beats out drinking kale on the weird food idea scale.
It really isn't any odder than putting cow breast milk and evaporated beet juice in your coffee.
It's more a matter of what you are used to. 3 -
elisa123gal wrote: »The logic to me.. is to keep yourself in a fat burning state after fasting during sleep. If you eat any carb your body comes out of the fat burning fasting state. So, in theory. you drink coffee with butter, or coconut oil it keeps your body during fat until you eat at lunch. I learned this from my intermittent fasting group.. where some do this in the mornings.
That's all I can dish on the subject.. Iv'e never done it.
Is this true? I mean about the fat burning state, coffee, fat and fasting after sleep?
Carbs stop fat burning in the day time?
Not completely, or all day long, and also it doesn't matter. You burn the same amount of calories over time, and if there is a deficit the extra will come from bodyfat (mostly). The timing of when you burn it is irrelevant.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »elisa123gal wrote: »The logic to me.. is to keep yourself in a fat burning state after fasting during sleep. If you eat any carb your body comes out of the fat burning fasting state. So, in theory. you drink coffee with butter, or coconut oil it keeps your body during fat until you eat at lunch. I learned this from my intermittent fasting group.. where some do this in the mornings.
That's all I can dish on the subject.. Iv'e never done it.
Is this true? I mean about the fat burning state, coffee, fat and fasting after sleep?
Carbs stop fat burning in the day time?
Not completely, or all day long, and also it doesn't matter. You burn the same amount of calories over time, and if there is a deficit the extra will come from bodyfat (mostly). The timing of when you burn it is irrelevant.
It's true that you burn more fat if you eat fewer carbohydrates and more fat.
However you're also eating more fat.
The end result is not going to be more body fat being burned if we are comparing identical calories and protein intake.2 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »elisa123gal wrote: »The logic to me.. is to keep yourself in a fat burning state after fasting during sleep. If you eat any carb your body comes out of the fat burning fasting state. So, in theory. you drink coffee with butter, or coconut oil it keeps your body during fat until you eat at lunch. I learned this from my intermittent fasting group.. where some do this in the mornings.
That's all I can dish on the subject.. Iv'e never done it.
Is this true? I mean about the fat burning state, coffee, fat and fasting after sleep?
Carbs stop fat burning in the day time?
Not completely, or all day long, and also it doesn't matter. You burn the same amount of calories over time, and if there is a deficit the extra will come from bodyfat (mostly). The timing of when you burn it is irrelevant.
It's true that you burn more fat if you eat fewer carbohydrates and more fat.
However you're also eating more fat.
The end result is not going to be more body fat being burned if we are comparing identical calories and protein intake.
Am I dense? I'm still not getting it. sorry. Mor explanation maybe?
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lemurcat12 wrote: »elisa123gal wrote: »The logic to me.. is to keep yourself in a fat burning state after fasting during sleep. If you eat any carb your body comes out of the fat burning fasting state. So, in theory. you drink coffee with butter, or coconut oil it keeps your body during fat until you eat at lunch. I learned this from my intermittent fasting group.. where some do this in the mornings.
That's all I can dish on the subject.. Iv'e never done it.
Is this true? I mean about the fat burning state, coffee, fat and fasting after sleep?
Carbs stop fat burning in the day time?
Not completely, or all day long, and also it doesn't matter. You burn the same amount of calories over time, and if there is a deficit the extra will come from bodyfat (mostly). The timing of when you burn it is irrelevant.
It's true that you burn more fat if you eat fewer carbohydrates and more fat.
However you're also eating more fat.
The end result is not going to be more body fat being burned if we are comparing identical calories and protein intake.
Yep.
It's analogous to the argument that you burn more fat if you do fasted cardio (or, sigh, work out in the "fat burning zone"). While exercising, sure, but over the course of the day you are going to burn what you eat plus, if there is a deficit, additional body fat. Can't burn body fat without being at a deficit, and you won't add net fat if you are at a deficit, it's just going to affect the timing of what you are burning.0 -
Fat gives you a satisfied full feeling. It keeps the hunger pains away. You body can't store the fat you eat. You don't get fat from eating fat. You get fat from eating foods that your body can turn into fat.
I'm on a Keto/Low Carb High Fat diet. I am losing weight, feel great and am able to work out in ways that I haven't been able to since I was a kid.
Every morning I put whipping cream into my coffee. It tastes just awesome. I often don't have lunch until 2:00 pm in the afternoon but I WILL eat lunch as soon as I get hungry. Some days I eat at 11:00 am.
On Sunday (yesterday), after my coffee, I worked out in the pool for 1 hour (3.2 km swim) then got on the treadmill for another 2 hours (4 mph/8 degrees). I was played-out when I was I done.
I had lunch at 1:00 pm. Dinner the night before was 7:00 pm.
That is the advantage of being in KETO. You get your energy from stored fat rather than from consumed carbs. I've got 210,000 calories of stored energy on my body that I am now able to access.
I've lost about 100 lbs over the last 9 months and don't struggle at all with what I am eating. Who can argue with whipping cream in their coffee.
For me, Bullet Proof coffee gives me a satisfied full feeling while a carb breakfast just makes me want to eat more.
I wouldn't change back for the world.
While I am still 240 lbs, my blood pressure is awesome, my resting heart rate is in the high 50's, I am able to work out for 3 hours in a row, and I get to eat full satisfying meals.
It won't be long and I will be at my target weight. I can't imagine ever going back to a traditional diet.
Since I get whipping cream in my coffee, I don't slip up. I don't need to. I get all the pleasure of eating from foods that encourage good health... like whipping cream. LOL.
There is a low carb high fat page on MFP. Check it out. AND... if you don't believe or like it... that is ok. I am not trying to sell you on this. I just wish someone had told me about it a long time ago.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I don't see why it would be unhealthy, but it is the most bizarre concept I've ever heard of. It totally beats out drinking kale on the weird food idea scale.
It really isn't any odder than putting cow breast milk and evaporated beet juice in your coffee. It's more a matter of what you are used to.
Things become more bizarre the less familiar they are?!? You're kidding!
I don't think there is such a thing as cow breast milk since cows don't have breasts.2 -
Fat gives you a satisfied full feeling. It keeps the hunger pains away. You body can't store the fat you eat.
I'm on a Keto/Low Carb High Fat diet. I am losing weight, feel great and am able to work out in ways that I haven't been able to since I was a kid.
Every morning I put whipping cream into my coffee. It tastes just awesome. I often don't have lunch until 2:00 pm in the afternoon but I WILL eat lunch as soon as I get hungry. Some days I eat at 11:00 am.
On Sunday (yesterday), after my coffee, I worked out in the pool for 1 hour (3.2 km) then got on the treadmill for another 2 hours (4 mph/8 degrees). I was played-out when I was I done.
I had lunch at 1:00 pm. Dinner the night before was 7:00 pm.
That is the advantage of being in KETO. You get your energy from stored fat rather than from consumed carbs. I've got 210,000 calories of stored energy on my body that I am now able to access.
I've lost about 100 lbs over the last 9 months and don't struggle at all with what I am eating. Who can argue with whipping cream in their coffee.
For me, Bullet Proof coffee gives me a satisfied full feeling while a carb breakfast just makes me want to eat more.
I wouldn't change back for the world.
While I am still 240 lbs, my blood pressure is awesome, my resting heart rate is in the high 50's, and I am able to work out for 3 hours in a row and I get to eat full satisfying meals.
It won't be long and I will be at my target weight. I can't imagine ever going back to a traditional diet though.
You should really try and research some more. because...
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Fat gives you a satisfied full feeling. It keeps the hunger pains away. You body can't store the fat you eat.
I'm on a Keto/Low Carb High Fat diet. I am losing weight, feel great and am able to work out in ways that I haven't been able to since I was a kid.
Every morning I put whipping cream into my coffee. It tastes just awesome. I often don't have lunch until 2:00 pm in the afternoon but I WILL eat lunch as soon as I get hungry. Some days I eat at 11:00 am.
On Sunday (yesterday), after my coffee, I worked out in the pool for 1 hour (3.2 km) then got on the treadmill for another 2 hours (4 mph/8 degrees). I was played-out when I was I done.
I had lunch at 1:00 pm. Dinner the night before was 7:00 pm.
That is the advantage of being in KETO. You get your energy from stored fat rather than from consumed carbs. I've got 210,000 calories of stored energy on my body that I am now able to access.
I've lost about 100 lbs over the last 9 months and don't struggle at all with what I am eating. Who can argue with whipping cream in their coffee.
For me, Bullet Proof coffee gives me a satisfied full feeling while a carb breakfast just makes me want to eat more.
I wouldn't change back for the world.
While I am still 240 lbs, my blood pressure is awesome, my resting heart rate is in the high 50's, and I am able to work out for 3 hours in a row and I get to eat full satisfying meals.
It won't be long and I will be at my target weight. I can't imagine ever going back to a traditional diet though.
Your body certainly CAN store the fat you eat if you are eating more calories than you are expending.6 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I don't see why it would be unhealthy, but it is the most bizarre concept I've ever heard of. It totally beats out drinking kale on the weird food idea scale.
It really isn't any odder than putting cow breast milk and evaporated beet juice in your coffee. It's more a matter of what you are used to.
Things become more bizarre the less familiar they are?!? You're kidding!
I don't think there is such a thing as cow breast milk since cows don't have breasts.
I am now as udderly confused as you
ETA. Do beets have breast?1 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »elisa123gal wrote: »The logic to me.. is to keep yourself in a fat burning state after fasting during sleep. If you eat any carb your body comes out of the fat burning fasting state. So, in theory. you drink coffee with butter, or coconut oil it keeps your body during fat until you eat at lunch. I learned this from my intermittent fasting group.. where some do this in the mornings.
That's all I can dish on the subject.. Iv'e never done it.
Is this true? I mean about the fat burning state, coffee, fat and fasting after sleep?
Carbs stop fat burning in the day time?
Not completely, or all day long, and also it doesn't matter. You burn the same amount of calories over time, and if there is a deficit the extra will come from bodyfat (mostly). The timing of when you burn it is irrelevant.
It's true that you burn more fat if you eat fewer carbohydrates and more fat.
However you're also eating more fat.
The end result is not going to be more body fat being burned if we are comparing identical calories and protein intake.
Am I dense? I'm still not getting it. sorry. Mor explanation maybe?
It affects timing -- you mostly burn fat when sleeping, but if you eat carbs you will burn those instead and less fat for a while (how long depends on the amount of carbs, size of the meal, etc.).
Then you will go back to burning more fat, if not moving vigorously. When moving vigorously your percentage of fat burned will go down again and you will rely more on glycogen.
But all of this is about timing, not body fat burned.
Oversimplifying for the example, let's take two people who eat 1500 calories and burn about 500 calories every day for a week. One eats no breakfast and about 60% fat (or 900 calories). The other eats breakfast and about 20% fat (or 300 calories). In a week, the first one will have burned about 1400 calories of fat on average per day, whereas the second will have burned about 800 calories of fat per day, and they will have burned the fat at different times (the first person probably more in the morning), but both will have lost 1 lb and burned the same amount of net fat (fat above what they ate). The first person burned more fat because she ate more fat.
Does that make sense?1
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