Bulletproof Coffee
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I don't think it's good or bad- it's just a matter of whether it helps you meet your goals or not0
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Man, people will do just about anything...to do very little in the way of make true changes.0
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Fat gives you a satisfied full feeling. It keeps the hunger pains away. You body can't store the fat you eat. You don't get fat from eating fat. You get fat from eating foods that your body can turn into fat.
I'm on a Keto/Low Carb High Fat diet. I am losing weight, feel great and am able to work out in ways that I haven't been able to since I was a kid.
Every morning I put whipping cream into my coffee. It tastes just awesome. I often don't have lunch until 2:00 pm in the afternoon but I WILL eat lunch as soon as I get hungry. Some days I eat at 11:00 am.
On Sunday (yesterday), after my coffee, I worked out in the pool for 1 hour (3.2 km swim) then got on the treadmill for another 2 hours (4 mph/8 degrees). I was played-out when I was I done.
I had lunch at 1:00 pm. Dinner the night before was 7:00 pm.
That is the advantage of being in KETO. You get your energy from stored fat rather than from consumed carbs. I've got 210,000 calories of stored energy on my body that I am now able to access.
I've lost about 100 lbs over the last 9 months and don't struggle at all with what I am eating. Who can argue with whipping cream in their coffee.
For me, Bullet Proof coffee gives me a satisfied full feeling while a carb breakfast just makes me want to eat more.
I wouldn't change back for the world.
While I am still 240 lbs, my blood pressure is awesome, my resting heart rate is in the high 50's, I am able to work out for 3 hours in a row, and I get to eat full satisfying meals.
It won't be long and I will be at my target weight. I can't imagine ever going back to a traditional diet.
Since I get whipping cream in my coffee, I don't slip up. I don't need to. I get all the pleasure of eating from foods that encourage good health... like whipping cream. LOL.
There is a low carb high fat page on MFP. Check it out. AND... if you don't believe or like it... that is ok. I am not trying to sell you on this. I just wish someone had told me about it a long time ago.
I'm very glad you've found something that works for you!
However, dietary fat does get stored as fat and in fact it's the primary means by which we store fat because it's efficient.
Carbohydrates don't get stored as fat to any large degree in humans (through de novo lipogenesis) and protein even less so.
However when you consume large amounts of carbohydrates you start oxidizing carbs at a higher rate and fat at a lower rate and so a greater portion of dietary fat gets stored.
So basically you'll get fat when you overeat, it's just not as much from carbs being stored as fat--it's from fat oxidation being blunted and more dietary fat gets stored directly.6 -
Well.... perhaps I am wrong... but I don't think so.
Dietary fat CANNOT and DOES NOT get stored as fat in the body.
It takes a ton of energy for your body to convert protein into fat that can be stored. In fact, only about 333 calories from each 1000 calorie portion will be stored. The other 667 calories will be burned in the transition.
However, fat contains a LOT of calories. If you consume fat, and you have a surplus of calories, your body will work very hard to store all those carbs and proteins.
Go ahead and google... "Why Fat does not make you fat" or "Can fat make you fat", or "Does dietary fat make you fat" etc.
Go for it. It was an eye opener for me. Changed the way I look at food.
If you like it what I said... just ignore.
But the idea that dietary fat turns into body fat quickly and easily is just wrong.
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jennifer_417 wrote: »I don't think it's good or bad- it's just a matter of whether it helps you meet your goals or not
Agreed. I eat strictly keto (very low carbs, high fat, moderate/adequate protein), but don't drink BPC. I figure some people must like it. I gladly put a splash of heavy cream in my morning joe, which I find tastier than an equal calorie portion of fat free non dairy creamer. But, I'd rather use my butter to cook my eggs
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Well.... perhaps I am wrong... but I don't think so.
Dietary fat CANNOT and DOES NOT get stored as fat in the body.
FWIW, you are wrong - or at least have been misled by the church of HFLC.
Fat is the easiest macronutrient for the body to metabolize/store as fat. Carbohydrates have to undergo de novo lipogenesis, which is an inefficient and metabolically expensive process, so (as Sidesteel said), they're not stored as fat to any large degree in humans. And proteins even less so. Read under the heading "How We Get Fat Part 3" of this article, which explains it in more detail: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/how-we-get-fat.html/
And then there's the fact that regardless of macronutrient intake, there is no net storage of fat while in a caloric deficit, so in that situation the entire point is moot.
If you enjoy eating HFLC and it works for you, awesome. Congratulations on finding a diet composition that makes adherence easy for you. But there's no magic to it, any more than any other macro split.11 -
OMG just let me eat in a calorie deficit to lose weight! All this majoring in the minors is seriously making my head hurt :noway:7
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Christine_72 wrote: »OMG just let me eat in a calorie deficit to lose weight! All this majoring in the minors is seriously making my head hurt :noway:
Yup, so much this. It's interesting, but really, a calorie deficit is what matters. A particular macro breakdown is not going to allow you to cheat your body somehow and magically eat unlimited amounts and not gain (whether it's the claim that you can't put on weight eating fat (church of LCHF) or that you can't put on weight eating carbs (church of HCLF, see, e.g., McDougall)). It may make it easier for YOU specifically to stick to a calorie deficit, so all should experiment to see how they enjoy eating and what makes it easier for them.1 -
Well.... perhaps I am wrong... but I don't think so.
Dietary fat CANNOT and DOES NOT get stored as fat in the body.
It takes a ton of energy for your body to convert protein into fat that can be stored. In fact, only about 333 calories from each 1000 calorie portion will be stored. The other 667 calories will be burned in the transition.
However, fat contains a LOT of calories. If you consume fat, and you have a surplus of calories, your body will work very hard to store all those carbs and proteins.
Go ahead and google... "Why Fat does not make you fat" or "Can fat make you fat", or "Does dietary fat make you fat" etc.
Go for it. It was an eye opener for me. Changed the way I look at food.
If you like it what I said... just ignore.
But the idea that dietary fat turns into body fat quickly and easily is just wrong.
I don't say this with any disrespect intended but you are incorrect.
Please read the reply by @AnvilHead
Additionally regarding dietary carbohydrate getting stored directly as fat (and why this seldom happens to any meaningful extent) please see here:
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/74/6/707.full
and regarding a quick comparison between dietary fat and dietary carbohydrate overfeeding see here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7598063
Please note: This is not me suggesting that any certain diet will be better than another. If low carb works for you, great! It's just not working the way you think it's working.7 -
I'm not sure what that is, let me go ahead and look that up on google....hmmm...oh...oh God...why is this even a thing?
Adding a bunch of fat to coffee? What? I mean when is the last time you had a cup of coffee and thought to yourself, you know what this really needs....some butter, or maybe a few tablespoons of olive oil. A little bit of cream I get....but butter?!?
How about instead you just have some sausage and eggs with yoru coffee. People are weird.7 -
Aaron_K123 wrote: »I'm not sure what that is, let me go ahead and look that up on google....hmmm...oh...oh God...why is this even a thing?
Adding a bunch of fat to coffee? What? I mean when is the last time you had a cup of coffee and thought to yourself, you know what this really needs....some butter, or maybe a few tablespoons of olive oil. A little bit of cream I get....but butter?!?
How about instead you just have some sausage and eggs with yoru coffee. People are weird.
Do you own a vitamix? You maybe onto something!! It's fast and easy
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I drink it most days. It fits my macros. I eat LCHF and tend to skip a breakfast do drinking coffee with a teaspoon of coconut oil (lots of MCTs - great for brain health) and some cream fills me up. Plus I love sipping coffee and like the taste.
I've always liked drinking my calories too. I like smoothies, coffee with cream, teas, and I used to like alcoholic drinks. Those who don't drink their calories might not enjoy it.
I am sure it isn't bad for you. My BPC probably has about the same calories as someone else's creamer and sugar. I just don't have the carbs in mine.
About the only time BPC might be a bad idea is if you are adding it onto an already full breakfast. Depending on how you make it, it could be a few hundred extra calories per day.
IIRC one of Asprey's recommendations clocks in around 600cals? At SOME point I'd have to think that might matter in some individuals even under a condition where someone isn't gaining bodyweight.
You could be right. I have no idea - I've never followed Asprey. I was putting coconut oil in my coffee long before I'd ever heard of him or BPC. It started with coconut cream from a can because I had some dairy issues and liked cream in my coffee, and many of the substitute milks had cross contamination issues that could have been a problem for my family. I switched to coconut oil because it was cheaper than coconut milk.
600kcal of coconut oil is a lot. Theraputic levels are often that high but I doubt the average Joe needs, or wants that much. I'd be in the bathroom all day if I didn't build up to that much.
Lets drink 1000kcal BP coffees and then go on my new program, Sharting Strength14 -
I prefer coffee and raw coconut oil, and I find the energy boost from the MTC/Coffee combo to be wonderful. It helps with intermittent fasting...curbs the hunger until later in the day. I skip out on the butter, because it is just too rich for me. These days, I can't drink coffee without the fat. It just doesn't have the same clean jitter-free and crash-free energy boost without it.0
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What the heck is "therapeutic" about MCT? Serious question.0
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VintageFeline wrote: »What the heck is "therapeutic" about MCT? Serious question.
Dr Oz endorses it so...4 -
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VintageFeline wrote: »What the heck is "therapeutic" about MCT? Serious question.
It's supposed to distract you from the saturated fat. Don't look!2 -
dovetheraven wrote: »I prefer coffee and raw coconut oil, and I find the energy boost from the MTC/Coffee combo to be wonderful. It helps with intermittent fasting...curbs the hunger until later in the day.
How does a coffee with a coconut oil (about 120 calories for every tablespoon) not break your fast, though? Are these calories somehow different from those you'd get having breakfast instead? <confused>5 -
You've got to be joking, right?Well.... perhaps I am wrong... but I don't think so.
Dietary fat CANNOT and DOES NOT get stored as fat in the body.
Overeating fat (over my TDEE of course) is what got me obese in the first place. Croatian food can be VERY high in fat.
Of course, if you eat a high percentage of fat, protein or carbs below or at your TDEE, you won't gain. This much is true.
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Now I really want to start a new thread.
Hi everyone, I'm just starting my new diet and am on my way to being healthy and fit! I was just wondering, how much butter should I be putting in my coffee....like is a quarter stick enough or should I use half a stick. Thanks!
Look. Weight loss is about calories. Being able to enjoy yourself while losing weight is about what you choose to spend those calories on. So question. Would you rather have an omlete and a donut with your coffee getting the additional nutritional benefits or would you rather just melt some butter into your coffee. If you'd honestly rather have butter-coffee then I guess go for it.6 -
BPC helps me with satiety when IF 16/8 and has no negative impact on rising blood sugar levels. Jason Fung explains this in detail in his you tube videos.1
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elisa123gal wrote: »The logic to me.. is to keep yourself in a fat burning state after fasting during sleep. If you eat any carb your body comes out of the fat burning fasting state. So, in theory. you drink coffee with butter, or coconut oil it keeps your body during fat until you eat at lunch. I learned this from my intermittent fasting group.. where some do this in the mornings.
That's all I can dish on the subject.. Iv'e never done it.
Yes, but the fat you're burning is the fat you consumed in the coffee, not stored body fat.8 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »I don't see why it would be unhealthy, but it is the most bizarre concept I've ever heard of. It totally beats out drinking kale on the weird food idea scale.
It really isn't any odder than putting cow breast milk and evaporated beet juice in your coffee. It's more a matter of what you are used to.
Things become more bizarre the less familiar they are?!? You're kidding!
I don't think there is such a thing as cow breast milk since cows don't have breasts.
True. Udder milk?1 -
I drink it most days. It fits my macros. I eat LCHF and tend to skip a breakfast do drinking coffee with a teaspoon of coconut oil (lots of MCTs - great for brain health) and some cream fills me up. Plus I love sipping coffee and like the taste.
I've always liked drinking my calories too. I like smoothies, coffee with cream, teas, and I used to like alcoholic drinks. Those who don't drink their calories might not enjoy it.
I am sure it isn't bad for you. My BPC probably has about the same calories as someone else's creamer and sugar. I just don't have the carbs in mine.
About the only time BPC might be a bad idea is if you are adding it onto an already full breakfast. Depending on how you make it, it could be a few hundred extra calories per day.
IIRC one of Asprey's recommendations clocks in around 600cals? At SOME point I'd have to think that might matter in some individuals even under a condition where someone isn't gaining bodyweight.
You could be right. I have no idea - I've never followed Asprey. I was putting coconut oil in my coffee long before I'd ever heard of him or BPC. It started with coconut cream from a can because I had some dairy issues and liked cream in my coffee, and many of the substitute milks had cross contamination issues that could have been a problem for my family. I switched to coconut oil because it was cheaper than coconut milk.
600kcal of coconut oil is a lot. Theraputic levels are often that high but I doubt the average Joe needs, or wants that much. I'd be in the bathroom all day if I didn't build up to that much.
Lets drink 1000kcal BP coffees and then go on my new program, Sharting Strength
Ouch... LOL1 -
My husband lost 20 pounds with ease by drinking the Bulletproof Coffee in the morning instead of eating breakfast. He eats moderate amount of carbs. His health improved dramatically, so did his energy level. I have been drinking it too, which really helped me to quit Starbucks! The last several weeks I've been following the cyclical ketogenic diet (Bulletproof diet more or less - this just means you try to select food which causes least inflammation to your body) with a carb re-feed day every three days, and I feel amazing. Never feel tired at all. I sleep so much better. Basically you are on an intermittent fast every day but rather than getting starved, the Bulletproof coffee makes you full the whole morning without breaking the ketosis, i.e. the body continues to burn fat as a source of energy. It is very hard to believe but I did read lots of books and articles on this topic, I am pretty convinced that it is a good concept AND I am happy that my health improved 0
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the_new_mark_2016 wrote: »BPC helps me with satiety when IF 16/8 and has no negative impact on rising blood sugar levels. Jason Fung explains this in detail in his you tube videos.
Again, if you consume calories, you're not fasting anymore. Fung is a quack.6 -
This is a really interesting thread, I am glad I found it. I did BPC a while ago, I used a generic MCT oil mainly because Aprey's products are wildly overpriced. I'm sure there is something in the science of consuming a rich keto breakfast. I currently follow keto - but eat eggs in the morning, and typical meat based salads at night. One thing I am suffering with currently is evening hunger pangs.
Drinking BPC twice a day DEFINITELY kills hunger off, and I'm sure if I did it right, logging my calories on here, I could keep my daily targets as they are and still keep exercising and nail the rest of my targets.0 -
This is a really interesting thread, I am glad I found it. I did BPC a while ago, I used a generic MCT oil mainly because Aprey's products are wildly overpriced. I'm sure there is something in the science of consuming a rich keto breakfast. I currently follow keto - but eat eggs in the morning, and typical meat based salads at night. One thing I am suffering with currently is evening hunger pangs.
Drinking BPC twice a day DEFINITELY kills hunger off, and I'm sure if I did it right, logging my calories on here, I could keep my daily targets as they are and still keep exercising and nail the rest of my targets.
As long as MCT oil contains lots of C8 and C10, it is great. a guy in a FB group posted a link - https://www.amazon.com/Viva-Labs-Non-GMO-Gluten-Coconut/dp/B00MGW5UVY/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1477751168&sr=8-1&keywords=Viva+labs+MCT very good price indeed! As long as your body is in ketosis, you should be able to eat until you feel full. and if you eat your complex carb at night only (up to your limit), it should help with your hunger, too. May be you can eat more solid veggies like broccoli and cauliflowers instead of salad?0 -
Yoyo_Fitness wrote: »My husband lost 20 pounds with ease by drinking the Bulletproof Coffee in the morning instead of eating breakfast. He eats moderate amount of carbs. His health improved dramatically, so did his energy level. I have been drinking it too, which really helped me to quit Starbucks! The last several weeks I've been following the cyclical ketogenic diet (Bulletproof diet more or less - this just means you try to select food which causes least inflammation to your body) with a carb re-feed day every three days, and I feel amazing. Never feel tired at all. I sleep so much better. Basically you are on an intermittent fast every day but rather than getting starved, the Bulletproof coffee makes you full the whole morning without breaking the ketosis, i.e. the body continues to burn fat as a source of energy. It is very hard to believe but I did read lots of books and articles on this topic, I am pretty convinced that it is a good concept AND I am happy that my health improved
What's wrong with Starbucks (other than mediocre coffee) that makes some other coffee with butter and coconut oil in it preferable? If I go to Starbucks (I normally make my own coffee or go to Intelligentsia or Peets), my black coffee or Americano has very few calories. It isn't otherwise worse for me (or more addictive) than any other coffee, Odd. If you mean you weaned off coffee with a bunch of caloric stuff in it by putting other stuff in it, that's fine, but nothing inherent in Starbucks coffee that means you have to put a bunch of stuff in it (IMO, coffee is much better black).
I also don't get this idea of "fasting" where someone is skipping breakfast but consuming as many calories as otherwise. I mean, whatever floats your boat, but there's no magic to finding it not hard to consume only 300 calories in the morning. That's having breakfast. Not a breakfast that would satisfy me, but again whatever.3 -
I'm still waiting to find out what's therapeutic about MCT at a certain level..........0
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