It Works, Shakeology, WW Or...???
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TanyaHooton wrote: »Someone I used to know now sells ItWorks via her Facebook friends and feed. It was mega-annoying at first; now I find the before & after photos and her proclamations of making a lot of money just kinda mildly curious. I have not tried it, and I will not. I have much better ways to spend my money, like buying nice food at the store and preparing it at home.
The fake before and after's are how they reel you in. Many of those are stolen from other people (I've seen it on here and FB) who don't watermark their photos. Yeah the money is good because its a MLM and when you have others selling under you the checks roll in. I doubt they are making the kind of money they are portraying. Most that I have seen are still living check to check and driving the same cars they had 10 years ago. If it seems too good to be true - it is.
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I have tried many things in my fitness journey including weight watchers, slim fast, Isagenix and shakeology. I eventually lost my weight through weight training and eating clean - no shakes or point system. I am always looking to try new things and honestly I love the beachbody programs and products. They are pricey, but you get way more out of shakeology than just a meal replacement. I feel better on shakeology overall (and I have IBS that is way more under control now with Shakeology). I have more energy, less cravings, and they taste amazing. I know how to eat properly without shakes, but I choose to drink them because of what I get from them and how easy and great tasting they are. As for the programs. I never use to like home workouts. I was all about the gym 100%. Recently though my schedule doesn't allow for gym times when I want them so I tried the at home programs and love them. I completed 21 Day Fix Extreme and have started Core De Force and often mix in Country Heat or T25. Again, these aren't for everyone and of course you need to know how to eat to lose, but in my experience I recommend Beachbody. Just my 2 cents!2
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FitInMyHead wrote: »that is how I feel..I was just wondering. Sometimes the mind can play games and ifyou BELEIVE something works, then it does....(like a placebo effect, you know?)
I got that's the case, I believe my ford focus will be a 67 vette when u walk to the parking lot this afternoon.
You may "tbink" you lost weight with these bull products, but unless you follow CICO, you won't!0 -
A pharmacist's view on Snakeoilogy: http://pharmadaddy.blogspot.ca/2013/07/shakeology-shaking-up-its-foundations.html?m=1
It's an overpriced scam with a "proprietary blend" of "superfoods" (which, incidentally, don't exist - it's purely a marketing/advertising term). "Proprietary blend" means they don't have to disclose how much of any ingredient is in the blend, so you don't even know if there's enough of anything in the ingredients to have any of the touted beneficial effects. The only people who benefit from Snakeoilogy are the people peddling it to their families and friends, pestering and annoying everybody around them in the process. Beachbody workouts are generally considered to be decent (albeit expensive), but their MLM shakes/products are pure woo.
ItWorks is an even bigger scam. Any results from their scammy wraps are temporary (as in "hours") and the only place you'll permanently lose anything is from your wallet.6 -
I did Weight Watchers in the past, but decided that I didn't need to pay for it when I can do the same thing here for free.
I enjoy the BeachBody workouts, but someone gave me the dvds. I wouldn't pay what they charge for them, but if you can get them at a discount, why not.
The others are expensive woo. All they will do is empty your pockets of cash. Protein shakes can be helpful if you struggle to hit your protein goals, but there are less expensive and just as tasty options out there over Shakeology.0 -
WW is really just another form of calorie counting in a way so that works for some to keep their meals in check. I didn't care for figuring out how many points were in all foods, counting calories or just doing my best to watch portions works better for me. Shakeology is expensive but I think would be good for people who have busy lives and have a hard time putting meals together to ensure they were getting in some kind of nutrition and calories. I have tried many BeachBody workouts. Some I love, some just ok, but that just depends on an individuals preference of exercise. Any workout program will give you results if you just stick to it and eat well.1
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I wrote a whole post about this on my website titled "Weight Loss Scams and Hot to Spot Them" if that tells you exactly how i feel about those products.0
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I have lost 8 lbs in 6 weeks doing the 21 Day Fix (Beachbody program). I like it better than counting calories b/c it takes a different approach. It breaks down how many servings of each type of food to eat, how much a serving is, and what fits under which category. Like, yes, sweet potatoes are a veggie but really they act more like a carb/startch so they go under that category rather than veggies. I don't have to count any calories. I only used the containers to measure my food for the first 3 weeks, now I can eyeball it and only rarely measure. If I measure, it is usually protein or nuts. I have a harder time eyeballing those right now. I do drink Shakeology but not everyday. It isn't magic. It isn't going to MAKE you lose weight. It is a low calorie snack or, if you add some other foods to it, meal replacement to help you stay under your calorie goal for the day. So, for example, on MFP, I'm in the 1200 cal range (only 20 lbs to lose) and I'm in the lowest bracket on 21 Day Fix, so Shakeology helps me get through the day staying within my goals. When I go to maintenance, I can forsee myself not drinking Shakeology as much b/c I'll have more calories to work with in a day. (Or containers if you are thinking strictly in terms of 21DF). I don't think in terms of calories OR containers. I think "I get 4 servings of protein a day, 2 servings of starch/grains, 2 servings of fruits, etc." THAT is what the 21 DF has done for me that I was struggling to wrap my brain around...how many servings of each type of food I need a day and how big is a serving...for weight loss and for maintenance.
The It Works Wraps are Saran Wrap. They're stupid. I've never seen something more hokey in my entire life.3 -
I drink Shakeology and do a lot of the videos. I do think out of a lot of the proteins shakes out there it is better quality, but the price reflects that. It's helped me overcome all the Halloween junk/candy I still have in my house and keeps me fuller. Love the workouts as I can do them in my home at my own convenience.2
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I happen to like *some* of the Beachbody workouts. Shaun T happens to be a good personality fit for me, and I've kept Insanity Max 30 on regular rotation. But yes, all the ads for Shakeology and their other supplements get old.0
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ALL programs work IF there's a calorie deficit involved. I personally don't think that people need to overpay to do it.
The key here is can one SUSTAIN this type of dieting for life? Cause if not, it's a short lived deal.
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In the past I have tried Plexus and Weight Watchers. Neither of the two worked for me because I wasn't serious about my weight loss back then. Good 'ole MFP and simple calorie counting is what finally worked. Not because it's magic, but because I put in the hard work and dedication. 100 pounds down! I'm a firm believer that you don't need to spend any money on a gym membership or nutrition plans to lose weight.3
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It Works -- TOTAL JOKE. Weight Watchers is a great plan if you would prefer to count points vs calories -- I did the program at one time and found that the points I were allowed came to a similar calorie count as MFP, so stopped using it.0
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ccjlgrider wrote: »I have lost 8 lbs in 6 weeks doing the 21 Day Fix (Beachbody program). I like it better than counting calories b/c it takes a different approach. It breaks down how many servings of each type of food to eat, how much a serving is, and what fits under which category. Like, yes, sweet potatoes are a veggie but really they act more like a carb/startch so they go under that category rather than veggies. I don't have to count any calories. I only used the containers to measure my food for the first 3 weeks, now I can eyeball it and only rarely measure. If I measure, it is usually protein or nuts. I have a harder time eyeballing those right now. I do drink Shakeology but not everyday. It isn't magic. It isn't going to MAKE you lose weight. It is a low calorie snack or, if you add some other foods to it, meal replacement to help you stay under your calorie goal for the day. So, for example, on MFP, I'm in the 1200 cal range (only 20 lbs to lose) and I'm in the lowest bracket on 21 Day Fix, so Shakeology helps me get through the day staying within my goals. When I go to maintenance, I can forsee myself not drinking Shakeology as much b/c I'll have more calories to work with in a day. (Or containers if you are thinking strictly in terms of 21DF). I don't think in terms of calories OR containers. I think "I get 4 servings of protein a day, 2 servings of starch/grains, 2 servings of fruits, etc." THAT is what the 21 DF has done for me that I was struggling to wrap my brain around...how many servings of each type of food I need a day and how big is a serving...for weight loss and for maintenance.
The It Works Wraps are Saran Wrap. They're stupid. I've never seen something more hokey in my entire life.
The "different approach" as you put it is a rip-off the old school Weight Watchers Exchanges program. Richard Simmons Deal a Meal was the first rip-off of WW Exchanges.....now we have 21 DF. Nothing new here, it's still calorie restriction by measuring portions. You use expensive tupperware instead of measuring cups.4 -
I had a professor once who called it "sh*tology" just stick to deficit and work outs2
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I tried Shakeology when I first started doing beach body work outs. It tastes good but is super expensive compared to other shake options out there. My boyfriends sister is a dietician and she helped me find a different shake that meets my needs better (lower cal, lower sugar, good vitamin/macro breakdown) and it costs me only $15 a month through Amazon.
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SCoil123: Hello, my name is Kathy and I appreciate your post. Can you please tell me what was recommended to you that you bought on Amazon? I am willing to do the Beach Body exercises however I am leary about the Shakeology. Thank you.
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ccjlgrider: Thank you for your post. This has helped me greatly! I am currently counting calories and going to a weight management doctor. I have seen and bought the knock off containers at CVS like Beach Body uses. I don't use them however based on your post, I liked how you said about not focusing on the amount of containers but number of servings.
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SCoil123: Hello, my name is Kathy and I appreciate your post. Can you please tell me what was recommended to you that you bought on Amazon? I am willing to do the Beach Body exercises however I am leary about the Shakeology. Thank you.
My pleasure. It's Nature's Bounty Complete Protein and Vitamin. The chocolate is my favorite.0 -
Neither.
Use MFP. You're hear anyway, right? It is free, while those other programs are not. When I was on WW, they gave me the equivalent of 1300 calories when I was 270lbs. Nope nope nope.0 -
It really is a case of calories in vs. calories out. If shakes, wraps or other things help you along the way, then so be it. My husband had protein shakes when he did P90X and Insanity, but not the Shakology ones promoted on the Beachbody website - he ended up getting protein shake powder from GNC. The purpose of it was to help repair muscles from the intense workouts.
I've done WW and I plan on starting to go back to the meetings - mostly for the accountability with the weigh-in's and the support from the meetings, but they've changed the way the count their points to only include calories, saturated fat, protein and carbs. It's really made the calculations weird. I'll be totally in line with MFP, but will have used the extra points in WW within 2 days. It used to be that when I was "in line" with MFP, that it wasn't far off with the points being in line. The points gave me a little more food, so that was my range. Not anymore.
You can make anything work you want to work if you're determined enough to follow through with it.0 -
I never used them, I used techniques that martial artists did like Bruce Lee, or shaolin monks vegan- diets the way they ate meals , you can get a general idea by going to youtube.com and search: shaolin monks diets0
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I lost weight on WW twice, and maintained for at least two years each time. I only gained the weight back when I got pregnant and I was told I couldn't stay on the program. I think I would have kept it off if I didn't have that going on. The money and the meetings helped me feel accountable. I've had a much better record with WW than MyFitnessPal. But that's not a terribly fair comparison to make when it takes so much more commitment to join WW than a free website. I did learn many skills from WW that I still use now.
That said, WW teaches healthy eating, but there is a strong countercurrent of low-Point junk food sales. And it was sad hearing people struggling because they didn't understand that they're using their scale wrong (they were putting on as much food as they could before the points went up, which meant they were always rounding down). I also need more help with my carb control and protein encouragement than I think WW could give me.0 -
I agree that WW is a valid method and I can see that the social and accountability aspect of meetings appeals to some people -and therefore they are successful with it.
They do have plans for maitenance as well and they are flexible and do not require you to purchase separate food like Jenny Craig etc do.
Wraps are just nonsense.
MLM shake schemes might work if you really really like shakes and you have money to burn - but I doubt anyone has long term success with them.
I could be wrong.0
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